posted June 17, 2020 12:12 AM            

I have my progressed sun changing signs in both my progression chart and how it is transiting my natal--into Capricorn.

However, the progressed sun is also "transiting" my 5th House, but stays in House 3 in the progression chart. So confused! Do I read that my progressed sun IS changing houses since it's transiting 5th House now on my Natal?

Also does this mean I take on a Capricorn lens--while being more creative and fun? I feel this is any oxymoron.

Additionally, I see progressed Pluto, NN and ASC are all 3 moving closer together on the progression chart--how do I interpret this? When I research it, I see more about transiting Pluto on ASC. Should I read those articles to get a sense of what this means for me?

posted June 17, 2020 01:30 AM            

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I am rather confused as to how progressions work and how best to research it.

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What differs is that transits tend to bring a concrete event, whilst progressions bring a change of focus.

For example ... a progression of Mercury to natal Uranus might result in a new interest in astrology, whilst a transit of Mercury to natal Uranus might cause you to notice/purchase a book on astrology. ... And, if the transit comes whilst the progression is active, that book might have been sitting on the bookshelf throughout weeks of your regular visits to the bookshop - but went unnoticed by you, because your focus was not then on learning about astrology.

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I have my progressed sun changing signs in both my progression chart and now it is transiting my natal--into Capricorn.

However, the progressed sun is also "transiting" my 5th House, but stays in House 3 in the progression chart.

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So confused! Do I read that my progressed sun IS changing houses since it's transiting 5th House now on my Natal?

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Also does this mean I take on a Capricorn lens--while being more creative and fun? I feel this is any oxymoron.

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Your outgoing Sagittarius natal Sun continues to focus on 3rd house communications ... but Capricorn may now use communications to achieve a specific 5th house purpose - such as acquiring a romantic partner; mentoring a child or/and just "having fun".

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Additionally, I see progressed Pluto, NN and ASC are all 3 moving closer together on the progression chart--how do I interpret this? When I research it, I see more about transiting Pluto on ASC. Should I read those articles to get a sense of what this means for me?

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posted June 17, 2020 10:07 AM            

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Originally posted by ScorpieScorp:
Any thoughts would be appreciated!

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Hello ScorpieScorp

What level of your soli-lunar progress cycle are you in? And find out when the new moon started progressing and when in your progressed cycle ends. Precisely our reaction to a reflection, will not be the same at all ...

posted June 17, 2020 10:15 AM            

Lunesoleil2020, I'm not sure how to find my soli-lunar cycle chart. LMK how to do that on Astro and I can let you know.

posted June 17, 2020 12:31 PM            

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I would post up my chart, but don't know how to do that now that TinyURL doesn't work. If anyone knows, lmk.

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posted June 17, 2020 12:38 PM            

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Originally posted by ScorpieScorp:
Graham, thank you for breaking it down! I'll have to research what Pluto transits to natal ASC are like to get a sense of what will happen when progressed Pluto conjuncts progressed ASC. One note, my natal sun is in Scorpio. Speaking of progressed Mercury, I just noticed it's at 0 degrees Capricorn and conjunct my progressed Sun. It is retrograde and will be in Sagittarius into my House 3. What are your thoughts on that?

Lunesoleil2020, I'm not sure how to find my soli-lunar cycle chart. LMK how to do that on Astro and I can let you know.

One other thing, I would post up my chart, but don't know how to do that now that TinyURL doesn't work. If anyone knows, lmk.

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Your probing Scorpio natal Sun is now more relaxed/less intense (after progressing through Sagittarius) and continues to focus on 3rd house communications ... but Capricorn may now use communications to achieve a specific 5th house purpose - such as acquiring a romantic partner; mentoring a child or/and just "having fun".

posted June 17, 2020 01:04 PM            

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Originally posted by Graham:

How long has progressed mercury been retrograde? And how long before it turns direct?

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Hi, my Progressed Mercury went retrograde 8/9/11 and will go forward June 2031. Why do you ask?

Thanks for sharing the photo sharing link!

Here are my charts:

Natal w/ Progressed:[img]https://i.ibb.co/GH5G7Dm/Screen-Shot-2020-06-17-at-1-10-44-PM.png[/img]

Progressed Chart:
[img]https://i.ibb.co/F4xX6gW/Screen-Shot-2020-06-17-at-1-10-11-PM.png[/img]

(Don't know still how to make them automatically appear on this post without clicking on a link, lmk if there's a way).

posted June 17, 2020 01:20 PM            

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Originally posted by ScorpieScorp:
Lunesoleil2020, I'm not sure how to find my soli-lunar cycle chart. LMK how to do that on Astro and I can let you know.

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Astrotheme map progressed

It is a tool in French, do you have an account on astrodienst?, Because you will have the tools in English in various maps

posted June 17, 2020 01:26 PM            

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Originally posted by Lunesoleil2020:
Astrotheme map progressed

It is a tool in French, do you have an account on astrodienst?, Because you will have the tools in English in various maps

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posted June 17, 2020 03:02 PM            

Progressions are very subtle. They are the phantoms of past transits projected into the future through an Earth-based metaphor of a day for a year (one turn of the globe equated to one revolution around the Sun).

If you are a novice -- stick with transits.

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posted June 17, 2020 04:32 PM            

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Originally posted by ScorpieScorp:
Hi, my Progressed Mercury went retrograde 8/9/11 and will go forward June 2031. Why do you ask?

Thanks for sharing the photo sharing link!

Here are my charts:

Natal w/ Progressed:[img]https://i.ibb.co/GH5G7Dm/Screen-Shot-2020-06-17-at-1-10-44-PM.png[/img]

Progressed Chart:
[img]https://i.ibb.co/F4xX6gW/Screen-Shot-2020-06-17-at-1-10-11-PM.png[/img]

(Don't know still how to make them automatically appear on this post without clicking on a link, lmk if there's a way).

As you can see, my Sun is at 29 degrees this year, and will go to 0 next year.

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The charts will appear here if (in the link) you remove the s from https

Also ... Best to write the month in letters when giving dates ... In Europe 8/9/11 = 8th September 2011 - but in USA it is 9th August 2011 (I think).

posted June 17, 2020 08:25 PM            

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Originally posted by ScorpieScorp:
I am rather confused as to how progressions work and how best to research it.

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By first learning transits against the backdrop of your natal chart. Becoming fluent in that can take years.

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I have my progressed sun changing signs in both my progression chart and how it is transiting my natal--into Capricorn.

However, the progressed sun is also "transiting" my 5th House, but stays in House 3 in the progression chart. So confused! Do I read that my progressed sun IS changing houses since it's transiting 5th House now on my Natal?

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This is a mish-mash of conflated terms. Yes, progressed Sun is moving into Capricorn in a year or so. Keep the terms 'progressed' and 'transit' separate so there is no confusion.

And yes, the progressed Sun progresses through your natal houses. Forget the stand-alone progressed chart. It has no context. Always view progressed planets against the backdrop of your natal chart and natal houses.

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Also does this mean I take on a Capricorn lens--while being more creative and fun? I feel this is any oxymoron.

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Creativity can be constructive and purposeful, not just childlike and spontaneous.

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Additionally, I see progressed Pluto, NN and ASC are all 3 moving closer together on the progression chart--how do I interpret this? When I research it, I see more about transiting Pluto on ASC. Should I read those articles to get a sense of what this means for me?

Any thoughts would be appreciated!

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Forget that progressed Asc and draw up your progressions as 'quotidian' or true progressions as given in the Astrodienst option for 361°/prog year. Otherwise, what you've got here is a falsely directed Asc that is meaningless.

If your Asc and house cusps are basically accurate, then N.node and Pluto are not going very far, since they progress slowly. However, there is no way to answer your question directly since you've cut off the planet positions and aspectarian from the chart image. The exact planet position of progressed planets must be considered to know if they are engaging in any aspects, etc.

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Expert birth chart rectification

posted June 18, 2020 08:57 AM            

I'd say I'm a novice at transits. I'm not able to do predictive work, but I can get a sense of the bigger picture (transits through houses, Saturn's role, etc). Also, I see that progressed Pluto does not get close to the Progressed ASC till 2030s...but I'm still curious as it seems signifiant with the Progressed NN there too.

I'm posting the part I cut off for you, and added the other tables as well just in case.

Graham, you mentioned this Sun change could mean I start to "build" my romantic life. And yes, I'm definitely ready for that now.

Progression charts:

posted June 18, 2020 10:26 AM            

As I said, forget that mark 'AC' for the progressed Asc. It is a false direction of it. Instead choose the 361°/prog.day:

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Expert birth chart rectification

posted June 18, 2020 10:37 AM            

See below for the Natal w/ Progressed, at 15 orb.

Progressions:

posted June 18, 2020 10:41 AM            

Here's the 361°/prog.day:

Progressed 361:

Natal 361:

posted June 18, 2020 02:18 PM            

- Prog Sun biquintile natal Mars, orb=0°06' separating; will still be active generally for about 3 more months, but it has mostly peaked. This aspect signifies a moment of opportunity for change of patterns of action by crucial decisions or intention.

- Prog Saturn trine prog Mercury, orb=02' separating: this aspect frames a very brief window of opportunity which you will have for maybe a week or two longer for serious thought and study.

* Prog Venus 23S00 contra-parallel natal Jupiter 22N58', orb= 02' separating. This one does offer up opportunity to make more friends and social contacts, and because prog Venus is down low in your chart, it facilitates close connections.

- Prog Uranus semi-sextile natal Neptune, orb=02' applying: this is the one most active right now and relates to confusion. Not the best time for delving into the subtleties of astrology. This aspect is a prolonged window of opportunity for adjusting your life perspective by questioning assumptions and reframing your ideals. The trick is avoiding idealism.

I can see that one of your major windows of opportunity for initiating a significant relationship already passed several years ago with the progression of N.Node out of 15-degree aspect in longitude with natal Venus.

But the progression of Venus contra-parallel natal Jupiter that you've got now is a pretty significant opportunity. It will also last a while, maybe even a couple months longer or more. So make good use of it. Think positively and in terms of friendship first. Jupiter is up there in your 11th house area, which is about group and loose friendship connections or connection through friend-of-a-friend kind of situations.

Always use 361°/prog. day -- they are the true (quotidian) progressions of the Asc and house cusps according to how the Earth actually rotates, which is what determines progressions, not the arbitrary direction of the Asc by astrologers as is the common method.

361°/prog. day does not apply to the natal, only progressions.

If you want to frame your windows of opportunity for relationships, then focus on your transits. They are plenty for a novice or intermediate student to digest and benefit from.

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Expert birth chart rectification

posted June 19, 2020 07:11 AM            

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Originally posted by Graham:
What date are you progressing to? ... 2019 birthday? ... 2020 birthday? ... current day in 2020?

And are you using a current location that is not your place of birth? ... Or your place of birth?

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I'm progressing to July 1, 2020 since that's the date my Progressed Sun goes to 29 degrees.

posted June 19, 2020 07:30 AM            

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Originally posted by Kannon McAfee:
The most relevant aspects recently and still active are:

- Prog Sun biquintile natal Mars, orb=0°06' separating; will still be active generally for about 3 more months, but it has mostly peaked. This aspect signifies a moment of opportunity for change of patterns of action by crucial decisions or intention.

- Prog Saturn trine prog Mercury, orb=02' separating: this aspect frames a very brief window of opportunity which you will have for maybe a week or two longer for serious thought and study.

* Prog Venus 23S00 contra-parallel natal Jupiter 22N58', orb= 02' separating. This one does offer up opportunity to make more friends and social contacts, and because prog Venus is down low in your chart, it facilitates close connections.

- Prog Uranus semi-sextile natal Neptune, orb=02' applying: this is the one most active right now and relates to confusion. Not the best time for delving into the subtleties of astrology. This aspect is a prolonged window of opportunity for adjusting your life perspective by questioning assumptions and reframing your ideals. The trick is avoiding idealism.

I can see that one of your major windows of opportunity for initiating a significant relationship already passed several years ago with the progression of N.Node out of 15-degree aspect in longitude with natal Venus.

But the progression of Venus contra-parallel natal Jupiter that you've got now is a pretty significant opportunity. It will also last a while, maybe even a couple months longer or more. So make good use of it. Think positively and in terms of friendship first. Jupiter is up there in your 11th house area, which is about group and loose friendship connections or connection through friend-of-a-friend kind of situations.

Always use 361°/prog. day -- they are the true (quotidian) progressions of the Asc and house cusps according to how the Earth actually rotates, which is what determines progressions, not the arbitrary direction of the Asc by astrologers as is the common method.

361°/prog. day does not apply to the natal, only progressions.

If you want to frame your windows of opportunity for relationships, then focus on your transits. They are plenty for a novice or intermediate student to digest and benefit from.

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Wow, thanks Kannon! Glad to hear I still have Love Potential (but with Covid lockdown, do I? LOL)...I was watching all of my House 5 transits on my Natal this past year, but nothing happened. Then I saw my pSun change to House 5, I got excited at the potential I could meet the one.

I am going through a transformation right now, reevaluating what I want and don't, so it's interesting you mentioned that. I want to move away from corporate life to starting my own business, and focus more on doing what makes me happy.

posted June 19, 2020 11:49 AM            

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Originally posted by ScorpieScorp:
I'm progressing to July 1, 2020 since that's the date my Progressed Sun goes to 29 degrees.

My data has my birthplace, but on Astro.com the reference place is the city I live in now. LMK if that needs to change to be more accurate.

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I asked because I could not recreate your tables using your birthplace and a date that co-incided with your birthday or the current date. ... But, I can do that now that I know you have relocated and progressed to 1st July 2020.

posted June 20, 2020 08:30 AM            

I was reading this thread and your answer to ScorpieScorp telling him to reduce the orbs. I have read this in other threads too that we should keep the orbs tight. I did it with my natal chart and suddenly there are not so many aspects as before.

My Uranus and my Venus make no aspects at all. Do you have any experience with that?

Upon asking myself, the answer that I got is that there are no clues here, I have to carve those paths on my own.

posted June 20, 2020 09:59 AM            

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Originally posted by Graham:
[QUOTE]Originally posted by ScorpieScorp:
[b] I'm progressing to July 1, 2020 since that's the date my Progressed Sun goes to 29 degrees.

My data has my birthplace, but on Astro.com the reference place is the city I live in now. LMK if that needs to change to be more accurate.

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I asked because I could not recreate your tables using your birthplace and a date that co-incided with your birthday or the current date. ... But, I can do that now that I know you have relocated and progressed to 1st July 2020.

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