posted August 12, 2021 06:37 AM            

I dont want to jump to conclusions because lord knows I can do that way too often, because it's just a necklace, could it have been a coincidence? Does he not know the symbolism behind it? I want to give him the benefit of the doubt.

I dont know... is there anything in his chart that can indicate him into this type of occultism? Could it be the Scorpio placements or something else? I know some people have warned me about certain aspects in his chart, such as moon conjunct mars..but I always believed his Pisces stellium would override that.
He does have some belief in esoteric stuff though because he has gotten his fortune and tarot read to him a couple times.

I typically do not like Sag/Scorpio energy, but his Pisces energy definitely drew me in and helped me feel some type of kindred connection with him.

Ive never know Pisces to be into occultism like that, but I dont know if it's different with Pisces mooners. He has no 8th house. I didn't think the Scorpio in his chart would be that strong but maybe it is.

Anyways even besides the occultism stuff, what else can you guys tell me about his chart? I never bothered to ask anyone about it so Im interested in what others see. Thanks for any input (:

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Small **Disclaimer:
Now I hope I dont offend anyone, because I know we all have different beliefs. But Satanism and things of the like are not things I support. I know nowadays a lot of people are anti-christian, I think mostly because they dislike the hypocrite Christians, but contradictingly I believe in god. Ever since I was young Ive felt I had a relationship with Jesus, and I feel connected to him regardless of the many doubts and questions Ive had.
I know that it's a bit contradicting for me being someone into astrology that is considered "the occult" apparently ? I struggle with that, but honestly don't feel it clashes with my personal belief with god.
I just want to put this out there before I go further, because Ive known some people dont believe in this stuff or like there is somehow nothing wrong with Satanism but these are just my personal beliefs. Im not trying to push these on anyone! Just a small disclaimer (:
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posted August 12, 2021 09:41 AM            

With the combo of ruling Planet in Scorpio closely conjunct Scorp Pluto, and Sun conjunct Saturn (more closely) and Uranus in Sag, he could "potentially" be into some darker things, but not necessarily. Btw, most often highlighted Planetary energies are noticeably stronger than, and can overshadow Sign indications. This is one of the basic tenets of good astro analysis that more should know and understand, but many don't seem to.

Btw, will say that I know Yeshua pretty well. He's been a big part of my life in a non religious, non denominational way. Ime, he cares far less what a person specifically believes, but more how they treat, interact with, feel and think about others.

If people have more love in their hearts than not, for others and act that way, they could have some pretty whacky or off beliefs otherwise, and he doesn't care.

Believe it or not, but there are some pagans out there, who in their heart and essence, are more truly Christian than some who profess to be "Christian". Real/true Christianity is not about a set of dogmatic beliefs and self pronouncements, but about a way of life. It is ultimately, at its core, about living Universal Love--the highest, and hardest to live, teaching there is.

And, if ever in doubt, just ask Yeshua what he thinks/feels about something. He knows how to answer or not answer in the way that is most helpful for an individual's Soul growth. One of the things that guidance has shown/told me, is that Yeshua's Spirit (his original self), is the literal Co-Creator of this particular Universe and many of the Spirits in same.*

posted August 12, 2021 11:37 AM            

Personally I have not read the Bible, I just know of the stories and teachings of it from word of mouth by other Christians and more importantly what my mom has taught me.

My belief in what Jesus represents is probably a bit different from the traditional Christian. I grew up with my image of what god is based on what I was told, and that he is a compassionate and loving God. I do believe he cares more about peoples hearts more so, and that they strive to be good people.
Ultimately what I believe in my heart about God is what Ive believe up til now. My relationship with him revolved around believing in good and having faith. I dont know where Id be right now if it wasn't for him and having that faith. I honestly would have probably committed suicide by now, who knows.

That's why I personally believe God will forgive anyone who even if they followed another religion, as long as they strived to be good he will forgive them and love them.

However, Satanism is completely different story from other religions. And you cannot believe Jesus is the son of God if you worship or side with Satan. That's just not possible. People who worship Satan, know very well what he represents and that is being exactly anti-christ. So in those cases I do believe that there are evil intentions behind it and that is exactly the opposite of good intentions. You side with the dark side you are siding against light.

I don't particularly like how people are trying to normalize Satanism when what it represents is exactly to be against god.
Also the lack of morality. Morality and rules are in society for a good reason. Without it people would do whatever they want and that is not striving to be good.
There is room for morality and also compassion and forgiveness for those who seek it.

These are just my personal beliefs. I do know, like I mentioned in my disclaimer, that a lot of Christians dont even really follow God's teaching are inherently dont strive to be good. Those are the ones who are pushing people away from Christianity and those are the ones that are just as bad as ones who worship and follow satanism.

I know quite a bit of people on here dont like Christianity but if you are not against him and you do your best to be a good caring person than I believe God still loves you and you will go to heaven. But worshipping something that represents being against is the opposite of that.

Ultimately I cannot stand by what Satanism and following him represents, but that's my own beliefs.

posted August 12, 2021 11:46 AM            

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I have to admit I know absolutely nothing about satanism, also didnt know the meaning associated with an inverted pentagram, so googled it. On one website, s. link below, the meaning actually sounded very positive. Not to say he is NOT a satanist, , but maybe h just wanted to symbolize the below meaning with the necklace. Who knows,probably as Galactic mentioned best not to speculate and just ask, then you'd be able to confirm or deny both considerations.

"The Inverted Pentagram
An inverted pentagram, which is facing the ground instead of the heavens, represents independence, personal power, sexuality, and accomplishment. It is a rejection of Christianity’s dominance over society and a reminder that you are in control over your own fate.
https://thoughtcatalog.com/daniella-urdinlaiz/2018/09/a-list-of-satanic-symbols/

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He's a public figure so I doubt he will respond to me. But all that you mentioned is aligning with Satan and obviously being against God is exacly what God doesn't want.

posted August 12, 2021 11:58 AM            

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Originally posted by charlie:
Maybe he’s Pagan? Freemason? Born in Nagasaki? Practices Judaism? Just saying..

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posted August 12, 2021 12:45 PM            

And often times, they care a lot more about what others think about them then they would admit to self or others, and they want to be seen/perceived as dark, edgy, and "I'm going against society man". Again, a very teenage type archetype and attunement.

I.e. a lot of it is a kind of immature bravado and act.

Are there truly evil people like Richard Ramirez that believe in that, i.e. psychopaths and sociopaths, no doubt. But MOST of THOSE types are very good at hiding themselves, and ironically, some of these might publicly call themselves Christians, Jews, humanitarians, or the like.

So called high functioning sociopaths and psychopaths put a lot of energy, time, and focus in hiding their real/deeper selves from others and society. They project a good guy, good girl image to the world and others to fool them. They hide behind these projected masks.

Serial killers are not good examples of these, as they are rare even among ASPD spectrum folks, but look at Ted Bundy, until he was caught, he projected a very clean cut, good guy image to the world and society. And he would use trickery to lure his victims, such as putting his arm in a sling, or the like.

Point being, the average, especially more high functioning sociopath or psychopath isn't going to be blatantly advertising that part of themselves. They would consider that highly stupid. Again, it's just as likely, if not more, to find more people in that group that call themselves Christians or something more mainstream rather than Satanists.

I have also met plenty of Pagans kind of similar to the above, and where they are kind of clueless about deeper meanings of certain symbols. Again, lots of time it's kind of an image, rebellious, and/or attention thing, "hey, look at me, I'm different!" (often strong and/or stressed Uranus astrologically is part of it). Though of course that can be mixed in with sincere beliefs at the same time.

Basically what I'm pointing out, is that you can't always judge a book by it's cover. You have to look deeper.

This is what Yeshua was constantly pointing out to the people about the religious leaders of his time and their corruption/rottenness. The Pharisees, Sadducee's, and Scribes were considered the most upright, learned, moral, and "proper" people of their time. That's the image they projected. And in most cases, they often did follow the letter of the law i.e. they followed the Mosaic and Torah rules like washing their hands before a meal, etc.

However, there was a percentage of them that were psychopaths and sociopaths that were completely corrupt and evil within. It was these ones that HATED Yeshua, this young, upstart who was not part of the establishment, and yet was starting to garner more and more attention from the people because of his unusual works. And what they hated most about him, was that he could see right through them and called them out on their b.s. and true intentions/nature. He did not pull any punches at times in speaking to their inner rottenness.

"Snakes! Offspring of vipers! How will you escape from the judgment of Gehenna?"

(Those be some strong words, wouldn't you say?)

posted August 12, 2021 02:40 PM            

Rome was an invading, conquering but powerful force that they saw as evil and brutal, and these Jewish/Hebrew tax collectors were seen as the worst sell outs around, second only to maybe the Jewish political figures/leaders like Herod.

But despite that, Yeshua picked Matthew from among that group and made him one of his disciples. That is because Yeshua looked past the book cover and deeper into his heart, and realized, "hey, this is not such a bad guy after all. He's got some potential." Can you imagine the disbelief and distaste that some of the people and/or the other disciples may have had when they found out that Matthew had formerly been one of these despised, sell out to their own people, tax collectors?

posted August 12, 2021 03:57 PM            

I do understand where you're coming from. Im sure there are people who are just using it to be "edgy" but aren't like that at heart.
Though from my own experience, as someone having strong Uranus/Aquarius in my chart as well as it being my chart ruler, as much as I like to be unique and different, it pretty much stops at stuff too dark and against my morals.

I think a lot of people these days brush off Satanic symbolism or anything of the like as just being "edgy" or art somehow.

You are absolutely right that most people actually into Satanism will not be obvious about it. However, times are changing and that's what I was trying to get at. A lot of people these days will still try to hide Satanism and dabbling in evil just being edgy or artistic , or like you mentioned, somehow misunderstood.

You can use a dark aesthetic and it not give off actual "dark" energy vibes. For instance I really like the band evanescence and Amy Lee has very dark goth aesthetics, however it doesn't give me that "dark" energy vibe. I believe you can tell the difference. Amy Lee does have a lot of Uranus aspects, including Aqua venus but ultimately besides the dark aesthetics I don't really see her actually dabbling into some demonic stuff.

A lot of celebrities in Hollywood are not out right telling people they worship dark entities, but they show it through symbolism in their music videos and music style. Listen to newly released music, it's very low vibrational. Usually when I listen to music it uplifts me and brings me peace. More newer artists' music makes me feel down and quite brooding. I can't stand to listen to it.
But some people believe it's just an image. Maybe it is. I cant be sure.

But with your example of Matthew, I feel like that is not a good comparison to someone following Satan.
It goes back to what I said about god, god will accept anyone who comes to him. He took the hand of many of those considered sinners, but still forgave them and loved them. That is what god is about.
It's just like stealing for example. Stealing is a sin, but say someone steals because they are trying to feed their family or loved one. God will understand. Versus someone who steals for no reason, just to steal and greed. Then the intentions behind it are different.
But still God did not take the hand of those who did not have faith and take his hand. They had to be willing to take his hand, not reject it.

So yes if these Satanists somehow have a change of heart and want to confide in God, then he will forgive them and take them in just like he would anyone else who strives to do good.

But these people who are well passed the age of being a "rebellious, edgy teen" know what they are representing. There is no ignorance behind, of course unless they really are ignorant to it. But I doubt anyone wearing these symbols and actively being a part of it are doing it with knowing what they are doing. It's deliberate.
And regardless what they are doing is wrong, because by wearing all these symbols they are going against Gods agenda and influencing others towards Satan. Which I feel a lot of these celebrities are doing.

There still is a fine line between sinning and activiely going against god which is what Satan exactly is. He's Gods enemy.

I get what you mean though, because I actually had a lot of doubts about Christianity myself. A lot of Christians seemed hateful and unaccepting to me. Which is not at all how I envisioned god or how Christians should be.
So I questioned all that I thought I knew. I didn't like the views and actions of these mainstream Christians, but I also cannot reject god. It was hard, and still is. But deep inside I still have faith. I cant necessarily say who exactly God is, Ive always referred to him as Jesus and envisioned him so, but regardless of his name like I still feel him there. I do believe he's Jesus but even IF I happen to be wrong I know god is inherently good. But that also means you have to be against evil.

posted August 12, 2021 05:16 PM            

I found this topic interesting for me because I have in addition to the sun, also venus, mercury and pluto in scorpio with a moon in pisces square with mars,
all by squaring jupiter, which gives it a sagittarius and philosophical touch.

I am a student of occultism / esotericism (that does not mean that I am a Satanist or do black magic). On the contrary, that something is hidden or esoteric does not mean that everything has to be negative, I study different doctrines to find myself and free myself.

So it may be that Scorpio / Sagittarius locations are the cause .. anyway, maybe the anecdote is that has a necklace with a symbol and does not know what it means, the world is full of these people, tattoos, symbols , decorated but it is only aesthetic.

I understand your point anyway, because if this person goes to the dark side of the occult it can be creepy.

posted August 12, 2021 10:27 PM            

Unfortunately, Christianity was co-opted by dark forces a very long time ago. This was precognitively seen by John of Patmos, for he says in Revelation 17:"..and I saw a woman who sat on a blood-red beast full of blasphemous names, which had seven heads and ten horns. 4 And the woman was wearing purple and scarlet gilt with gold and precious stones and pearls and had a cup of gold in her hand, and it was full of abominations and the filth of her fornication. 5 And upon her forehead was written: “Mystery Babylon The Great, The Mother of Harlots and of the Filth of The Earth.” 6 And I saw the woman who was drunk with the blood of The Holy Ones and with the blood of the witnesses of Yeshua, and I was stunned with a great astonishment when I saw her."

If read carefully, one will understand that guidance is referring to the future Holy Roman Catholic Church. Note the two main colors (scarlet and purple the two main colors of the Roman Church) and all the ostentatious wealth, this is how we know what guidance was addressing the Roman church, which became ver wealthy and materially powerful and persecuted MANY.

When Rome co-opted the Christian movement right after trying to stamp it out and not succeeding, is when Christianity started going downhill big time, and has never returned fully to its origins. Some here and there, like Francis of Assisi, tried to redirect/nudge it back to its original message, meaning, and purpose, but the dark forces both human and nonhuman have been too much in control.

This is part of the reason why we find many very non Christian, so called Christians. Because they are not attracted to Yeshua and his original teachings and vibration (i.e. LOVE), but to this distorted, corrupted, twisted form (a Pharisaic, concerned with the letter of the law but not the Spirit of the law version).

My partner's mother is one of these type of rather slow vibrational, and hate/judgement filled dogmatic/fundamentalist Christians. The woman is a hard core narcissist and a very unhappy lady. She made my spouse's childhood miserable with her own misery, anger, and imbalance. Anyways, one time my partner had a dream where she saw her mom praying to "God", but rather than connecting to the true God, she saw that her mom was psychically connecting to a group of negative non human beings that looked serpent/reptilian humanoid in form, and which had a very negative/evil energy.

For her mom's conception of God, is an angry, vengeful, get even, smite the sinners kind of God, which is not the true God, whom is a God of unconditional and Universal Love.

Btw, I agree with you that much of Hollywood and mainstream, corporate music tends towards the slow vibrational in nature, and yes, this is not an accident or by happen chance. It's part of a plan to keep humans spiritually stuck and suffering. There are also Light forces involved with these scenes as well, but they have a hard time filtering through at times.

Anyways, in either case, you are not in a relationship with this man, so shouldn't be too concerned about what his beliefs are or aren't. Let God and the Creative Forces that work for same, take care of that. The best way you can affect positive change in this world, is to become as Love attuned and positive as you can, and spread that kind of energy/vibration, and be an example. People are more affected by direct, living examples than anything else on average.

posted August 12, 2021 10:37 PM            

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Originally posted by Dumuzi:
lavey based satanism isn't even about satan, you know that yeah?

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Get the sense you're addressing the OP here, but will chime in anyways. Yes, was aware of that, that large segments don't actually worship a supernatural deity called Satan, but more a symbol of defiance, pride, carnality, etc.

With that said, still a lot of slow vibratory energy in it all. It is extremely ego, materialist, and selfishness based. And seems to promote that ethics is completely relative and has no real meaning.

Basically a bunch of immature souls who don't really have a clue to the true nature of the larger reality, because they lack direct experience with the nonphysical, connection to their Soul and Spirit levels of self, etc. And in many cases, are being influenced by even slower vibratory than themselves, negativity entities--some former human and some ET in form.

But some (or many?) of these are not extremely negative. Not necessarily ASPD level lack of conscience, empathy, and ethics.

posted August 13, 2021 01:36 AM            

You seem very spiritually enlightened. I do believe Jesus/Yeshua like you mentioned was meant to be more "love" and less about punishing "sinners".

Thanks for your insight it was very eye opening for me. Unfortunately I have a long ways til enlightenment. I let fears get the better of me, but Im trying even though it's hard but maybe someday.

posted August 13, 2021 07:28 AM            

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Originally posted by GalacticCoreExplosionV2:

Yeah, I don't necessarily disagree with what you say in the general, but just think that true evil tends to be more subtle, hidden, and/or deceptive on average. It usually hides behind a guise of seeming good. Politicians and governments are often a good example of that.

Unfortunately, Christianity was co-opted by dark forces a very long time ago. This was precognitively seen by John of Patmos, for he says in Revelation 17:"..and I saw a woman who sat on a blood-red beast full of blasphemous names, which had seven heads and ten horns. 4 [b]And the woman was wearing purple and scarlet gilt with gold and precious stones and pearls and had a cup of gold in her hand, and it was full of abominations and the filth of her fornication. 5 And upon her forehead was written: “Mystery Babylon The Great, The Mother of Harlots and of the Filth of The Earth.” 6 And I saw the woman who was drunk with the blood of The Holy Ones and with the blood of the witnesses of Yeshua, and I was stunned with a great astonishment when I saw her."

If read carefully, one will understand that guidance is referring to the future Holy Roman Catholic Church. Note the two main colors (scarlet and purple the two main colors of the Roman Church) and all the ostentatious wealth, this is how we know what guidance was addressing the Roman church, which became ver wealthy and materially powerful and persecuted MANY.

When Rome co-opted the Christian movement right after trying to stamp it out and not succeeding, is when Christianity started going downhill big time, and has never returned fully to its origins. Some here and there, like Francis of Assisi, tried to redirect/nudge it back to its original message, meaning, and purpose, but the dark forces both human and nonhuman have been too much in control.

This is part of the reason why we find many very non Christian, so called Christians. Because they are not attracted to Yeshua and his original teachings and vibration (i.e. LOVE), but to this distorted, corrupted, twisted form (a Pharisaic, concerned with the letter of the law but not the Spirit of the law version).

My partner's mother is one of these type of rather slow vibrational, and hate/judgement filled dogmatic/fundamentalist Christians. The woman is a hard core narcissist and a very unhappy lady. She made my spouse's childhood miserable with her own misery, anger, and imbalance. Anyways, one time my partner had a dream where she saw her mom praying to "God", but rather than connecting to the true God, she saw that her mom was psychically connecting to a group of negative non human beings that looked serpent/reptilian humanoid in form, and which had a very negative/evil energy.

For her mom's conception of God, is an angry, vengeful, get even, smite the sinners kind of God, which is not the true God, whom is a God of unconditional and Universal Love.

Btw, I agree with you that much of Hollywood and mainstream, corporate music tends towards the slow vibrational in nature, and yes, this is not an accident or by happen chance. It's part of a plan to keep humans spiritually stuck and suffering. There are also Light forces involved with these scenes as well, but they have a hard time filtering through at times.

Anyways, in either case, you are not in a relationship with this man, so shouldn't be too concerned about what his beliefs are or aren't. Let God and the Creative Forces that work for same, take care of that. The best way you can affect positive change in this world, is to become as Love attuned and positive as you can, and spread that kind of energy/vibration, and be an example. People are more affected by direct, living examples than anything else on average.[/B]

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posted August 13, 2021 07:57 AM            

Occult = secret knowledge. It doesn't necessarily mean satanism. Occult could mean worship of a certain archetype ( god/goddess that isn't norm) , psychic abilities, possible rituals and ceremonies based on esoteric knowledge, study of esoteric/ancient/metaphysics/mysticism/secret/universal/alien knowledge, it's keeping things underground, not sharing that knowledge for everyone to benefit from. Not necessarily unwise/evil but not wise/good either. People who study occult stuff basically study deep topics related to the universal workings, spiritual, things that society normally doesn't learn about.I have found that anything kept secret is often bad news though, secrets are best revealed to the all so as to benefit the all, if kept buried for too long, it starts rotting, creating corruption and error.

I have found once that hippies that went against the wars used the inverted version of the peace sign which meant the opposite of peace, not everyone who uses certain symbols know their meaning (not to assume he doesn't know).

Im still new to astrology and can't say on an astrological pov except to look into his Pluto in Scorpio ( it's conj Venus so perhaps passionate and depth?)it's in 2nd house and that brings up an idea of being materialistic, maybe psyche 12h, Neptune and Saturn aswell as Uranus ( it's in 3h so he will think in a way that's against the norm, I have mine there aswell) conj Saturn gives hint to his choice of appearance or how he expresses his views.

Though we can assume how he is, it won't determine how he truly is except if you got to know him personally as the planets reflect a certain energy but how they do so in the end determines how the person expresses/acts on those energies.

In any case if he is following a way which isn't complimentary nor harmonious to yours, what does it matter how he lives or views life? Just move on from this crush.
Be like the river and flow by.

What he thinks has no effect on you, you can not change how others act and view things,the only thing you can change is yourself so just focus on what matters.

Where is the soul?

posted August 13, 2021 09:03 AM            

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Originally posted by GalacticCoreExplosionV2:

Get the sense you're addressing the OP here, but will chime in anyways. Yes, was aware of that, that large segments don't actually worship a supernatural deity called Satan, but more a symbol of defiance, pride, carnality, etc.

With that said, still a lot of slow vibratory energy in it all. It is extremely ego, materialist, and selfishness based. And seems to promote that ethics is completely relative and has no real meaning.

Basically a bunch of immature souls who don't really have a clue to the true nature of the larger reality, because they lack direct experience with the nonphysical, connection to their Soul and Spirit levels of self, etc. And in many cases, are being influenced by even slower vibratory than themselves, negativity entities--some former human and some ET in form.

But some (or many?) of these are not extremely negative. Not necessarily ASPD level lack of conscience, empathy, and ethics.

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i was addressing her yeah

many satanists do not worship or even believe in satan it's like you said in a different post it's like an extended rebellious phase (he also may just like metal and it may have to do with a band was an initial thought of mine in which case it's not even about religion whatsoever)

it's not entirely selfish, while it's not something i personally follow i have read lavey's writing and a good deal of it is about living your life in a way that satisfies you as long as you DONT infringe on other people

it's not at all encouraging of boundless selfishness as a matter of fact there's a lot of being mindful of others encouraged in it

at least in the satanic bible, because what lavey is raging against is his upbringing (lot of satanists are)

there's certainly "low vibe" people in any belief system but i wouldn't say satanism as it's written encourages it

it does encourage ideas like sexual freedom and being yourself regardless of whether or not people try to tell you yourself is wrong or that anything 2 (or more) consenting adults engage in is fine as long as they're happy with it etc

but there's definitive lines drawn and "just don't be ****** " is a huge sentiment

so it's really a bit unfair to call it low ethics and morals etc because that's not actually the case as it's written

i think anyone raised christian but disillusioned by the church pretty much universally agrees with the whole "do unto others" rule above anything else, at least that's been my experience

there's touches of immaturity sure given the figurehead but it's so far removed and the idea of ritual in satanism (symbolism too) is that people are intrinsically affected by such things

posted August 13, 2021 09:14 AM            

no offense or anything but how can you call yourself a christian if you've never even properly looked at the very foundation of your beliefs? like how do you take yourself or any of it seriously if you haven't read the text because individuals put their own perspective on **** and a lot of that "good deeds" matter **** isn't in the bible like what you said is inherently wrong in biblical terms

stealing for greed is entirely forgivable 🤷‍♀️ the only sin that's not is blasphemy against the holy spirit

bible literally makes it a point and declares all sin as more or less equal

if you don't know the core beliefs of a religion how can you declare yourself part of it? liking the idea of a figure in it based on what people cherry pick isn't the same as truly following a religion enough to claim to be devout

posted August 13, 2021 01:42 PM            

I think my own beliefs are very personal and I dont think you really have the right to tell me what and how I should believe in it?

Yes I have not read the Bible. I dont know where on here I said I called myself a Christian, but I know I cant since I chose not to read it.
But even if I did, if I am praying to Jesus and believe he is the son of God that is in line with Christianity right?

Yes people put their own spin on the Bible and have thought about reading it but there are a few reason why I dont.

For one, the original writing isn't even in English, so I would literally have to learn another language just get an accurate interpretation of what the Bible says.

Secondly, like I mentioned earlier I actually have had a hard time with Christianity because of the ones who follow it and call themselves "Christians". Im not sure what makes them become the way they are, is it going to church and reading the Bible that makes them arrogant in their beliefs? I dont know. In any case I dont want to become like them.

Yes Im aware my own beliefs might not be completely in line with Christianity. To be honest Im not sure what to call myself as I have come to terms that no one really knows who is God. But I do know that the one I have been praying to is there. I do imagine him being Jesus and that is why I align myself more with Christianity.
But regardless I think in the end God will understand that not everyone knows exactly what is true.

Also, I didn't say that stealing for greed is unforgivable. I was comparing different intentions behind things makes a difference.

But like I said I believe god forgives anything if you strive to be good. You can steal for greed, but if you keep doing it again and again knowing it is wrong, you are not striving to do good.
That's my point.

In any case, I dont understand why people get triggered by dislike for what Satanism is, or my own beliefs. Im not forcing anyone on here to believe the same. You're entitled to your own beliefs.
I get that my beliefs are probably cherry picked, as there are some things in the Bible I dont like. But Im following my own gut about what I believe. I dont think I should have to read up on everything just to come to terms with my beliefs. Spirituality is something personal and I dont believe I have to apply logic to what I believe in or know why I do believe in it.

Just like people in here are saying that I shouldn't care about what he believes in, I can say the same?

posted August 13, 2021 01:56 PM            

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Whats with all these birds usernames they are Jesus trolls go away your post is fake.

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posted August 13, 2021 01:58 PM            

Hi SoulofaBird,

There are plenty of decent to very good Christians out there even with all this historical corruption and spiritual interference/warfare. And the sad fact is, the human ego is pretty good on its own at distorting and corrupting things. I mean, I've seen slow vibratory behavior and perceptions from people of every faith and belief system. Heck, I've even seen the Dali Lama say/do some boneheaded things like some of what he has said about women, I don't agree with, or giving Keith Raniere, a sociopathic cult leader, an endorsement of sorts.

Thank you for the kind words. I'm not fully spiritually enlightened yet, but just have made a life long habit of going deep within and listening to voices and sources far wiser, more aware, and Love attuned than my own personality. It rubs off some after awhile.

If I could teach only two things to people, it would be a combo of good techniques to go within and communicate with inner guidance directly, and the utmost importance of Universal Love and trying to live same. I feel these two, are the primary corner stones and keys to eventual full liberation/enlightenment (well these, and not getting overly attached to human dogma and codified belief systems). If you distill Yeshua's example and teachings down to their core points and truths, this is what he was trying to teach, preach, example, and live as to have a freeing effect on others.

The lacking in Light forces hate him with a burning passion, and they are constantly looking for ways to undermine him and his retrieval efforts, or to keep people away from his true essence.

posted August 13, 2021 02:08 PM            

Good points Dumuzi and overall, nice holistic treatment.

Yeah, I probably should get to know some more Satanists directly, before overly coming to conclusions. Us strongly attuned Jupiter folks tend towards being generalists (though I'm not too bad with all this Cap, Virgo, and Mercury combo counterbalancing).