posted July 05, 2011 04:10 PM            

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Originally posted by starr33:
Let's not confuse being judgmental with discrimination, Pire. Anyone who doesn't report their child missing for 31 days, even if she is innocent of murder, should at least serve time for child neglect, added to the sentence she cost detectives (time and money), leading them on a wild goose chase.

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yes

and she did 3 years in jail already

the charges in this case were MURDER, did she kill her daughter? and the jury said no, more correctly, cause we don't know the motive of the jury, it is safe to say that they were not convinced by the prosecution that she did kill her daughter.

now everyone is allowed to voice their opinion. and that is what many people did during 3 years from what I gather. even though they were safely seating in their sofa while she was waiting in a cell 23hours a day, waiting to be judge and potentially killed.

I say it is easy to judge when we are not on the line.

posted July 05, 2011 04:15 PM            

This guy nailed it. "If she didn't do it, who did?"

http://www.orlandosentinel.com/videobeta/?watchId=ebec2d40-4342-4f83-90fb-4023eab211e3

posted July 05, 2011 04:26 PM            

my question is did WHAT?

true a kid died, but then, you need to come with proof if you accuse someone of killing her.

for having followed the trial, there was nothing that was so obvious as the frenzy circus was repeating over and over, at least during the trial, since I am in france and could only judge the bias from the medias when I was following the trial.

it was so unbearable to be told what to think and to have no room left to make my own opinion that I had to change the channel on which I followed the trial. I first watched it on WFTV but switched for local 6. It was still the same slant (?) but slightly less. they were more objective.

posted July 05, 2011 04:35 PM            

that she was potentially sentenced to death. and rethorics don't make someone guilty. facts do. there were none regarding the murder. one by one, the evidence given by the state were falling apart. I think the more telling, but you just need to go back to watch it entirely to see the others, but the most telling lack of evidence, or misleading "proofs" were the 84 chloroform searches on the internet. it appeared that the software used to find those number was not accurate.

it was the same for everything else.

ok she had a tatoo saying "la vita bella" done aftyer caylee was supposedly dead. that is compelling, but it doesn't mean she KILLED her daughter.

it can mean plenty other things IMO, and in the opinion of the jury, which luckily are the only one that matter!!!!

posted July 05, 2011 04:42 PM            

week 2 http://www.youtube.com/user/1947Sierra#g/c/DE8C1750F1EA34E5

week 3 http://www.youtube.com/user/1947Sierra#g/c/0450E3B32BDA7F7A

week 4 http://www.youtube.com/user/1947Sierra#g/c/696C83A7328ACCAF

week 5 http://www.youtube.com/user/1947Sierra#g/c/36FFEE0E1296EFBF

week 6 http://www.youtube.com/user/1947Sierra#g/c/E2D8586DD9C10805

june 30th http://www.youtube.com/user/1947Sierra#g/c/250D953CE333D4C3

july 1st http://www.youtube.com/user/1947Sierra#g/c/5FC403E8F45767F8

july 3rd http://www.youtube.com/user/1947Sierra#g/c/2A1EF8BAD490CC76

july 4th http://www.youtube.com/user/1947Sierra#g/c/69DC9218AC55C194

posted July 05, 2011 05:26 PM            

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Originally posted by starr33:
The jury didn't say no, pire. They just didn't have enough evidence to convict her of murder. Just because the law has the final say, doesn't make it right. Casey's actions speak for themselves. I probably shouldn't say this as a moderator, but Pire: Get your head out of your @ss.

You're so full of sh!t in your pursuit of getting a rise out of people on such a delicate issue. So, I'll play. You think you have guts? You only pretend to be unique in your views by taking the opposite side just beacuse your sick of seeing and hearing the same thing. There's a good reason why you do, pire. And that "kid"? Her name was Caylee.

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I am off to bed cause it's night time here in france. but I'd like to reply to you

first thing, you behave as you decide. mod or not, I don't care. I am not concerned by that aspect anymore. I am not involved with the politics of here anymore.

now regarding what you say:

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"The jury didn't say no, pire. They just didn't have enough evidence to convict her of murder."

what do you mean by, "the jury didn't say no" ? no to what? sorry I really don't know what you talks about in this particular instance. but regarding the second sentence I am quoting, indeed, there was not enough tangible proof to sentence casey anthony. and I find it relieving to think that YOU live in a country that take the importance of prooving an accusation at heart. that is what did the jury today, and this way held high the moral standard in your country.

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"Just because the law has the final say, doesn't make it right."

and that is why we have politics (not the men, but the art), to create laws. if they are not right change them. but remember that everyone is equal under the law, unless you want to change that as well ???

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"Casey's actions speak for themselves. I probably shouldn't say this as a moderator, but Pire: Get your head out of your @ss."

so do yours. (actions)

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"You're so full of sh!t in your pursuit of getting a rise out of people on such a delicate issue. So, I'll play."

I am not playing. I am stating my opinion after following the trial almost every days. have you watched it or have you been fed by tv news? then we'll talk if you want, and not play. as for getting a rise in people out of a delicate issue, well guess what, it does get a rise out of me that in a supposed democracy that invades other countries to share their freedom, right, law and order, they all gang up on some young 20 something mother and judge her guilty before HEARING the proof, unlike the jury who did hear them and found her NOT GUILTY. now you can watch the videos of the trial I posted them for you.

again not trying to get a rise out of anyone, just stating my truth.

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"You think you have guts? You only pretend to be unique in your views by taking the opposite side just beacuse your sick of seeing and hearing the same thing."

well, I must inform you that in france this case doesn't make the headlines, in fact I never heard it mentioned over here in the press or the TV. never. and it is not personal, well for me at least. I have compassion for a woman that a trial has proven to me that NOTHING given as evidence by the state prooves her guilt of what she's accused. I understand that she was a young mother, that her babby died, it could have been an accident and it is more likely since the theory given by the state was not proven by facts.

I understand everyone is different, some are young and responsible, some are not, some are made responsible adults by their parents, some are not, and casey never fully grew into a mother's role besides cuddling her daughter as seen on videos. that role was occupied by her own mother. so she remained imature and kept partying.

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"There's a good reason why you do, pire."

now you must enlighten me on that one.

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"And that "kid"? Her name was Caylee."

posted July 05, 2011 06:52 PM            

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Originally posted by starr33:
Let's not confuse being judgmental with discrimination, Pire. Anyone who doesn't report their child missing for 31 days, even if she is innocent of murder, should at least serve time for child neglect, added to the sentence she cost detectives (time and money), leading them on a wild goose chase.

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You're right, she was charged with child neglect back in 2008, and also for filing a false report (lying to the police).

posted July 05, 2011 06:59 PM            

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Originally posted by PlutoSquared:
Another sociopath gets away with murder.

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posted July 05, 2011 07:22 PM            

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Originally posted by starr33:
But he knows. He knows.

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posted July 05, 2011 10:24 PM            

An unbiased jury returned its verdict, and that's it. Like I said, Thank God they were unbiased and untainted and kept a clear head.

posted July 05, 2011 10:29 PM            

Plenty of people that are guilty are let go on technicalities or because there isn't enough evidence. Likewise, plenty of innocent people are sent to jail on less circumstantial evidence than in this case. There are LOTS of times the system fails.

posted July 05, 2011 10:51 PM            

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I wonder if Casey was a large, brutish, tattoo'd minority male from the wrong side of the tracks if it the verdict would have been the same. I don't really believe so.

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