posted August 12, 2017 01:56 PM            

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Hi all. I am a law student at the University of Virginia. Tonight, as you have seen from multiple posts, Richard Spencer and several neo-nazi groups held a surprise torch lit rally, ahead of the Unite the Right rally that is scheduled for tomorrow.

My friend and I arrived on campus and were met with hundreds of white nationalists--of course, 99% white men--carrying torches through what is known as the lawn, the main quad of campus. They chanted, "You will not replace us" and "white lives matter." Because they planned the rally for when students would not be on campus, and they held this rally as a surprise, there were comparatively much fewer counter-protestors. We tried to keep our distance, but felt it was tremendously important to document what was happening, so we went live on our phones; below is that video.

The white nationalist groups walked around the rotunda, which sits at the front of the lawn, and began to gather around the Thomas Jefferson statute on the other side of the rotunda. At the statute were about ten of our fellow UVA students, with a sign that read "UVA Students Against White Supremacy." The nazi group gathered around them for about 30 seconds, as the rest of the white nationalists came down from the steps and joined the circle, and then began to attack the UVA students at the base of the statute; the students were brutally beaten and outnumbered at least 50 to 1. Police began to intervene, seemingly spraying pepper spray or tear gas, forcing the crowd to disperse. Many people tried to run, and were arrested when they were caught by the police, who had formed a circle around the group.
Clashes continued to occur between the nazis, counter-protestors, and police; in the chaos, Richard Spencer ascended the stairs, and came to the balcony where my friend and I were watching in horror, trying to figure out what to do. When he reached the top, his security detail surrounded him, and it appeared as though he was attempting to make a speech. Someone brought out a megaphone for him but, as you can hear in the video, it was "out of juice." Richard Spencer screamed to the crowd, "We just won a historic victory. We occupy the streets."
When he realized he wasn't going to get the publicity he wanted, and when the fighting between protestors/counter-protestors intensified, Richard Spencer left, with his security detail and various other supporters (many of them much younger than I, probably about 15 or 16). I assume that he expected to be arrested for inciting a riot. His security detail surrounded him and escorted him back down the rotunda stairs, across the lawn, through campus, and finally to two cars awaiting his group. He left his younger supporters behind.

My friend and I were the only people who realized Richard Spencer left; no media were present. We were trying to notify media and police where he was on campus. We engaged very little--the Unite the Right members made it clear they would be armed, and my friend and I were concerned about our personal safety.

I have never been more terrified in my life than when I saw those hundreds of torches marching through campus. But the very few UVA students who were there held our ground--it was Richard Spencer who organized a surprise rally like a coward, and surrounded himself with a security detail while his own followers were tear-gassed and arrested.

This is a call to action--tomorrow will be one of the largest white nationalist protests in modern history. While Charlottesville had a tremendous turnout earlier in the summer, when the KKK held a rally in one of our parks downtown, the KKK was outnumbered by thousands of counter-protestors. As you can see from this video, tomorrow will be very different than that. These nazi groups are emboldened when met with little opposition. We need as many protestors here tomorrow as possible; there is strength in numbers, as well as safety.
I'm scared, of course I am, but I will be there tomorrow because I have a duty to be. As a white person, I know it is easier for me to occupy this space safely than persons of color. I'm going to show up for all of the people who cannot. Please join us, if you are able to.

"The only thing necessary for the triumph of evil is for good people to do nothing." -Edmund Burke

EDIT: I think Facebook settings make it impossible to share this video with the text included. Please feel free to copy and paste my text. My real name is Elizabeth Sines. My friend's name is Leanne Chia (Peanne Chia). Thank you for helping us get the word out.

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posted August 12, 2017 01:59 PM            

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Nobody is trying to legislate away their right to marry.
Nobody is trying to make them buy insurance to pay for 'male health care.'

The law never:
Enslaved their great-grandparents
Robbed their grandparents
Imprisoned their parents
Shot them when unarmed

There is no massive effort at the state and local level to disenfranchise them of the vote.
There is no history of centuries of bad science devoted to 'proving' their intellectual inferiority.
There is no travel ban on them because of their religion.
There is no danger for them when they carry dangerous weaponry publicly.
Their churches were never burned.
Their lawns never decorated with burning crosses
Their ancestors never hung from trees
Their mothers aren't being torn away by ICE troopers and sent away forever. They won't be forced to leave the only country they ever knew.
The president has not set up a hotline to report crime committed at their hands.

They are chanting 'we will not be replaced.'
Replaced as ... what?
I'll tell you.

Replaced as the only voice in public discussions.
Replaced as the only bodies in the public arena.
Replaced as the only life that matters.

THIS is 'white people' oppression:
We used to be the only voice. Now we hold the only microphone.

THIS is 'white man' oppression.
We face criticism now. We were free from it, because others feared the consequences.

THIS is 'oppression' of white Christians in this country.
Christmas used to be the only holiday acknowledged, now it's not.

I would so love to see these people get all the oppression they insist they receive, just for a year. Just to see.

Give them a world where you ACTUALLY can't say Christmas.
A world where the name "Geoff" on a resume puts it in the trash.

Give them a world where they suddenly get a 20% pay cut, and then 70 women every day tell them to smile more.

Give them a world where their polo shirt makes people nervous, so they're kicked off the flight from Pittsburgh to Indianapolis.

Give them a world where they inherited nothing but a very real understanding of what oppression really ******* is.

Give them a world where if they pulled up on a campus with torches lit and started throwing hands, the cops would punch their eyes out.

Put THAT in your Tiki torches and light it, you sorry Nazi ******* .

-@JuliusGoat

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posted August 12, 2017 02:17 PM            

The Klan is not a far right group. The Klan is your boys and girls...democrats since the 1920s.

Grand Poobah of the Klan Senator Robert KKK Byrd...Democrat and mentor of the Queen of Corruption, Hillary The Corrupt.

posted August 12, 2017 03:23 PM            

We are not in the 1920s anymore. Wake up sleeping beauty

Robert Byrd left the klan in the 40s after being involved with a small rural chapter as a young man. How long does it take to catch up?

posted August 12, 2017 03:44 PM            

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David Duke, the former KKK grand wizard, is unambiguous about what Saturday’s alt-right and neo-Nazi rally in Charlottesville, Virginia, means to him: It’s the fulfillment of President Trump’s vision for America.

“We are determined to take our country back,” Duke said from the rally, calling it a “turning point.” “We are going to fulfill the promises of Donald Trump. That’s what we believed in. That’s why we voted for Donald Trump, because he said he’s going to take our country back.”

The Charlottesville rally is nominally about the removal of a statue of Confederate General Robert E. Lee rather than anything in the Trump administration. But Duke was an enthusiastic supporter of Trump as far back as the Republican primary in 2016, and Trump’s reluctance to disavow that support was, briefly, a big issue.

Duke has remained a faithful Trump supporter since then, insisting that the president-elect’s policies line up with the former KKK leader’s vision for America.

He was less happy with Trump’s vague tweet condemning the violence later Saturday afternoon:
http://twitter.com/DrDavidDuke/status/896431991821926401

"I would recommend you take a good look in the mirror & remember it was White Americans who put you in the presidency, not radical leftists. http://twitter.com/realDonaldTrump/status/896420822780444672 …"

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posted August 12, 2017 06:31 PM            

“We are determined to take our country back"

posted August 12, 2017 10:19 PM            

Alt right wild hogs killing people.

Can`t divert, defend or change the story with leftist/Democratic crappola.

2 State Police also dead covering the idiots

in making america great again.

posted August 12, 2017 10:28 PM            

I hear there were some violent antiprotesters as well but in what universe are torches brought by people looking for peace? Do you just stand aside and let a man waving a torch walk into your house?

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The white nationalist groups walked around the rotunda, which sits at the front of the lawn, and began to gather around the Thomas Jefferson statute on the other side of the rotunda. At the statute were about ten of our fellow UVA students, with a sign that read "UVA Students Against White Supremacy." The nazi group gathered around them for about 30 seconds, as the rest of the white nationalists came down from the steps and joined the circle, and then began to attack the UVA students at the base of the statute; the students were brutally beaten and outnumbered at least 50 to 1. Police began to intervene, seemingly spraying pepper spray or tear gas, forcing the crowd to disperse. Many people tried to run, and were arrested when they were caught by the police, who had formed a circle around the group.

posted August 12, 2017 11:14 PM            

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Originally posted by Randall:
The left was there also with weapons and their usual violence (ANTIFA). Both sides were violent. Both sides. Both. Yet, the governor didn't mention ANTIFA.

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posted August 13, 2017 12:38 AM            

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Originally posted by Randall:
Juni, you are free to hate President Trump, and you are free to call yourself an "independent" when clearly you defend Hillary's blatant criminal acts like Democrats do, but at least try to be rational. The only people to blame for violence are those whom are responsible for their own actions. It has nothing to do with "making America great." President Trump could find the cure for cancer, and Dems would say that he is hurting the funeral business! Dems stand for nothing but "resist Trump." It's an identity crisis that will leave their party in shambles in 2018. And please, God please, let Chief Warren get the nomination for 2020.

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posted August 13, 2017 01:51 AM            

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Originally posted by juniperb:
[b]unite the right

Alt right wild hogs killing people.

Can`t divert, defend or change the story with leftist/Democratic crappola.

2 State Police also dead covering the idiots

in making america great again.

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I saw video of a young black man, getting beaten by several white men, with bats. Police officers did nothing. The man who took the video, ran up and kicked one of the white men in the back, to get him away from the kid.

posted August 13, 2017 02:34 AM            

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Originally posted by Randall:
DUHHH!

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There's that wonderful respect for fellow posters.

posted August 13, 2017 08:30 AM            

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Originally posted by teasel:
It's an ALT-RIGHT group!!!!!!!

God damn it. READ.

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The KKK is not an alt-right group.

Black Lives Matter is not an alt-right group.

Anifa is not an alt-right group.

Worker's World Party is not an alt-right group.

posted August 13, 2017 10:58 AM            

I bet you know a few who found him too mild and didn't vote for him, but that is only pure rethoric, cause everyone, I mean the world, can see what is going on