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Topic: "Bad" Asteroids...
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IntuitiveJ
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posted April 14, 2014 05:46 AM
  
Would love to hear some thoughts regarding the "bad" asteroids in regards to synastry.
To name a few:
Lie
Swindle
Split
Paine (pain)
Pan (panic)
Fanale (finality)
There are so many! If these aspect a planet/"good" asteroid or fall into one of the important relationship houses (4,7,8) would you put much weight on them?What I thought looked like a nice synastry turned evil looking after I plugged in some of these asteroids! Would much appreciate opinions on how everyone sees these or if they're used. Thank you! IP: Logged |
Ami Anne
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posted April 14, 2014 08:08 AM
Wow Some of these I never used. If you have the numbers, would you be willing to put them up.
*I* call things as good and bad. Some people go insane with this but I like to call things as they are because I believe truth is love and it is also mental health  At any rate, I have seen Swindle and Lie be exactly as they say they are. In fact, I have seen all the bad asteroids play out, as one would expect. This would be Nessus( abuse), Sedna( betrayal), Maniac( mania) etc etc Please, tell me your stories with them. I would love to hear! ------------------
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Ami Anne
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posted April 14, 2014 08:09 AM
I would only put weight on close conjunctions and maybe EXACT other aspects with asteroids. I would not count a placement in a house etc------------------
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Gabby
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posted April 14, 2014 08:44 AM
Alona(15230)
Anga (3158)- anger
Angrilli (18102)-angerly
Apatheia (8273)
Baade (1501)
Casanova (7328)
Deprez (9795)
Devience (21419)
Dick (17458)
Fanatica (1589)
Fanale (3478)
Fink (10891)
Grieve (4451)
Grimm (6912)
Hasse (7478) German for 'Hate'
Hazard (9305)
Hinderer (3404)
Lie (26955)
Maniac (228029)
Medusa (149)
Melancholia (5708)
Mentall (7116)
NOT (28570)
Nemisis (128)
Ohno (5180)
Pecker (1629)
Pest (6817)
Pinocchio (12927)
Poisson (12874)
Prevert (18624)
Prey (6157)
Paine (5188)
Part (4087)
Sedna (90377)
Sado (118230)
Split (12512)
Storm (12182)
Swindle (8690)
Swings (1637)
Tore (97186)
Villon (10140)15230,3158,18102,8273,1501,7328,9795,21419,17458,
1589,
3478,10891,4451,6912,7478,9305,3404,26955,228029,149,
5708,7116,28570,128,5180,1629,6817,12927,12874,18624,
6157,5188,4087,90377,118230,12512,12182,8690,1637,97186,10140
I think there is some repeats here, sorry
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IntuitiveJ
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posted April 14, 2014 09:11 AM
Yes that's the list I saw!
I will go back & check aspects...
I was more concerned about house placements which I'm happy you don't think holds much weight  However...this aspect has me confused.
Mans natal valentine conjuncts asteroid "split".
In synastry these conjunct woman's sun, mercury & DSc. 7th house.
So without the "split" it looked nice!
Same synastry his "lie" conjunct his natal sun.
Falling into her 1st house, no planets aspected but very wide conjunction to her Asc.
So again- looked nice before I started plugging in the asteroids!
There are many more as well...
Thoughts?
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IntuitiveJ
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posted April 14, 2014 09:28 AM
Same synastry...
Woman's "karma" conjunct her "lie"
Exact conjunction to mans "karma" in 7th house.
Not generational conjunction- many years age diff between the 2. So karma conjunct karma in 7th looked beautiful before the nasties were plugged in! Lol IP: Logged |
Moon is Lunatic
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posted April 14, 2014 01:41 PM
Out of those, I have:Sun conjunct Pest & Ohno
Moon conjunct Deprez
Prevert & Dick conjunct Asc
Saturn conjunct Sedna & Prey
Tore & Hasse conjunct IC
Mars conjunct Part
Jupiter conjunct Grimm
Mercury conjunct Hinderer
Baade conjunct Dejanira All are within 2-3 degrees IP: Logged |
IntuitiveJ
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posted April 14, 2014 02:08 PM
Is that natal or synastry?
Do you feel like houses contribute to their affect? quote:
Originally posted by Moon is Lunatic:
Out of those, I have:Sun conjunct Pest & Ohno
Moon conjunct Deprez
Prevert & Dick conjunct Asc
Saturn conjunct Sedna & Prey
Tore & Hasse conjunct IC
Mars conjunct Part
Jupiter conjunct Grimm
Mercury conjunct Hinderer
Baade conjunct Dejanira All are within 2-3 degrees
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Catalina
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posted April 14, 2014 02:36 PM
It may be a stretch to interpret those as "bad" asteroids. for instance
POISSON means FISH in french, not poison
PREVERT is the name of a French surrealist writer
GRIMM the fairy tale writer not the adjective
PAINE is Tom Paine american hero
VILLON is a french name as well, not villain...FANALE is an Italian word ("fanale
n a powerful light with reflector; attached to the front of an automobile or locomotive")
etc etc etc
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IntuitiveJ
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posted April 14, 2014 03:16 PM
That's a good & interesting point!
When I was plugging them in to synastry & seeing "Paine" or some of the others making aspects to other love asteroids or relationship houses I assumed it meant "painful"
Same with "storm" and "split"
But maybe those should be taken more literal?
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Originally posted by Catalina:
It may be a stretch to interpret those as "bad" asteroids. for instance
POISSON means FISH in french, not poison
PREVERT is the name of a French surrealist writer
GRIMM the fairy tale writer not the adjective
PAINE is Tom Paine american hero
VILLON is a french name as well, not villain...FANALE is an Italian word ("fanale
n a powerful light with reflector; attached to the front of an automobile or locomotive")
etc etc etc
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Moon is Lunatic
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posted April 14, 2014 03:24 PM
quote:
Originally posted by IntuitiveJ:
Is that natal or synastry?
Do you feel like houses contribute to their affect?
In my natal.
I'm not sure what most of them mean so I'm not sure lol. IP: Logged |
Moon is Lunatic
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posted April 14, 2014 03:25 PM
quote:
Originally posted by IntuitiveJ:
That's a good & interesting point!
When I was plugging them in to synastry & seeing "Paine" or some of the others making aspects to other love asteroids or relationship houses I assumed it meant "painful"
Same with "storm" and "split"
But maybe those should be taken more literal?
Paine also means pressure in my language finnish. IP: Logged |
Ami Anne
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posted April 14, 2014 05:45 PM
Thank you, Gabby dear--you glorious Virgo Moon ------------------
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Gabby
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posted April 14, 2014 07:51 PM
quote:
Originally posted by Catalina:
It may be a stretch to interpret those as "bad" asteroids. for instance
POISSON means FISH in french, not poison
PREVERT is the name of a French surrealist writer
GRIMM the fairy tale writer not the adjective
PAINE is Tom Paine american hero
VILLON is a french name as well, not villain...FANALE is an Italian word ("fanale
n a powerful light with reflector; attached to the front of an automobile or locomotive")
etc etc etc
Asteroids are about association, the same way a psychologist uses an ink blot test to learn about a persons psyche, where they have been and what they have experienced in life...it's not going to about the fact that the ink blot looks like a butterfly to some ppl and a monster to another....it's going to be what it means to you.(at least with the lesser known asteroids that are not named after specific Gods or well known person/places/things)
If you see Poisson and think fish then that's what it means to you, probably because that's what your culture taught you. If your like me and see that word, you think "oh no, danger" then that is what it means to you. Most ppl would see the asteroid "Santa", and think oh, Santa Claus...and that's because that is how it relates to them. In their chart Santa is Santa Claus! But reality is Santa was not named after Ol St. Nick....at all!
"It's one of 66 asteroids spotted by Italian astronomer Eugene Delporte, Miller explains. NOT, though, named for the Santa we know and love or fear (when we're suddenly sitting in his lap). Writes Miller, "This chunk of cosmic debris was actually named by the Italian who computed its orbit, and is not intended as the celestial namesake of jolly old St. Nicholas, but rather the generic feminine form of "Saint" in Italian, also meaning "holy, sacred, or blessed."" POISSON means FISH in french, not poison
If you would never in a million years associate Poisson with a fish then it's not going to mean fish in your chart. PREVERT is the name of a French surrealist writer
If you've never heard of this writer and where not aware he existed, it's probably not going to be related to him or his writings. GRIMM the fairy tale writer not the adjective
Again...if you don't know about this...it won't relate in your chart. PAINE is Tom Paine american hero
I've never heard of him, but I'm sure some have, first thing that jumps into head when I hear pain is "ouch, that hurt" VILLON is a french name as well, not villain...
I'm not French so this relates to me as a bad guy. FANALE is an Italian word ("fanale
n a powerful light with reflector; attached to the front of an automobile or locomotive") Makes no sense to me why they would call a powerful light reflector a fanale, to me I would think if anything on a train is going to be called this it should be the back end of a car or on a train the last car, the Caboose...so I would not relate this word to what it means in Italian. IP: Logged |
IntuitiveJ
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posted April 14, 2014 09:59 PM
I'm still freaked out by the bad asteroids...they turn a seemingly normal synastry into a hot mess!IP: Logged |
Ami Anne
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posted April 14, 2014 10:04 PM
quote:
Originally posted by IntuitiveJ:
I'm still freaked out by the bad asteroids...they turn a seemingly normal synastry into a hot mess!
You have to remember that we all have them. They can be activated in synastry, too. For example, a person may not have a prominent Nessus but if it touches someone's Moon, that person will want to be abusive to the Moon person imo
Will they be? Most likely lol
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Ami Anne
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posted April 14, 2014 10:26 PM
GabbyTrust yourself. You are an amazing astrologer with amazing intuition.  ------------------
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Gabby
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posted April 14, 2014 10:52 PM
quote:
Originally posted by Ami Anne:
GabbyTrust yourself. You are an amazing astrologer with amazing intuition.
Thank you Ami, I believe if you know what your dealing with you have much more control over it... Compared to it coming at you and your totally oblivious to what your dealing with. IP: Logged |
Catalina
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posted April 15, 2014 12:06 AM
I see where you're coming from, but my tendency when I see an asteroid (and knowing they are often named after discoverers or something the namer finds relevant) is to look up the word/name, just as if I were reading a book with words I didn't know in it... because the intent of the namer may shed light on the meaning. While I agree with you about relevance and resonance, if we assign any old meaning to planets and points, we might as well not bother to study, share and ask at all. I am not deciding for you but sharing a little info... which now you ARE privy to.
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Catalina
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posted April 15, 2014 12:14 AM
Astrology is a language and a map to me, and as in English the difference between your and you're is significant to comprehension, so I see it with charts and asteroids. Not calling you wrong, just trying to add a little info...And in fact all these asteroids are in all our charts...many have NO relevance whatsoever to most people.. but if you had a client who assumed that Pan meant panic, would you not point out that Pan was a god who embodied quite the opposite? IP: Logged |
IntuitiveJ
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posted April 15, 2014 12:49 AM
Thoughts on a good/bad asteroid conjunct each other?
Example: valentine conjuncts lie natal.Are you lying to yourself about true love? Now this touches another's planet in synastry! One asteroid is lovely, the other sounds terrible. Good or bad? IP: Logged |
Gabby
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posted April 15, 2014 01:08 AM
It's all very personal, all I'm saying is don't judge others off your experiences!IP: Logged |
Catalina
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posted April 15, 2014 01:12 AM
I'm not judging anyone, if you're talking to me... just offering some info that might shed clarity. If you don't like it that's your prerogative. Or maybe it would be just the same if I said it's your peephole??  Perhaps the asteroid FANALE has no relevance in your life?
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Catalina
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posted April 15, 2014 01:14 AM
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Ami Anne
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posted April 15, 2014 11:12 AM
quote:
Originally posted by Gabby:
It's all very personal, all I'm saying is don't judge others off your experiences!
I have a long time relationship with Cata. My advice is to ignore her! One of her purposes on LL, in my humble opinion, is to start fights. ------------------
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