posted December 23, 2011 09:45 AM              

I think he is an emotionally abusive (Nessus in a water sign) and manipulative person and has an evil smile/laugh. He is just like Nessus in that he tries to interfere in his friend's love life.

It probably is more potent and visible on the Sun-Moon midpoint.

I'm just replying to this cuz no one else has replied yet and thought this might be better than nothing. Sorry if this is a placement in your own chart. It's possible I feel negatively about this person because his Sun-Nessus-Mercury forms a t-square with my Mars-Pluto, but still, actions are actions. It's like he was playing out the role of Nessus (except he hasn't been killed off lol).

posted December 23, 2011 10:49 AM            

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Originally posted by Capriquarius:
I know of someone whose Nessus is between his Sun-Mercury conjunction, in other words, his Sun-Mercury midpoint.

I think he is an emotionally abusive (Nessus in a water sign) and manipulative person and has an evil smile/laugh. He is just like Nessus in that he tries to interfere in his friend's love life.

It probably is more potent and visible on the Sun-Moon midpoint.

I'm just replying to this cuz no one else has replied yet and thought this might be better than nothing. Sorry if this is a placement in your own chart. It's possible I feel negatively about this person because his Sun-Nessus-Mercury forms a t-square with my Mars-Pluto, but still, actions are actions. It's like he was playing out the role of Nessus (except he hasn't been killed off lol).

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Hi Capriaquarius, many thanks for replying... nope. not my placement in my own chart, but someone who I dated but whom I just ended the relationship. He always make it seemed as if anything that goes wrong, its my fault. He never take responsibility that he may be at fault too. Its always "you put yourself in that position to be hurt." I always wondered if this placement means he will be abusive to ppl who is close to him... and the funniest thing is, I didn't wanna argue back.. just a waste of breath sometimes. :P

posted December 23, 2011 05:22 PM              

I thought this is worth reiterating, if not for you (since you're through with this fellow, good on you!), then for whoever else might find it useful:

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Originally posted by Taineberry:
The sun/moon midpoint according to Robert Hand is "The balance of male and female in your psyche which expresses itself in terms of relationships with the opposite sex. It is the point of inner psychological balance"

Apart from it being important when activated in synastry, the sun/moon midpoint describes how you go about balancing your need to assert your sense of personal identity with what you need to make you feel emotionally secure. If you look at the Sabian, you will get a description of the quality of the energy and the information flow that helps you acheive balance between the conscious and the subconscious mind. The sun/moon midpoint is the point where you feel whole and complete in yourself; it is the approach you take to accept yourself on a deeper level where yin/yang energy meets.

Where a planet falls on a midpoint, the midpoint becomes an integral part of that planet's expression. According to Hand, the conjunction and the opposition are both considered "direct" midpoints; there should be no distiction made between them and both should be treated as conjunctions if a planet falls there. Orb 1.5 for direct midpoints, although this can be increased for luminaries. For planets making other hard aspects to the midpoint, use 1 degree orb - use 45,90 and 135 deg aspects.

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The guy in my example is emotionally abusive to his male friends, since the Sun is "masculine" and Mercury is neutral.

If a girl has Nessus conjunct her Sun but is more comfortable in her Moon sign, she might attract abusive/backstabber males.

Seems to me like Nessus was a backstabber more than anything else. He also sounds selfish, spiteful, and violent, with no loyalty to speak of. But his role in the myth mainly smacks of a backstabber.

posted December 29, 2011 11:57 AM              

I actually have Nessus rx conjunct my Sun-Mars midpoint (far), so I attract emotionally abusive guys who try to break me down. I get angry & abuse them back and the relationship is destroyed.

My Sun/Mars conjunction is in my 4th. I don't consider myself to have been emotionally abused while growing up.

posted February 05, 2012 06:14 AM              

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details the centaur’s involvement in the recent spate of sex scandals in may, from strauss-kahn and schwarzenegger to weiner. eric francis first pointed me toward nessus’ connection with inappropriate sexual responses or actions, as you also note, and i have found that to be consistently true.

strauss-kahn, accused of raping a housemaid at a NYC hotel, has sun conjunct nessus, and schwarzenegger, whose love child was just revealed, has sun square nessus. both these incidents came to light in may within days, with transit sun and nessus squared. weiner’s cybersex antics became public knowledge at the nessus retrograde station, with the transit sun just hitting his natal nessus, which also squares his natal sun. much more detail in the linked article.

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posted February 05, 2012 08:34 AM            

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Originally posted by Capriquarius:
Germane.
http://www.daykeeperjournal.com/2011/07/nessus-men-behaving-badly/

Summary:
details the centaur’s involvement in the recent spate of sex scandals in may, from strauss-kahn and schwarzenegger to weiner. eric francis first pointed me toward nessus’ connection with inappropriate sexual responses or actions, as you also note, and i have found that to be consistently true.

strauss-kahn, accused of raping a housemaid at a NYC hotel, has sun conjunct nessus, and schwarzenegger, whose love child was just revealed, has sun square nessus. both these incidents came to light in may within days, with transit sun and nessus squared. weiner’s cybersex antics became public knowledge at the nessus retrograde station, with the transit sun just hitting his natal nessus, which also squares his natal sun. much more detail in the linked article.

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posted February 09, 2012 09:40 AM              

Search Engine for LL http://www.google.com/cse/home?cx=008618649001241799762:gzvuymx7vjg

Nessus in houses http://www.linda-goodman.com/ubb/Forum28/HTML/000771.html

Nessus 7066

Thus the astrological Nessus represents a variety of themes: betrayed trust, poisonous jealousy, but chiefly inappropriate sexual actions, anything from outright rape to harassment at work. As such, Nessus often shows up prominently in the charts of sexual offenders or those whose sexual antics become a scandal or a point of public notice. In this day and age, things such as sexting can be included in Nessus’ bailiwick.

“There have been very few investigations into the astrological significance of Nessus. Owing to the fact that its own orbit connects those of Saturn and Pluto it is by analogy the centaur most closely connected with Plutonian themes such as power, guilt, revenge, repentance and redemption. No figure in the myth remains innocent: Not Heracles, who was fleeing because he had killed, not Nessos, because he tried to rape Heracles' wife, and not Deianeira whose jealousy led to the unintentional death of her husband. In this sense the message of the myth is to distance oneself from accusations of guilt. Unethical behaviour is not limited to others. No-one can absolve themselves completely. Whoever takes it upon themselves to judge ends up harming themselves. In order to be absolved of any guilt one must accept it and do penitence. Only then comes redemption” http://wiki.astro.com/astrowiki/en/Nessus

Nessus - the buck stops here.
“The 3rd Centaur to be discovered is one that seems to address issues to do with the abuse of power, and it too has ancestral implications. It seems that Nessus brings opportunities to understand and release deep patterns of helplessness, being taken advantage of, and being oppressed. This is particularly relevant for people raised in a culture where they are in a minority group. Nessus processes really do seem to bring to an end the unfathomable ties that bind us to people, places, and situations
Nessus activations correspond with times when things really do end, finish and transcend to another level, when release occurs and when the turning point is reached. This sometimes happens through an intensification of suffering. The end of falsely hopeful innocence is signalled by Nessus transits, and the opening of a deeper wisdom. Nessus sometimes correlates with itching and burning skin as occurs in instances of eczema, nettle rash and allergy for instance.” http://www.melaniereinhart.com/melanie/astrologyarticles/chiron-and-centaurs.php

posted December 01, 2014 08:00 PM            

I am a bit confused, I have Nessus square the sun/moon midpoint exactly. The midpoint is in 23degree Aqua in the 7th house and Nessus is 23 degree scorpio in the 4th house.
I've experienced many of the things described above but never abused someone. I'm wondering if the seventh house makes it more likely to experience it from others.