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Topic: Chiron opposite Vertex natal
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Fionapineapple
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posted March 19, 2018 09:22 PM
  
How would you interpret someone that has Vertex conjunct Mars in Scorpio (5th house) opposite Chiron in Taurus (11th house) in their natal chart?IP: Logged |
todd
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posted March 19, 2018 10:12 PM
incredibly "edgy", "quirky", living on the outlaw fringes of society with total confidence in their singular ,abrupt approach to life. a " I don't give a phuque what you think "type of personality.todd IP: Logged |
Fionapineapple
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posted March 20, 2018 05:46 PM
That I can see, but does this also mean that there is a pain (Chiron) when it comes to friends or making friends and that Mars on their Vertex is to change how they do things?
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todd
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posted April 26, 2018 07:15 PM
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Originally posted by Fionapineapple:
That I can see, but does this also mean that there is a pain (Chiron) when it comes to friends or making friends and that Mars on their Vertex is to change how they do things?
...maybe lol
hmmmm.......I don't know. this pattern usually defines a person as one you goes his own way. changing how they do things.... not so much. Though he might change if he is give a concrete example of how he could be more successful by changing himself.but generally hoping he will change is a waste of your time.
of course there might be other aspects that would lessen the shell created here.
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angel4845
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posted April 26, 2018 11:56 PM
Chiron is not always about pain, I' m in the process of posting an article on my views and experiences with Chiron. Just want to be informative as Chiron was a medicinal healer as well, Chiron has many positive characteristics, I hate that a lot of astrologers are misinterpreting chiron completely! anyways my opinion based on the aspects you've given... chiron conjunct the anti-vertex in taurus in the 11th house can suggest possibly a new outlook on materialism, self esteem, beauty, possessions, taurus like things involving chiron like subjects such as medicine, mentoring, injuries, advice, and/or healing others in groups, friends, technology, the internet, social media, public relations, networking, taking a whole new approach/views on these matters. It would help a lot to know what other asteroids/planets are also making aspect to this configuration, in my experience astrology has never really explained a definition in just 1 single aspect, i always look for grand crosses because it does paint a picture to the scenario in the person's life.anti-vertex is what they already imagine and contribute to there fate. as far as mars on the vertex goes i can definitely say there is transformation being brought to the person's life possibly during childhood, is this person creative by any chance? or very intense? its so hard for me to say without knowing all the aspects to this mars opposite chiron configuration. I have chiron in the 11th in leo and i always had such a hard time making friends early in my childhood but that changed dramatically as i started to surround myself with people that focus on there HEALTH! and people that are very much drawn to PAIN such as tattoos, enjoy talking about pain like subjects, are considered about pain in the world, considered on healing others especially friends, define themselves as PAIN! etc. which is very much Chiron if you think about it lol.
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todd
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posted April 28, 2018 07:28 PM
I totally agree ,there is too much about chiron and pain. as you mentioned the myth of chiron is quite enlightening. the centaur in the sign of Sagittarius is chiron. in addition to health he ruled astrology and magic and one must remember ,chiron also committed suicide.todd
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posted April 29, 2018 01:46 PM
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I totally agree ,there is too much about chiron and pain. as you mentioned the myth of chiron is quite enlightening. the centaur in the sign of Sagittarius is chiron. in addition to health he ruled astrology and magic and one must remember ,chiron also committed suicide.todd
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angel4845
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posted April 30, 2018 03:26 PM
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I totally agree ,there is too much about chiron and pain. as you mentioned the myth of chiron is quite enlightening. the centaur in the sign of Sagittarius is chiron. in addition to health he ruled astrology and magic and one must remember ,chiron also committed suicide.todd
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Fionapineapple
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posted May 01, 2018 05:57 PM
http:3/i261.photobucket.com/albums/ii55/fionapinapple/astronathanmichsynastry.gifI have this link here let me know if u can see it. I've post it before His Mars opposite Chiron on the vertex axis is also square his North Node/South Node also its making an aspect to his Capricorn Moon but I saw all these pretty close to my ascendant/des and IC/MC axis plus North Node/South Node conjunction synastry
I just couldn't let go yet I feel like I want to be there for his transformations
Its so intense.
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Fionapineapple
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posted May 01, 2018 06:02 PM
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Fionapineapple
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posted May 01, 2018 06:35 PM
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angel4845
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posted May 01, 2018 06:36 PM
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Fionapineapple
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posted May 01, 2018 07:13 PM
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todd
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posted May 01, 2018 08:13 PM
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angel4845
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posted May 02, 2018 06:01 PM
I can see it now. Before I can even talk about the synastry. First thing that catches my eye about your guy is if his TOB is correct I noticed that his 7th ruler which is Jupiter in Virgo conjunct his sun/Juno and widely conjunct Saturn, I do think this has influence but not super strongly is squaring his ASC/DESC AXIS. I noticed especially myself when the 7th ruler is squaring the ASC/DESC axis there is usually a conflict in the love life. This individual has to come to realize that not all there relationships will be perfect, this can be hard for the person who has there 7th ruler square there ascendant/descendant axis. For example, he finds a woman that matches everything he wants however later in the long run he realizes there’s a clash with this woman and his personality. Balance is always required for these people when it comes to relationships and understanding how to manage these conflicts with the woman and his personality. Im not entirely 100% sure but from my experience so far this is what I’ve come to realize with those that have the 7th ruler square the ASC/DESC AXIS. Conflict is bound to happen however if the person is mature enough they will learn to accept, manage and negotiate this with the person they decide to commit to. I will say more stuff but this is the first thing that caught my eye. It’s always better to analyze the Natals first Fiona so you can get an idea of who your getting involved with, what you can expect from this person etc. ------------------
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Fionapineapple
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posted May 02, 2018 06:13 PM
Thank u so much! I have analyzed and I could tell there was a conflict like how u described because he does have neptunian issues but this person I feel will take time to get to know. In person he's very hush hush loves to teach about different spiritual topics he loves philosophy but its just his emotional life as well relationships that are a tricky area that I wanted to understandIP: Logged |
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posted May 10, 2018 04:22 PM
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Fionapineapple
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posted May 10, 2018 07:53 PM
His Mars and astroid Lilith conjunct his Vertex which I felt intensely because its on my ascendant, BML and Pluto is a bit far but it rules my ascendant in Scorpio
..the power struggles are real lolIP: Logged |
astri
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posted December 24, 2018 11:59 AM
what about chiron square the vertex?IP: Logged |
todd
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posted December 27, 2018 06:40 PM
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Originally posted by astri:
what about chiron square the vertex?
i find that vertex squares are quite forceful.
they seem more predictable because one doesn't have as much of the karma/other worldly energy that can confuse.
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Fionapineapple
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posted December 28, 2018 04:48 PM
Todd, Explain a bit on the square? I'm not entirely sure what u meantIP: Logged |
todd
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posted December 28, 2018 07:48 PM
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Todd, Explain a bit on the square? I'm not entirely sure what u meant
the vertex is an axis. vertewx-anti vertex, or some call it vertex-east point axis. but it is a flow of energy.
when a planet isconjunctthe vertex, the planet can be overwhelmed by the vertex's sometimes other worldl;y/paranormal energies.
but when a planet is square the vertex,then usually the planet is energized without the possibility of being dragged into the unpredictable other worldly energy.
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Fionapineapple
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posted December 31, 2018 02:47 PM
What your thoughts on vertex axis square the north and south nodes?IP: Logged |
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