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Venus
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posted October 19, 2012 01:44 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Venus     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Apparently she's old news but i just discovered her recently. She can communicate, with ease, by using American Sign Language. so basically she can talk, she expresses herself better than a lot of humans i know...

she showed empathy on more than one occasion. and my mind was blown. and suddenly this sweet gorilla mattered to me, and i care about her. it's funny how we humans function. before she was just another gorilla, a species that i didn't particularly care for. but now when i saw her express her wish of having a babe (something she expresses many times) i was so touched. it's like the barrier we built between us and animals was lifted.

Imagine if we can communicate with all animals..

Here’s KOKO: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EWxCM6llL60 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CYD6KZsOjxw http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=480keuakN6c

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posted October 19, 2012 09:16 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for juniperb     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Koko`s story is wonderful and helps us see the chain of unity from human to the animal kingdom

Koko had a kitten named All Ball who died . A wonderful book was written about it, while it is a sad story , it is also loving and human/humane too.

Koko`s Kitten by Francine Patterson.
She also wrote Koko`s Story but it was from a more scholastic thought.

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posted October 19, 2012 08:17 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for PixieJane     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
A friend of mine told me his girlfriend used to date someone who worked with those gorillas and another gorilla was much more amazing. However, the truly wondrous one had been abused so had some serious mood swings and sometimes reacted poorly to large crowds so they feared the gorilla acting out as he sometimes did might cost them sympathy and so they instead showed Koko, less amazing but a lot more likely to inspire the warm fuzzies.

Oh! He also said she was working with Koko and trying to get him to use Sign to say that something was red, but he instead kept touching his wrist. After repeating this several times she realized she was wearing a red watch on the same wrist he was pointing to and she asked, "Do you mean the same color as my watch?" Koko then gave her an exasperated look that seemed to say, "Finally you get it, ditz."

There are a few scifi stories that have simians (chimps, gorillas, etc) who are able to take part in society by using technology to give them vocal cords and it does strike me as believable.

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posted October 19, 2012 09:47 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for juniperb     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Have you read Ismael by Daniel Quinn? Wonderful.

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posted October 20, 2012 10:33 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Randall     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Good to hear that she's still around.

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posted October 21, 2012 01:09 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Randall     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
There was a classic Seinfeld episode about Koko.

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posted October 21, 2012 03:27 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Lei_Kuei     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Ever see Congo the movie? The Gorilla Amy communicates using sign language that the gets turned into a computerized voice

This review is HILARIOUS!

Nostalgia Critic - Congo


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posted October 22, 2012 12:52 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Randall     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote

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posted October 25, 2012 09:08 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for juniperb     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by juniperb:
Have you read Ismael by Daniel Quinn? Wonderful.


Worth recommending again

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posted December 11, 2012 10:10 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Randall     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote

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posted December 11, 2012 10:20 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for juniperb     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
well, it is a wonderful and thought provoking read

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posted December 11, 2012 03:24 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Lexxigramer     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
quote:
Originally posted by juniperb:
Have you read Ismael by Daniel Quinn? Wonderful.


Oh yes indeed!
Wonderful!


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posted December 12, 2012 01:42 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Randall     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote

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posted December 27, 2012 01:33 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for juniperb     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
It was wonderful lexx... and surely gave me much to ponder.

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posted January 05, 2013 04:03 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Randall     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote

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posted March 04, 2013 01:53 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for juniperb     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Ever see Congo the movie

No I haven`t yet. Is it an old movie or relatively new?

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posted March 04, 2013 02:46 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Lexxigramer     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Congo had some cool things with the gorilla that could sign;
and I love Tim Curry;
but beyond that,
I personally found the 1995 movie a bit cheesy. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Congo_%28film%29

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posted March 05, 2013 01:11 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Randall     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Haven't seen it but heard it was quite good.

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