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CardinalT-Square
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posted January 17, 2020 06:50 AM
  
So, after all this effort posting threads and getting feedback about this woman I'm crushing over, wondering when the next time I'd see her again, it turns out, one of the girls I work at the same company with (not directly with, just same building) is actually 4 DAYS!!! Older than the one I've been posting about. This whole year since I started last Feb., I've been thinking, (Wouldn't it be awesome to see another girl that has similar energy to the one I'm crushing on) I find out, overhearing a conversation about this girl, that her birthday is so close to my crushes, and she happens to be the cutest of the bunch to boot😁 What a twist! So...Graham, Athenaia, Todd...and others, would you mind looking at the charts of me and this new girl and tell me what you see? I'll add links to the other threads about the other girl so it's easier to see the differences between the two. Thanks!Synastry:
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 Here's the links to charts of me and the first girl.
http://www.linda-goodman.com/ubb/Forum35/HTML/009764.html
http://www.linda-goodman.com/ubb/Forum35/HTML/009784.html Athenaia, looks like that Saturn/Pluto conjunction turned to be quite a bit more interesting than I thought😁😆 IP: Logged |
Randall
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posted January 18, 2020 11:05 AM
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Graham
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posted January 18, 2020 12:06 PM
Are not these two females actually very different? (For example, note how the Mars-Jupiter conjunction falls on the low-point of the 4th house in the later chart but on the Dsc in the earlier chart; that the later chart has interceptions, but the earlier chart does not; that the later chart has Venus at the balance-point of the 2nd house and the earlier chart has Moon at the balance-point of the 12th house; and that the centre circle of each chart contains a very different aspect-pattern-picture.)   IP: Logged |
CardinalT-Square
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posted January 20, 2020 05:18 PM
Can you tell me how they're different? How does having a "Thor's Hammer" with her Pisces Moon, our Leo Mercury/Venus conjunction, and my Pluto differ from the incomplete Cardinal Grand-Cross I have with the first girl? How does DW Moon conjunct Jupiter change things? What about how our houses line-up with this new girl vs. the first girl?IP: Logged |
Graham
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posted January 21, 2020 01:45 AM
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Can you tell me how they're different?
The fundamental difference between them is that the older female has her Moon at the balance point of the 12th house and the younger has her Venus at the balance point of the 2nd house.Planets at the balance point are "comfortable in their own skin" - so express themselves effortlessly ... whereas planets at the low point have to (and invariably do) "try hard to get themselves noticed". So ... the older/balanced-Moon female is comfortable with being a Pisces "woman"/mother-to-others, whereas the balanced-Venus is comfortable with being a Leo "girl"/attracting-the-attention-of-others.
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How does having a "Thor's Hammer" with her Pisces Moon, our Leo Mercury/Venus conjunction, and my Pluto differ from the incomplete Cardinal Grand-Cross I have with the first girl?
Pisces Moon makes a natal 165 aspect to the mid-point of Sun and Chiron, with that aspect creating a 24th harmonic triangle with natal Venus. ... USA Astrologer Noel Tyl described the 165 as the degree of obsession and Ricki Reeves (a graduate of Noel's Masters Program) states the following in her book entitled The Quindecile :-"quindeciles to the Moon tend to be less visible to the outsider and more ingrained in the individual's response when security needs are not met. The dynamics involved are much more subtle and hidden in the individual's personality. ... Frequently, the character of the aspecting planet (her Sun/Chiron) becomes the conscious focus of the obsession-compulsion. However, the true motivation and driving need for security comes from the position of the Moon and not the position of the planet that is making the quindecile aspect." ... (And, because the 24H aspect = "striving to enjoy" - and her balanced Moon is "comfortable in it's own skin", this motivation will feature strongly in her Venus-in-Leo/5th relationships.) So ... how is your natal 12th harmonic Mercury-Venus-Pluto-Neptune configuration likely to react to being activated by her natal 24H Moon-Venus-Sun/Chiron ... given that the 12H = "trying to enjoy"; the 24H = "striving/trying-hard to enjoy" and her Moon is fixated upon "serving by being a mother-to-others, driven by a Chiron in Leo/6th wound"? ... (And, can you see the potential for Thor's Hammer misunderstandings between the two of you?) [Note : I do not see the incomplete Grand Cross with you and the younger female. ... I see only a re-inforcing of the Libra-Capricorn square that is in both natal charts ... perhaps because I consider the Sun to be too wide for a synastry square.] IP: Logged |
CardinalT-Square
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posted January 21, 2020 05:25 AM
That would explain her motivation to be extra helpful (more so than other Virgo's I know), but would the "Reaction to her security needs not being met" contribute to her strong need for male attention? She came over to my area one day, I was talking to another guy co-worker, we came around the corner and she was in front of us looking for something, she said to us "If you guys ever need anything, don't hesitate to come up front and ask me." I just walked away thinking to myself "No! You just want attention, I don't have time for b****s like you!" The other guy fell for the bait and kept talking to her. Their is another guy that constantly walks with her and talks to her as well, but it appears that that's not enough attention for her. I always look the other way when she walks by me too, but I still want to give her the best f*****g ever though! I care about my job too much though, so I only want to interact with her outside of work, sometimes I'll see her at the convenience store before or after work, but I haven't made any moves just yet.IP: Logged |
Graham
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posted January 21, 2020 12:28 PM
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would the "Reaction to her security needs not being met" contribute to her strong need for male attention?
Yes. ... Might that be a potential "Thor's Hammer" problem?IP: Logged |
CardinalT-Square
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posted January 21, 2020 05:20 PM
For me, yes, but I don't know about the other's who either have nothing that early in Scorpio, or some other planet/luminary.How about the Composite/Davison charts? The Moon is in Cap. with the older girl whereas it's in Cancer with the younger girl. Plus the Ascendant now is in Gemini instead of Cancer, and the steliums are in 4th and 8th Houses instead of 2nd/3rd and 6th/7th Houses. The Davison now has that huge Cap. stelium in 8th/9th now instead of 2nd/3rd Houses like with the younger girl. What does all that add up too? IP: Logged |
Graham
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posted January 22, 2020 05:09 AM
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Originally posted by CardinalT-Square:
For me, yes, but I don't know about the other's who either have nothing that early in Scorpio, or some other planet/luminary.How about the Composite/Davison charts? The Moon is in Cap. with the older girl whereas it's in Cancer with the younger girl. Plus the Ascendant now is in Gemini instead of Cancer, and the steliums are in 4th and 8th Houses instead of 2nd/3rd and 6th/7th Houses. The Davison now has that huge Cap. stelium in 8th/9th now instead of 2nd/3rd Houses like with the younger girl. What does all that add up too?
Before trying to trying to get our heads around how these two females might interact in a relationship with you, we need to consider (via natal chart analyses) how each of them might be as an individual.For that, I ran a software program which lists only the very strong traits in a natal-chart-owner ... and this produced the following output/information :- 1) Both of these females are good learners; take risks; seek knowledge; desire harmony; enjoy glamour/romance; want to help others; are anxious to accomplish and can be overly concerned with trivialities. ... But the trait they share most strongly is swinging between the two extremes of being both animated and detached when interacting with another. (So, they will "blow hot and cold when interacting with you/anyone.) 2. The younger female has very good intuition; is affectionate; can express her anger; insists upon perfection; swings between being co-operative or wanting her own way and shares none of these traits with the older female. 3. The older female (but not the younger) is restless; independent; freedom-seeking; quick-to-act; dramatic; attention-seeking; open to change; fanatical; fights for principles; seeks excitement/adventure; communicates easily; confuses friendship with love; falls in love quickly and a keen seeker of perfection (but will not insist upon it).
So ... which of these two would be most suited to being in a relationship with you, CTS?
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Bismarck2
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posted January 22, 2020 05:14 AM
You should include asteroids/points like Black Moon Lilith, Valentine, Amor, Lust, Eros, Psyche, Osiris, Isis, Persephone, and Proserpina. Also, reading the synastry grid is easier than looking at the wheel, for future reference. IP: Logged |
CardinalT-Square
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posted January 22, 2020 07:12 AM
@GrahamWhat is CTS? If I get my way, I'll take both of them at the same time😁 @Bismarck2 I don't believe in asteroids, Jupiter and Mars just have to big of an influence IMO to allow any of those objects to work their magic, I don't even have Chiron shown. I would post the aspect grid, but short of taking a screenshot with my phone (which would be a blurry mess as I have unstable hands) I don't know how to convert a .pdf to a pic file. Do you have a program you like that you can recommend to me? Or some other method? IP: Logged |
Graham
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posted January 22, 2020 07:24 AM
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Originally posted by CardinalT-Square:
@GrahamWhat is CTS? If I get my way, I'll take both of them at the same time😁 @Bismarck2 I don't believe in asteroids, Jupiter and Mars just have to big of an influence IMO to allow any of those objects to work their magic, I don't even have Chiron shown. I would post the aspect grid, but short of taking a screenshot with my phone (which would be a blurry mess as I have unstable hands) I don't know how to convert a .pdf to a pic file. Do you have a program you like that you can recommend to me? Or some other method?
CTS = shorthand for Cardinal T-Square. (And, I get that these two females raise you up http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=t7tGUNVrqPs ) 
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posted January 27, 2020 11:36 AM
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posted January 27, 2020 12:58 PM
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Originally posted by CardinalT-Square:
@GrahamWhat is CTS? If I get my way, I'll take both of them at the same time😁 @Bismarck2 I don't believe in asteroids, Jupiter and Mars just have to big of an influence IMO to allow any of those objects to work their magic, I don't even have Chiron shown. I would post the aspect grid, but short of taking a screenshot with my phone (which would be a blurry mess as I have unstable hands) I don't know how to convert a .pdf to a pic file. Do you have a program you like that you can recommend to me? Or some other method?
If you use firefox, I'd recommend using an add-on called 'lightshot.' It allows you to take screenshots. IP: Logged |
CardinalT-Square
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posted January 28, 2020 07:13 PM
Well it turns out my phone already has that feature built-in Bismarck, I got the screenshots ready to upload, but now, as luck would have it, it turns out imgur is no longer working for me, anyone else have an alternative?IP: Logged |
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posted January 29, 2020 04:51 AM
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Originally posted by CardinalT-Square:
Well it turns out my phone already has that feature built-in Bismarck, I got the screenshots ready to upload, but now, as luck would have it, it turns out imgur is no longer working for me, anyone else have an alternative?
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posted January 29, 2020 04:16 PM
Thanks Graham!Here's the Aspect Grid with me and the older girl:  With me and the younger girl:  IP: Logged |
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posted February 01, 2020 09:13 AM
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