posted December 30, 2018 05:51 PM            

composite:

posted January 02, 2019 03:02 AM            

But anyways it looks super sexual, moon conjunct mars in synasty and composite.

Doesn’t look like much substance or anything that’s going to last long term. So don’t throw away your other relationship if it’s good and stable/long lasting. This is just lust/infatuation. Don’t do anything stupid.

posted January 02, 2019 03:43 AM            

But the Jupiter in the 7th composite I immediately thought of a learning experience- a guru or teacher/student relationship.

Something very important to learn here- and with Lilith in the first like that it might be a very strong attraction but also very chaotic in intensity/energy.

You've got Jupiter/Pluto conjunction which is huuuuuuuge energy-- but the other person has their Pluto in retrograde, so all that will be felt subconsciously ... It could be that you end up more aware of what's being felt.

posted January 02, 2019 05:37 AM            

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Originally posted by Selenite:
help... todd, hypatia, anyone.
don't know his birth time
never had an affair before this, yes i hate myself, input much appreciated.

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Since you don't know his birth time then I shall ignore house placements... I noticed those Uranus squares in synastry which shows an electrifying attraction + you have Sun-Mars, Moon-Mars, Pluto-Mars that are drawing you in sexually. However, Uranus hard aspects are infamous for being unstable. Here you have it squaring Moon/Venus/Mars and semisquare Sun/Mercury plus you said this is an affair which only adds to the instability. In Composite Uranus again forms hard aspects to Sun/Venus/Mars. Not encouraging when you see the repeated theme.

Moon trine Moon can feel very nice but since you don't know his birth time, we cannot be sure if there's really a trine. But at least we know you have compatible Moons. However, the Venus aspects in your synastry are all in hard aspects - opposing Sun/Mercury, square Uranus, quincunx Neptune... I know Venus hard aspects can create attraction but IMO you need some harmonious ones as well for love to flourish comfortably.

In Composite your Saturn/Neptune/Uranus/Pluto are all forming hard aspects to inner planets. Even with the Jupiter there, I still see a risk of serious friction and instability. But you have the Pluto squares which means it's gonna be hard to let go of this relationship because the compulsion to be together is so great. This is what I've seen in the relationships involving Pluto squares... The way I see it... Saturn/Neptune/Uranus will cause you to break off... Pluto will bring you back... and the pattern repeats until one party cuts it off entirely.

posted January 03, 2019 03:33 PM            

about instability: the thing is, I'm not sure if I even want stability, in fact i'm craving something highly unconventional and unstable and new and different.

i just know it's not right to stay in my relationship if i want this guy in my life because i don't think it's possible for us to be just friends.

the moon/mars conjunction stands out to me because I have a moon-neptune square natally and he has a mars-neptune square, so our conjunction is square neptune and i've heard this type of thing is like a funnel for each individual's neptune issues. so i'm projecting all my dreams and fantasies onto him from an emotional standpoint and he's doing the same from a mars standpoint. if that makes sense.

posted January 04, 2019 05:59 AM            

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Originally posted by Selenite:
@Hikaru
you're right, the compulsion to be together is overwhelming and extremely irrational. we seem to be obsessed with each other and want to keep each other in our lives regardless of what happens, no strings attached.

about instability: the thing is, I'm not sure if I even want stability, in fact i'm craving something highly unconventional and unstable and new and different.

i just know it's not right to stay in my relationship if i want this guy in my life because i don't think it's possible for us to be just friends.

the moon/mars conjunction stands out to me because I have a moon-neptune square natally and he has a mars-neptune square, so our conjunction is square neptune and i've heard this type of thing is like a funnel for each individual's neptune issues. so i'm projecting all my dreams and fantasies onto him from an emotional standpoint and he's doing the same from a mars standpoint. if that makes sense.

and i don't even know how to deal with those yods. Venus-Mars/Lilith/Moon-Uranus/Neptune is like nothing i've seen or experienced before. And Mars-Lilith/Pluto/Uranus looks insane, don't know what it means. (I know some of the Mars-BML-Moon and Uranus-Neptune conjunctions are too wide to be part of the yods but I see them as representative of one energy).

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I totally understand the Pluto compulsion because I'm living it. Yes, the desire to keep each other in our lives is extremely strong...for me, tearing away from him is like tearing my heart out. I bled.

You want something unstable?? This is the first time someone says that, haha. Perhaps what's happening is this relationship is giving you that adrenaline rush that excites you...plus those Pluto squares draw you in uncontrollably because it's sooo irresistible... but soon, if and when you become emotionally involved, you will want some kind of constancy, at least you will wanna know where you stand with this person.

Sounds like you already have a significant other in your life? And what's wrong with that relationship? My caution is don't get swept away by Uranus because it's not long lasting.

Yes, I understand Neptune squares as I have Mars square Neptune and Venus opp Neptune natally. We tend to project our ideal image onto our partners and make us confused over love/sex.

posted January 04, 2019 05:37 PM            

bluntly.....cease and desist......
this composite will only bring emotional despondency in the long run.

okay ,I get the intense sexual/emotional connection with the T-square of pluto square to the venus/sun opposition. but the problem here is that Pluto rarely is interested in a deeper emotional intimacy after sex. pluto is more inclined to roll over and pull the covers around him. Invariably, after the assumed emotional intimacy does not form after repeated sexual encounters, the sexual urge declines or ceases all together in the partner who is expecting love. for the other,this is just selfish therapeutic sex and nothing more.

the Saturn/moon square implies that there is a block or distance when emotional intmcy is desired. this tends to bring despondency and doubts.

the Uranus/Neptune square the node is the real deal breaker. for one thing this gives a excruciating psychic connection. it brings dream sand fantastic goals together.
but it is more than likely that these promises and dreams will never come to fruition. The problem is that the Saturn/moon aspect is pone to despondency and the Uranus node is prone to electrical attraction.....but the product is a up and down relationship. nothing can be built on a relationship that is always placing you at emotional extremes.
pluto's central position shows there will be no compromises and hence a "normal" relationship can not develop.

I realize that these precautions will not be taken by you because mars conjunct to Lilith and opposed to Jupiter and trine to the sun and the node and sextile to venus.
this gives an incredible feeling that commitment and marriage are in the cards with him.
but the Saturn/pluto midpoint is opposed to mars and conjunct to Jupiter which really p-laces a damper on the possibility of commitment...once again because there is too much selfishness and at times distant and cold isolation...even inn the middle of seemingly consolidating activities.

in addition mars is square to chiron which is a marker of a quirky personality. often this shows someone who leads an egdy life or who likes to always be on the extremes.
in addition the midpoint is opposed to the sun/Uranus midpoint which usually is a sign of instability.\

to me this looks like no matter how much you accommodate him, at one point he is going to cast dispersion on you as reasons why the relationship will not work out.

again with mars sextile to venus and the midpoint opposed to Uranus and square the node, the sexual/emotional attraction is totally electrical and off the intensity scale..... but these heights will only serve to make your emotional fall tragic...as Uranus affairs no matter how intense are not stable and once he is satiated of sex, he will call it off.
of course I don't expect you to heed my warnings because the transiting nodal axis is moving thru the mars/venus opposition to Uranus/Neptune and square the node, right now. so you are in the throes of heavenly passion and unable to see the darkness underlying his selfishness.

but if you change everything about yourself
for him, the you are placing your long term emotional stability at risk.

just hold your horses until you start to see the broken dreams and promises begin to arise.

(isn't selenite the metal that hans solo was encased in the 2/3 "star wars")

todd

posted January 04, 2019 05:41 PM            

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Originally posted by todd:
hi selenite

bluntly.....cease and desist......
this composite will only bring emotional despondency in the long run.

okay ,I get the intense sexual/emotional connection with the T-square of pluto square to the venus/sun opposition. but the problem here is that Pluto rarely is interested in a deeper emotional intimacy after sex. pluto is more inclined to roll over and pull the covers around him. Invariably, after the assumed emotional intimacy does not form after repeated sexual encounters, the sexual urge declines or ceases all together in the partner who is expecting love. for the other,this is just selfish therapeutic sex and nothing more.

the Saturn/moon square implies that there is a block or distance when emotional intmcy is desired. this tends to bring despondency and doubts.

the Uranus/Neptune square the node is the real deal breaker. for one thing this gives a excruciating psychic connection. it brings dream sand fantastic goals together.
but it is more than likely that these promises and dreams will never come to fruition. The problem is that the Saturn/moon aspect is pone to despondency and the Uranus node is prone to electrical attraction.....but the product is a up and down relationship. nothing can be built on a relationship that is always placing you at emotional extremes.
pluto's central position shows there will be no compromises and hence a "normal" relationship can not develop.

I realize that these precautions will not be taken by you because mars conjunct to Lilith and opposed to Jupiter and trine to the sun and the node and sextile to venus.
this gives an incredible feeling that commitment and marriage are in the cards with him.
but the Saturn/pluto midpoint is opposed to mars and conjunct to Jupiter which really p-laces a damper on the possibility of commitment...once again because there is too much selfishness and at times distant and cold isolation...even inn the middle of seemingly consolidating activities.

in addition mars is square to chiron which is a marker of a quirky personality. often this shows someone who leads an egdy life or who likes to always be on the extremes.
in addition the midpoint is opposed to the sun/Uranus midpoint which usually is a sign of instability.\

to me this looks like no matter how much you accommodate him, at one point he is going to cast dispersion on you as reasons why the relationship will not work out.

again with mars sextile to venus and the midpoint opposed to Uranus and square the node, the sexual/emotional attraction is totally electrical and off the intensity scale..... but these heights will only serve to make your emotional fall tragic...as Uranus affairs no matter how intense are not stable and once he is satiated of sex, he will call it off.
of course I don't expect you to heed my warnings because the transiting nodal axis is moving thru the mars/venus opposition to Uranus/Neptune and square the node, right now. so you are in the throes of heavenly passion and unable to see the darkness underlying his selfishness.

but if you change everything about yourself
for him, the you are placing your long term emotional stability at risk.

just hold your horses until you start to see the broken dreams and promises begin to arise.

(isn't selenite the metal that hans solo was encased in the 2/3 "star wars")

todd

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posted January 04, 2019 07:30 PM            

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Originally posted by Dumuzi:
carbonite was star wars, selenite is a stone

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ohhh thanks for the correction... carbonite oh yeah..
todd

posted January 04, 2019 08:54 PM            

everything you said makes sense, i feel all of it.

posted January 04, 2019 11:51 PM            

davison:

posted January 05, 2019 01:55 AM            

He matches your 7th pretty well though, so I can see why you’re in a relationship with him and wanting to commit to him in the first place. You probably really like him as a person but just don’t feel that romantic passion or attraction exciting 5th house feelings but more of a companionable and affectionate vibe like the 7th.
I think his lack of 5th house stimulation plus your venus not making any aspects to his personal planets is why you strayed.
You also have very incompatible charts actually, you have a ton of fire, he is lacking the fire element. Same with his strong earth, you’re lacking earth.
You have very incompatible moon signs, Venus signs, sun signs etc. A lot of your personal planets don’t match very well and that could cause a definite problem down the line. You will feel less in sync and more of a forced connection that isn’t natural and effortless and lack of understanding I feel since you two are so fundementally different.

I don’t think the relationship with your current guy is going to last tbh, regardless of this new guy. But I don’t think this other guy is truly for you either.

posted January 05, 2019 01:39 PM            

i often develop crushes on people; that's just who i am. but i usually keep contact to a minimum with those people. i don't know how i let myself do this with this other guy. i think the yods point to that uncontrollable feeling.

honestly i thought we were really compatible because of our chart mirroring, we both have grand trines with the same planets in the same houses (sun/merc in 5th, mars in 1st, moon in 9th -- well his is basically in the 9th). we both have NN in the 4th. and lots of other things...
plus i'm always attracted to earthy types, my draconic is actually the same placements as my boyfriend's and his is almost the same as mine.

posted January 05, 2019 05:26 PM            

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Originally posted by Selenite:
wow I didn't expect you to say any of that. to me it's the most healthy and functioning relationship i've ever been in, but obviously there are some issues. i never in a million years thought i'd cheat and i've often felt like i want to be with him for the rest of my life, and i don't even like that idea. lol

i often develop crushes on people; that's just who i am. but i usually keep contact to a minimum with those people. i don't know how i let myself do this with this other guy. i think the yods point to that uncontrollable feeling.

honestly i thought we were really compatible because of our chart mirroring, we both have grand trines with the same planets in the same houses (sun/merc in 5th, mars in 1st, moon in 9th -- well his is basically in the 9th). we both have NN in the 4th. and lots of other things...
plus i'm always attracted to earthy types, my draconic is actually the same placements as my boyfriend's and his is almost the same as mine.

honestly everything was 1000% fine before i did this. i guess i'm just a flighty b*tch

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as I posted,

"again with mars sextile to venus and the midpoint opposed to Uranus and square the node, the sexual/emotional attraction is totally electrical and off the intensity scale..... but these heights will only serve to make your emotional fall tragic...as Uranus affairs no matter how intense are not stable and once he is satiated of sex, he will call it off.
of course I don't expect you to heed my warnings because the transiting nodal axis is moving thru the mars/venus opposition to Uranus/Neptune and square the node, right now. so you are in the throes of heavenly passion and unable to see the darkness underlying his selfishness."

I really can't emphasize enough how magical the nodal energy makes emotional/physical/sexual attraction.
it is as if you and he live in a reality separate from everyone else. Uranus bring astral dreams together and Neptune brings feelings of transcendent love.it is as if life swirls around the two of you.usually your friends can even see or feel the special forces tha have drawn you together.
so I am not trying to negate the magic yyou feel but I am responding to your saying,

"met someone else & seriously considering changing everything for them?

this electric/etheric connection will continue thru February and I can see the impulse for commitment or marriage to become stronger later this month from the 11th to 20th as the south node conjuncts the Jupiter/sun midpoint.

but when the south node transits the composite Neptune from march 13th to 17th,the dreams and promises you have made to each other may start to fray.

you posted: "met someone else & seriously considering changing everything for them? "

just don't make any irrevocable changes til march is over.

another suggestion....take this relationship as a amazing experience that it is, but don'tconcern yourself with duration or how to extend this "forever".

a last question... why do you have to change everything about your life? is he under this same condition ?

best fortune and love
todd

posted March 21, 2019 12:46 AM            

idk i'm still in love with him, it's really crazy and irrational... i just feel like we really get each other and there have been no broken promises or dreams cuz we're just not those kinds of people...

we think we got his birthtime so this would be the updated synastry / composite, and it feels like it makes sense. what do u alll think, if u don't mind? i'm completely obsessed but being a scorp venus it's not too hard for that to happen..

and there are some insane parallels such as:
first of all my moon is parallel his sun and moon
and my venus is contraparallel his sun and moon
regardless of his ASC
my sun/vertex/nessus are parallel his MC. my ceres contraparallel all that.
his eros and BML are parallel my mars/ASC/MC.
his venus is contraparallel my eros and they're both out of bounds.
my psyche contraparallels his eros

posted March 21, 2019 01:18 AM            

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Originally posted by todd:

another suggestion....take this relationship as a amazing experience that it is, but don'tconcern yourself with duration or how to extend this "forever".

a last question... why do you have to change everything about your life? is he under this same condition ?

best fortune and love
todd

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posted March 21, 2019 06:08 PM            

moon square to Saturn is ten to be problematic as it shows emotional hesitation.
though the midpoint of the square and psyche are conjunct the south node which can indicate a" romantic" feeling for fidelity, though psyche is an inspiration rather than a full blown impulse.

Uranus square the node is also very problematic especially with the strong Saturn/moon aspect.uranus/node is very unstable.. intense ,yes , but of the nature of electric infatuation of a affair.

when both Uranus and Saturn are strong such as this composite, there is I intrinsic push and pull which does allow for a normalization of feeling necessary to establish the routine patterns and compromises of a committed relationships.

on top of these aspects of uncertainty, there is a T-square of sun opposed to Venus ,square to the Pluto/nessus conjunction.
this is extremely problematic because the sexual/emotional dynamics between you are not "normal". that is the unconscious/subconscious are playing a big role in this relationship . it as if there are insinuations of union and intimacy, but after sexual union something intervenes and no deeper intimacy is reached. so the promise of deeper intimacy that sexuality usually brings is always stunted...

with pluto and nessus involved,it difficult to not see this as a form of emotional abuse.....needing a bit more but never getting closer to satisfaction.

with juno conjunct to Neptune and square to psyche, there I a very spiritual love, but it might also just be self delusion that any commitment will result from this .relationship .

but you can draw your own conclusions right now to what is and what is not possible because the south node formed a station over your Neptune from the 13th to 18th of march and will be conjunction your juno on the 22nd of march(tomorrow).

so I assume you have been having many conflicting feeling and thoughts about the relationship. And as juno is being transited ,this time period would be one to formalize the relationship or at least get a more secure feeling about it.

the south node on Neptune can be very psychic and you might have be given visions or deep thoughts about the relationship.
but the south node can also inundate you with negative energy.

I still can not see this becoming a committed relationship and am still of the mind that it is an exceptional experience but not something you will be able to build on, except for the experience and knowledge you are gaining about yourself.

todd

posted March 23, 2019 06:58 PM            

the t-square of pluto/sun/venus is intriguing to me because we’re not in a committed reltaionship, besides starting a band together from across the country, lol, which is definitely an ‘unstable relationship.’ but we keep coming back together, and don’t put pressure on each other for anything more, for obvious reasons. i just feel so ‘in tune’ with him, probably our parallels and his leo moon in my 12th conjunct my asc.
and the sexual attraction is unlike anything i’ve ever experienced
sex it’s very important to me (maybe my scorpio venus / nn / IC conjunction) and he gets me on a deep level there. ((also i think the pluto/nessus is channeled sexually with the sextile of eros/chiron))

i have so many conflicting feelings but i need / want to stay where i’m at right now (across the country), and i think our physical distance is literally the only thing keeping everything stable right now. like, i could just go move back home and try it with him, but obviously i wouldn’t throw away a 4 year relationship with someone i love deeply for that, and i wouldn’t expect commitment and put that kind of pressure on him

i think the pluto/nessus and ‘needing more but never getting closer’ and the saturn/moon square is because i’m literally across the country and in a relationship. but i’m curious, if, in a year we move to the same place together, this dynamic would be transcended? or would it be channeled into a different ‘obstacle,’ because it’s part of our composite? if anything, i don’t care if we’re in a committed romantic relationship, but we are making music together and it would be cool if he could just be in my life as someone committed to making art with me. is that possible? (people tend to flake on me in that regard. lol)

and, no pressure to answer, but what do you think of my current relationship? the composite with the grand trine between sun-mercury/moon/mars and kite to uranus/neptune? it’s been almost 4 years and we’ve had plenty of ups and downs but it’s mostly bliss… until this other dude came along and destroyed my whole world. (being dramatic lol)

if anything, i've learned that monogamy is really not my thing