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Topic: Homosexuality
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Sineya
Knowflake Posts: 34
From: Sterling, Colorado, USA
Registered: Jul 2002
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posted August 30, 2002 12:25 AM
 
A friend of mine who is a lesbian has been getting worried about the whole Twin Self concept and Masculin Feminine energy emphasis in Linda's works and I was hoping you all could help me figure out whether or not homosexuality is wrong according to Universal Law and how it affects Twin Soul's and Twin Self's
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StarLover33
Knowflake Posts: 3061
From: King Arthur's Camelot
Registered: Jun 2002
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posted August 30, 2002 04:50 PM
A Woman and a Man have the same amount of masculine and feminine energies (not biologically!)But the Soul is higher then the material body it doesn't care about who it loves male/female it just loves! Is that wrong?-StarLover   IP: Logged |
Sineya
Knowflake Posts: 34
From: Sterling, Colorado, USA
Registered: Jul 2002
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posted August 30, 2002 06:42 PM
That's what a thought also. I was just hopint there were more people out there who got tham message from Linda as well. Thanks. ------------------
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QueenofSheeba
Knowflake Posts: 1043
From: California
Registered: Feb 2003
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posted August 31, 2002 06:14 PM
The emphasis on man-woman relationships in astrology books really bothers me.Guess they are just catering to the majority.Anyway...I know several gays,and they are very nice people,and if you're a homophobe,wake up and stop being a bigot with the mind-width of a thumbnail.I don't like the Boyscouts.------------------
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Elohim
Knowflake Posts: 509
From: the same Source as You.
Registered: Jan 2002
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posted September 04, 2002 11:02 AM
After reading about people's reincarnation experiences, it seems that the a soul does not always have the same gender in all its lives. For example, in a Twin S-elves pair, the feminine (the "I") Higher S-elf may choose to experience most of its lives as a woman, but may also choose to have a few experiences of being a Man, to complete her understanding. Often, in order to completely understand something, we need to experience its polar opposite too. (e.g., Light~Dark, Good~Evil, Competition~Synergy and so on.)
 So, it is entirely possible that in one of the incarnations, both of the Higher S-elves may have chosen the same gender for their souls' experiences. So, yes, even a homosexual couple may be made up of Twin S-elves. I am not sure whether this is possible when the two s-elves meet for the last time as individuals, before their permanent union. Probably in such a lifetime, they need to experess thems-elves fully as they have become over the various lifetimes, that is, the sum of all their knowing and growing things over thousands of years. So in my opinion, in the lifetime which is to be their last experience of being separated from their missing half, the feminine part of the pair is a Woman, while the masculine part is the Man. If it is not the final time though, it is possible for Twin S-elves to be of the same sex.  ------------------
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aquamoon
Knowflake Posts: 883
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Registered: Apr 2002
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posted September 04, 2002 12:52 PM
Hey Elohim!! Good to see you!
You have just said perfectly what I have been trying to put into words and couldn't.
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spin-boson
Knowflake Posts: 72
From: stillwater,oklahoma-usa
Registered: May 2002
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posted September 05, 2002 03:22 AM
Linda Goodman writes in star signs--That anything other is WRONG and don't pretend you don't know WHY.
Pediphilles use the same explanation as homosexuals-example-I was just born this way, I can't help it I just love young little things.
I have homosexual friends and they all derive pleasure from these unions, BUT-there is no connection to God in these unions.To b walk a life with the lord, you must believe in his word.and faith come through hearing his word. I'm sure the plesure your homosexual friend feels with one of the same sex is just pleasure mental and physical.But it is not love for God is love. The bible is not a total lie and I sencerely pray that all of you that read this realize your most important relationship is with the lord god.
I don't mean to affend anyone,but how you think becomes your reality,and for those who are not in with jesus than your not in with linda goodmans teachings.Her gift to the world was love and of course like I already said God is love. HIs word the truth.
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aquamoon
Knowflake Posts: 883
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Registered: Apr 2002
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posted September 05, 2002 06:09 AM
Hi Spin-boson!
I remember the bit in Star Signs that you are talking about but I always thought she was referring to casual encounters and group stuff more than anything else. Sex that has very little to do with love - that's how I'd put it . But then, I guess that bit is vague enough to be open to interpretation.
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Sineya
Knowflake Posts: 34
From: Sterling, Colorado, USA
Registered: Jul 2002
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posted September 05, 2002 04:51 PM
I agree that a lot of homosexual relationships are based purely on physical pleasure. So are the majority of straight relationships. I also believe that the blending of male and female energies surpasses the human form and is dealt with and the Soul level. If a feminine soul and a male sould both happen to be in the bodies of men there is no reason why their union should be considered un natural. Any union that is a result of Love and Light is good and pure. Pedophiles have a much higher rate of sexual abuse as children than homosexuals do. To me that says that Pedophiles are created from circumstances in early childhood whereas homosexuals can be created that way but aren't necessarily. I was thinking about this last night also and remembered Linda talking about the little kids who looked like they were 100 years old at the age of twelve. Linda said this kids were an example to show us that age is an illusion. It got me thinking about how the Aquarian Age is a time to blend the masculine and feminine energies into a perfect balance and how homosexuals tend to display an equal amount of traits from both sexes. It got me thinking that homosexuals could be an example of how the two energies can be combined as one. I also remembered that there are homosexual animals in Nature. If Mother Nature was trying to show us something she'd do it on all levels, there are no cases of Pedophile animals. I think that homosexuality is here to teach us a lesson of balance and tolerance. There are many physical differences in homosexuals and heterosexuals that also help prove this. The homosexual male's brain has a slightls smaller "male" side and a slightly bigger "female" side than heterosexual males. The opposite holds true for homosexual women. This is another example of balance, the sides of the brain are more equal in size in homosexuals, showing the the two genders are more balanced in that person's personality. IP: Logged |
Carlo
Knowflake Posts: 1612
From: Second America
Registered: Nov 2000
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posted November 30, 2002 10:42 AM
 bi bi! IP: Logged |
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Knowflake Posts: 68
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Registered: Dec 2002
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posted December 03, 2002 10:42 AM
Actually, I've been wondering for a long time how come the subject of homosexuality is mentioned so scarecely in Linda's books. Would she have given any thoughts on this subject when she wrote Love Signs?Also, does anyone know whether Christianity is the onlyreligion that condemns homosexuality? later,
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Carlo
Knowflake Posts: 1612
From: Second America
Registered: Nov 2000
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posted December 08, 2002 12:23 AM
The only organized religion I know of that does not condemn homosexuality is Unitarian Universalism. All the others are homophobes.BB,
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Randall
Webmaster Posts: 25287
From: Columbus, GA USA
Registered: Nov 2000
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posted December 08, 2002 01:12 AM
The Episcopal Church ordains homosexual ministers. ------------------
"Never mentally imagine for another that which you would not want to experience for yourself, since the mental image you send out inevitably comes back to you." Rebecca Clark IP: Logged |
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Knowflake Posts: 68
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Registered: Dec 2002
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posted December 08, 2002 04:00 AM
Really, Carlo? What about Buddhism and Paganism? I dont' know much about paganism and homosexuality is seldom mentioned in Buddhism, but they don't seem to condemn it in anyway... any more info?Thx, Randall. Are the minsters open about thier being gay though? And how does the episcopal church reconcile the appointment with the condemnations in the bible? IP: Logged |
Carlo
Knowflake Posts: 1612
From: Second America
Registered: Nov 2000
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posted December 08, 2002 11:33 AM
Buddhism & Paganism are not organized religions. They do not discriminate against gay people. I know many gay Pagans, there are more of them than straight Pagans.BB,
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Randall
Webmaster Posts: 25287
From: Columbus, GA USA
Registered: Nov 2000
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posted December 08, 2002 12:19 PM
Yes, they are openly gay. They also ordain women. I'm not sure how they justify it (in light of the narrow confines of the Bible). I had a conversation with a Member who said that the early Christian church taught reincarnation (for over 500 years after Christ's death). This is true, of course, but I am surprised to hear traditional Christians admit to it.  ------------------
"Never mentally imagine for another that which you would not want to experience for yourself, since the mental image you send out inevitably comes back to you." Rebecca Clark IP: Logged |
QueenofSheeba
Knowflake Posts: 1043
From: California
Registered: Feb 2003
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posted December 08, 2002 07:39 PM
A little off the subject: I wonder why we are so fixed on soul-mate relationships. I think it's possible to be happy with someone who's not your soul- mate, even if there's no karmic future with him/ her. I agree that in the final incarnation, it would be a man- woman relationship. The Presbyterian church ordains women, and they are considering the ordination of gays. There are the conservative Presbyteries and the liberals, and they are strongly divided. ------------------
No longer mourn for me when I am dead
Than you shall hear the surly sudden bell
Give warning to the world that I am fled
From this vile world, with vilest worms to dwell.
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Foxxy
Knowflake Posts: 273
From: Toronto
Registered: Aug 2002
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posted December 08, 2002 09:58 PM
Buddhism is an organized religion with several sects. Other than teh eightfold path and the seven steps to enlightenment I am not familiar with any buddhist doctrines however nothing I have read sems to forbid same sex relationships. *shrug* que sera sera. IP: Logged |
Mr Mediocre
Knowflake Posts: 76
From: Australia
Registered: Dec 2002
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posted December 09, 2002 04:00 AM
Who can say what God originally intended?...the church(es) tends to cover up or relocate errant priests...and given that approx. 10% of the population is homosexual, just think if how bad the world overpopulation problem would be NOW if that 10% had all reproduced at the same rate as the other 90% over the millenia?and in reply to an above post by Sineya...Bonobo monkeys regularly indulge in pedophilic activities. BUT this seems to have evolved as a normal part of their social comfort zone, however, and IS NO EXCUSE for humans to do the same. Sex between consenting ADULTS of whatever gender, I would think is fine in the eyes of the Creator (whoever he or she may be). As a society we allow consenting adults to beat the living daylights out of each other in a ring....so why not let them indulge in non-violent entertainment in the privacy of their abodes? Spread the love, I say. my 2 cents  Luv to you all (except rednecks, who I still have hope for, however misguided they may be...never too late to change you know) Andrew IP: Logged |
Carlo
Knowflake Posts: 1612
From: Second America
Registered: Nov 2000
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posted December 09, 2002 10:57 AM
nope, sry Foxxy, Buddhism is not an organized religion...temples and sects do not necessarily an organized religion make. Organized religion has centralized hierarchy...Paganism and Buddhism do not, and never will.I say we beat the living daylights out of the pedophile priests in the ring...wait, I take that back, have mercy on their poor souls...they danced, they will def pay the fiddler, like anyone else... BB,
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proxieme
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posted December 09, 2002 11:24 AM
Mr Mediocre -
HEY! Ease of the 'necks!
They's my family!
 Elohim -
After reading about people's reincarnation experiences, it seems that the a soul does not always have the same gender in all its lives.
Yeah - I'm not saying this to be crude or purposely outlandish, but I see how it may be construed that way - but I see that. I think this is my 1st female incarnation in a while; I'm 22, and just (barely) getting used to these kinds of dimensions. As far as homosexuality goes (so I can say that I stayed at least minimally on topic):
Well, hell, I don't have any deep insight on this. I guess...um, I guess that as far as I'm concerned people are people are people - why should anything but the care and concern with which they treat others make any difference in the way they are regarded?
If 2 people who are "Twin Souls" are the same sex and both aren't gay/lesbian, I guess they can go w/ some other connection - things'll work out during another incarnation.
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108
Knowflake Posts: 68
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Registered: Dec 2002
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posted December 09, 2002 11:56 AM
Carlo, what you said about gay pagans outnumbering straights!! OMG!! That's shocking! I wonder if there's any karmic/cosmic implications here...
Did you get my latest email, by the way?Prox, what you said about twin souls has always been a question for me. Can a gay couple more or lesss progress the same way spiritually a straight couple does?? If not,.. then... how does that work?? Any ideas, fellow knowflakes? Azelzion, if you're reading this, did Linda ever say anything on the subject of gays? 108 ------------------
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theFajita
Knowflake Posts: 2007
From: Boca Raton, FL USA
Registered: Sep 2002
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posted December 10, 2002 12:12 AM
Well, let's not imitate the monkeys OK!
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Mr Mediocre
Knowflake Posts: 76
From: Australia
Registered: Dec 2002
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posted December 10, 2002 12:28 AM
Oops! Sorry Proxieme! Luv to the Rednecks too! I think I went and over-generalised - I may be misconstruing the term to mean gun-toting people who are intolerant of most/all alternative lifestyles and actively demonstrate this intolerance, sometimes violently. Please....no offence was intended!  brothers and sisters Andrew IP: Logged |
proxieme
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posted December 10, 2002 09:44 AM
Ah, common mistake, common mistake - Rednecks can simply be (often purposely) fashion-impared people with interesting accent variations living in the southern United States. You, friend, got them confused with Active Bigots; and, granted, there can sometimes be a bit of an overlap (but it's in no way enough of a constant to be considered a rule), and there're plenty of A.B.s scattered among the rest of the country and the world - found with variations, for instance (but in no way limited to), throughout the American Northeast (I've met no bigger bigots than some New Englanders) as well as much of Africa (esp. Central), Europe (historically, but there're plenty left), Asia (ohmygod, there's somekindacentricism in some parts), and the Middle East (with a few daily giving new meaning to "jihad"). And, as always, MM, half of what I say is tongue-in-cheek, so no worries.
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