posted December 07, 2002 01:58 PM              

Jakie

posted December 09, 2002 03:57 AM              

Bizemont's analyzing the planets, but only retrograde, in sign and houses, saying that retrograde planets can show a blockade in the destiny of a person. Since the outer planets very often are retro in autumn and winter, people born under this influence might share the karma of a group. She also writes that well-aspected retrograd planets show that the negative traits of the planets are not very heavy foundated in the native, the native is getting a second chance this life to straighten up. The bad-aspected retrograde planets show a pattern that has been repeted in several lives and that the native really needs to work on in this life. If there are no retrograde planets in the chart it's an indication that the native won't progress much in this life. Mars, Venus and Mercur retro also indicates blockade in the destiny of a person, but you can look at the progressed chart and see when the planet stops being retro - at that age the blockade will be removed from the native, according to Bizemont.

I couldn't find anything about unaspected Saturn (so far, I'll get back to you if I read something, Cat), she only writes that Cayce didn't put much weight on aspects.

Bizemont writes that the cusp of the 8th house might indicate how or where you died in your last life. The cusp in Gemini that you died young, the cusp in Aries that you died in war etc.

Retrograde Jupiter in 8th house:
Mystic position of this planet, suggests that the native was involved in sorcery or black magic in a former life, maybe even secret police. Anyway, the the life philosophy is very negative and the honesty in finances doubtful. If Jupiter is bad aspected, the native is obsessed by fear of death. The native should make an effeort not to fall into fantatic groups or religious sects. Also to be honest when it comes to finances. Finally (if it was the case in the former life), the native should stop frightening others and threaten them with death.
(You share this placement with Guillaume Apollinaire, Francois Mitterrand and Marlene Dietrich, Cat!)

As for Neptun, Bizemont writes that if it's retrograde, strongly placed in the chart or badly aspected, it might indicate that the native lived through the destruction of Atlantis. As Neptun symbolizes dissolution, a strong Neptun in a chart symbolizes the dissolution of the ties to earth (last incarnation).

posted December 09, 2002 07:50 AM              

That sounds like a very interestin book. If it is not too much of a trouble what does she say about retro (stationary) Saturn on the 8th. (Some astrologers tend to be way too gloomy about it ).

And BTW although I have Aries on the cusp of 8th, I didn't die at the war "previous time". But the death in a war is one I remember extra clearly and I have met some familiar faces from that particular period.

posted December 09, 2002 12:22 PM              

Aen, how did you learn about your former lives? I'm trying to learn about mine through dreams, but haven't got very far yet...Any advice?

posted December 09, 2002 12:48 PM              

Does that book say anything about having a whole heap of retrogades in a chart?

(That is:
Mercury Pisces 09°34'31 04 retrograde
Mars Leo 29°36'49 10 retrograde
Jupiter Virgo 03°05'16 10 retrograde
Saturn Virgo 23°43'35 11 retrograde
Uranus Scorpio 25°29'47 01 retrograde
Pluto Libra 21°08'41 12 retrograde)

(If you have time...Op, I just realized that it may look like I'm asking for a description of each; I'm not, just the impact of so many retrogrades)

posted December 09, 2002 01:00 PM            

Like you, I also have a Saturn (Taurus) retrograde with Aries on the cusp of my 8th house.

I have 3 good aspects (Saturn Sextile Mars, Trine Sun and Trine Mercury, but it opposes my Scorpio Jupiter). I also have my North Node in retrograde.

I would also be interested to learn how you discovered your past live.

Thanks for the info.

Pidaua

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"Loyalty to petrified opinion never yet broke a chain or freed a human soul in this world--and never will."

posted December 09, 2002 01:50 PM              

If that link doesn't work try this http://www.azastrologers.org/articles.htm. Alot good articles there.

posted December 09, 2002 02:28 PM              

With four retrograde planets or more, especially when it is about personal planets (Mercury, Venus, March, Jupiter and Saturn), the native begins his life while internalizing his desires and his impulses a lot.
He is more receptive to the subjective world and withdraw into himself.

posted December 09, 2002 02:29 PM              

Now, he can exploit the qualities of this planet like a grant and can tempt to perfect it more. It is therefore about a karma positive recompense.

A dissonant retrograde planet indicates the repetition of negative patterns that proves to be problematic. In past lives, the native had some behaviors (according to the nature of the planet concerned) that were prejudicial for him or for the other.

He tends to repeat these same behaviors, to meet the same problems, but he must not resign before them. He can have the impression that the misfortune falls unjustly on him, whereas it has the fruit of his past lives harvested only. It is here about a negative debit karma.

Dorothée Koechlin de Bizemont,L’astrologie karmique

posted December 09, 2002 02:39 PM              

Hope it helps

posted December 09, 2002 03:40 PM              

Retro Mercur in the 4th house:
The native's childhood is of great importance: He never forgets any of his first impressions in this life. He continues to search for a familiar and affectionate security, like he has done in former life. In this incarnation his emotions chains his intellectual development. He can't express himself untill he has affectionatily progressed - and accepted to grow. When he has learned to not hold on to passed emotions he'll come out of his immaturity and his real personality will be revealed (usually at a mature age).

Retro Mars 10th house
A huge professional instability is suggested by this position: The native, in his former lives, has not known to carry a professional activity. He quarelled with his superiors, didn't respect the dicipline if he was a soldier, revoluted against his bosses, he only had in perspective his own interests, immediatly. If he was a surgeon, maybe he put money or promotion in front of the health of his patients. Maybe in his profession he also behaved sadistic. The karmic lesson chosen by the native is to aprreciate perseverance in professional efforts. And that the native bewares that he doesn't sacrify his honnor for ambitions.

Retro Jupiter 10th house:
In his previous lives the native has done a lot of wrongs himself. Irresponsible and dishonest in his professional life, he cheated in his career. In this life, he has chosen a chance to succeed, both finacially and professionally, while keeping his dignity, loyality and honnor.

Retro Saturn 11th house:
"Tell me who you haunt and I tell you who you are...". The native, in his past lives, did not understand the laws of friendship, choosing friends inferior to himself to make him feel more valuable, using friends as tools for his ambitions. He risques, in this life, to be deprived of friends. He suffers, and asks himself why...If he tries to choose friends without egoistic motives, but for a spiritual and affectionate exchange, he'll slowly regain his sense of friendship.

Retro Uranus 1th house:
Eccentric, crank and misunderstood by others, this native has one single motivation: Defend by any means his freedom. He was probably deprived of freedom in former lives. Even if he feels different to others, he has to admit that also he is a human - and therefore lives by the same laws as others. As he he's generous, an idealist he has to understand that his real freedom doesn't develop by depriving other people of theirs....like it says in "The Charter of Human Rights."

posted December 09, 2002 11:38 PM              

So, gleaning info from past threads re: reincarnation/life work, etc., I know the following:

*I have 6 planets retrograde; these may represent (more or less) energies carried over from earlier lives (for good or ill...well, more like to work with or work on).
*I have a buncha squares (5, I think...) and 2 oppositions (but also 6 sextiles & 2 trines) - so, a lot of "creative tension", but also material to use in working with that.
*My chart is very East-biased (7 planets), but fairly well North/South balanced (with 5 in each, but Chiron tipping the scales towards the South...unless you want to award more points to luminaries - both in the North; but then the ruler(s) of my Asc are in the South, as is my strong Venus)...which leads me to think that perhaps my "inner self" will be more, well, um, inner-directed, more reliant upon inner resources, while my expression will be thrust outward - but anyone feel free to contradict that, as I didn't read it anywhere; it just made sense from the little bit I know).

So. I have work to do - both to straighten things out and b/c, as someone said, this is a "sowing" incarnation for me - and ostensibly both the restless itch and the bit of stability needed to fall back on to do, uh, whatever I end-up veering towards.
The question being what that will be.

I've written this all out here so that ya'll know that your help provided to me has not simply languished; I've been thinking through the concepts presented.
But, no worries - I don't simply feed-in whatever's presented. If something seems right to me, I take it. If not, I toss it.

posted December 10, 2002 06:26 AM              

Unfortunately can't give any advise. I didn't made any conscious effort, it just that when I was about 15, I started to have kind of flashes of memory. Later several dreams. The general picture is rather fragmented, but workable.