posted December 30, 2002 05:44 PM              

Mystique, we'll talk later

Aselzion, I agree with you about free will, in fact , today I received an e-mail talking about that. Very interesting...it's about free will and the tarot game. A quite interesting approach. I will translate and post here.

Yet in relation to free will I am calm. I make my homework everyday, I don't make bad things to anybody, I help those who needs, I am a loyal friend, I am a good mother and a good daughter... I don't kill whales... and even so, every kind of s**t happens in my life...
I am full aware that the objective of each incarnation is our own evolution, for this reason I try to learn with the problems and tragedies of life...'cause I know that I choose them...

But "be" God, is another thing...are you serious ? Or is that a metaphor ?

posted December 30, 2002 06:18 PM              

When you think in complaining of your life, remember mine !

*3 planets at critical degrees, Venus, Mars and Uranus
*if angles and house cusps are important then I am loaded with them
*29 degree Scorpio is the most karmic point in the zodiac and I have that
And untill the end of the day I'll discover more stuff...believe me !

I don't need only the four Lords of Karma to teach me and guide me, I need the whole cavalry !

I'm kidding !

I have a quality that is worth for many. I am the most optimistic person that I know. I always believe that in the end everything will be fine. I am not afraid of life, the problems don't frighten me, but the opposite, they impel me !

Dear, all the relationships are karmics, in one way or other and ours is not an exception. Since the first time that we chatt here, I knew, I felt, that there was something more... don't ask me why...well, as you know me, you won't

And I will not move my Saturn, we'll have to deal with this !

Ok, knowing what I know now, and what I'll discover, 'cause I'll begin my research now...I must say that I don't know if I kill myself, get marry or buy a bicycle...

If I kill myself, I will have more karma in the next life, if I marry again, I will have more karma in this life, if I buy a bicycle... what interesting thing can happen? Anything !
So,it's better to catch this flight with you to South Africa !

Love
Jakie

posted December 30, 2002 07:41 PM            

To BE God isn't really a metaphor, I believe that it is THE REALITY.

Have you read Conversations with God by Neal Donald Walsch? I HIGHLY reccommend that trilogy. Books ONE and THREE are the most personally enlightening, and book TWO is more of a global/political nature, which doesn't really light my fire, though I do agree with his concepts.

I feel his books are a very clear channel for some very valuable and much needed information, and hope that you will at least read Books ONE and THREE.

Bright Blessings...

posted December 30, 2002 08:48 PM            

Stella mou, filakia!
Well, look at all these connections
Just taking a few quick peeks here and AR and will post my interp for you tomorrow...xero to oniro sou, kane ipomoni!

Jakie, you have a kiss on your window

Aselzion, hope you will have some time soon to look into my questions on UC...I know you work lots hours like me so I am patient (sighs!)

Nighty night everyone, me go

posted December 30, 2002 08:56 PM              

Aselzion, thanks for the indication of the book.
But will I have to buy them and finish reading to know your opinion ?
Why don't you give me your point of view ?

Love
Jakie

posted December 30, 2002 10:56 PM            

My point of view?

When an artist creates something be it a painting, a sculpture, a dress, a piece of music or writing, a wonderful meal.. whatever... they invest it with a piece of themselves. I believe that the same holds true for God.

God is ALL there is. Love is ALL there is. Everyone and everything that we encounter in our Lives is therefore an outpicturing of God. God making Him/Her/It Self known to us. In this way we are ALL God.

I never realized how hard it is to put such a concept in to words that make sense.

Let's start here and see where it goes, shall we?

Peace and Light...

posted December 31, 2002 03:16 PM            

Stellitsa, milao apo mikri mas emathe o pateras mou, kai otan emena stin Ellada imoun ligo exo ap tin Athina, Neo Kosmo. Esi milas poli kala, sou emathe o androulis sou?

Carm chiquita, I wish you happiness, courage and strength in the new year

Aselzion, Carlo, Robert and Alena and all reading this thread warm blessings to you and looking forward to getting to know you all better in the New Year.

Have fun tonight everyone!

posted December 31, 2002 04:51 PM            

And may God Bless you all with a Wonderful, Magical, Healthy and Prosperous New Year!!

posted December 31, 2002 09:00 PM              

Yes love to all who make linda-land possible and thanks A and Carlo

posted January 01, 2003 06:28 PM              

There was a moment in my life that I thought like you, that everything was God, yet, there was not one God. Today, in everything I see God, but I don't believe that everything is God.

I believe in one God.One Creator. Not in the god with white beards sat down in a cloud, not in the god of the old will, cruel and revengeful, not in a god masculine or feminine, but in one God that possesses the two sexes, or none...

I could say to you that He knows each one of us by our names. But I prefer to expose my thought in a more rational way.

Why do I believe in just One God ?

Because one thing doesn't change nor moves alone, without something acts in it. A wood that becomes coal needs the fire.
So to have the fire, it is necessary that something has lit it, and so that something might have lit it, it is necessary that there is another previous thing that has took it from the inertia.
That cannot continue to the infinite, because it is always necessary that there is something to move or transform what moves or transforms a thing, it is therefore necessary that there is Somebody that moves but it is not moved.
For me, this somebody is God.

Socrates called God " The Causes of the causes ".

All of the things that we see are passing things, even the mountains that are shaky for the erosion and, in many cases, they were already part of the sea.
So, for something started to exist, it would be necessary that there was something to do that started . Each being needs another being, previous to him, that might have given his existence. If in some moment there was nothing, there would be nothing today. It is necessary a first Being , somebody that exists without nobody made him to exist .

Of course that's just my opinion

Mystique
Stella..."the friends that I'll have"...

posted January 02, 2003 01:09 AM            

It seems as though we are saying essentially the same thing but in a different way.

You see only ONE GOD as you say, I see only that GOD IS ALL.

It's such a hard concept to talk about, but as I say, I think if you read Conversations with God, She explains it much better than I ever can.

I don't believe that ANYTHING including God is static.. that there is no change or eveolution even for God. It is my belief that we are all God experiencing Itself in myriad different ways, and no not just here on this Earth, but on every planet in every solar system in every galaxy in the Universe(s).

As God said through Neal Donald Walsch: We are all God, Godding.

But that is just my humble opinion. You asked me to explain my point of view, and I think that's about the best way I can do it.

In the Light...

posted January 02, 2003 03:34 AM              

It is interesting to hear your and Asezions outlooks.

You two may have some differences in detail, but I sense you both are loving the same loving G-d and see the beauty and know and trust that. FYI I love the same G-d too

posted January 02, 2003 05:27 PM              

If we follow our path, doing the best that we can, helping the others, forgiving, loving each other and mainly, not trying to prove that we have the monopoly of the truth, He finds us...and we find Him

Hi Danita

Love
Jakie

"If you love something, set it free...if it comes back to you, it is yours...if it doesn’t, it never was. "