posted March 11, 2003 04:56 PM              

A Libra Moon does often display a marked affinity and connection to the mother.

Libra rising is usually very appearance- conscious, wanting to make the bestpossible first impression. Not wanting to make waves or offend anyone is OK unless it leads to suppression of or compromising of one's own beliefs so as not to cause any conflict.

Indecision often is intimately related to the Libra rising folks, since the tendency is to be so careful to always do the right thing.

posted March 11, 2003 05:08 PM              

I do try and appear a certain way. As that is partially due to the way I was brought up. Not a "fake" person with "fake" mannerisms... just someone who attempts to always be polite until of course there are situations in to which the politeness has to go!

I will compromise to an extent with anyone. Though, once I see it's going over board I tend to rebel and "say my peace" so to speak.

posted March 12, 2003 12:10 AM            

Well, I'm not surprised by your Aries friend's reaction to frustrations of the road. Our motto is "get the hell out of my way" "do your sleeping at home". Road rage is a little different however, taking those frustrations to extremes. Anyone or anything that gets between an Aries or Leo and whatever it is they're trying to do at the moment is going to draw some heat.

The Libra personality is very attractive, easy going generally, social, well mannered and doesn't like scenes. They will however argue in the guise of discussion and attempt to get you to agree---but in reasonable sounding tones. I wouldn't worry overly about having a strong dose of Libra in your chart. Mine's in Venus where it's right at home.

Well, if you've ever looked at a deep pool of water, you'll notice the surface is still and calm but if you could see beneath the surface you'd see a hell of a lot going on down there. Scorpio is a water sign and there's a lot of hidden emotion going on beneath the surface that people don't see.

When I ran our charts together, the program said "mission impossible" Primarily because of a Sun Square Mars, which Linda Goodman said it's best to settle karma between people with that aspect in another lifetime. There is both good and other difficult aspects as well.

If you want the rest posted, let me know and I'll put it up.

posted March 12, 2003 12:44 PM              

ex: I have a couple of virgo friends in which I think are hilarous and the others I know don't find them the same way at all??

Also, I see other people one way and someone else sees them as something completely different. I wonder if it's all due to where a persons Mercury is placed as regards to how they communicate or "look at" the way another person's way of communicating.?

As is it seems that you can have a group of people in a room and one will say something .. and no 1 person will get the exact interpretation as to what was said? Leads to a lot of confusion and unintentional offenses being taken.

Well, it has on my part from time to time

posted March 13, 2003 01:14 AM            

OK, here's the rest of the synastry. Lots of squares and oppositions which are difficult aspects and all the more difficult considering the squares are mostly Scorpio/Leo. Mission Impossible?

1scorp Aspect jwhop

Sun Square Pluto
Sun Square Midheaven
Moon Opposition Mars
Moon Trine Jupiter
Mercury Opposition Saturn
Mercury Sextile Neptune
Mars Square Sun
Mars Square Mercury
Mars Opposition Saturn
Mars Opposition Uranus
Mars Sextile Neptune
Jupiter Conjunction Pluto
Jupiter Conjunction Midheaven
Uranus Square Moon
Neptune Trine Moon
Neptune Opposition Jupiter
Pluto Trine Jupiter

These aspects concern the possible relationships between two charts, especially the emotional relationship , but also those on the social, intellectual and spiritual levels.

1scorp Square jwhop Sun - Mars
Here is a couple which will have frequent disputes. Finding it impossible to speak calmly, they will always be aggressive towards each other. Conflict is caused because they both want to dominate the other. They cannot live on the basis of mutual understanding. The man is the type who lays down the law, gives orders, makes decisions and the woman is the independent type, who cannot stand being limited, taking orders - the more so from her partner.

1scorp Square jwhop Moon - Uranus
Not favorable for a union, very unstable and not lasting.

1scorp Square jwhop Mercury - Mars
Lots of problems can be foreseen for this couple, lacking in understanding, with ideas that are too different - and this leads to disputes. They are not made for each other.

1scorp Square jwhop Sun - Pluto
A great physical attraction will unite the couple, but these relationships are not healthy. Pluto tries to change the Sun, which is not at all appreciated, and this leads to sometimes violent conflict.

1scorp Trine jwhop Moon - Jupiter
They go well together, understand and have confidence in each other, develop side-by-side in the same way, and will have many joint projects. They will have a happy family, where their children will grow up in a pleasing atmosphere.

1scorp Opposition jwhop Moon - Mars
Passions that could well lead to conflicts, even violent ones not only verbal but also, unfortunately, sometimes physical.

1scorp Opposition jwhop Mars - Saturn
It is impossible for such a union to happen but, if it does, it will be unbearable.

1scorp Conjunction jwhop Jupiter - Pluto
A possible union. Look at the other aspects to interpret exactly.

1scorp Trine jwhop Moon - Neptune
An almost magical bond will unite them. Perfect harmony.

1scorp Trine jwhop Jupiter - Pluto
A possible union. Look at the other aspects to interpret exactly.

1scorp Opposition jwhop Jupiter - Neptune
Unlucky union.

1scorp Opposition jwhop Mars - Uranus
It is impossible for such a union to happen but, if it does, it will only lead to violence and extreme aggression.

1scorp Opposition jwhop Mercury - Saturn
Mercury will find it difficult to tolerate Saturn.

1scorp Sextile jwhop Mercury - Neptune
Positive aspect: Good spiritual understanding.

1scorp Sextile jwhop Mars - Neptune
A difficult union that can succeed, but could founder in lies. Be very careful.

I always take into consideration that the interpretations don't take into account the signs involved. Further, different interpreters would tone down wording somewhat on the degree of conflict and aggression.

A Mars/Pluto square, which is not present is the aspect that is usually considered to lead to violence.

Strange that is every case I've seen where there is an aspect with Saturn aspecting the personal planets in a synastry between people that have a significiant age difference, it's always the older person who is Saturn, the teacher.

posted March 13, 2003 09:07 AM              

Though, the physical aggression?! Now I have to say.... you would HAVE to be the one to initiate that one! Strange? As I still think you have loads of wit.

It's one of those that can be tolerated if only taken in small doses then?!

What does confuse me about aspecting with two people is that it seems to show bad things and also good things? Ex: You said there was A LOT of conflict but then again there is a healthy home life? ... curious.

Also the Saturn aspect. I can believe that one. As most people with an age difference have sort of "been there done that". I had ran one on someone I knew and they're Saturn aspected me the same. Also, it said that we were drawn due to a pass life experience and that we were twin souls???

posted March 13, 2003 12:35 PM              

Was your Ex a Gemini? My Hubby is. Care to share some secrets or insight?

posted March 13, 2003 06:53 PM            

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posted March 13, 2003 10:20 PM            

Well now, I didn't personally write those interpretations, my program did for the most part, so I'm innocent of all charges. No one's 100% nice all the time sweetie and I don't even pretend to be.

Hmmm, looks like there won't be any physical fights then because it's contemptible for a man to strike a woman. I have seen women pounding on men's chests and shoulders in frustration though and over something trivial. I know that trivial event was only the trigger event for something more deep seated.

Oh no, Scorps and Leos can get along fine most of the time and to include the answer to one of your other questions about why a synastry would seem to have conflicting parts, each one of the aspects has a different interpretation and those interpretations are generally accurate. But a relationship isn't one aspect or the other and there will be times when transits trigger the types of behaviors. Imagine what happens if Pluto happens to be in Leo or Aquarius and comes around to square your Mars. You would probably have some tension and perhaps sullen anger you're carrying around while that same Pluto in Leo would be bathing my Moon in nice sentimental sensuality. Problems. That's the time you might be mad at the world but you would soon find something closer to home to focus it on But not necessarily, if you know what's causing it. Hope that's clear and also that it's correct.

I think the key for people with lots of squares and other difficult aspects is they both know what's causing the problem. It isn't the relationship, it's the transits hitting on sensitive parts of the others chart. That's the time for lots of support and not the time for reactive anger which can start a volcanic eruption.

Saturn aspects are generally considered to be indications of past life associations and karmic as are Neptune and Pluto aspects, at least by Linda Goodman.

Well, a Mercury/Mars Square can be trouble And especially with a Scorp Mars who isn't necessarily wanting to hear criticism and my Mercury in Virgo, is rational, logical and adept with language. So, if you had some questionable project you were interested in, you might get a dose of logic you wouldn't want. But no, to answer your question, your words don't eat at me, it might be the other way around. Do you feel it yet?

If you have a well stocked library nearby, you could see if they have a copy of Linda Goodman's Relationship Signs. Her interpretations are much better and in depth for all the various aspects. Additionally, she went into the past life and karmic issues of the aspects and how to handle difficult ones. If not, the soft cover edition sells for about $10. It's very well worth the time or money to pick up a copy.

Well 1scorp, the thing about a Scorp/Leo relationship is that it probably would never hum along at ground level. There would be highs, very high and probably some crashes but I don't think anyone would say it would be boring. You're a good sport 1scorp, hope this has been some small help.

jwhop

posted March 14, 2003 01:11 PM              

No. You're words haven't bothered me in the slightest. I think it has to do with me knowing I have faults so therefore if someone explains them to me and remains tactful than it really doesn't phase me However, they really have to possess the same type of quality as I can "dish it out" as well

posted March 14, 2003 01:26 PM              

One Taurus moon the other Scorp moon...

Both seem a little free with it
Which I am not an extravagant spender myself. However, I do like nice things and going out on occassion. Although it seemed that what we enjoyed doing and the times in which to do them were completely different... and that they were difficult to persuade at times

posted March 14, 2003 01:56 PM            

Good, you have Relationship Signs.

Don't think you'll have to defend yourself 1scorp. You're a little out of range.

posted March 14, 2003 08:19 PM            

You're a little out of my range from Madeira Beach, Florida but you still might want to post a lookout facing south because I own property in Knoxville and that's a whole lot closer

posted March 20, 2003 06:21 PM            

The last word is often the sweetest

Hey, you weren't going to call me a "damned Yankee" were you?

Sure, I know you're just having fun----aren't you?

jwhop

posted March 22, 2003 04:43 PM              

damned yankee??... NO WAY!

You always make me laugh!..
A true sweet leo. No... before you say it... that wasn't a false compliment.

posted March 23, 2003 01:10 PM            

This could be a very long thread---depending on who really has the last word

Well, "damned Yankee" was the worst profanity I thought you capable of coming up with Iscorp A high compliment in these times.

Sweet Leo?? Oh my, you've been reading the "How to Handle a Leo" handbook.

jwhop

posted March 27, 2003 02:45 AM            

Where is Mazz? Haven't seen her for a while?
You still around Mazz?