posted June 26, 2003 06:31 AM              

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thank you proxi!!!!!!!!!!!! i have wanted this book forever but cant get it right now (money *sigh* why must thou forsake me?). ive heard many recommendations for it. people have urged me to get it.

i do disagree with some of it though, because it doesnt take the whole chart into perspective, however thats to be expected, and its the best moon sign blurb ive read in awhile. i just wish linda had of done a moon signs

my moon is in aries, and 90% of what she said is bang on. i do have other factors in my chart that temper it though, i guess im lucky for that, lol.

ive saved this thread for future reference. again, THANK YOU SO MUCH!!!!! *hugs*

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posted June 26, 2003 09:05 AM              

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"These women like to keep on a selection of male "buddies" to joke around with. They are deeply horrified when outsiders misconstrue these friendships, believing there's romance in them. This is the most naive Moon of the bunch. It's a Pollyanna Moon."

i've never understood why even some male buddies themselves MISCONSTRUE, yep, that's the word, the thing between us. i mean, i really have the best of friendship intentions...

"They are horrible listeners because they're always waiting to butt in with their tuppence worth."

heh.

"Aries Moon does hear you, though. They just think fast. They don't know they're being rude."

wow... an ever-so-nice rationale.

"Restless, Lordy, are they restless. Egocentric? They are self-centered beyond belief. They take everything personally."

thanks, kiddo.

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Thank you so much for typing those, that sure was kind of ya! BTW, I am 2nd House Libra Moon, but I'm not a moocher! Well, maybe hehehe...

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Aries moon is the best, naive and gullible but so honest and sincere, good with children too.
Doesn't listen, a little too in control of the immediate environment, sensitive, worries what other people think, but super in business and honest. Pisces, and Cancer Moons are naive, honest and sincere too.

I like Libra, Aquarius, and Gem moons very much, libra moons do look out their own interests in the long term but I think that's because they desire attention, it's not easy with those Taurus, Aries, Scopio or Leo moons around.

Natasha

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posted July 08, 2003 11:21 AM              

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Hiya Proxi

I've sadly got a Cappy Moon but I have to say I hope I don't fit the description of the 'ugliest moon sign of the lot'....I hope I fall more into the 'old soul' category!

Tara

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posted October 12, 2003 10:37 AM              

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For Vaya.

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posted October 18, 2003 03:15 PM              

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Hi, Proxieme! I know that you dont' want to post any more exerpts from Secrets From a Stargazer's Notebook. But I was wondering if you could possibly send me the book's interpretation of my rising sign, Gemini. I have tried to look for the book everywhere, but I haven't been able to find it. If you could email that part in the book to me, I would greatly appreciate it. (Smilez125#@yahoo.com-remove the #). I realize that it takes time to type up an interpretation, so if you can't do it then I understand. I just thought I'd try and ask .
Thanks in advance.

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sweetscorp - You've always seemed cool to me, so I was going to shoot that description out to you.
I decided, though, that I'm gonna go ahead and type them all up - I got home tonight w/ alot of icky-type thoughts bouncing around, and this'll do to direct my attention away from them (I hope).
As I said b/f, I thoroughly enjoy this hard-to-find book and wish to share parts of it so that others will be motivated to go the extra mile to find it.
*pops in John Scofield & Pat Metheny's "I Can See Your House From Here"*
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THE RISING SIGN:
YOUR WORLD VIEW
AND THE WORLD'S VIEW OF YOU, TOO

"Beware, so long as you live, of judging men by their outward appearance."
-Jean de la Fontaine
Men in general judge more from appearances than from reality. All men have eyes, but few have the gift of penetration."
-Niccolo Machiavelli

Don't let the rising sign fool you. It's the first impression a person makes, all right, and appearances are frequently deceptive. Psychologists call it the persona; psychiatrists call it the defense mechanism. Think of it as an eggshell surrounding the human spirit; the rising sign describes what you look like, your body type, and what kinds of clothes look best on you.
What is your manner of meeting the world? The rising sign indicates your attitudes and styles of coping with people and things - it shows how you get by. No matter what you are feeling inside, your hopes, your desires, your hurts, your private quirks don't show until they pass through this sieve. If you're a giddy Gemini but your rising sign is Scorpio, you look like a Scorpio and act like a Scorpio. You don't chatter to strangers on the bus; you don't wear your favorite colors, green and yellow, because your Scorpio Ascendant won't let you. The Ascendant protects you at a cocktail party; people think you're mysterious. When they meet you at your home, they see the greens and yellows, and you talke their ears off. People take off their rising signs when they feel safe.
Yearning for the stuff of your Ascendant is healthy and typical. A Scorpio rising person thinks a good deal about sex, psychology, and will power. Libra rising persons scheme for beauty, harmony with nature and their environments. They die without other people; they must have a rich social life.
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People with conflict between the Sun and rising sign are more interesting characters; they generally have a lot more depth. You don't really get to know someone like this until you've met them at least five times; they show you a new facet of their personalities every day.
Disregard your first impressions when you meet people with conflicts between Sun and Ascendant. Take time to get to know them. If you have such a combination, you don't take people at face value, and you may need to polish up on your first impression technique.
Harmony between the Sun and the Ascendant means you have so little difficulty making a smooth first impression that you may not notice other people's social discomfort. It's easy for you to appear to be yourself.

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ARIES- Look for a walk with the head poked a couple of feet ahead of the body. They're Rams looking for trouble; the world's full of weaker people to rescue. Life's an adventure and a challenge; the challenge is mainly to keep people from telling them what to do. If you live near an Aries rising person, carry a "Don't Tread On Me" sign yourself. It's astonishing how blind are these innocent, wearm, friendly folk when it comes to stepping on your toes. They turn up, unannounced, to watch your television. They get to feel free and dashing after you've cooked the dinner. No wonder they like resuing weak people! It's the breavest rising sign in the world, though they don't even know it. The eminent astrolger Al. H. Morrison exhibited some of the nobler qualities of this Ascendant; anyone could dine with him. Rich or poor, high born or low, made no difference to him. He helped anyone in trouble and fiexed things fast. Self-sacrifice is the loveliest character trait of Aries rising; shooting off one's own ego whilst embarrassing others close to oneself is the ugliest.
TAURUS - Gentle beyond belief, these folks may seem boring on first impression. They're biding their time. They're slow to form an opinion about you, or anything else. You'd do well to take your time in sizing them up, however...they follow through on their promises. Look for a strong, compact, even stocky body built to take life's shocks. A bull neck for the gentlemen, swan neck for the ladies, and a rich, soothing radio announcer voice for both. They want comfort and security from life; this dominates their thoughts. Taurus rising makes a person look placid. This same person goes to pieces without money, and the more insecure types will do almost anything to get their hands on the filthy lucre. Gloria Vanderbilt has this Ascendant. Money's no problem for her. She uses her stubborn Taurus rising to bull her way through life with a strong set of values, which includes making her own living...who cares if the neighbors beef!

*not in the mood for the first CD, changes to Radiohead's Amnesiac*

GEMINI - What a car salesman! this type can talk you into anything they want to. There's a bit of Irish in them, as there's a way with words here that dazzles on first impression. God made them kiss the Blarney Stone before placing them in the womb. They don't feel as light, charming, and witty inside as they seem, so watch their feelings. Look for the quick movements of a waiter as they go about their business. Often they have high foreheads to accomodate those slippery brains. The eyes have little twinkles in them. No one talks you so much to death, is so sensitive of your mental needs as Gemini rising. And they're funny - Phyllis Diller has this rising sign. The only drawback they socially adept spirits exhibit is their love of dancing. This is Ginger Roger's rising sign, but most of them dance like monkeys. Their world view is complicated. They feel like students of life, and the fellas have a little-boy complex. When danger threatens, they start talking their way out.
CANCER - If you're the fickle type, this sweetheart is for you. Cancer rising people are so moody that you get to see a different person every two and a quarter days, each time the moon changes signs. "Personable" doesn't sound like an exciting description, yet this is the quality of responding to others that gets the job interview won, the people calmed. Look for a ches bigger than the hips, a shambling walk, and sensitve skin that needs to stay out of the sun. Jayne Mansfield had this rising sign, as did Judy Garland. Each performer capitalized on different aspects of Cancer rising: Jayne with the famous Cancer chest, Judy with the ability to respond to the public and make them weep with empathy. All Cancer rising folks think food equals love, and even the wanderers have a home base they cannot bear to give up. The men and women think they are mothers to the world and are afraid to show how cuddly they are, but they are. Their most destructive habit is letting opportunities go by because they aren't in the mood. They are lunatics on the quiet.

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LEO - When this one walks into a rom, POW! You notice them straight away. Leo rising people have presence, and uncommonly good posture. Even the funny-looking ones have a noble carriage. It's not just the well-proportioned body, the prominent eyes, the wide open, symmetrical face, pretty hair, or the rubbable round head...they reek self-assurance and dignity. Whatever inner doubts cloud their minds won't show. Here is the person everyone wants to wear on their arms at a premiere-razzle! Behind the gracious bonhomie is a will of steel, and a surprising, cold attitude with their close pals and spouses. They think the world's an audience, you see; many of these folks are afraid of intimacy, but it won't show up until you get to know them better. Fortunately their world view encompasses a "look on the bright side" attitude; they do trust people, and a "try harder" attitude in though situations means they often win in no-win arenas. Kids love them. Leo rising people can turn your surly brat into Shirley Temple with a little razzle-dazzle. They wear out their opponents by turning up the drama knobs - no one cries louder, apologizes more profusely, and smiles more broadly than Leo rising.
VIRGO - Mary Mary Quite Contrary has this Ascendant. When they are good, they are very, very good, and when they are bad, they are horrid. The most meticulous dressers and the most disgusting slobs are the Virgo risings. They're terribly busy or slacking off when you first meet them; this is a rising sign of extremes. In truth, they go quite crazy if they don't feel they can be useful to the world; they will always find something to fix or fiddle with. Look for a pensive, worried expression, an oddly proportioned body, a quick walk, and a cool, rational, harshly intellectual first approach. Most Virgo rising people are slim from worrying - even the fat ones look slim from the back until you see the pot belly. Always learning something, they are great people to know if you're always getting into muddles with appliances or plain tickets or people. They'll spring right into action, take your problem apart, and put it together again. They prefer highly tailored clothes with lots of pockets, and the military look. They creat a classy intellectual first impression, laced with humility. Julie Andrews has it.
LIBRA - Even the ones who look like toads look like good-looking toads. The skin has an unearthly translucent quality, and there's often a bland, run-of-the-mill prettiness you see in the male and female models in television commercials. Real stunners, too, often have this rising sign, like Liz Taylor. Let a Libra ascending male tell the rest of the story:
"It's easy for me to switch on a sort of public relations charm," he says, "Especially when I want to manipulate somebody. Oddly enough, it's never entirely cynical or insincere. I usually feel that we are two nice people having a friendly chat even when I've blantantly lied to someone. Lying for me is almost always motivated by a desire to keep personal relationships harmonious. I have no scruples or qualms about that at all. If I lie for personal gain or to escape the consequences of something, I feel very bad about it. A friend of a friend some months ago lent me a book of cartoons. I saw him about a week ago and he asked me if I had like the cartoons. I said yes, although I in fact thought them vulgar and unfunny. The motive for lying was not wishing to seem unappreciative of his gesture in lending me the book - unsolicited by me." This good-looking guy wouldn't even hurt a stranger, let alone a friend.
SCORPIO (yeah, Scorp Rising *does the 'me'n'Jase are both cool' dance*) - Often there is a square jaw, quiet demeanor, and eyes that bore right through you. Theirs is a tough, jutting-out stance that says, "Don't mess with me." They take a while to get to trust you, and they puff up like adders if threatened. I'll bet you were so busy being frightened of them that you didn't notice how gaurded and paranoid they were! Helen Keller, Diane Von Furstenberg, Chris Evert-Lloyd, Eva Braun, and Gloria Steinem all have Scorpio rising, and the common thread running through the vastly different lives of these women is the power to inspire others with respect, even awe (or in Eva Braun's case, fear) and unbreakable will power. They're all obsessed with one-to-one relationships, whether it's sex, psychology, or power. Scorpio rising gives people sexy vibrations - you feel like brushing up against them. They give you a little buzz when they stroll by.

...and now I'm tired. I'll write the other 1/3 tomorrow or Monday.

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posted October 19, 2003 12:50 PM              

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Thanks so much, Proxieme! You are the best The description of Gemini rising fits me to a t...(damn this astrologer is good! lol).

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posted October 19, 2003 01:05 PM              

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Bummer...you stopped just short of mine, Sagittarius.

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posted November 26, 2003 12:08 AM              

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*remembers that she has to write the Asc. descriptions*

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posted November 26, 2003 06:32 AM              

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*Nackie chokes on Coffee*

"If you're a giddy Gemini but your rising sign is Scorpio, you look like a Scorpio and act like a Scorpio. You don't chatter to strangers on the bus; you don't wear your favorite colors, green and yellow, because your Scorpio Ascendant won't let you. The Ascendant protects you at a cocktail party; people think you're mysterious. When they meet you at your home, they see the greens and yellows, and you talke their ears off. People take off their rising signs when they feel safe."

OMG how true is this??? Wow is all I can say. I'm a gemini, scorp rising. All my work clothes are black--black suits, black pants, black sweaters, black evening and day dresses. (I'm an event manager). Although I buy all black, too, cause it's practical lol, mornings wake up and throw on anything, cause, tada, it matches, I also just feel better out in the world all dressed in black. I also have some beige and deep red going on in there too, but mostly black.

Buuuuuuuuut...my house clothes (you guys know, you have them too...those soft yoga workout pants with the elastic waist that you keep meaning to do yoga in but usually more sit on the couch and feel comfy in) are all soft butter yellow and lots and lots of dark green or khaki (makes a change from dark BLACK lol). My hallway is papered with alternating butter and ochre yellow stripes. My bedrom is yellow and green. I have tons of greenery in the house. wowowowow

I don't think of sex much though lol, DESPITE scorp rising and DESPITE 8th house sun...maybe that chakra is closed lol

Thanks Proxieme! It's sweet of you to write this out!

Nackie

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posted November 27, 2003 12:25 PM              

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i've moon in sagittarius but in 3rd house. so which do i read?

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posted November 27, 2003 03:26 PM            

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OMG - this is cool thread! Thanks proxieme.
I'm interested coz I have capricorn ascendant but Sag sun. I think i'm seen as serious but when people get to know me they see the more fun side

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posted November 29, 2003 11:14 AM              

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N - Read both.

(..) The sign the Moon is in shows the style in which you need things. Moon in Aries, for example, wants everything NOW. You can't wait to have your needs fulfilled.
The house the Moon is in shows the kind of stuff you need in the world. Moon in the fifth house needs love, needs to be original and creative, and needs to be a little childish. If you have an eleventh house Moon and no friends, you're in trouble. You won't be able to fulfill your goals in life unless the emotional side of your life is satisfied first. (...)

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posted November 29, 2003 11:30 AM              

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SAGITARRIUS - Regardez le walk boppy, ze cheerful-little-earful smile, ze love of things foriegn. They walk as if they're wearing sneakers. There's a long, open face, clear eyes, a certain endearing clumsines when they knock over teacups. The nose is strong, long, and well-formed. Sagittarius rising folks are more generous, trusting, and lucky than the rest of us. These sickening optimists appeal to everyone because of their happy-go-lucky approach to life. This leads them to take risks, so they get away with traffic violations, delicate border crossings, and messy bank balances. If they coast on this luck too long, a subtle erosion of character can occur; too much "luck" isn't always lucky in the long haul. Recognizing this rising sign from from the chirpy, naive, hopeful way they spout grandiose plans - they'll change these plans the way other mortals change the sheets, but they have a wonderful way of many of their dreams come true. They love travel so passionately they frequently bump into things; they're accident-prone. They look so happy on the outside people forget to boost them up. It's Margaret Trudeau's rising sign. They can be a wee bit superficial.

CAPRICORN - Horrible posture, unles they work at it. There is usually a downcast look in the old goat's eye. Often these eyes were made beautiful through sadness; there was a tough, often downright rotten childhood they must rise beyond and forget. They played with the older kids and spent too much time with grown-ups. There's a big, beaky nose, a noticeable bump-bone on the wrist, pretty laugh lines around the mouth, and an annoying tendency to look more youthful and handsome with each passing year. Often they have funny, vulnerable way of walking. They're racked with feelings of inferiority, suffer from melancholia, and may even have black-dog depressions. You wonder how they get through life in such a shambles. They look best in formal clothes, conservative, dark colors, but they don't seem to care much how they look. So you relax, and these ambitious schemers leap ahead to get the top honors, the best jobs, and your girl. Serves your right for judging a book by its cover, says Capricorn rising. Ari Onassis, Jean Paul Getty, and Billie Jean King have Cappie rising. We all know who Clark Ken really is.

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AQUARIUS - A cool, arm's length kind of first impression they make, though they do try to display their eccentricities so you won't be bored. They're the best friends you could ask for, as they're more loyal and not as detached as they want you to think. Social and spiritual issues motivate them. This might make them superior to say the Scorpio rising type, who runs on lust and desire. Then again, Aquarius rising can sacrifice you or another loved one to a Higher Principle faster than you can open a new box of Cheerios. They're awfully psychic, and they like to think of themselves as the weirdos of the group, though they prefer to associate with archconservative people; it makes them feel more daring. In truth, they are conventional in odd ways. Janis Joplin, Emmaline Pankhurst, Elisabeth Kubler-Ross, and Germain Greer all have Aqurius Rising. Look for funny legs, a square jaw, and fine, wide eyebrows arched like MacDonald's. It's an even face, like Libra's, though not usually as prettified. The eyeballs themselves are a strange, lopsided shape, which gives them the look of the lost children of Atlantis.

PISCES - Sweet and sour. Tender, brave, and cynical. It's a short body, inclined to [b]un bon pointe[/i]. Their hair always looks invitingly mussed up, and here are the famous bedroom eyes of Raquel Welch and Princess Caroline of Monaco, both of whom have Pisces rising. These big, bloopy eyes rank with Cappie rising as the most gorgeous orbs of the zodiac. Pisces rising people look like fish-faces. These poetic, sneaky, imaginative, bright, dreamy, restless, sensitive people must be HIGHLY SELECTIVE in choosing environments jand people; they soak up everything that goes on around them. Fortunately most of them are intuitive, and their insight helps them avoid the sleaze. They can choose the wrong people and need to check the facts. They can be strong and brave enough to flow with God's plan; they can play victim and serve as ace martyrs; they're sharp con artists, too. It's all in how they choose. Some of them are so unworldly they will swish around the department store until you find them the exit...but they can save your life.
Some occult teachers say that we return to using our rising sign when we have fulfilled the purpose of our Sun Signs. This usually does not occur until after the kids have grown and we've got time to muck about with nirvana. Then, say the sages, the Ascendant is your Ultimate Spiritual Path, and it has nothing to do with how you act at a cocktail party.

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These women like to keep on a selection of male "buddies" to joke around with. They are deeply horrified when outsiders misconstrue these friendships, believing there's romance in them. This is the most naive Moon of the bunch. It's a Pollyanna Moon.

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Restless, Lordy, are they restless. Egocentric? They are self-centered beyond belief. They take everything personally. Have them stand alone on a building top or let them brag about how cool they are when they feel blue. They'll soon be cheerful again.

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Hey, my brother is actually right about this!

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posted August 18, 2006 11:52 AM              

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I have a question for anyone who has an answer. I have an Aquarius Moon in the 12th House, but the 12th House Moon description is dead on and the Aquarius Moon is really pretty off. Why is that ?

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posted August 18, 2006 12:42 PM            

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Hahaha.... Leo Moon here, Libra rising..

Both descriptions were perfect! Good job

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posted August 18, 2006 12:46 PM              

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Illusion~

Maybe there are other factors in your chart that emphasize your 12th house moon? Maybe the ruler of the 12th, Neptune, is a in prominent position? Also look at Pisces or Cancer since these involve the 12th house and the Moon as well.

For me, having Moon in Gemini in the 11th house is pretty simple because the airiness goes hand in hand. But when you have Aquarius vs the watery 12th, that might be more confusing.

I'm just speculating, maybe if you posted your chart I could have a look. I'm still learning!

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posted August 18, 2006 01:00 PM              

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Scorpio moon and Sag rising here.. both descriptions were very true!

This part about Scorpio moon was sooo true:

"So many of us are threatened by displays of deep emotion that Scorpio Moons learn to hide their feelings when they are young. By the time they grow up, they've gotten good at hiding their reactions from you. What's unfortunate is that they have also learned to hide their reactions from themselves."

It was always hard for me to express my feelings & emotions when I was growing up... combine that with a Virgo sun, and it's even harder! My Sag rising also doesn't like it when my Scorpio moon gets jealous, so of course I always try to hide it. It's been a lot easier for me to express my feelings now, though.

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I read both the Virgo desciption and the Scorpio description for my Virgo moon in the 8th house. I was impressed with the virgo one because I do have a "perfectionist" streak and punish myself whenver I'm wrong. The Scorpio decription, however, was dead-on. "The guess how I'm feeling" game,"Throw a red herring to make it more difficult"; I'm guilty of that. I would get into some fights with my boyfriend over that. He always say "I'm no mind-reader".With his pisces moon....pulease. (I'm just kidding)
But I completely understand where he's coming from; no one likes guessing games in a relationship. I have to stop that tendency. When there's something wrong, I'll try to say it instead of pout.

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