posted June 06, 2003 03:21 AM              

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Thanks, pidaua! Ya see how Saturn in Pisces in the 12th gets all the bad press? Neurotic as all get-out, risk of institutionalization, too, but with self-isolation, psychological insight and spiritual opportunities, on the brighter side. Go figure, I'm a writer. Hmmm, well, bad PR is better than no PR, so I'll take it . Happily I have channelled sensitivities into metaphysical studies, which has helped a lot.

... and thanks in advance to proxieme!

Lunargirl

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posted June 06, 2003 04:09 AM              

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Hello babe's!

So many of you have Saturn in 8, incredible!
I have Saturn in Taurus in 9th.

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posted June 06, 2003 04:22 AM            

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Aries.

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posted June 06, 2003 10:29 AM              

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Saturn in Taurus and the Second House
...The simplest reading of Saturn in the second house is fear of poverty, and certainly this placement frequently accompanies a childhood spent in want where the luxuries of material life, and sometimes even the necessities, are lacking. This is Saturn on his most literal level, where he denies a material quality necessary to the individual's well-being so that later in life there is a constant need to fill the gap...
...No amount is sufficient in the end to make him feel fully secure, and indeed he is not fully secure because forces larger than him can overturn his life and leave him bankrupt...
...(Or) we will often see a person who, literally or symbolically, will sell himself for security because he has no other sense of values and in the end does not value himself. He judges himself and others by how much he has, not what he is...
...To an unconscious person with this placement, the end often justifies the means, and avarice and greed may be very evident...
...There is another common manifestation of Saturn in the 2nd, and this is the individual who has denied all involvement with material things...
...He has a dim awareness of the fact that greed is as much a part of his own psyche as it is others, but he cannot express tolerance toward his own humanity and therefore becomes intolerant of the greed of others...
...The earthy signs are custodians for many layers of meaning; for when seen from the more esoteric point of view, matter is an expression of spirit which contains in symbolic guise the blueprint for mind, emotion, and the inner purpose for which the vehicle has been created...
...Following this thread is unquestionably like plunging into a labyrinth, for what eventually emerges is that the 2nd house has nothing to do with objects at all. The "pearl of great price" appears to lie at the heart of this labyrinth, but the persistence of a Taurean is required to reach it. The placement (is) to find this central and unalterable view whose definition cannot be properly articulated but whose reality, to the man who has subjectively experienced it, is not to be questioned.

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posted June 06, 2003 10:56 AM              

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Saturn in Gemini and the Third House
...Saturn in the 3rd, when he is functioning in an unconscious way...places strain on the faculty of easy communication and often produces a fear of that which is new, unexplored, and irrational. The flight of the mind is grounded by the demand for empiric information, for that which has been tried and proven safe...
...The individual who as a child is denied education, or given a narrow and restrictive one,is common, and often this mars his capacity to approach life w/ fresh mental interest later because his creative mental facilities have never been stimulated. Equally frequent is the only child who is denied companionship and communication with others of his own age and finds that later in life he has lost the faculty for spontaneous communication...
...He may display unusual mental gifts, concentration, and depth of thought, but he finds it most painful to participate in "small talk" which serves as a symbolic gesture of common humanity...
...There is inevitably a feeling of isolation with this placement because the mind is generally deep and serious by nature, and there is usually some fear of being humiliated or sounding silly or foolish to others...
...The phenomenon of overcompensation may also be observed with Saturn in the 3rd. Often the individual may be one of those who "talks a blue streak"...
...Inevitably the subject of conversation will range in every field except those which truly mean something to the individual. He will say many things, but will rarely say what he actually feels...
...When this placement is seen from the point of view of the opportunity offered, the sense of isolation and impatience with superficial ideas and attitudes may become an inner striving for truth, insofar as this is capable of perception by the human mind...
...The inquiring mind dedicated to the intellectual understanding of those things which are shrouded in mystery, or belong to the realm of the irrational, is characteristic of the man with Saturn in the 3rd who has accepted his apparent isolation in the face of the more meaningful contribution he is able to make to the sphere of knowledge. Saturn only becomes dogmatic when the man is afraid of the unknown and of his own lack of knowledge and intellectual training...
...It is apparent that many instances of (this placement) is concurrent with a fear of things which are new, untried, irrational, or uncontrollable, and which require a genuine sharing of minds on a personal level...
...It is often expressed as an accident-prone tendency(...)and it will usually be found in these cases that if the individual's inner life is examined with some care, the motive for the incapacitation will emerge with clarity...
...Saturn always strives for truth; it is man's fear of this motivation within himself that brings about the catastrophe, for the relentless search for reality as symbolized by Saturn threatens his most cherished illusions.

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posted June 06, 2003 10:58 AM            

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Hi Prox,

I hope I didn't overstep my bounds by posting the descriptions. I think your analysis is more in depth as it actually covers the sign and house at the same time. I just wanted to put some info out there for the inquiring minds.

If I offended you I am sorry.

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posted June 06, 2003 11:02 AM              

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What?!?
No, pid - your descriptions are great
Thank you for posting them
It's always good to get as many sides to a coin as possible, and the info that you posted is really useful.
And, heck, at that point I hadn't even said that I was going to put Greene's stuff up here.
I'm sorry if I sounded terse in my other thank you for your post; I was kinda in a *bleh* mood that night.

I'm half posting these as a learning excercise for myself, and half just because I connected so strongly w/ the description given for my placement that I wanted to give others the chance to see some their own.

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posted June 08, 2003 09:18 AM              

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Saturn in Pisces in the 3rd.

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posted June 08, 2003 09:20 AM              

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Retrograde Saturn is at 12 degrees Virgo in my 4th house, not making any close aspects to anything other planets in my chart. It is square my Asc. though.

Whatever any of that means.

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posted June 09, 2003 12:15 AM              

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Saturn is in my 5th House, conjunct Uranus, Sextile Moon, Trine Sun and Neptune.

Lanny

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posted June 09, 2003 12:32 AM              

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Heya, long time no see I suppose *S*

Saturn is in my ninth house, tight cnj, same degree as Jupiter, two degrees cnj my mid heaven, under Libra

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posted June 09, 2003 03:33 AM            

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3rd house Virgoan Saturn here.
What Liz wrote about the 3rd house there is startlingly accurate for me on many points.

This is good stuff. Pid, the interpretations you posted were good too.
Thanks to both of you.

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posted June 09, 2003 05:32 AM              

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Hi all

Proxy, do you have an interpretation for Saturn in the 10th?

I like the one about Saturn in Gemini. Yep, I'm unable to engage in small talk

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posted June 09, 2003 08:08 AM            

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Saturn in Scorpio in the 8th house
also....it squares Moon, Mars and Venus
it sextiles my Sun

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"Most people love with restraint
As if they were someday to hate
We hated gently, carefully
As if we were someday to love"-Venus Trines at Midnight

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posted June 09, 2003 09:26 AM              

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Yep

I had a kinda hectic weekend, so I didn't get a chance to read through the chapters and pick out what I wished to write, but I'll do so this week.

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posted June 12, 2003 01:53 PM              

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Hi !!!

Saturn in Sagittarius, house 10.

Mar y Sol

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posted June 12, 2003 04:25 PM              

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My Saturn is in Aries, in the 8th house conjucnt Venus.

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posted June 12, 2003 05:54 PM              

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Ack!
I'm sorry!

I'll get back on this!
I promise!

I've been...distracted...lately...

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