posted June 28, 2003 01:08 AM              

Apparently there's something called Cinderella transits -- both men and women have these -- when love is supposed to arrive.

I was once told a key year for me would be 41. Of course I was told that when I was 23, which seemed like _forever_ at the time...

posted June 28, 2003 01:26 AM              

Progressions are FANTASTIC in showing the occurance of events, and-----depending on the exact calcuation and accuracy of a chart (down to a fraction of a second)-----the exact hour of an event can be calendarized months ahead of time.

One can gain many benefits by knowing in advance when something is likely to occur, although the consequences depends on the type of action and decisions made-----so free will can and does enter the picture! But negative indications can be counteracted and changed into positive effects by knowing what to do way in advance, instead of being caught off guard and taken by surprise.

Traveling with a map sure is a better way to travel and get to one's destination than traveling on instinct. Astrology can be that map (when the horoscope is 100% correct, and no less)! And one's talents and energies can be used to their fullest potential or negatively. There are negative and positive sides to everything-----including the planets (which I consider to be planetary guardian angels that can be relied upon when in need, by attuning oneself to their vibrations and drawing upon their energies [depending the direction one wants to head in] in the exercise of willpower, in addition to many other ways).

posted June 28, 2003 02:16 AM              

I agree with you: a chart can be rectified when the birthtime is unknown, but progressions are by far more accurate than transits. Also----don't know if you ever heard of spiritual births, but even when one has one's physical birth time, a chart has to be rectified, anyway, because physical birth ("first breath") times do not coincide with soul-selected horoscopes containing all of the astrological influences within a baby's body. Many are uncomfortable with this idea, because for many, many years (possibly centuries) mainstream astrology has given the false idea that physical birth, first breath, times should be the basis upon which a horoscope should be calculated. Now, at first, this makes a lot of sense, since-----for many who don't know-----there is no other time known by which to go by (and rectifying horoscopes is no easy thing!). But, if one thinks more deeply about it, spiritual birth times make even more sense, because spiritual birth times don't occur on an analog scale, with its even hour or half hour or quarter of an hour times: soul-selected horoscope times are limited and occur in flash (less than a second), which is why rectification of charts with respect to times and longitude and latitude must be calculated down to the second, or better (depending on the tools one has and the correct mathematical inputs in astrological programs). This time (spiritual birth) occurs during the process of labor and can be as far as four-and-a-half hours before the physical birth. ALL Spiritual birth time horoscopes are 100% totally functional. NO physical birth time horoscope is 100% (or even 50%) functional-----absolutely none!

The Sun, Moon, planets in signs, and plantary aspect pretty much will remain the same. However, the ASC (and possibly) MC will be either at an earlier degree of the same ASC sign at one's physical birth time (if the sign is rising in its middle to late degrees) or one to two signs back (counter clockwise). What this means is that some, half or all planets will be shifted back to the houses before them by up to one to two houses back (again, counter clockwise, so: if a planet is in the 3rd house, it could move back into the 4th or 5th house).

All dated events must include appropriate aspects that involve natal/progressed ASC/ MC (or their rulers) and planets. Aspects must be within 00° 04' (zero degrees and four minutes) or less. All events tested must match without exception; if an aspect doesn't match a dated event, the horoscope is incorrect. Also, there are physical and mental characteristics to each sign rising that enable one to decide where their real ASC placement belongs-----especially the shape of head, although one's whole body must be taken into consideration, as well.

posted June 28, 2003 07:34 PM              

To find true love, look to your 7th house cusp and any planets therein. If there are no planets in your 7th house, look to the placement of its ruler(s)-----the sign(s) that the ruler(s) is in. Also look to the close apsects that the ruler(s) of the DSC or planets in the 7th house make to other planets. The sign the ruler(s) is in, or the close aspects the DSC ruler(s) make to other planets should correspond to a partner's Sun, ASC, Moon or MC.

I have Capricorn on my DSC and its ruler, Saturn is in Leo and is conjunct Mars. Its other ruler, Uranus, is in Scorpio and makes close aspects to Pluto and Neptune. Those that I tend to be the most attracted to have prominent Capricorns, Leos, Aries or Scorpio's in their charts. That means that they have either the Sun, ASC Moon or MC in one of those signs, especially the Sun, ASC and Moon! (Once or twice I liked someone who had a prominent Pisces or Sagittarius [both co-ruled by Neptune], but those aren't the primary signs that I am attracted to frequently.)

To answer your second question (letter "b")-----finding career success: there are three ways that can be of help to you. The 2nd house shows one's talents that can be used and the means by which one can go about acquiring an income. The 6th house shows the type of work one is able to perform by making use of acquired skills (learned back in the 3rd house) or the way one goes about attaining personal accomplishments. The MC or 10th house shows what one is likely to do in life-----one's life's work! Look at the signs on the cusp (their elements and qualities), the placement of their rulers (by sign and house), and the aspects they make to other planets to see what the best types of careers are for you.

To answer your third question: you must first VERIFY your horoscope (all horoscopes need to be verified and not just taken as given [as is the case in accepting one's physical birth time].) No physical birth time horoscope will yeild any positive confirmation of dated events, nor is any totally functional. Now, the characteristic of a rising sign may still fit a person's physical birth rising sign, but-----as mentioned in my reply before this one-----one's spiritual birth ASC can still be in the same sign as the one rising in the physical birth, BUT AT AN EARLIER DEGREE!

The way to do it is also in my previous reply, but to get a more detailed way to go about do so, go the the post that says, "Ascendant--degrees", by "lovely" on the 2nd page. In it I answered Natasha and tell her the steps to take to obtain a 100% accurate and totally functional horoscope!

Hope my answers helped to clarify any misunderstanding you may have had.

Shaun

posted June 29, 2003 02:59 AM              

i havent attempted rectification because i am not comfortable with it yet. its something i plan on doing in the near future and i am going to go to the post you mentioned... see if i cant take a crack at it now. most of my problem is self confidence. i am not very objective with charts that i have a vested interest in either, to wit, my own. also that of my husbands... and others i am close to. i need that objectivity.

i was wondering if i could ask you a simple question, but in email? would that be ok? i just have a question i wanted to ask about my chart because there is no real answer apparent... at least not with any information ive been able to find, and i would really like to have it answered definitively for once and for all. its been bothering me a bit lately. if not, its ok, i respect that. thank you for all the wisdom you have shared here, its terrific to see that people arent stumbling in the darkness at this forum! nothing is more noble than teaching and helping, imo. i wish i could do more of it... and i will, one day.

i have a packed 9th house lol... and nothing in my 10th at all. the ruler of the 10th (libra) has its ruler in virgo, which rules the 9th. venus is in the 8th. im a libra native with sag rising. stands to reason learning and teaching are important to me, unless my logics fuzzy. like i said, i am MOST unable to work with my own chart, to a point. with other peoples its smooth sailing.

anyway thank you for your help in this thread, and in others!

btw the link to the ascendant thread-
thread: ascendant--degrees

posted June 29, 2003 04:59 AM              

I will give you my old E-mail address that I posted at this site a while ago (I've had a problem with someone sending me unpleasant messages [to say the least], which lead to my changing my E-mail). It is imparteroftruth@yahoo.com. You can send your question to me there.

AND: don't worry! You'll be able to do this soon. I had that problem, too-----with self confidence and not seeing things as clearly at first (with respect to viewing figuring out my horoscope, being aware of so many factors)-----but with practice that problem just fell by the wayside! The more I am aware of certain factors in astrology, the easier it becomes for me to connect the dots (so to speak), the easier it is to interpret and understand astrology and the greater the confidence I have in being absolutely certain of astrological fundamentals! And this can be so for anyone who cares to undertake the task, which is not easy but twice and hard and twice as much effort than just accepting a birth time as given without any further steps taken to make sure that a chart is 100% functional (thus 100% correct). Nothing but the best (and most accurate horoscope) should be given; anything less would be a disservice to the person at the receiving end of a reading, as that person will get a mix of accurate with inaccurate information-----a dangerous combination, specifically because it's misleading!

Astrology is not an easy subject, and in the future it is going to be even more difficult to practice as Spiritual Birth/verified horoscopes become more known in mainstream astrology (of coarse, not without resistance [and there will be much of that-----believe me!]; but this is the Age of Aquarius and the realism of this sign's rulers-----Uranus and Saturn, with the increase in mathematical exactness, emphasis on proof [as opposed to unsupported opinions or presuppositions], and strict astrological standards based on fundamental principles-----will get around to straightening things out sooner or later)!

I don't want to comment on what you've told me about your horoscope, because your horoscope has not yet been verified, and I don't want to mislead you by giving you the wrong information based on an unverified (thus wrong) horoscope. I will just wait until I get your E-mail. By the way: what does "lol" mean? Lind-o lander?

posted June 29, 2003 07:13 AM              

thank you for your comments and your assistance in helping me with my question. i just cannot for the life of me seem to adequately interpret my own bloody chart!!! its so frustrating at times. i am at a crossroads right now too and i need some direction, so im trying valiantly to help myself, but it appears i am far better at helping others with their charts. chiron is opposed my sun by one degree, its like a little joke from him i do so love him though. more aspects to him than any other. 8 of them, with *sigh* 5 oppos, lol.

anyway thank you again, and a mail is on its way in about 5 mins.

~ana