posted November 06, 2003 11:26 AM              

I just wanted to add a couple more thoughts to this fascinating thread!
First, I was trying to figure out why I used to attract aquarians only - both in romance and friendships - even though I have a Virgo sun and Sag ascendant. All of my best school friends were aquarians. Then every important love of my life was an aquarian. Except one Aries.
The only thing I can think of is that by having Uranus in my eleventh house I was naturally drawn to those eccentric individuals, whom I adore. To this day, the aquarians and i are still best of friends. someone mentioned earlier that they are true friends and i agree.
Secondly, back to the old Aries love... For us, the ascendant factor was huge. I later discovered that his moon fell almost perfectly on top of my Ascendant. Does anybody know what that could mean? And although his Aries Sun directly opposed my Libra Moon, we complemented one another nicely. Maybe that contributed to the overall attraction, because usually, from my experience, most Fire and Air types (in romantic relationships particularly) aren't really sure how to respond to my earthy sun, after the initial contact and past the mutual chemistry.
I'm surrounded by earth signs right now, which is fine because it feels like I'm at "home" with my peeps at the moment.

Thanks for letting me share my thoughts!

posted November 06, 2003 11:46 AM              

***disclaimer***I'm going way back, to when I was just 12, and not into the "hot and heavy" stuff yet, but smitten none-the-less.

1. Cory, a Virgo...neighborhood boy who I played kissing games with
2. Stan, a Pisces
3. Todd, a Libra
4. Back to Stan, the Pisces ~ kept reappearing every few years...couldn't seem to resist him.
5. Erroll, a Virgo
6. Dan, a Cancer w/ Virgo moon
7. Kevin, a Taurus w/ Pisces moon
8. Back to # 6, the Cancer w/ Virgo moon ~ had a baby girl with him this time 'round.
9. Darren, a Virgo, Aqua rising
10. Stan, a Pisces (not the same Pisces named Stan from before, but a different one...weird, hey?)
11. Greg, a Virgo w/ Leo moon...longest relationship to-date lasting 6 years
12. Kelly, my current beau, and most lushious by far a Virgo w/ Virgo moon, Leo rising...

And that's all I got...

posted November 06, 2003 12:11 PM              

oh, okay. you included crushes too. i am too embarassed then to write down mine. the list is really long and it makes me embarassed to think that i've had crushes on boys ever since i was 7.

posted November 06, 2003 12:41 PM              

I alluded to Scarlet O'Hara being an Aries somewhere on some previous thread. Well, that was my love history before meeting my husband. I was always attracted to weak Ashley kind of men who needed me. Also, if they weren't commited to me, all the better! More attraction! Finally, I met my husband - and it felt so different, so freeing, so wonderful. He doesn't want to be mothered, yet he is very kind (cancer rising). He is a devoted family man, but also is a strong individual who doesn't NEED me. Friends always say how different we are. We can't believe this! We believe we are just alike - must be his Cap sun and my Cap rising. We have the same values and same work ethic. I just lucked out.

posted November 06, 2003 12:51 PM              

Seems to be at most a small amount of Fire (in the personal planets, anyhoo) w/ a fair mix of Water, Earth, and Air, with the common thread of an Air-Sign Venus (and I know that at least of a couple of the guys that've had crushes on me in the past have had Airy Venuses, too).

posted November 06, 2003 12:57 PM            

Okay, yeah, kind of that's me. I mean I do love being a foo foo woman, as long as I am not constricted. I do wear nylons and dresses / skirts. But I forgo the heels for knee high boots most of the time. Not those crazy high heel boots where you are teetering on a toothpick. LOL I like clothes that are classic, but I do have some trendy pieces as well - as long as they aren't trashy.

I think that may be why some of the Earth guys and Leos are attracted to me. My ex used to always admire my fashion sense and would always give me compliment. My current Leo just shines when we go out, but he doesn't treat me like a trophy. Most of the compliments I get from work are from Earth people (and my best Libra girl friend LOL)

Aphrodite,

Yeah, that former Virgo friend of mine really freaked me out. I would try to get him back to Earth, but he was pretty intense and almost violent. He would yell at me at the top of his lungs, sulk, then blame everything on me and his other friends. I couldn't deal with the negativity anymore.

You should check out his chart:
September 9, 1966 6:57am Silver Spring, Maryland

I do seek out people with more Air in their charts, but not necessarily as their Sun. I have an Air Singleton, so I like to be with a person that is intellectual and Fiery, but a bit more grounded than an Air Sun. Does that make sense? LOL

posted November 06, 2003 01:33 PM            

Oh, I get crushes too! I love to flirt...

posted November 06, 2003 02:41 PM            

The last two mentioned are current infatations, so I don't know if I would consider them "false", but from experience, even though I attract Pisces and Cancer men, with my Aries-rising confidence, and wow the Taureans with my Leo moon/venus elegant feminine flair, I'm better off without the moodiness and negativity of those signs on my already anxious Virgo sun temperment. I've got enough of my own "rain" to not want to always be holding someone else's insecure nature up.

posted November 07, 2003 09:53 AM              

secret b/c we were shy adolescents. i knew he liked me too. know that feeling? we choose almost all the same classes and student organizations to be in. we took a class at a local community college together one summer after the 11th grade. he helped me out with things that i "needed," like driving me to school sometimes or taking me to the library. cappies are funny. he would say things like, "life is like a box of toilet paper."

kids in school would always say, "you two are going to get married someday. you already fight like an old married couple."

i told him i had liked him when we were in school 7 years later

he writes e-mails a little more often now

love and laughs,

posted November 07, 2003 11:27 AM            

I think that some Virgos have a really hard time being just friends, especially those with Mars in Leo. I have started to notice a pattern with that, especially in people with a very strong Virgo influence. I was talking to another friend of mine that hunts with a Virgo. Says he really quiet, but has this thing for guns and when he hunts he's like an assassin. It scares him a bit. So, I ran the guys chart. He has many planets in Virgo, and once again, there is that Mars in Leo singleton.

posted November 07, 2003 11:45 AM              

pidaua brought up a good point, as it made me remember my virgo college friend. he has a scorpio moon and leo planets too. when there was someone he didn't like, he was very cold towards them. he wouldn't even be courteous or exchange a kind greeting. though, he wasn't afraid to be approached by them in person, or change the direction of where he was walking. i, on the other hand would physically avoid them. hmm.

posted November 07, 2003 12:25 PM              

I have been thinking about my comment about being - "low maintenance". It isn't really true. I don't necessarily want presents, because I like to pick out my own clothes, jewelry, etc. I want my own look, not what someone else has chosen for me. I don't like to hire out many jobs, because I want to do my own gardening, guttering, painting, cleaning, etc. It isn't the $; I just want it done correctly. I generally like to pay for and buy my own stuff. I also don't want my husband or kids clinging to me. Yet, to be perfectly honest, it is quite important to me that the people I love act like I am the most important person in their lives - the center of their universe! Is that high maintence? I am thinking ... yes.

Just being honest.

posted November 07, 2003 01:15 PM            

Yeah it is mean. But the Aries sun / moon, when totally offended can block or freeze someone out. It takes ALOT. This last go round the guy was totally offensive to me and told me he wished I was dead and that I was an evil b1tch and a whor_e. He was supposed to be my friend, but I draw the line at people yelling at me constantly.

Offend my family or offend my integrity (accuse me of being easy...for NO reason) and that it is. I no longer want you in my life.

posted November 07, 2003 10:47 PM              

I used to avoid people, but now I avoid the problem instead. People are not the problem, they are the solution in my life. So if I was to avoid each person I couldn't stand I wouldn't get anything done, and I would feel guilty anyway. When I ignore a man, it's because I feel a strange feeling around him, which I can't explain. I don't try and analyze any negativity.

Other than that, must be my 8th house moon, but a person would have to be shooting at me for me to go out of my way. I do NOT like to be intimidated by rudeness or a tough attitude. I will not budge to change my way of doing things. As a good Pisces friend told me, you can't change your way of life for anyone, you are independent and you will never be happy around insecure people. Confront problems, don't run away or change yourself to avoid people.

That was good advice, I didn't always take it in regards to insecure people. I am sure that insecurity and paranoia about being liked drives people crazy and when you ignore them it just gets worse. The best thing is to externalize the feeling of being angry so that you understand that you are angry with that person, then you can see if it's justified. That way you do defend your way of doing things, without internalizing all the emotion.

That's the way I have to deal with my anger anyway, I have to confront people somehow. Maybe I learn from others that way.

Virgos and Virgo placements do have trouble with just being friends. I have trouble with being friends with Virgos because they are sexy. I had a virgo cousin that drove me crazy for a long time, I had to stop visiting his house, because I couldn't trust myself alone with him anymore. They are sexy in an innocent flirty way that is so nice it's painful to try and follow through on pure emotion, I feel like some kind of lecher. Eventually I know I will do or say something that is inappropriate so I just do, and then everything goes haywire. Virgos like romance and thought in everything.

I do act that way, sometimes but the feeling fades away to gray, so I try to stay myself. Eventually I get frustrated around virgos and they usually go for Cancers or Pisces girls. That's my insecurity and paranoia showing. Eventually it works but like all love in my life, it's work not a concept.

I do like those earthy placements.

posted November 08, 2003 11:13 AM            

I find Virgo's to be sexy as well. It's the unevolved ones that I cannot handle because of their tendency to be extremely passive agressive.

Now, be being a Sag with a fiery moon, I am no stranger to conflict or confrontation. I do enjoy the battles and usually don't have a problem with asking someone what is wrong.

I also have Pluto conjuncting my Ascendent and I have seen my own actions bring out the worst in another by just a look. My ex Virgo friend and I have worked together for 4 years. We have been through at least 5-6 battles where he went mental on me, each time I was the one to mend the bridge. I know that he is seriously unstable.

There are some people that confronting will only make worse. Violence is a result and I choose not to let myself be the victim. I truly believe that this man would cause physical harm to me if he went into a rage again. I have turned him down so many times and each time he has become more and more violent. He also has a propensity for violence (owns more than 10 guns, one being an assault weapon) and has beaten his friends to the point where they couldn't move. He took a severed pig head and stuck in his friends neighbors yard a few years back because they complained about their late night antics. (I just found that out a bit ago). He is the kind of man that would loosen the lugnuts on your tires, kill you cat or stalk you just for the hell of it.

I wouldn't say there are many Virgo men like that at all. I am looking at the whole person, the whole chart. I find this to be common in super-virgos with Mars in a fire sign Singleton.

My ex-husband is a Virgo and is a very kind man.