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Topic: Factors in a Chart Indicating Brilliance
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posted November 12, 2003 01:19 PM
 
The truly brilliant people fascinate me. Of course, there are many types of giftedness - art, music, science, etc. I'm not necessarily talking about the ones who can memorize quickly, get great grades, or achieve degrees. We all know some people in our lives who can come up with new answers, solve intricate math problems with little training, write music, etc.Are there chart indicators? I know someone who is extraordinarily gifted in math and science, with a 10th house mars and saturn in libra. Rest of the chart is primarily fire. I have heard that the placement of uranus contributes to creativity. It is interesting. IP: Logged |
pidaua
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posted November 12, 2003 02:05 PM
Yep, Uranus in the first house makes us super brilliant...LOL just kidding, although it is said that Uranus in the first house lends an innate ability to understand science, mathmatics and technical fields - such as engineering. I am very involved with science, but my math is a bit weird. I grasp onto concepts, figure out an equation, but historically, it was always different than the normal way of calculating. It's fine unless one has a series of hard nosed Chemistry profs that grade you on "how" you got to the answer. Uranus as a Singleton, like Albert Einstein. But it is usally gifted in one specific area. Mr. Einstein could calculate like no ones business, but he would get lost taking a walk. IP: Logged |
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posted November 12, 2003 05:54 PM
Gah! Pid! You beat me to it!
I was just going to say that a first house Uranus _must_ have something to do with absolute and blinding brilliance.Not that I'm biased or anything. - Corri, 1st House Uranian, married to a first House Uranian  IP: Logged |
pidaua
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posted November 12, 2003 06:08 PM
Hey Corri, What do you think about being with another 1st house Uranus? I have met others with this planetary position and I find it is either an instant love/hate kind of thing, especially if they also have Pluto in that house like me. Sometimes, it is like a great electric spark that lends itself to a creative wonderful friendship or, in your case, beautiful relationship. Other times, it can lead to a creative collaboration and others, it can lead to war. LOL.... Uranus...what a funny planet that one is. LOL IP: Logged |
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posted November 12, 2003 06:25 PM
It's been a kind of instant empathy from the start between us; we both get completely tickled by the other's weirdness & have been attached at the hip since we've met (I mean, except since he's been gone).In general we tend to react to things in the same or similar ways, I'm guessing because we have so many similar energies going on (his Sun conjunct my Moon to the degree, my Venus being his Moon and vice versa, mutual Scorpio Asc, his actively aspected Mars being in Pisces, etc). The only real difference I've seen in the way we react is in our initial response to hurt - I'll withdraw and analyze (probably my Aqua Moon), he wants to hug (his Taurean Moon?); but either because of our mutual Aquarian energy - with his Sun and my Moon both placed in the 3rd - (or maybe because of the 1st House Uranus) we then immediately come together and begin talking. And now I've rambled.
Because I'm at work and bored speechless. IP: Logged |
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posted November 12, 2003 06:33 PM
Uranus I think definately plays a prominant role in the natal charts of "brilliant" people, but it doesn't have to be in the first house. It could be the ruler of the ascendant, or the moon, or placed in the 3rd house, or 10th house, or it could be conjunct or trine mercury, again well placed near one of the "image" angles.But, one way or another, it's probably featured prominantly in the chart *somehow*. Yeah. IP: Logged |
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posted November 12, 2003 07:11 PM
C'mon, Lioneye.
Just admit it - 1st House Uranus = Brilliance. You know you wanna. IP: Logged |
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posted November 12, 2003 07:45 PM
Having a First House Uranus (and being both brilliant and humble), I tend to agree. ------------------
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posted November 12, 2003 08:00 PM
wow Randall,
you just hit 15000 posts! congratulations!I just flipped through my book o charts and found that everyone with a first house uranus is indeed brilliant in their own way.
Of the two people in my book that I know to be of genius level IQ, one has Uranus on the MC and the other has an Aqua asc..though his Uranus doesn't seem incredibly prominent..it's in the 8th..oh tho it is sextiled to his Merc.. IP: Logged |
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posted November 12, 2003 08:38 PM
Aha, yes, but it IS the ruler of the ascendant, and thus the ruler of the chart. That alone makes it prominant.Prox...ok, ok. I admit it. BUT y'all don't own the market on brilliance, look at me, afterall. I'm the most brilliant person to have ever graced this forum, (ok, not) and I don't have a first house Uranus. So there.  Uranus is very close to my MC, though, and it's also the ruler of my moon. IP: Logged |
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posted November 12, 2003 08:40 PM
Before I read the end of your post, I was just going to say that - it is the ruler of your Moon.It's the ruler of so many absolutely fantabulous people's moons, it seems.  re: Pid's earlier question: We're also both pretty textbook ADD, so we have that going, too. Re: Uranus: How about the other "outer planets" in a chart?
Just curious. *cough*
(OK, so Neptune, my Sun's ruler, is involved in a T-Square w/ my Sun & my Pluto, my Asc's ruler, is pretty-much peregrin and in the 12th, the House ruled by the sign of my Sun.)
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posted November 12, 2003 11:10 PM
People with singletons are all really fascinating to me, there is something about them...Lots of squares can make a person very interesting, I am pretty sure brilliance is measured by how many people look up to you, and admire you, the more friction you create...the better. Everyone has their idea of brilliance, to me it's having guts with a tiny ego, one that wants to make a contribution to the world. Where there is a strong will, there is courage too. Without courage, none of the other character traits can surface. Brilliance has to have emotional support from family or somewhere... Usually behind one famous is person is an entire entourage supporting the image. Small ego+brilliance
Big ego=material success That's how I see it,
I have found Moon, Venus, or Mars in Aquarius to be inventive, insightful and optimistic. Natasha
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posted November 12, 2003 11:12 PM
LOL you guys, all these geniuses..Well, in my chart, Uranus is conjunct Jupiter in the 8th House, and I have an IQ of 145. Perhaps it's the conjunction? I have found in myself that I tend to be of a more creative bent than an academic one (but I still did very well in school). ------------------
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posted November 12, 2003 11:13 PM
Did someone say "Uranus singleton"?  IP: Logged |
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posted November 13, 2003 01:00 AM
Weeeel, I have Aqua enclosed in the first house (Cap asc) and in 8th conjunct Pl, squaring almost everything. When it's not squaring it opposes and when it's not doing that, it inconjuncts. The only easy aspect is a sextile to Nep.IP: Logged |
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posted November 13, 2003 01:59 AM
You see, 'Brilliance' is defined by people in different ways. I think in this thread, we're talking about scholastic brilliance, or insightful problem solving brilliance.
But there are many different kinds of brilliant. My sister is brilliant in the kitchen...she creates the most wonderful feasts and presentations of the food. She's a Taurus, with a Gemini moon and rising. Uranus is in her 6th house, not really prominant but she certainly is good at her job. She's a nurse. So, I guess we can't exclude anyone from this because we're all brilliant in one way or another, sometimes experiencing divine inspirations, and Uranus may have nothing to do with it. Ok, it could be aspecting something by a transit, true. So, we all get the benefit of Uranus's brilliancy at some time or another.Leos are naturally brilliant, however.
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posted November 13, 2003 04:57 AM
Lol you guys.LoL@Lioneye lolol Of course, everyone knows that GEMINI are the most brilliant of the brilliant...come on, cop up...you guys all wish you were also a brilliant gem....  No seriously, my son has uranus on the AC and Asc. Aqua...I was told this is a sign of brillance *shrug* Aint seen much of it yet tho lol He'll be 7 in a few weeks. Nackie IP: Logged |
trillian
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posted November 13, 2003 09:33 AM
Uranus in the 12th, but conjunct the Asc., Pluto also conjunct the Asc. All part of a grand trine to the sun and a moon/jupiter conjunction...   IP: Logged |
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posted November 13, 2003 04:30 PM
What do you guys think of a natal Uranus/Mercury opposition?IP: Logged |
pidaua
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posted November 13, 2003 04:50 PM
Hi Tuesday, I have something along those lines, but my Uranus Singleton opposes my Aries moon and completes the T-square with my Mercury.  More than anything is represents a difficulty in explaining how we may have come to a decision or calculated a problem. There are times my mind moves so fast that I get so frustrated when trying to explain it. Do you see that in your life at all? IP: Logged |
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posted November 13, 2003 09:10 PM
Oh, that aspect? Yeah, it tends to make someone stupider than a box of rocks.  Kidding, kiddingNo really, it probably lends flashes of brilliance to you intellect, at unexpected times, and not when you're reaching for it either. It's potentially very very good, though...I think. If the energies of the opposition are successfully balanced, they can feed off of one another. A resolved, or well balanced opposition can function not unlike a tight out-of-sign conjunction. IP: Logged |
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posted November 14, 2003 12:07 AM
Dont mind me thinking in Aquarian abstract here.Lets see, Uranus ..... 1st, 12th, 6th etc.....
I guess that makes us all brilliant!
on a humourous note...
Can you imagine not having uranus.
We'd all be full of dung.
That we know would tend to make us less brilliant!
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cristiname
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posted November 14, 2003 06:20 AM
I have a friend with first house Uranus and a LEO Sun! Pluto in 12th along with Venus-conj-Mars. Libra ASc, however.... she's the most un-brilliant person I know. and I figured the best way around this word is to take it like it is: someone who shines, is shiny, someone you can spot in a crowd from a mile a way! a crowd metaphoricaly speaking. I was almost shoked to see her first house Uranus. she's so...not lile that!
my bf has aquarius sun and merc and something else (can't remember what ).his also libra asc takes the spot again! he's a follower, a pleaser...very orthodox... so, i dunno...
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posted November 16, 2003 09:27 PM
Uranus in 8th is accidentally exalted and seems a good "indicator" of brilliance - lolAlso, i have read that a well placed Venus also indicates brilliance. Also, well aspected Aries, since it rules the brain. Mercury well aspected -- well, would that not indicate same? Mine just happens to be conjunct Sun, Jupiter and North Node -- hmmm IP: Logged |
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posted November 19, 2003 03:16 AM
Since we are on the topic of Uranus and its relation to brilliance in a chart, maybe someone can analyse these aspects that are in mine.Uranus in the Tenth House 10th house
Uranus in Scorpio
Uranus Conjunct Midheaven
Mercury Square Uranus
Mars Square Uranus
Saturn Square Uranus
Sun Trine Uranus
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