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SUN IN THE FIRST HOUSE
"If I am not for myself, who will be for me? And if I am for mine own self, what am I? And if not now, when?"

-Hillel the Elder

You're a personality kid. That's what you came her to do this lifetime...shine. People admire your arrogance.
Oddly, it is one of the hardest positions for the Sun, because the work is self-improvement on every level. You can't afford to behave in any way less than a god. You affect people profoundly with the sheer force of your personality. You might be a teacher, a salesman, or run your own business, but people won't let you get away with less than noble behavior. Act selfishly, use other people to build up your ego, and the house you have built comes tumbling down; all that is left is ashes, and yourself, and a sorry self at that. You may have had troubles with Daddy - look yourself in the mirror and remind yourself that you can be better than him. There are more people coasting on their slick egos who hate themselves with first house Suns than any other position. Learn to love yourself. The best way to do that is to be the brightest, shiniest, most self-confident character on the block. You don't do this by tearing other people down. Psychotherapy will help you.
A celebrity client with a first house Sun told his wife, "If you leave me, you'll never forgive yourself." She did leave him, and she did forgive herself.
There's a spark of god in you. Be brave and live up to it. Dare to throw off your neuroses! Remember, too, that you're supposed to believe you're the Christ. Just don't forget that everybody else is the Christ, too. There's a danger in your self-centeredness bordering on Divine Right. Polish up your character each day, then show off. People look up to you as an example.
Here's a chart of a guru in India who makes miracles happen in front of your eyes. Other first house Suns include Rita Hayworth, James Joyce, John Milton, Renoir, Sophia Loren. Can you think of a more individualistic bunch?
Look for a big smile on a first house person's face, resembling the grille of an Impala.

SUN IN THE SECOND HOUSE
"The greatest and most amiable privelage which the rich enjoy over the poor is that which they exercise the least - the privilege of making others happy."

- Charles Colton

Huh? Any road, this a wonderful place to have the Sun because your mission here is simple. The most spiritual thing you can do in this lifetime is make money. Quit trying to wrap your legs around your head, chuck out the Kalil Gibran jazz, and get busy.
Hold it...there's a qualifier. Have you ever known a time in the course of human events when there wasn't a catch? Yah, yah, it all depends on what you do with the money. Strangely, what you do with your money depends on your values. People born with the Sun in the second house are here to build inner values, of which dough-re-mi is a mere sniveling symbol.
You're the best equipped of all the Sun house positions to keep on keeping when the going gets impossible. Look at the odd assortment of determined specimens with Sun in the second. There's Karl Marx, Harry Houdini, Thomas More, Helen Hayes, Thomas Jefferson, Frank Sinatra, Mark Twain, Joseph Kennedy (the Daddy), Joe Stalin, George Lincoln Rockwell (leader of the American Nazi Party...yick), and Edgar Allen Poe.
Poor eld Eddie Poe. Somehow he managed to fight off grief and melancholia, kept those digits writing, and left us a legacy. Jefferson helped begin a nation based on new values. These second house Sun folks can leave a lasting legacy behind them when they go, whether it's a fortune, a building, kids with high ideals, or an enduring philosophy.
You are here to form stubborn values. You feel like imposing them on other people, usually. Whether you mean to or not, you're here to build an empire in the world or of the spirit. Take your time as you pick and choose your philosophies, for they will have a far-reaching effect even after your death.
I put Telly Savalas' chart in here because he always seemed to play charcters with strong values systems. I got the correct time of birth from his mama, before she had her coffee, so the time's right, but the Hollywood bios list different years for Telly...you know movie stars! I checked them out and this chart looked the most like him to me. He was a long-suffering, kind man.
Leonardo DiCaprio's performance in "What's Eating Gilbert Grape?" knocked critics' and filmgoers' socks off. Then he radiated those selfless, shining values in the movie "Titanic" and rocketed to higher stardom. Jillions of adoring hysterical drooling fans, men and women, adore this kid. Like the Beatles in their day, Leo DiCaprio has the goods to deserve this weird adulation. But it is a hard day's work, one imagines, to keep digging for sensible values whilst continually working one's way through the phonies - and sometimes, sensibly, enjoying them.

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SUN IN THE THIRD HOUSE
"Perhaps each life has one sensational thought, if acted upon will bring great meaning."

- Michael R. Baer

Student of life, when will you ever stop asking questions? You love to interview people, so people adore you. You know the secret of popularity - getting people talking about themselves. Let them give you half a chance and you'll talk them under the table - there's nothing boring about you.
You hear God on the radio, and you give great telephone. You're here to learn a little about alot, crank it around for awhile, then spit it back out to the rest of us. You're the messenger, which makes you a writer, teacher, an actor purveying the ideas of other people. If you work on it a little, you're the master of words and can pick up languages, too. One woman I know with a third house Sun can say, "Where's the toilet?" in nineteen languages. Comes in handy.
This commerical ear and love of the everyday marketplace might make your thinking a little superficial, but you can avoid this trap by constant learning. Cary Grant with his impeccable romantic repartee and Picasso's shrewd commercial and artistic eye embody the third house Sun principle. Other third housers are Hugh Hefner, Abraham Lincoln, Eugene O'Neill, William Penn, Albert Schweitzer, Isaac Newton, Jerry Lewis, and Hermann Goering. You can't say they aren't original thinkers; even Goering was, the rotten one in the barrel.
Here's Rod Stewart's horoscope. He may just seem sexy and too much the wild rock'n'roller to you, but he's a hell of a songwriter. Listen to "Mandolin Wind" sometime. Note also the void-of-course Moon in his chart.

SUN IN THE FOURTH HOUSE
"One man with courage makes a majority."

- Andrew Jackson

You're a hoot owl. This is the house of midnight madness; there is no limit or bottom to your feelings or the depth of your soul. You feel as if you're pitted against tradition or the Establishment. You're supposed to feel that way if you have a fourth house Sun. You are here to change society in a unique, personal way. Yehundi Menuhin, Martin Luther, Leo Tolstoy, Kahlil Gibran, T.E. Lawrence, Howard Hughes, Jesse James, and Joseph Goebbles all have Sun in there. It seems to go with the kind of original thinking people do in the deep of the night.
This house is loaded with Freudian undertones. No one can fully plumb its depths, but shrinks have a ball with patients who have a planet or two there. Unhappy fourth house Sun folks get stuck in tradition or try to live their lives as Mummy and Daddy did. This may be fine for other folks, but it is lethal for a fourth house Sun.
You must create your own emotional network. you regard your friends as family, introduce everyone to each other, then complain happily that you're living in Peyton Place. Make your own traditions. Tell society to go hang and stick to your own principles. What's important to you is emotional depth, and you'd feed or shelter anyone who deserves it. You ought to have a home, or a hunk of land, but the ideal crashpad comes later in life. You're good a real estate and agriculture.
Sun in the fourth house gives you an intuitive understanding of human nature. Many of these folks are more than a little psychic. The example chart belongs to Al. H. Morrison, one of the world's greatest astrologers. He lived in Manhattan, but he sneaked into churchyards to plant flowers when nobody was looking. He taught baby astrologers how to do research, to give credit to others, how to study new planets, to give many freebies, how to make magazines, newsletters, moons and asteroids and Chirons on next to no money, how to be so generous that others flip and act generous themselves, how to fight for better astrology, to avoid In-Crowds, cults, and cliques, to write to scientists and priests and presidents and Big Shots, to not only comfort, but also to befriend the bereaved and broken. He showed baby astrologers how to listen, not be "question shooters", bo be fiercely on the client's side. When clients told their stories, the only question Al would permit himself to ask was, "Oh?" We will not see his like again.

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SUN IN THE FIFTH HOUSE
"If you would create something, be something."

- Goethe

You're creative. Acting, painting, weaving, writing, lecturing, coloring Easter eggs and doodling on notepads come out of your ears and nostrils. You are the Pied Piper and can work miracles with children. You take the play apart in Darien and make it a hit on Broadway. You could learn to be a show-off and you should, for you're nothing until you love yourself. Grab the applause and live your life in a way that makes you proud. Then teach the rest of us how to love each other. You may have many lovers or a mate who is your pride and joy, but you must love.
Since you're such a big kid, you thrive in pleasure centers, resorts, pinball arcades, the social circuit, showbiz, and anywhere you can speculate, like the Stock Exchange, which is full of big baby brokers. Folks with this Sun position enjoy playing the child; if you find your close ties playing "parent" roles, do remember that you're here to be creative, not childish.
God stuck you here on earth to be sunny, dammit, to experience joy and give it out to the rest of us. The catch for you is that the human race, by and large, does not live in joy. You've got to do it at work, at home, in Calcutta, or on the subway. We need you, so hurry up and believe in your many talents. Sing us a song, give us a cuddle, cheer us up, love us.

SUN IN THE SIXTH HOUSE
"Genius is infinite painstaking."

- Henry Wordsworth Longfellow

Oh, nobly born, you have the most underrated and most misunderstood Sun position of them all. You deserve the Nobel Prize, but you're too dearly humble and hard at work to go looking for it. Give us a kiss!
You are the salt of the earth, a true idealist, here to make the world better right here and now. Work is your god. You don't use work as way of avoiding your family or so the Joneses will envy your new Mercedes - you work because you beleive in what you do with all your soul, and you do it better than anyone else. You put your ideals into practice every day. You want people to be healthy, to be educated, and to have enough to eat, and you can't rest until you've done your bit to improve the quality of life for humankind.
John Keats, John Lennon, Dr. Carl Jung, General Patton, and Alfred Hitchcock all had two things in common: they had a sixth house Sun and they worked like the devil. You can streamline a factory or make the perfect movie, fix Mrs. Castle's washing machine or teach first aide at the Y; and you can do more. Your talents are without limit. This worries you, because people with this Sun position are always looking for the perfect job, without realizing that they are the perfect job. The may change jobs often, but this a strength, not a weakness.
You'll never find the one occupation that sums you up any more than a beautiful woman finds the one dress to lie in all her life. You are Hanuman, the perfect servant of the Lord. Pat yourself on the back. You do a meticulous job wherever you go. Get vocational guidance if you're young or old, and realize that you're here to improve your surroundings. Great human beings are never satisfied.

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SUN IN THE SIXTH HOUSE
"Difficulties in negotiation do not occur because the parties misunderstand one another - difficulties arise because the parties understand one another all too well."

- Dr. Henry Kissenger

You're on an easy wicket if you pick the right people to hang out with if this is your Sun position. But if you choose the wrong mate or business partner you'll be pushing a boulder up the mountain, darling. Learn to draw th eline somewhere or you'll forever be pandering to other people's tastes. One man picked a weird yoga teacher and even gave one of his children a weird yoga name bedause he found out the guru was cruel and crooked.
You can persuade anyone to do anything, so you might as well be a diplomat, an interior designer, a general, or a dictator. You like a merry circus of people around you. It looks chaotic from the outside, but youi love stirring people up and calming them down. You excel in the one-to-one relationship, and you can have one-to-ones with three dozen people, and you prefer things that way. You're a social butterfly, and you must have a mate or an idea you're in love with or you can't feel fulfilled. You may be an artist; you are certainly an artist with other people.
Sigmund Freud, Patrick Henry, Bobby Kennedy, Adolf Hitler, and Charles Manson are famous examples of seventh housers. about all they have in common is powerful charisma and the ability to affect others deeply, changing other people's lives. Hitler and Manson might have had a better crack at expressing themselves had they learned in childhood how to form peer relationships, which is the work of the seventh house. You're not supposed to feel better than or lesser than other people. What you're here to do is to join with other people, to join people with ideas, or ideas with ideas. Like John Coltrane.
You're a super organizer, a political animal, and can be wildly popular. Like Diana's baby boy.

SUN IN THE EIGHTH HOUSE
" The thing was deep in him. He was too strong and alive for it to die lightly."

- F. Scott Fitzgerald

You eat crisis for breakfast. The afrorementioned F. Scott Fitzgerald, Galileo, John Glenn, Henry the Eighth, Helen Keller, Jack Kennedy, James Pike, Rachmaninoff, and both Rockefellers, John D. and Nelson, are eighth house Sun types. Some are tycoons, all are psychologists, soe have conquered Self, and all of them have power.
The houe of many talents, of Destiny, of Fate, of mysteries wonderous makes you feel alone. The eighth house is the house of self-reliance, the ability to stand alone with one's principles. Then the eighth house makes you give it all up to fully merge with Destiny. You blow it if you don't have a deep, one-to-one, fully committed relationship with one other person. The deep relationship is your Holy Grail. You attain by penetrating life's mysteries; two people merge for a time, then stand alone, merge, then stand alone. Each merging with the partner is a surrender to Something Up There, and you must do it, and develop self reliance to boot! What's more, it must be done again and gain with the same partner if it is to have any kind of depth. Sex is only one symbol of sharing emotions. You may handle other people's money or other people's lives. But it is you who has the power to change yourself and transform others.
Nelson Rockefeller had a loaded eighth house. He did inherit a few bob, but a true eighth houser he was, so he made his own merits and mistakes. The psychic Edgar Cayce was born here, too, in the rarest time for people to be born, when the sun is slanting sadly across park benches in late afternoon, when we contemplate our own mortality. The eighth gives intuition and a direct pipeline to the Infinite. Cayce was convinced of our immortality.

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SUN IN THE NINTH HOUSE
"Free will is not the liberty to do whatever one likes, but the power of doing whatever one sees ought to be done, even in the face of otherwise overwhelming impulse. There lies freedom, indeed."

- G. MacDonald

Two activities bring out the best in you: travel and mind expansion. Yo might even be happier living in a foreign country, if other factors in your horoscope indicate this. At least you will travel widely, and if you're broke or paralyzed, these circumstances won't stop you. You'll study the world from your armchair, and pretty soon the kids will start calling you professor. You're a grand teacher when you get going.
This Sun position could make you a lawyer, a talk-show host, a travel agent, a hippie, a diplomat, or the local sage. It will give you a big mouth, but a well-considered, educated one!
Not too many people are born this time of day; chances are you'll have some rare experiences not often encountered in everyday life. Your life and your mind may be richer for being rarer; most people are born between midnight and dawn.
You want to more from life than Joe Bloggs down the road. You'll take risks to get the things you want, and much of what you want can't be measured in pounds and pennies. What you really seek is the bird's-eye view, noticing the common thread that runs through varying peoples and cultures. Your mission in life is to study philosophy, religion, and ethics. You will probably eat a lot of foreign food and see a lot of weird stuff. Your job is to digest it all, then broadcast it back to us. We're waiting to hear about your discoveries in freedom.
Famous fearless ninth housers are Henry Miller, Nasser, Rudolph Nureyev (who leaped to freedom), Nostradamus, Princess Grace of Monaco, and Christine Jorgenson, the first transsexual.

SUN IN THE TENTH HOUSE
"It is not titles that reflect honor on men, but men on their titles."

- Machiavelli

I courted fame but as a spur to brave and honest deeds; who despises fame will soon renounce the virtues that deserve it."
- Mallet

You choose to live your life in a goldfish bowl. You're here to set an example to us, so you become the pillar of the community. The price you pay for this stardom is not so high - the only thing you pay is living your life as if a television camera were trained on you twenty-four hours a day. You feel as if Someone Up There is watching you. She is. All you have to do is find a noble career, grow a bigger, nobler personality than any career could contain you with, and act as if the whole world is watching.
You asked to be a big shot, sweetheart, and you'll enjoy every minute of it as long as you keep your actions exemplary. Tenth house Sun people (or any planets in the tenth house, for that matter) can't get away with nuthin'. (Typer's Edit: *10th House Mars, Jupiter, and NN sighs*). The gory details always leak out.
Don't be afraid to be the power you long to be. You're good at power if you had a sweet Mama. This is another loaded house for psychologists to explore; tenth house Sun folks have to overcome their identification with their mothers before they can go on to success. Success is your birthright. As the good old I Ching says, "Shine like the sign at midday." That's when you were born.
Famous examples of this larger-than-life, living-example-to-the-masses condition are Ivan the Terrible, Errol Flynn, Rose Kennedy, Janis Joplin, Nikita Krushchev, Martin Luther King, Van Gogh, and Napolean.
We'll use two of the more admirable tenth house Sun types for you to study. Number one is Ben Franklin, and number two is the ever-delicious philosopher/sage, Ram Dass.

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SUN IN THE ELEVENTH HOUSE
"A real friend is someone who sticks by you even when you become successful."

- Fortune Cookie

Dream big or die, that's you. You believe to the core that you're here to affect what goes on in your community. You can. You're a superb team player (with a bit of practice), and you're never happier than when you pool in with your friends on a big project. Friends mean the world to you, and sometimes you have a rough time of it just to find friends who match your specific ideals, but you must keep trying to find them. You're okay about your blood ties, but it's more of a challenge to you to love the people you adopt, who are like family to you. At times you may feel as if you're living in a commune. Sometimes eleventh housers do live in a commune, like Allan Noonan, the outer-space guru who communes with flying saucers. Eleventh housers aren't afraid to look into unorthodox subjects.
If you're a little twisted, you can let your heavy influential friends get the better of you. The trick here is to remember you're part of a group, neither better than or worse than others. Remember how unique you are...in fact, you've a rare ability to project a particular character oir image. In an actor or public figure, the ability to be recognized is an asset. Don't be fooled by your own stereotyped image - that public image can turn into a coffin that stifles your growing, changing personality if you let it. Sorround yourself with unique oddballs, and be one yourself - to the hilt. Whether you're a corporate boy or a member of a rock-'n'-roll band, you feel more like you in a crowd. Social skills are important, as you'll spend considerable time convincing others to go along with your schemes. Don't let those dreams slip away. Save those whales.
Some world-saving eleventh housers: Jackie Gleason, Billy Graham, John Hancock, Marshal Tito, Eleanor Roosevelt, Douglas MacArthur, Bob Hope, Marconi, and Spiro Agnew.

SUN IN THE TWELFTH HOUSE
"When joyously led, the people forget their burdens; in wrestling joyously with difficulties, they even forget that they must die. Joy's greatest quality is the encouragement it affords the people."

- I Ching, Blofeld edition

There is a wind in Germany they call the fuhrn. It is an ill, dry wind, and when it blows it makes you want to jump out of the windows and rip out the doors. I went to high school in the Furth, a gray, hideously provincial suberb of Nurnburg, and a more goddammed depressed burg you'd never want to see. In winter the fog rolls low, in lumps, coming down the street at you in early morning. Henry Kissenger was born there, and he was glad to get out of there, too. He was born with a twelfth house Sun. He have me his birth info so I could make sure.
This is an extraordinary Sun position, for it bestows great power and prevents you from fully using it. Dr. Kissenger could never become president of the United States because he was born overseas. Criminals, sages, and coo-coos have twelfth house suns. You'll find philosophers, rabbis, psychiatrists, and saints here, too.
Do you remember that old Twilight Zone one in which the guy gets captured by extra-terrestrial gorillas and they hvae a book called To Serve Man that no one can translate? The man thinks they're idealists and gets into the spaceship; at the last moment he discovers it's a cookbook. That's the predicament of the twelfth house Sun person. You get screwed unless you listen to the inner voice and help your fellow man. You don't feel like other people. It has you live in an eggshell, a spacesuit that subtly isolates you from other people. This isolation is a sign of specialness. No other Sun position is better equipped for helping people with their emotional problems. You can get inside another person's skin and visit for a little while. Lawrence Olivier's twelfth house Sun helped him become his characters.
Mao Tse-Tsug, Tchaikovsky, Steve McQueen, Audrey Hepburn, Henry Fonda, Havelock Ellis, Judy Garland, Robert Mitchum, William Randolph Hearst, Mahatma Ghandi...these are twelfth housers. It is a distinguishing characteristic of the twelfth house Sun person to believe that she is here to serve humanity. Of course, you don't have to agree with them, but that's how these people feel!
Don't let the old-fogey astrology books scare you with lines like "the twelfth house is the house of hospitals and self-undoing." Most of the folks born with this Sun position are as healthy as horses. You might want to work in a hospital or an institution, or you may just let your friends cry on your shoulder a lot.
The first chart is Jean MacArthur's, a highly gifted Washington, DC psychic. She preferred to live at the Watergate in nearby Alexandria, away from the distracting noise of the town. Her psychic abilities were well-verified by scientists, and her office was stewn with signed photos from people you and I would call Very Big Deals. Jean had a mile-long waiting list, but somehow she could always make time for the poor, the sick at heart, the man with no kidneys, the crippled girl who wanted a family.
The other chart is of a fireman, a handsome young buck from Philadelphia. It doesn't occur to him that he's a hero, though he's in the business of saving lives every day. He's just your ordinary, common-variety everyday saint, is all.

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THE MOON SIGNS & HOUSES

(..) The sign the Moon is in shows the style in which you need things. Moon in Aries, for example, wants everything NOW. You can't wait to have your needs fulfilled.
The house the Moon is in shows the kind of stuff you need in the world. Moon in the fifth house needs love, needs to be original and creative, and needs to be a little childish. If you have an eleventh house Moon and no friends, you're in trouble. You won't be able to fulfill your goals in life unless the emotional side of your life is satisfied first. (...)

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MOON IN ARIES, MOON IN THE FIRST HOUSE
Where's the fire? Aries Moon knows. Usually he's already there, a box of matches in one hand and a fire extinguisher in the other. He may have started that blaze himself, as it happens. He knows how to finish it, too, with firecrackers and exploding, bomb-bursting extravaganza. This Moon position loves trouble. The loftier types love to rescue folks in trouble. It's a Girl and Boy Scout Moon.
Hair-trigger reaction time makes this gang unique. In fact these guys feel that life itself is an emergency; they aim to get the everloving most out of every moment. No one is so ready to go to war for a Noble Cause - every one of them is a potential chivalrous soldier. And if you are lucky enough to be their friend, they will even fight a noble war for you...again and again.
Passion cooks in these people. Men with this Moon like their women hot and sassy, then invariable want to tame them. If the poor woman won't be tamed, the Aries Moon man stumbles about in a befogged state of exasperation; if he does manage to subdue her, he gets bored!
Aries Moon women are male chauvinists, too. They're surprised when you tell them they're competitive. According to one astrological sage, they secretly want the man to take charge while they shout, "No!" He's right. These women like to keep on a selection of male "buddies" to joke around with. They are deeply horrified when outsiders misconstrue these friendships, believing there's romance in them. This is the most naive Moon of the bunch. It's a Pollyanna Moon.
They are horrible listeners because they're always waiting to butt in with their tuppence worth. They need to learn that people will like them more if they SLOW DOWN and RESPOND to what you said before they go racing on to the next idea.
Aries Moon does hear you, though. They just think fast. They don't know they're being rude.
It's easy to sell them something if you remember that their deepest need is for you to like them. So just act as if you won't like them if they don't buy. They know you're just spooking them, but it rattles them just the same. They feel with their egos and live in the future; they're brave and restless and always have heroes and villains.
Restless, Lordy, are they restless. Egocentric? They are self-centered beyond belief. They take everything personally. Have them stand alone on a building top or let them brag about how cool they are when they feel blue. They'll soon be cheerful again.
Oh, the fire? They know its true location is in the heart.

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MOON IN TAURUS, MOON IN THE 2ND HOUSE
The second-best listeners of the zodiac. You can say absolutely anything. Beat on their chests and scream, "You brute! You brute!" - they take it all calmly and quietly. There is something about the way they listen, something solid, like talking to a brick wall.
If they are ever shocked, they don't show it much. Nothing in their manner has ever yet proved that they are shockable as far as I can see. They soothe you the way they listen.
Moon in Taurus folks handle Scorpios very well. They are great to go to for a good sob. They have shocking friends.
You can ruffle them, though. Take away their comforts and their money and their food. Let it bleed!
This is Reliable Roger, whom you can generally trust for a meal or a place to stay. They try to telephone around the time they said they would and have a good reason if they don't.
Common sense appeals to them, so sell them the practical side of what you are proposing. They need a base of operations or they're lost. Don't talk fancy to them. You are the man in the street, and you know they want results from what you are proposing. Give them a lot of information. Stress how much easier and more comfortable they will be when they feel more secure.
When they get bluesy they need to have their things around them. They go mad when their bodies aren't comfortable. They get attached to their stuff, and buying things cheers them up. They see the God in beautiful objects. If you're a guest in their house, try not to handle all their stuff. They hate that; it brings out the possessive streak in them.
Pry them out of the house with a can opener if you can. It is of little use getting them to come to you. Nearly always they, especially the older ones, want you to go to their house instead. One way to get them to come to you is if you send a car to pick them up and promise them a huge dinner. Mention the potatoes you're serving on the side. Taurus' symbol is not really a bull's head, it is a baked potato.
Most of them are money magnets. They learn quickly how to get it and how to hang onto it, too. Somehow they always have plenty, although it's not ever enough for them.
They need to sing and show off their good voices. Touching is an all important part of their life's pleasures. Cuddling is the other part.

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MOON IN GEMINI, MOON IN THE THIRD HOUSE
Omigawd, do they ever stop learning? This specimen does not merely understand media. They are little radios which jabber, jabber, jabber all day long. It's comforting mostly. Radios are handy to take along with you, and when you feel worn out, you can tune out for a bit. When you tune back in, there they are, chirping away at amazing speed, fierce and furious. They simply need to express themselves.
Is your jabberwocky pal depressed? Get your friend to talk about it. That's all these folks need to do; it makes them feel better straight away. Putting them in motion works. Pop them on a buss or a plane, or stick them in a car and drive round in different neighborhoods for awhile.
Want to sell them something, even yourself? Variety will get you everywhere. Change topics every ninety seconds, three minutes at most. If yours is a long spiel, pop in a wee item of unrelated trivia every so often. Their high-speed minds need those commercial breaks. Good talkers impress them. You have to be pretty good to keep up with them, and if you're not glib, kick back and listen. They won't even notice.
Gemini Moon people need a daily paper, telephone calls, magazines, a chat with the lady next door; they love to be known in their own neighborhood, and they get friendly fast with the local shopkeepers. They like the television set on, even with the sound turned off. The more aesthetic ones find comfort in non-stop music. Thy trash and thy trivia, it comforts them.
And what an ear for accents, buzz-words, and slang! They like to be up-to-date on the newest of everything.
How about their friends, then? Here we witness the famous "flexible value system." This Moon position shows a constantly expanding curiosity about how other people live their lives. It enables them to count among their friends priggish pastors, porn moviemakers, bankers, winos, saints, poodle breeders, the complete boiling range of human society. This ability to travel lightly amongst all walks of life is unique to them.
They take a risk, though. Some of the more superficial or unsavory values of their buddies may - and the usually do - rub off on them. They're flexible as oily eels, though, and they know to keep their traps shut when amongst their gangster buddies. This does not do a lot for their Spiritual Evolvement, but it does keep them out of concrete overcoats. Weirdo friends keep their lives piquant.
Teachers, talkers, and writers they are, every one of them. They come by it so naturally, they usually take these gifts for granted. It surprises them that these skills are so special.
Cruel gossips are numbered among this Moon position. They think they are merely being witty and interesting. Why then are they so cagey about telling you the minutiae of their own private lives?
They must learn to listen without adding their choicest bon mots to your story. They do have empathy, lots of it, for the other guy's predicament, but sometimes their harsh witticisms belie this. You can say one thing for them, though. They're never dull. And they will even befriend a bore if the bore has some free time and a car to ride in.

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MOON IN CANCER, MOON IN THE FOURTH HOUSE
Consider this wry tract from an advertisement in California:
"Do you enjoy petting your dog? Do you enjoy playing with your children? Do you have a marriage and not a "relationship"? Then you belong to the Dull Men's Club."
And they're swamped with requests from women wanting to join. So far no dice. Men only. Their happy motto is "Out of it and proud of it."
This here is a wonderful Moon position, the best listener in the zodiac. While a Taurus Moon will eventually try to hush you up, the Moon in Cancer native lets you cry and cry and then says sweet profound true things to you. Weep and they jump. They really care about people and spring to action fast when you're in distress. "I'll fix it up," they say, and they do.
They make excellent shrinks and parents because they let you be. Of course there's a catch. You have to belong to them.
Letting go is not their big virtue. Most of them have hang-ups that stem from childhood attachments to one of the parents. The men in particular seem to suffer more from this attachment, usually to the mother. God help any woman in a Cancer Moon's life if he had a rotten relationship with his mother! No one is meaner to his woman than a man with Moon in Cancer, and he won't let go of her, either. Do these men ever live to regret it!
Men with this Moon need to learn to stop being ashamed of their sentimental, clingy emotions. Both sexes are moody and wrestle with themselves to avoid becoming too babyish and needy. When they act too slushy, others can see them as drips. It's a fine line, but better slush than toughing it out with a crabby shell to protect the old emotions. Those emotions always get out somehow, anyway. Cancer Moon people have the best shot of the Moon signs at expressing their feelings, and they should.
It's a shame so many of them are rooted in habits and traditions from the past that prevent them from breaking free of fears into a happier state of being. They get so brainwashed in childhood that many exhibit an irrational, "Do it because I say so," mentality. A pity because they are the best equipped of all the moon signs to clean up their problems. They get their feelings hurt quickly, acutely and honestly - instant pain, and with help, instant release from pain. A little sensible help can relieve them from carrying around lifetimes of grief baggage.
The attachment to the old ways has to be broken consciously. Otherwise the women pout, and the men turn their wives into mothers.
I suppose they hang on to hurts because even the hurt is a part of the person they love, and their love runs deep. Love never dies for them, either, no matter how the beloved treats them.
Home and family mean the world to them. They need to belong somewhere. They need to have a safe feeling in their homes. Owning land makes them feel secure, too. Food or drink will always stabilize their wiggly feelings.
Before you feel too sorry for these tender, touchy folk, one caveat - they always set their lives up just the way they want them.
When selling to them, sell them security. They just hate to think of anyone being insecure. Just be yourself. It doesn't hurt to walk into their office tapping your white stick, though.

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MOON IN LEO, MOON IN THE FIFTH HOUSE
"There's something very naked about the bath water if you don't put bubbles in it," says the woman with the Moon in Leo.
Big baby Leo Moons got big baby needs. This baby need love, need attention, need respect, need applause, need human beings to laugh at their jokes. Big baby Leo Moon need never grow up, need lovely music, need lobster thermidor, need small parties, need favorite drinks to drink, need tall outrageous tales, need mate to wait on baby Moon when baby feel sick. Wait on hand and foot for baby Moon. Baby need to act pompous and aloof when pride hurt; big baby Leo Moon got lost of pride to get hurt. Need loyal pals go hell and back to show love for big baby Leo Moon. Big baby Leo Moon need all these things or baby curl up and die right now!!!
So, why isn't this Moon position crazy about kids?
CHORUS: Because they ARE kids!!!
Thank you. It is a dramatic Moon, you know. Regal, too. They have a way of inspiring needs in their subjects.
They like to keep a little distance at first. If someone wants to develop an intimacy, it develops slowly. They can and do it hit it off with people right away. Just be honest about yourself for anything you're trying to sell them. They can't abide tall tales. They tell a few themselves, you see. Hate to see it in other people.
When hard times come, do they ever know how to cheer themselves up! They don't exactly enjoy pain, but there's something almost sensual about melancholy. Life gets profound, then it's the world's problem. It's raining just for them. Then they do the I Ching, buy themselves a little something, eat alone in restaurants , whatever papers them and adds to the drama. They don't want strangers to know they're suffering - it's embarrassing. And they don't want pity from acquaintances! Sympathy from close friends is okay. But they won't talk about it unless you do.
The need for loyalty can work out a little strangely. A Leo Moon client, typically warm, loving and creative, told me about the last date she had with her lover. They were in bed.
"You know," she said prettily, "it doesn't really matter that you went to bed with somebody else."
"That's good," said her fellow. "Because I just spent the hole day making love with Evelyn."
My client sat up. "You know," she said prettily. "I was wrong."
She waited until he turned round; then she slugged him in the jaw.
Moon in Leo is chivalrous. It's not fair, she said, to hit him from behind.
She gathered up her clothes and went downstairs to the telephone, called her friend, a man who had wanted her for months; then she got dressed. By the time she got her shoes on, the taxi was waiting.
Her friend was waiting, too. Someone will always be waiting for this beautiful woman, for, like her Moon position, she is beautiful inside and out.

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MOON IN VIRGO, MOON IN THE SIXTH HOUSE
Ah, sweet obsession. You can tell me why these guys grind over every achin' detail until their cronies turn to stone.
They need to pick it all apart, every last iota. They can't move on until they do, or until something or someone kicks their ass and hollers, "Get OFF it!"
Don't do it too soon, though. They need to pick, pick, pick at the problems of daily life the way you or I pick at a nasty bit of needlepoint. And then Lo! the problem comes undone and the day saves itself.
Deep thinkers, these guys. They all love housework. It relieves them of the puritan work/guilt ethic that tells them they should always be doing something, and it frees their minds to do more thinking.
Oh, do they ever have secret disgusting habits! They'll never tell you what they are, of course, and perhaps they merely sniff the pits of their shirts and dresses before deciding whether or not to hang them back in the cupboard. Some of them, though, some of them, get caught up with grotty handkerchiefs or worse - like using the dishrag to wipe the kitchen floor, or collecting boogies on the side of the bedsheets. Rare, thank God.
The opposite extreme is just as annoying. They may empty the ashtrays on the half hour or not let you have a bite of their lasagna. Well now, they do hate germs. They are awfully good at losing the cap to the toothpaste, and it is this that lands them in Divorce Court.
This need to analyze calms them down. They prefer small cities and small towns, too. They need to look at a bit of green grass. If they seem freaked out to you, throw them in a bath and lay out some clean clothes. As soon as they've had their shower, they are ready for the Revolution.
Good luck with your sales pitch. Expect to make it more than once. Have all the details at hand. Let hem worry over it for a while. Come back and start again. Shoot the breeze a little, too. Stress the practical benefits. When you see that worried look on their faces and the shaking of their heads, they're about to say, "Maybe."
Work is a god to them, and they love it best. Don't worry, they'll love you best too as long as you've got some worries for them to help with. They need to help. At worst, they'll pick on you until you need help. Then they turn 180 degrees and start fixing you up again.
Hypochondria keeps them going to a ripe old age. There's a delicate awareness of their bodies, and this fine tuning responds well to chiropractors, masseurs, and pizza.
Let them have their precious little routines. Once they've lined up all the toothbrushes exactly right every morning, they're just like you and me.

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MOON IN LIBRA, MOON IN THE SEVENTH HOUSE
Most of all they need a mate. A best friend, business partner, or buddy will do. They spoil you with attention and are frighteningly dependant upon having someone to love.
The men devastate women because they understand their own refined "feminine" feelings. In fact, they seem to relate better to women than men. The women always have their pick of men; they seem to be able to present themselves in a fluffy, fascinated package. They are smart; they are soft, and they listen, listen, listen. This reminds me of Tom Wolfe's definition of what young ladies learn to do in finishing school: "Are you rilly an architect? Are you rilly a Senator?"
Oh, this gang picks up every subtle nuance of what you're talking about. Their radar is made of feathers. It's important to them to have a placid appearance, yet inside, a lot of the time, they feel hysterical. They feel as if their hearts are on springs. They not only react to you - they react to how you react.
These sweet people have only one vice: they make Minnie the Moocher look like a philanthropist. No other Moon sign matches this one's excellence at wheedling goodies out of you and making you think it was all your idea. You feel like a king when you pick up the check. And the next one. And the next one. They are successful where Moon in Capricorn fails - using people cleverly. They owe you a couple grand? You'd feel like a monster for bringing the subject up. Deep down they're secretly convinced that you should feel honored to have their company. Deeper down they're depressed and frightened at how much they need you; dependency is the desperate racket they run to keep you under their thumbs. It's called the Tyranny of the Weak, and if you're close to a Libra Moon person, you have no doubt heard of it.
Selling something? Dress well, lots of jewelry, too. Mention the big shots you know, hint at parties, but in an off-the-cuff, low-key manner. These guys love celebrities. In other cases you can stress the benefits of what you're selling to the rest of their families or associates. Libra Moons need to make other people happy. If you or your product is beautiful, it doesn't hurt, either.
Don't underrate this Moon sign when it comes to romance. They give you the best gift of all - themselves, wholeheartedly. They get stepped on for their kindnesses, so be kind and watch them blossom. They need compliments and flattery daily, but they give in return as well. They need compliments and flattery daily, but they give in return as well. They get to know you and tailor their praise to what they think you want to hear. They're right. Keep a Virgo, Capricorn, or a Scorpio around as a secondary sounding board or these Moons will softly lull you with a stream of adoring yesses. Sounds awful, doesn't it?
The line forms right here.

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MOON IN SCORPIO, MOON IN THE EIGHTH HOUSE
Next to a Capricorn Moon, Scorpio is traditionally presumed to be one of the more twisted Moons you can buy.
If being passionate, caring, profound, creative, and sexy is twisted, I'm ready to leap into the pretzel machine in the next sixty seconds. This may be a tough Moon sign, because the challenge is nothing less than mastery of the self.
Ach, and here's the rub! So many of us are threatened by displays of deep emotion that Scorpio Moons learn to hide their feelings when they are young. By the time they grow up, they've gotten good at hiding their reactions from you. What's unfortunate is that they have also learned to hide their reactions from themselves.
The men, especially, need a woman who's a bit of a psychologist, someone patient enough - and tough and fearless enough! - to help them to dig out the feelings they're so afraid to show.
The trickiest game they play boils down to a recurring, hidden script: "I dare you to guess what I need. I'll drag a red herring all over your path so you can't figure me out. And if you're not clever enough or caring enough to guess, I won't let you in."
Sometimes they use drugs, alcohol, or sneaky affairs to fool themselves that they are coping with themselves. Eventually their inherent intelligence decides to take over and in a swoop they give up their smoke-screen vices. You can't make them do it. But when they are ready, this Moon has the most courage and more will power than all the other signs put together. It isn't that they need courage to give up affairs or drugs or drink; it's the courage to look the fears in the face, fears that create need for vices.
They're fun to sell to. Let it be noble, let it be bizarre. Hang in tough, present your wares in a matter-of-fact manner. A take-it-or-leave-it stance seems to work the best. This Moon thinks it's John Wayne. He likes anyone who acts proud, talks tough, and walks tall.
You can tell these hip-shooters anything. They keep secrets.
Crisis is their favorite hobby. Give them some extreme situation, and they're in their element - Rocks of Gibraltar. They will create a crisis, or at least a burst into tears every so often, in order to release the steam that builds up inside. Police work, psychology, and rescue missions are all part of their talents.
Once they understand that they perceive even ordinary everyday occurrences as threats to their own authority, there is a chance of draining off some of the poisonous paranoia that plagues these frightened people. They need to feel in control so badly that they fail to see what's really going on. Then they strike out, cruelly, to let you know how badly you've hurt their feelings.
A day dawns when it occurs to them that it's okay to have vulnerable feelings and that sharing those feelings with someone you trust is the best protection against not getting hurt.
Until that day they live out their emotional days alone.

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MOON IN SAGITTARIUS, MOON IN THE NINTH HOUSE
That ol' debbil rubber Moon! God, you can do what you like to these soulful folks, but they'll always come bouncing back like boppo toys and praising your name to boot! Sock 'em in the jaw, pop them in their snot-box, and they just roll on back with that smile still on their faces.
We should all be so lucky to have this big-hearted Moon; it's a guarantee of deep reservoirs of faith and resilience. Who can keep them down? Who'd be mean enough to try, especially as these folks are so much fun to be around? They're not afraid to throw their money around, either, when they've got it. They love to be generous to other people, and in return they are surrounded by a crowd of chattering, devoted loonies.
And funny? They invented comedy - timing is their forte. After a couple of beers they'll start improvising, and they're damned good at it, too. It's no wonder they make friends fast and keep them a long time.
Drawbacks - well, there are a few. If something goes wrong, it's the other guy's problem. This Moon position is inclined to be a Grade A rationalization expert. They don't like things to, ah, get heavy. They're terrified of treadmills. As long as they feel they're on their way somewhere, they're okay. They dislike facing the truth about themselves and their childish refusal to act like responsible grown-ups. Let's just not look at that. What are you trying to do, spoil their fun? Let someone else carry the dull routine part of the work load. That's life after all - Scoobie-doobee-doo!
If there's a big problem, it makes sense to them to get their plimsoles on and scoot along to the next adventure. Some of them do. If they stay to work things through, it's usually because they have High-Minded Principles. This self-righteousness may bore you, but it's comforting to know that they care about doing The Right Thing. Being Right is their favorite pastime. They will tell you what's good for you before they've gotten to know the problem! This Moon position needs to preach.
They are better salesmen than you are, but they can never resist you if you ask for their advice. I have never met one Moon in this sign or house who did not have an evangelical streak. If they don't want your product, they'll help you find another customer. They don't live unless they give. Their feelers are in the future, and "keep on truckin" is their credo.
If your favorite clown's got the blues, get him into a religious or ethical argument. Philosophy cheers them up. Pass the hat and take up a collection to buy them a plane ticket somewhere. Even reading foreign newspapers cheers this lot up. Perhaps their reach exceeds their grasp, but they think people get a lot farther with that philosophy. It's exasperating to admit it, but they're right again.
They give good advice.

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MOON IN CAPRICORN, MOON IN THE TENTH HOUSE
When somebody with the Moon in Capricorn starts being especially nice to you, always ask yourself "What do they want?" Might as well ask what a rabid crocodile wants when he licks his chops. The answer is the same in both cases. He wants blood.
I know it's nasty, but that's how these people operate. You'll save yourself a lot of confusion if you define the terms of the relationship from the start. It's the ugliest Moon sign of the lot. This specimen believes that the world is such a harsh place that the means justify the ends - and if that means taking something away from you, even if you're more deserving, that's just tough.
The most hideous effect they have on other people is this using capacity. Only the Moon in Capricorn acts this way - any other plane or point in Capricorn is fine. Why are these Moons so twisted? Mostly you can trace a cold, childish, selfish mother figure. Sometimes Mother died when the child was young. These people never got decent values or adequate emotional nurturing when they were children. They have all lost their mothers in some way. Parents wanted them to push, push, push in society and never mind whose head you have to walk on to get at the Big Chance. Only when you become a Big Shot, says Mummy, will I love you. Is it any wonder so many successful people have Moon in Capricorn? And that the rest of the Capricorn Moons live desperate, fearful lives of isolation and failure? A Capricorn Moon may seem to be better at something than you are, but this isn't as likely as the cold fact that they want it worse than anyone. Adolf Hitler had this Moon.
Somewhere under that heart of cardboard is a conscience, though. Capricorn Moons always unconsciously set themselves up to get cracked right in the teeth by their nasty ambitious boomerangs. They always get clobbered badly, but you shouldn't hold your breath waiting. Stop them in their tracks before they rip too many people off, including you. They have a wide circle of "friends" (whom they secretly consider to be their inferiors) to whom they moan and groan about how depressing and hard life is. They don't have patience for your sad story, though - they might get sucked into your depression, and they've got better things to do!
Selling them is easy. Just find out what they want, and make them pay for it, like Mother did.
All right, there is another side to Moon in Capricorn. Those black-dog depressions lead to not a little profundity, even wisdom. If you don't mind waiting a couple of centuries for the buggers to trust you, they will reward you by acting loyal, hard-working, and responsible. They're not afraid to work.
These emotionally-guarded paranoids have a deep yearning for love, but they're not giving it away. You must earn it. When they fall in love, they give their hearts for life. Maybe their love goes deepest of all the signs, but they'd rather show it in material ways. They want your slush, but they'll be damned if they embarrass themselves showing their vulnerability...Chickens!!! Forgive them - 'twas the doing of Mommie Dearest.
Once in a while you find a sweetie with a Moon in Capricorn; then you can be sure you're dealing with what the young bores over at the Unification Church call an "Old Soul". Robert and Susan, you're okay sweethearts...but look out for the other, "Young Soul" types!
Abe Lincoln is the best example of Moon in Capricorn's most surprising and enduring trait - a dray, wry sense of humor. Someone in a crowd heckled Abe one time, calling him two-faced.
"I leave it to you," quipped Abe, our finest stand-up comic President. "If I had two faces, would I be wearing this one?"

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MOON IN AQUARIUS, MOON IN THE ELEVENTH HOUSE
The most unreasonable of "reasonable" people. These folks don't have blood in their veins, it's Xerox copy fluid. To say that the feelings do not run deep here would not be entirely accurate. They do have feelings, and they do run deep. Deep as the kitchen sink!
Call this a Mr. Spock Moon and leave it at that. They think feelings are supposed to be "logical". Check their ears for points on the tips.
They are great friends and need to have friends that they would do anything for. You can tell them anything, and they'll understand. They are utterly honest and trustworthy, fair, reasonable, and straightforward...getting bored?
Most of them are awfully bright. They can talk for long periods without using the personal pronoun "I," which is why they have so many friends. They love to hear about science, need gadgets, and have to have their own systems for doing things - their way.
Once in a blue moon they get hysterical, and then no one around them can figure quite what went wrong. This is Moon in Aquarius suddenly getting in touch with their personal feelings. It is quite a sight, and everyone rushes to help out. Moon in Aquarius likes this, and calms down around friends.
Dreams are what they need badly. They can happily live in, ah, eccentric surroundings if they have a Noble Rationale. Getting them to see how to get to this goal and not just talk about it is another thing. They love to talk and spin daydreams about the ideal world. The most beautiful side to this Moon is the need to make the world a better place, right here and now. They need to feel that all the people of the world are their brothers and sisters. The perverted Moon in Aquarius types are bigots, but they don't start out life that way.
If you have something to sell, approach them in a friendly, low-pressure manner. Soft sell is the only way to get these people to respond. If you can be funny, that's even better. They need quite a lot of weirdness and manage to have it one way or another. Emphasize your unique, even eccentric qualities, and don't pressure. Talk a lot about freedom. They love and need space. Don't get too personal at first. They regard it as a sign of bad breeding. A cool approach is best, and showing your brains never hurts.
The Moon in Aquarius gang aren't impressed by traditional male-female role models much. The women aren't much interested in cooking, and the men make a fairly good job of it. One couple I know, both with many planets in Aquarius including the Moon, keep a stack of paper plates in the kitchen, next to the plastic silverware. When they finish dinner, they just chuck the entire works away. Housework ain't their favorite hobby. They'd rather think and read.
Odd then, when you discover how irrationally loyal these folks can be. Cool and detached they may be, but they stick like glue to the people they love and respect. They stay in situations long past what others could handle and put up with - is it bravery or fear of intimacy?

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MOON IN PISCES, MOON IN THE TWELFTH HOUSE
They are wells. And like wells, they have everything to give. A well runs deep. Don't expect to fathom it entirely. These people are complicated. They have odd ways of isolating themselves from the mainstream of life. They are too psychic for anybody's good. So they take the phone off the hook once in a while. It's hell going out in the street when the world seems harsh. At these times they need an aide-de-camp just to accompany them. They're deeply frightened at such moments, but don't you be fooled. Underneath the fear is a curious bedrock courage. This is the flowing "water" sign Moon - water may be a drip, or it may be the mighty ocean, all-loving, sustainer of life.
People overlook this Moon's neuroses for a number of reasons; this Moon is sweet, sympathetic, and so damned good in bed. Oh, they can even be faithful in love if they have people to help and a Spiritual Goal and if you have lots of wigs and accents and imagination. And even then, at the peak of intimacy, they just float out into a private Disneyland and leave you with the body, while the soul has Gone Elsewhere. They're psychic, y'know. Tarot cards, astrology, the I Ching all appeal to them. They like to talk to God, but it's got to be private.
Don't you go grinding them down with your troubles and then take these kindly souls for granted. They get depressed after friend No. 92 has rung up with her difficulties. Let them wallow in self-pity a little. They need lots of sympathy when they're depressed, that and reassurance. Remember that well. Fill them back up with barrelsful of confidence. Their biggest enemy is self-doubt.
Call them the bleeding hearts of the zodiac. Scruple-free manipulators see them as suckers for a sob story. Snake-oil salesmen love them: all they do is twirl out a subtle and sad innuendo of inner torment and this Moon's hooked - or in love!
Would it surprise you to learn there is an extremely sneaky, downright tyrannical side to this Moon position?
"My Pisces Moon can't stand to see anyone suffering," says he, lurching out the door whilst you are in the middle of an asthma attack.
Do you know anybody who uses "sensitivity" to dominate the works? Ah, they're brokenhearted and can't be faithful! Oh, they're tired today and will you pick up a few things for them at the store? They rule the roost with their aches, pains, moans, groans, and alones. They just can't help themselves - so you go fetch!
Dare to gently enlighten them with a dab of common sense psychology. Hold the mirror of reality to them and they twist and cringe like vampire bats backing off from the light. The game they play is "Victim", yet most of these Moons yearn to break loose from their brain confusion. Tolerate their more charming weaknesses, and don't give them an inch if you see them slithering away from taking responsibility for their own lives. They like to blame Fate, or the Other Guy, for their troubles - they are terrified to think they control their destiny. Curiously, they're never ever depressed when they recognize their own bottomless strength and take charge. So throw a rope down that well and help them climb out.
These folks make the world soft for you and shower you with a million small kindnesses. If you're truly a strong person and do not mistake their kindness for weakness, treat them with the gentle handling they so richly deserve.

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THE RISING SIGN:
YOUR WORLD VIEW
AND THE WORLD'S VIEW OF YOU, TOO

"Beware, so long as you live, of judging men by their outward appearance."
-Jean de la Fontaine
Men in general judge more from appearances than from reality. All men have eyes, but few have the gift of penetration."
-Niccolo Machiavelli

Don't let the rising sign fool you. It's the first impression a person makes, all right, and appearances are frequently deceptive. Psychologists call it the persona; psychiatrists call it the defense mechanism. Think of it as an eggshell surrounding the human spirit; the rising sign describes what you look like, your body type, and what kinds of clothes look best on you.
What is your manner of meeting the world? The rising sign indicates your attitudes and styles of coping with people and things - it shows how you get by. No matter what you are feeling inside, your hopes, your desires, your hurts, your private quirks don't show until they pass through this sieve. If you're a giddy Gemini but your rising sign is Scorpio, you look like a Scorpio and act like a Scorpio. You don't chatter to strangers on the bus; you don't wear your favorite colors, green and yellow, because your Scorpio Ascendant won't let you. The Ascendant protects you at a cocktail party; people think you're mysterious. When they meet you at your home, they see the greens and yellows, and you talke their ears off. People take off their rising signs when they feel safe.
Yearning for the stuff of your Ascendant is healthy and typical. A Scorpio rising person thinks a good deal about sex, psychology, and will power. Libra rising persons scheme for beauty, harmony with nature and their environments. They die without other people; they must have a rich social life.
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People with conflict between the Sun and rising sign are more interesting characters; they generally have a lot more depth. You don't really get to know someone like this until you've met them at least five times; they show you a new facet of their personalities every day.
Disregard your first impressions when you meet people with conflicts between Sun and Ascendant. Take time to get to know them. If you have such a combination, you don't take people at face value, and you may need to polish up on your first impression technique.
Harmony between the Sun and the Ascendant means you have so little difficulty making a smooth first impression that you may not notice other people's social discomfort. It's easy for you to appear to be yourself.

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ARIES- Look for a walk with the head poked a couple of feet ahead of the body. They're Rams looking for trouble; the world's full of weaker people to rescue. Life's an adventure and a challenge; the challenge is mainly to keep people from telling them what to do. If you live near an Aries rising person, carry a "Don't Tread On Me" sign yourself. It's astonishing how blind are these innocent, wearm, friendly folk when it comes to stepping on your toes. They turn up, unannounced, to watch your television. They get to feel free and dashing after you've cooked the dinner. No wonder they like resuing weak people! It's the breavest rising sign in the world, though they don't even know it. The eminent astrolger Al. H. Morrison exhibited some of the nobler qualities of this Ascendant; anyone could dine with him. Rich or poor, high born or low, made no difference to him. He helped anyone in trouble and fiexed things fast. Self-sacrifice is the loveliest character trait of Aries rising; shooting off one's own ego whilst embarrassing others close to oneself is the ugliest.

TAURUS - Gentle beyond belief, these folks may seem boring on first impression. They're biding their time. They're slow to form an opinion about you, or anything else. You'd do well to take your time in sizing them up, however...they follow through on their promises. Look for a strong, compact, even stocky body built to take life's shocks. A bull neck for the gentlemen, swan neck for the ladies, and a rich, soothing radio announcer voice for both. They want comfort and security from life; this dominates their thoughts. Taurus rising makes a person look placid. This same person goes to pieces without money, and the more insecure types will do almost anything to get their hands on the filthy lucre. Gloria Vanderbilt has this Ascendant. Money's no problem for her. She uses her stubborn Taurus rising to bull her way through life with a strong set of values, which includes making her own living...who cares if the neighbors beef!

GEMINI - What a car salesman! this type can talk you into anything they want to. There's a bit of Irish in them, as there's a way with words here that dazzles on first impression. God made them kiss the Blarney Stone before placing them in the womb. They don't feel as light, charming, and witty inside as they seem, so watch their feelings. Look for the quick movements of a waiter as they go about their business. Often they have high foreheads to accomodate those slippery brains. The eyes have little twinkles in them. No one talks you so much to death, is so sensitive of your mental needs as Gemini rising. And they're funny - Phyllis Diller has this rising sign. The only drawback they socially adept spirits exhibit is their love of dancing. This is Ginger Roger's rising sign, but most of them dance like monkeys. Their world view is complicated. They feel like students of life, and the fellas have a little-boy complex. When danger threatens, they start talking their way out.

CANCER - If you're the fickle type, this sweetheart is for you. Cancer rising people are so moody that you get to see a different person every two and a quarter days, each time the moon changes signs. "Personable" doesn't sound like an exciting description, yet this is the quality of responding to others that gets the job interview won, the people calmed. Look for a ches bigger than the hips, a shambling walk, and sensitve skin that needs to stay out of the sun. Jayne Mansfield had this rising sign, as did Judy Garland. Each performer capitalized on different aspects of Cancer rising: Jayne with the famous Cancer chest, Judy with the ability to respond to the public and make them weep with empathy. All Cancer rising folks think food equals love, and even the wanderers have a home base they cannot bear to give up. The men and women think they are mothers to the world and are afraid to show how cuddly they are, but they are. Their most destructive habit is letting opportunities go by because they aren't in the mood. They are lunatics on the quiet.

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LEO - When this one walks into a rom, POW! You notice them straight away. Leo rising people have presence, and uncommonly good posture. Even the funny-looking ones have a noble carriage. It's not just the well-proportioned body, the prominent eyes, the wide open, symmetrical face, pretty hair, or the rubbable round head...they reek self-assurance and dignity. Whatever inner doubts cloud their minds won't show. Here is the person everyone wants to wear on their arms at a premiere-razzle! Behind the gracious bonhomie is a will of steel, and a surprising, cold attitude with their close pals and spouses. They think the world's an audience, you see; many of these folks are afraid of intimacy, but it won't show up until you get to know them better. Fortunately their world view encompasses a "look on the bright side" attitude; they do trust people, and a "try harder" attitude in though situations means they often win in no-win arenas. Kids love them. Leo rising people can turn your surly brat into Shirley Temple with a little razzle-dazzle. They wear out their opponents by turning up the drama knobs - no one cries louder, apologizes more profusely, and smiles more broadly than Leo rising.

VIRGO - Mary Mary Quite Contrary has this Ascendant. When they are good, they are very, very good, and when they are bad, they are horrid. The most meticulous dressers and the most disgusting slobs are the Virgo risings. They're terribly busy or slacking off when you first meet them; this is a rising sign of extremes. In truth, they go quite crazy if they don't feel they can be useful to the world; they will always find something to fix or fiddle with. Look for a pensive, worried expression, an oddly proportioned body, a quick walk, and a cool, rational, harshly intellectual first approach. Most Virgo rising people are slim from worrying - even the fat ones look slim from the back until you see the pot belly. Always learning something, they are great people to know if you're always getting into muddles with appliances or plain tickets or people. They'll spring right into action, take your problem apart, and put it together again. They prefer highly tailored clothes with lots of pockets, and the military look. They creat a classy intellectual first impression, laced with humility. Julie Andrews has it.

LIBRA - Even the ones who look like toads look like good-looking toads. The skin has an unearthly translucent quality, and there's often a bland, run-of-the-mill prettiness you see in the male and female models in television commercials. Real stunners, too, often have this rising sign, like Liz Taylor. Let a Libra ascending male tell the rest of the story:
"It's easy for me to switch on a sort of public relations charm," he says, "Especially when I want to manipulate somebody. Oddly enough, it's never entirely cynical or insincere. I usually feel that we are two nice people having a friendly chat even when I've blantantly lied to someone. Lying for me is almost always motivated by a desire to keep personal relationships harmonious. I have no scruples or qualms about that at all. If I lie for personal gain or to escape the consequences of something, I feel very bad about it. A friend of a friend some months ago lent me a book of cartoons. I saw him about a week ago and he asked me if I had like the cartoons. I said yes, although I in fact thought them vulgar and unfunny. The motive for lying was not wishing to seem unappreciative of his gesture in lending me the book - unsolicited by me." This good-looking guy wouldn't even hurt a stranger, let alone a friend.

SCORPIO (yeah, Scorp Rising *does the 'me'n'Jase are both cool' dance*) - Often there is a square jaw, quiet demeanor, and eyes that bore right through you. Theirs is a tough, jutting-out stance that says, "Don't mess with me." They take a while to get to trust you, and they puff up like adders if threatened. I'll bet you were so busy being frightened of them that you didn't notice how gaurded and paranoid they were! Helen Keller, Diane Von Furstenberg, Chris Evert-Lloyd, Eva Braun, and Gloria Steinem all have Scorpio rising, and the common thread running through the vastly different lives of these women is the power to inspire others with respect, even awe (or in Eva Braun's case, fear) and unbreakable will power. They're all obsessed with one-to-one relationships, whether it's sex, psychology, or power. Scorpio rising gives people sexy vibrations - you feel like brushing up against them. They give you a little buzz when they stroll by.

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SAGITARRIUS - Regardez le walk boppy, ze cheerful-little-earful smile, ze love of things foriegn. They walk as if they're wearing sneakers. There's a long, open face, clear eyes, a certain endearing clumsines when they knock over teacups. The nose is strong, long, and well-formed. Sagittarius rising folks are more generous, trusting, and lucky than the rest of us. These sickening optimists appeal to everyone because of their happy-go-lucky approach to life. This leads them to take risks, so they get away with traffic violations, delicate border crossings, and messy bank balances. If they coast on this luck too long, a subtle erosion of character can occur; too much "luck" isn't always lucky in the long haul. Recognizing this rising sign from from the chirpy, naive, hopeful way they spout grandiose plans - they'll change these plans the way other mortals change the sheets, but they have a wonderful way of many of their dreams come true. They love travel so passionately they frequently bump into things; they're accident-prone. They look so happy on the outside people forget to boost them up. It's Margaret Trudeau's rising sign. They can be a wee bit superficial.

CAPRICORN - Horrible posture, unless they work at it. There is usually a downcast look in the old goat's eye. Often these eyes were made beautiful through sadness; there was a tough, often downright rotten childhood they must rise beyond and forget. They played with the older kids and spent too much time with grown-ups. There's a big, beaky nose, a noticeable bump-bone on the wrist, pretty laugh lines around the mouth, and an annoying tendency to look more youthful and handsome with each passing year. Often they have funny, vulnerable way of walking. They're racked with feelings of inferiority, suffer from melancholia, and may even have black-dog depressions. You wonder how they get through life in such a shambles. They look best in formal clothes, conservative, dark colors, but they don't seem to care much how they look. So you relax, and these ambitious schemers leap ahead to get the top honors, the best jobs, and your girl. Serves your right for judging a book by its cover, says Capricorn rising. Ari Onassis, Jean Paul Getty, and Billie Jean King have Cappie rising. We all know who Clark Ken really is.

AQUARIUS - A cool, arm's length kind of first impression they make, though they do try to display their eccentricities so you won't be bored. They're the best friends you could ask for, as they're more loyal and not as detached as they want you to think. Social and spiritual issues motivate them. This might make them superior to say the Scorpio rising type, who runs on lust and desire. Then again, Aquarius rising can sacrifice you or another loved one to a Higher Principle faster than you can open a new box of Cheerios. They're awfully psychic, and they like to think of themselves as the weirdos of the group, though they prefer to associate with archconservative people; it makes them feel more daring. In truth, they are conventional in odd ways. Janis Joplin, Emmaline Pankhurst, Elisabeth Kubler-Ross, and Germain Greer all have Aqurius Rising. Look for funny legs, a square jaw, and fine, wide eyebrows arched like MacDonald's. It's an even face, like Libra's, though not usually as prettified. The eyeballs themselves are a strange, lopsided shape, which gives them the look of the lost children of Atlantis.

PISCES - Sweet and sour. Tender, brave, and cynical. It's a short body, inclined to un bon pointe. Their hair always looks invitingly mussed up, and here are the famous bedroom eyes of Raquel Welch and Princess Caroline of Monaco, both of whom have Pisces rising. These big, bloopy eyes rank with Cappie rising as the most gorgeous orbs of the zodiac. Pisces rising people look like fish-faces. These poetic, sneaky, imaginative, bright, dreamy, restless, sensitive people must be HIGHLY SELECTIVE in choosing environments jand people; they soak up everything that goes on around them. Fortunately most of them are intuitive, and their insight helps them avoid the sleaze. They can choose the wrong people and need to check the facts. They can be strong and brave enough to flow with God's plan; they can play victim and serve as ace martyrs; they're sharp con artists, too. It's all in how they choose. Some of them are so unworldly they will swish around the department store until you find them the exit...but they can save your life.

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Some occult teachers say that we return to using our rising sign when we have fulfilled the purpose of our Sun Signs. This usually does not occur until after the kids have grown and we've got time to muck about with nirvana. Then, say the sages, the Ascendant is your Ultimate Spiritual Path, and it has nothing to do with how you act at a cocktail party.

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There, all together for LLr's easy reference and reading pleasure.

Once again, as noted in the original threads:
These descriptions are from Debbi Kempton-Smith's ultra-groovy book, _Secrets From a Stargazer's Notebook_; not all of the info in the chapters has been included, and the info not shown is wonderfully informative and fun.

Buy her book, or request that your local library do so.

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Wow, Prox! That's a lot of typing! Thanks for doing that for us you fantabulous chickeepoo you!!

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