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Topic: unrequited love synastry
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pidaua Knowflake Posts: 67 From: Back in AZ with Bear the Leo Registered: Apr 2009
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posted December 15, 2003 11:39 AM
Astro Junkie, You and Mr. Taurus share the Mars opposition Saturn. His Mars in Cancer opposes your Mars in Capricorn. As far as you inquiring about yourself. One of the biggest issues I see may be that you need to get a handle on your emotions. You have an EXTREMELY emotional moon (both my parents and half my friends seem to have a cancer moon). You also have the "Relationship oriented but not too emotional Libra Sun". Air signs are not known for super emotional outbursts, a trait they share with the Earth signs. You have a naturally tense aspect with your Sun Square Moon: To break it down, you may want to reason (sun) within the relationship, yet your moon cries..me, me, me!!! Well, that is so typical Cancer moon - weepy, emotional and until the person can get a handle on it, will play the martyr - especially with a tense aspect. People that have a Cancer moon but also have a trine or sextile aspect with their Sun can handle it so much easier than the square. I think even fullmoonies have a great understanding of that powerful moon. Your Taurus has an Aquarius moon. As Lioneye says, that is like Xerox fluid running through their veins. Too much weepy emotion will scare the hell out of an Aqua moon. Any disply of instability or emotional outburts will make that aqua moon run for cover. Their nature is to intellectualize it, chew on it, get past it and leave you to say "Hey what about that". They have already processed it and dealt with it LOL...My Leo has an Aqua moon and when the emotions run hot, I give him space. Watching Uranus ruled Aqua residing in an emotionally ruled planet when stressed out is like standing next to a bonfire with a gasoline suit. You have to stand BACK. LOL
Since you do have a powerfully emotional moon, I would advise looking at your moon placement and aspects. You have the moon in your 3rd house, which may be why your posts are so passionate and urgent.
What stands out to me is your moon square mars in your own chart. It breaks down as such: Moon Square Mars The Moon square Mars indicates that there are some obstacles in the way of successful relationships for you. You resist making any adjustments to other people for fear they will take advantage of you if you seem to compromise. Your feelings are vulnerable because you are so sensitive; you are always defending yourself against threats that never materialize. To justify your uncalled-for emotional outbursts, you assert your right to use any necessary tactics to protect yourself. You are satisfied only when others give in to your lack of maturity and indulge your need to feel you have won when you have been challenged. If you can understand this problem, you can learn to be more compromising and derive benefits from meeting others halfway. It is important to maintain complete separation between your domestic and professional lives to avoid contaminating both of them. You are forceful in making demands of others, but you are not equally prepared to fulfill what is expected of you. Do you see that aspect in your relationships? I can see it in your posts. You constant demand for someone to SHOUT OUT TO YOU.. TO HEAR YOU.. TO RESPOND.
To some that may come across as a bit overwhelming. Moon Square Mercury The Moon square Mercury indicates that you have difficulty in making reasonable judgments, because your feelings are usually involved. It can be disturbing to find out later that your actions have shown incredible immaturity. You sometimes have difficulty in separating fact from fancy and may unfairly assume that people are criticizing you when this is not the case at all. Because of this, you may get involved in gross misunderstandings with people. Your problem is that you dwell to excess on yourself, for you are insecure and fearful that people will not appreciate you, no matter what you do. In a sense, you are self-centered; you need to devote as much time and concern to other people as to yourself. Try to direct your interests outside yourself. If you meet your challenges, you can relate to people more easily and look to the future with optimism. You communicate well with those close to you, because you do not feel insecure. It is quite different with strangers, though, for you feel threatened by them. This is why you do not make friends easily. You resent having to make adjustments or allowances for other people, preferring that they adjust to your particular frail and vulnerable personality. Moon Opposition Jupiter The Moon opposition Jupiter shows that you are a highly developed individual with much creative ability and a generous appreciation for the talents of others. You may sometimes question the importance of your own abilities, and for this reason you seek out people who are talented. You hope they will reassure you of your own competence. Generous to a fault, you can be deceived when you bestow your generosity on those who do not deserve it. You are benevolent toward people who seem to lack the advantages you have. It would seem appropriate to select an occupation in which you could help such people, perhaps through welfare work, rehabilitation of the handicapped, public relations, physical therapy, or through foundations that serve those in need. You give every potential companion the benefit of the doubt, overindulging their whims in order to win their affection. You are worth a lot more than that, and you should not make a commitment to anyone until his credibility is established. I know from experience that the Moon square Mercury can make it hard when trying to talk about emotions. It's like the mind is going faster than the mouth and the feelings can be hard to articulate. IP: Logged |
starflower Newflake Posts: 15 From: UK Registered: Apr 2009
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posted December 15, 2003 05:28 PM
So if a couple has both Venus trine Pluto and Mars trine pluto in synastry how would that work?I keep saying about this Sag who one minute is chasing me, I respond, then he just stops dead and acts like I dont exist. Then I ignore him or play it cool and suddenly he is all crazy for me again. We've spent almost a whole year doing this crazy back and forth dance, and Natashas observations about Venus/pluto aspects got me wondering. Is this relationship ever going to actually start? IP: Logged |
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posted December 15, 2003 10:17 PM
.gloria ------------------ it's better to light a candle than curse the darkness... IP: Logged |
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posted December 16, 2003 12:09 PM
Well the relationship started at least in the Sag's mind, that's his fun. Sags are really physical so have you tried doing physical things with him to really wear him out? Then his emotions will be more exposed.Take out snowshoeing for hours until he is exhausted and then stop at a resort for hot massages and drinks, after a day or two of this, he won't be going anywhere, ever, and you will be a Goddess in his eyes. That's pretty much a Sag perfect life, constant movement, hopefully with fat burning included, and then a hot toddy, hot tub and partner. He will perk up and the experience will last forever in his mind. Sags are highly sentimental about experiences like that. Natasha
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posted December 16, 2003 12:31 PM
Natasha tell me how to make my interest happy: He's got his Sun and Mars in Leo and Moon in Pisces and Venus in Virgo. He's extremely polite, and he has Mars square Saturn *gasp!!!!!!!!* I think he's got a Libra ascendant he's purrrtyIP: Logged |
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posted December 16, 2003 07:23 PM
With his Sun and Mars in Leo he may like to stay at home, or indoors and cuddle a lot. Once the cuddling is over, you can go out somewhere funny. Pisces moons like to laugh, maybe to a funny play, amusement park, bookstore with art supplies, so you can make cards for eachother.Play games with him, checkers, anything like that, he will get bored easily with TV. Make things for him rather than buying, Pisces moons have good expensive taste but you can make things that will spark his sentimental heart. Talk about his childhood and listen over coffee. Pisces moons love to talk about the mundane stuff in life. Look at Seinfield, Jerry has a Pisces moon. Venus in Virgo, loves good food, wine, long walks in romantic towns, driving around, kissing, lots of little kisses. Take him away for a romantic weekend but make sure he pays since Venus in Virgo can be frugal. Pick an inexpensive city like Quebec City, put him in front of a fire with lots of wine and a down comforter. Venus in Earth signs do not like to go out after dark, they want to stay in and be fussed over. Cut his hair, give him a hand massage, things like that. The pisces moon may make him more socially active but Venus in Earth likes others to do the directing. Cuddling is going to be big with that one, take massage lessons. Natasha Taurus/Sun IP: Logged |
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posted December 17, 2003 06:05 AM
Wow!!!!!!! thanks!! I heard that Mars in Leo likes to have his back stroked...so maybe you're right about the massage lessons!!! I would think he'd be more Leo like, but Leo's like to kiss a lot too right? Are there any compliments that really gets to a Leo? I know how to compliment Aquas and Gemini's and Libra's but I have NO idea what to say to a LeoIP: Logged |
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posted December 17, 2003 08:03 AM
I forgot to say he has his venus conjunct jupiterIP: Logged |
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posted December 17, 2003 12:56 PM
If you want to compliment a Leo, just look for something impressive about them, and mention it. It has to be a real compliment, not just lip service, or they'll feel like you're insulting thier intelligence. If he's handsome, tell him so. If he has a nice butt, tell him so. If he has a sexy phone voice, tell him so. The trick is, it has to be true, at least to you.IP: Logged |
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posted December 18, 2003 05:19 AM
If he has a pisces Moon and virgo Venus he likes quiet women right?IP: Logged |
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posted December 18, 2003 10:50 AM
Pisces moons are chatterboxes, but venus in virgo is quiet, I am not sure how that will work out, but I know Pisces moons can work on something for hours with you and be quiet if it's a hobby of theirs they enjoy. See how well he responds to different activities, if he wants quiet he will tell you by saying Huh? or SHHH! I have the moon in Cancer/8th house and I am chatty.My Venus in Virgo liked quiet, but he would tell me to SHHH and then give me a kiss. I would ask for a kiss each time he wanted to shush me, that was our signal and it worked. Natasha IP: Logged |
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posted December 18, 2003 11:26 AM
Moon square Neptune in Composite, what does that mean?IP: Logged |
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posted December 18, 2003 04:21 PM
Hmmm, well... my Venus is in Aquarius. And everyone (pretty much) in my age group's Pluto is in Scorpio. Does that mean that everytime I fall in love with someone in my age group it'll be unrequited? *Grins* Nah, I don't think so. Or atleast I hope not. Question though: my Sun trines my Pluto. What does that indicate?IP: Logged |
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posted December 19, 2003 04:04 PM
Natasha quote: Venus in Virgo, loves good food, wine, long walks in romantic towns, driving around, kissing, lots of little kisses. Take him away for a romantic weekend but make sure he pays since Venus in Virgo can be frugal. Pick an inexpensive city like Quebec City, put him in front of a fire with lots of wine and a down comforter. Venus in Earth signs do not like to go out after dark, they want to stay in and be fussed over.
I wonder how Venus in Virgo melds with Sun in Lbra/Moon in Capricorn? Any comments? Aen (Cappy, still feeling like under Air-attack, but not complaining anymore) 
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pidaua Knowflake Posts: 67 From: Back in AZ with Bear the Leo Registered: Apr 2009
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posted December 19, 2003 05:24 PM
Everlong, No, but you may be attracted to someone with the same square between their Venus and Pluto. For example, I find that even though my Venus in Sag squares my guys Pluto in Virgo, it also squares my own Pluto. In his case he has Venus in Gemini also squaring his Natal pluto and mine. So, the mutual aspect allows us to understand the other. Does that make sense? I have hard time with someone that has Venus in Virgo as far as a relationship, because it does conjunct my Pluto, but is also opposes my Mars, and Squares my Venus and Sun. IP: Logged |
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posted January 22, 2004 09:39 AM
I would like so hear some more on Venus square pluto, there must be good things about this aspect too?IP: Logged |
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posted January 22, 2004 09:50 AM
Hello Aen, I think Venus in Virgo would do very well with Sun in Libra, but it would depend on the house for the moon.Natasha IP: Logged |
pidaua Knowflake Posts: 67 From: Back in AZ with Bear the Leo Registered: Apr 2009
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posted January 22, 2004 11:15 AM
Hi AriesRocks, Do you mean in the context of synastry or in the individual chart? In an Natal Chart the aspects mean: Venus square Pluto A square forms between Venus and Pluto suggesting that your emotional life is subject to many problems. Many of these relate to sex. This aspect causes intense emotional and sexual involvements, and sometimes this can be with very debasing influences. In extreme cases, this aspect shows involvement with prostitution or other sex related crimes or rituals. Sexual passions are hard to control and properly direct, and romantic ties are in some way fated. It may be any benefit you receive is always accompanied with some negative side effect. What you want and seek is often not what you need, and obtaining the objective or object creates ill effects. Life is full of upheavals and upsets in domestic and professional affairs. There is a need to be more honest and less patronizing with people. Don't make promises unless you intend to keep them. This aspect must be controlled by the free will. www.astrology-numerology.com Your romances are usually karmic or predestined and you may have secret love affairs. Sexual passions may be so overwhelming they're difficult to control or properly direct. Psychological inhibitions may also prevent positive expression of your sexuality. These intense emotional and sexual relationships can have a debasing influence. Try to maintain high standards for yourself. Social conditions can interfere with your happiness and fulfillment. You can desire material wealth so much that you may marry for money or use sex to gain money. You make many demands on your partner and vice versa. You're always looking for the ideal love and/or career. You must learn to compromise. You can be very inspired and creative. Financial problems are due to risky over-investment. http://www.geocities.com/rbltre/astro/veaspl.html
In a Synastry Chart: This area is a bit tricky because there exists a branch of astrology that feels the outer planets or slower moving planets are not as important in dealing with love and romance: See below You will note that only the aspects formed by the personal planets (The Sun, Moon, Mercury, Venus and Mars) have been shown on these pages. These are the planets which are the "players" in a romantic connection. The slower moving planets have little to do with one-on-one connections. Also note that aspects formed with Neptune and Pluto have been excluded since these aspects tend to appear in comparison with everyone born at about the same time you were and have little to do with focused relationships. (Astrology-numerology.com) and http://www.horoscope-x-files.com/synastry/synastry-intro.htm I will see what I can find in regards to the pluto-venus aspect.
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posted January 22, 2004 08:42 PM
Hello!Haven't been here for a very long time so maybe no one remembers me..still I am such a perfect exemple of Venus Pluto opposition synastry..you know the never ending chase? taht can drive you up a looney wall? I also know what it's like to have mars opposite Saturn and but his mars conjucts my mars...oh and his mars and sun conjucts my pluto and since I'm scorpio ascendant thats' effective...what I have never really figured out is the who is after who ......unrequited love is shown by venus square pluto..who is unrequited ? venus because it's the fastest planet? same for vnus trine sun? but the venus would be the one attracted ? it being the fastes one again? the more I think I figure out the more I'm screwed!! And if anyone here remembers me...I'm glad to be back. IP: Logged |
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posted January 23, 2004 06:36 AM
I would like to know this also, which one os doing the chasing. Also, what does it mean when you have it in a composite chart?IP: Logged | |