posted February 12, 2004 12:47 PM              

Chiron has to do with suppressed pain that either of the two have been carrying around from their individual childhood experiences. The house locations indicate the type or focus of the experiences, while the aspects indicate how the individuals may trigger memories and behaviors related to those experiences by their actions.

posted February 12, 2004 01:11 PM              

In matters of love, the most important of the linkages are the four Romantic Linkages. There four linkages have their own special powers and add a little magic to the relationship of the linked persons. Of these, the Venus-Chiron linkage is the most powerful and beneficial of all.

The Venus-Chiron linkage is a Romantic Linkage. When it comes to relationships and especially marriages, this linkage is by far the most powerful individual linkage. The linkage creates desire (Venus) for marriage (Chiron) or the union (Venus) of spouses (Chiron). The Venus-Chiron linkage appears more often in married couples than any other linkage, including the three Sexual Linkages. For this reason, it is justifiable to call this linkage a marital linkage. However, the Venus-Chiron Linkage is also the most powerful and helpful one that two persons can have when it comes to affairs of money. For these reasons, in Magi Astrology, we refer to the Venus-Chiron Linkage as the MAGICAL LINKAGE because it seems to have something truly magical about it. Two people who have this linkage have a special bond and make great business, as well as marriage, partners.

from Magi Astrology: The Key to Success in Love and Money

The book goes on to explain other types of positive linkages involving Chiron, and discussing famous couple with them. I have seen it to be true, so I look for in now when I do synastry.

I will list the summary of linkages:

Sexual Linkages:

* Venus and Pluto
* Mars and Pluto
* Venus and Mars

Romantic Linkages:

* Venus and Chiron
* Jupiter and Chiron
* Chiron and Neptune (Lifetime Linkage)
* Venus and Neptune
* Sun and Venus (Cupid Linkage)

Cinderella Linkages:

* Venus and Chiron
* Jupiter and Chiron
* Chiron and Neptune

Linkage of Trust:

* Sun and Chiron

Cupid Linkage:

* Sun and Venus

I will not explain what the various linkages are, you can scout for them online at the Magi astrology sites or buy the book. Hope some of this helps

Love,
Carlo

posted February 12, 2004 01:36 PM              

So far, all I'm ready to say for sure that Chiron in Synastry would show how person A is either aggravating or "filling the void" of person B, and vise versa. Chiron is the "deep wound" that never seems to go away.

Also, if there are any bad relationship patterns where you continually get involved with a person who is BAD for you, AND/OR ones' EXPECTATIONS of the other person coming into your life to "heal the wound".

I don't rely on any of the traditional "aspect" interpretations used with other planetary bodies. I mainly look at how like-signs, or compatible elements would "fit" together, together with the focal points of each Natal.

The House placement is very important.

For example, in one real-life comparison I've been looking at, they both have Aries in Chiron. Person A in the 8th hs., Person B in the 3rd. If person A is a lousy speaker or communicator, Person B would not tolerate them.

Since Aries is very ME-based, if the other person somehow doesn't help heal the ME wound in the other, they will only make each other feel much worse. It would have to be a relationship where they both give equally, or there will be a lot of feelings of resentment.

If each person doesn't bring something to the table in relation to the other person's House placement, forget it!! Doesn't that make sense?

I would also think that since Aries is very prideful, they wouldn't really ADMIT to themselves or others they have that wound. So they may find themselves gravitating towards someone who may fill the void, but in a round-about way which is not obvious. Therefore, Chiron could point to "secret" or unspoken intentions.

It could also point to one's frustration in asking of the world what it is they need, but never seem to have fulfilled. In other words, with Chiron in Pisces, I don't think there would be such a fear of admitting the wound exists. So someone may wear their vulnerability on their sleeve, yet never attract the thing which will ultimately help them.

Another personal observation: I have Chiron in Pisces in the 10th. So I would not tolerate anyone who didn't have respect for wordly and universal topics. They have to take them VERY seriously, because I do.

For example, a Capricorn Virgo/Moon a-hole I dated didn't care what the moon looked like in the sky, or which star was a planet, etc. He said he couldn't care less what happened up there.

He actually turned out to be one of the most hurtful emotional experiences I ever had. It nearly destroyed me.

.gloria

posted February 13, 2004 11:47 AM              

Chiron represents our emotional/psychological wounds from the past, right? And who we are is, in part, a composition of our life experiences, right? Well, it is TRUE that we DO bring that baggage with us into every emotional interchange we're part of. So then wouldn't our Chiron placement and condition be extremely important in an emotional bond? I would think so, because it represents in what way our hearts have been battered and how we've learned to cope with that. That would have a HUGE bearing on a love relationship.

Furthering this chain of thought, if we're with a partner who agitates the pain described by our Chiron, we'll want to run away from them, but if we're with a partner who seems to understand it or soothe it in some way, we will stick to them like glue and thank our lucky stars to have found them. The soft aspects would have the emotional effect of a soothing, healing balm being massaged into our sore spots, while they hard aspects would feel more like being kicked in our sore spots.

Yes, based on this stream of thought, I would come to the conclusion that Chiron is indeed very important in love relationships.

I'm not sure about the magical power that the Maji society credits it with having, ie the magic formulas for marriage and all that stuff...seems a bit too simplistic for me, but hey, what the heck do I know?

posted February 13, 2004 09:17 PM              

Whether it's a tiny insect which lands on my lawn the same time each year, or a big manatee who comes to my coast at the same time. It doesn't matter...

If we base it on size, then why even consider Ceres, Juno, Pars, Eros, etc. Besides, if you place too much emphasis on size, you'll give the universe a complex.

.gloria

posted September 12, 2006 02:09 PM              

From my experience I can say it's not true..

My natal Chiron sextiles Sun/Moon and trines Jupiter/Mars/Neptune, and opposes Uranus with wide orb (7 deg.), and my partner's Chiron in his chart natally sextiles Jupiter and trines Venus, and also opposes Uranus with orb of 5 deg. So, natally we both have good Chiron aspects.

But: in our synastry, my Chiron opposes his Sun with orb of 2 degrees, and his Chiron squares my Sun with the same small orb, and also squares my Moon with orb of 4 deg. Believe me, Chiron matters are much felt in our relationship! Exactly like it's described - either healing or deeper wounding...

" Saturn especially is the one that has to be really looked at carefully. They even go as far to say as depending on the aspects (eg. what might be negative normally will be a good thing if the person is married or in a crummy relationship if you meet when Saturn is in a turbulent time, it would serve to be the catalyst that inclines the person to leave that marriage.)"

I can probably agree with that. The above mentioned man and I met in time when our relationships were on the rocks.. He experiences Saturn return, and transit Saturn opposes my natal Sun at the time.. His Saturn conjuncts my South node and trines my Venus, and my Saturn sextiles his Mars, trines his Mercury and opposes his Uranus.