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26taurus
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posted August 30, 2004 11:45 AM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
very interesting, what you all have to say about Chiron.

.....and thanks for posting these interpretaions astroj......

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posted August 30, 2004 03:29 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for lalalinda     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Right on A.J
Thank you

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DeenSam
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posted August 30, 2004 05:28 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Hey taurus,
Thanks so much for the information about chiron. My chiron is in pisces in the 11th house. Any feedback on that? If you find the time it would be appreciated.
Thanks again.
Dee

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astro junkie
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posted August 30, 2004 08:37 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
"Chiron in 11th House

Placement of Chiron here often gives deep connection to the psyche and the collective unconscious, but there are usually blocks to overcome. Here the wound is usually a sense of disconnection, distance, isolation and alieation from the world and from the Universe. This feeling of being unable to fit in may make us reject the tenets of groups or society, but the longing to belong remains.

Often, due to the sensitivity to the collective, people with this Chiron placement will be forward thinking and may be rejected by groups and society simply because they are ahead of their time - shades of 'discovery' here.
Try listing the special ways in which you are connected to life, to others, to the world and to the Universe. List the benefits and gifts of feeling alone, isolated and alienated. Also list the ways in which your 'differentness' is a gift and blessing to you and others. Write your thoughts and dreams in a journal.

Chiron's special gift to you is the development of an objective and original viewpoint towards life, and the realisation of the interconnectedness of all things. The acknowledgement of your unique gifts and individuality. Your right to be you."

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LeylaLeFay
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posted August 31, 2004 08:58 AM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Like PixelPixy, my Chiron is also in Aries in the Tenth house.

What might we have in common?

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DeenSam
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posted August 31, 2004 01:37 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Thanks A.J.!
some excellent questions To ask oneself. I have always felt ahead of my time. I can fit into some groups but I do identify with the feelings of isolation, even from my family.
Very insightful.
Thanks again,
Dee

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proxieme
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posted August 31, 2004 02:06 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Hey AJ -

How about Chiron in Taurus in the 7th?
How 'bout same sign, sixth house?

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posted August 31, 2004 02:54 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
"Chiron in Taurus

With Chiron in this placement, values and security are prominent issues in your life. You may feel that you have never been given enough - materially, emotionally, mentally or spiritually. Ultimately, your heart may feel neglected and undernourished leading to poor self-esteem. You may over-compensate this inner wound by accruing money and possessions, or clinging to people in the hopes that they can provide you with that missing sense of security. With Chiron here, you may also mistrust your body, feeling that it will let you down, or you may perceive that your body is not beautiful. There may be an injury or physical trauma that you find difficult to come to terms with, or you may have suffered pain through financial loss or financial insecurity.

Make a list of what you have received in your life, particularly from your parents and loved ones. Keep listing until you can acknowledge the abundance that the Universe has provided for you with sincere gratitude and love. Where you feel you have not been given your due, list the ways in which not receiving has helped you to acknowledge the true abundance that lies inside you - in your heart. Also, list out in two columns what you do and don't like about your body and for each list why. For each answer of 'why' look deeper and list the why of that, you will soon find that appearances are truly only skin deep -- your strength and beauty lie inside - -- in your heart.

The Gift of Chiron in Taurus or the 2nd house lies in the acknowledgement of the abundance of love that lies within your own heart................... the Universe provides. You were created in love to express love, and there is no end to that love."


"Chiron in 6th House

I believe that this is the natural placement of Chiron and as such manifests most powerfully.

Here, there is usually a deep need for healing and integration of the self due to a nagging sense of lack of wholeness. You may feel as though things are wrong with you that can never be fixed, never healed...that you are somehow imperfectly made. The link between emotions and physical health is unusually strong. Control and an inability to feel secure in delegation of responsibility is another issue to be dealt with. Exercise and dietary regimes may be rigidly ordered and adhered to, but no matter what seems to get fixed, you are not satisfied. Health and healing will be important matters, and in your search for self-healing you will be drawn to help others, and teach them to help themselves with what you have learned.

By honestly and sincerely listing the areas of yourself and your life in which you feel you are whole, healed, and integrated, and then listing the things that you think are not right with you, then, for each item on the list, note the ways in which it is helping you to evolve, grow and heal, you will come to realise a profound connection with all life.

Chiron's gift to you here lies in a deep understanding of healing. The acknowledgement of a Universal plan that goes beyond the limited earthly view - the unveiling of the perfection of existence that all things serve the divine plan."


"Chiron in 7th House

There is usually a feeling that you cannot relate to others properly - relationships seem to go wrong no matter how hard you try. Blame, or projection, mirroring and defensiveness are important issues for you to deal with, and the harmony and peace that you ardently desire seems to be constantly disrupted by others or yourself. You may fear that you will never find the 'right' person.

You will learn much through your relationships, and most particularly, the fact that your sense of individuality does not depend upon whether or not others like it. Your trials and tribulations will lead you to develop good counselling and arbiting skills.

To realise your own potentials here, try making a list - an honest appraisal if you will - of the 'positive' things that you have given others in relationships. Keep listing until your heart opens. For each of the perceived 'failures', list the benefits, lessons, gifts that resulted from them, for others and for yourself. For all the times when peace was disrupted, list the benefits to you and others when this was so. Also, make a short list of attributes of a perfect partner for you. Then, for each one, list the ways in which you have these attributes in you.

Chiron's gift here lies in the realisation that you are whole as you are, and an appreciation that independence and dependence are inseparable and always equally balanced."

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posted August 31, 2004 06:46 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
if someone would like to share their interps on my Chiron....would appreciate it much....

Chiron in Pisces/3rd House
trining Neptune/opposed Pluto and squaring the Asc/Dsc

thx,
Z

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astro junkie
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posted August 31, 2004 07:11 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
OK - Hold on - I just need to get my mind a little "cozy" before I fetch it. It's a gonna be COOOOOOZY in these here hills for a while - yes'am ...


"Chiron in Pisces

With this Chiron placement, we can be at odds with ourselves. The sign of the fishes depicts two fish (dualism) yoked together and swimming in opposite directions. Deception, emotional manipulation and genuine transcendental experiences can potentially weave together in confusion. Piscean sensitivity to undercurrents is an issue, and as a result, we can lose our individuality and can experience a wound of grief through a loss of faith in the Universe.

List the ways in which you feel that the Universe has betrayed you and then for each one list the ways in which these events or circumstances have served you or others. What lessons of love were given by it and learned through it? Everything in the Universe is an act of love - it is just that sometimes you don't recognise the form that love takes. Also, look at what you are doing in your life now, and list the ways in which the past 'betrayals' of the Universe have helped you to get there. There are no 'accidents' in life.

Chiron's gift here lies in your ability to acknowledge and re-embrace the of divinity, the guiding hand, the Master Plan. To open your heart once more to love and the Creator. To see that all things that happen in life serve to teach compassion and love."

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posted August 31, 2004 07:13 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
"Chiron in 3rd House

Often signposts a deep wound of feeling somehow less intelligent, and feelings of being unable to communicate clearly or effectively with others may dominate your thoughts at times. You may have suffered communication problems as a child, making memories of your early schooling painful.

You seem to strive to 'know' with ceaseless fervour. Something inside you is wishing to be heard and understood by others. With Chiron here, the mind can function quite naturally in an intuitive or associative manner - the childhood communication and learning 'problems' are often a mismatch of teaching methods to the student's needs.
Sit down and make a list of the areas in which you have great or deep knowledge. Do not accept 'I don't know' for an answer. Keep searching within, to find where your knowledge lies. Also, list those people from whom you learn. How does your knowledge in any given area serve others?

The Gift of Chiron in this placement is the deep pursuit of knowledge and the ability to impart that wisdom to others. The acknowledgement of your own 'Knowing' lies in your heart, beyond words. Deeds communicate more."

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posted August 31, 2004 07:16 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
As for the rest? You're in deep shyte just like me ... HEEEEEEhheeeeee

Sorry - it's just the ions in the air - HEEEEEEEEheeeeeee.

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posted August 31, 2004 07:18 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
And since I'm Chiron in Pisces in the 10th -

"Chiron in 10th House

Often manifests in a difficulty in setting and achieving goals, or finding our niche in society. There is also the possibility that we may be living up to parental expectations to achieve where they have failed - carrying other's burdens is often a theme, particularly that of the mother. Feelings of inadequacy and that you are not acknowledged for your true worth can also be issues.
If these themes are manifesting in your life, try listing the ways in which you are acknowledged and appreciated by others.

Also, make a list of what you believe your value is. Acknowledge your value. Then for each instance where you feel that you are not valued, recognised or heard, list the ways in which this has helped you to value, recognise and hear yourself.

Chiron's special gift here is the acknowledgement of your own value. To recognise yourself and where your gifts lie. To listen and hear the messages of your own heart, see your special place in the Universe, and to help others do the same."

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sthenri
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posted August 31, 2004 07:21 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Chiron linkages between people show a strong bond, according to some, chiron linkages are more romantic and have more marriage potential than other aspects.

I tend to agree.
Neptune aspects are about empathy, which is more about leaning on one another, Chiron is more of the soulmate variety.

Did I say soulmate!

Natasha

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LeylaLeFay
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posted September 02, 2004 08:27 AM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
What about Chiron in Aries?
Huh? Huh? Huh?

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scorpbaby
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posted September 02, 2004 10:11 AM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
The guy who I've been posting about, has Chiron in Taurus conjunct my Moon and North node!
Natasha, would you say that has soulmate potential?
The aspect also faces some oppositions w/ all the scorp planets so I dunno.

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posted September 02, 2004 12:25 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
"Chiron in Aries

The sense of self has been violated in some way, manifesting in feelings of worthlessness, and/or that nothing is ever quite good enough. The lessons of Chiron here are in learning to assert yourself and to take appropriate action or initiative to remedy the situation - appreciate yourself and others for who they are. Easier said than done, as you can tend to be self sabotaging in your thought patterns. Remember your thoughts are powerful - you reap what you put out.

Make a list of areas in your life in which you do feel worthy. Identify your true value and how that value serves you and others.
Don't stop listing until your heart opens to loving yourself. Also list the ways in which other's "bad" treatment of you has helped you to learn how to assert yourself and to value yourself more. Again, keep listing until your heart opens to them, and to yourself, for experiencing the lesson.

Chiron's gift is the acknowledgement of your true worth, loved for who you are inside. The Universe loves you just for being who you are. Strive to live truly."

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LibraSparkle
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posted September 02, 2004 12:59 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Both hubby and I have Chiron in Aries...

That rings a little true for me... but my whole life has been about learning that I am more valuable than others (in my childhood) treated me. This sorta has been the struggle of my life... and at some points, my self worth was dangerously nonexistent. It's all good now. And, most of that work I did on my own (well... with books and personal searching).

Hubby on the other hand had a kinda peaches and cream, Leave it to Beaver (with a drunk dad) kind of childhood. Of course the peaches and cream is only relative to MY childhood

He has struggled with this a lot. I think it rings the most truth for him.

BTW, I have it in the 12th, he in the 6th.

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posted September 02, 2004 01:54 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
It's interesting. I've seen a few charts with Chiron in Aries and, I guess if someone has some "insecure" planetary influences, it makes it that much worse. I don't mind working with a Taurus in Chiron so far. But, the Aries connects their subjective self-worth to their ego much more.

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posted September 02, 2004 02:40 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
What about chiron in the 1st house?

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astro junkie
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posted September 02, 2004 03:39 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
"Chiron in 1st House

The sense of self has been violated in some way, manifesting in feelings of worthlessness, and/or that nothing is ever quite good enough. The lessons of Chiron here are in learning to assert yourself and to take appropriate action or initiative to remedy the situation - appreciate yourself and others for who they are. Easier said than done, as you can tend to be self sabotaging in your thought patterns. Remember your thoughts are powerful - you reap what you put out.

Make a list of areas in your life in which you do feel worthy. Identify your true value and how that value serves you and others. Don't stop listing until your heart opens to loving yourself. Also list the ways in which other's "bad" treatment of you has helped you to learn how to assert yourself and to value yourself more. Again, keep listing until your heart opens to them, and to yourself, for experiencing the lesson.

Chiron's gift is the acknowledgement of your true worth, loved for who you are inside. The Universe loves you just for being who you are. Strive to live truly."

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LeylaLeFay
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posted September 03, 2004 12:48 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I can't find his Chiron! And it's not shown on his ASTRO.COM chart either. It's driving me nuts!

31 March 1978 local time 06:04 am
in Peterborough, ENG (UK)
Sorry this image is huge, I tried to resize it.

Here's a pick of him. Cute huh? He only looks like a teenager, he's twenty-six.

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noreenz
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posted September 03, 2004 02:41 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Hi L-

Ok, lets see if this posts:
http://www.astro.com/cgi/chart.cgi?nhor=49238376&nho2=427889&btyp=2&mth=gw&hsy=&zod=&sday=3&smon=9&syr=2004&rs=&orbp=&cid=yrxfilevu1FXv-u1080779892&lang=e&gm=a1&ast=

if not, using the set tables, I show his Chiron in Taurus 3.46, 1st house

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astro junkie
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posted September 03, 2004 05:44 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
astro.com does provide the Chiron by default. Can't figure out what'cha doin'.

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LeylaLeFay
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posted September 07, 2004 06:43 AM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Thanx guys! Yeah, Wow, I have to say, Chiron in Taurus in his First house makes sooo much sense!

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