posted September 04, 2004 02:04 AM              

Go look at it, and gaze at it's intriguing configurations and aspects for a bit. Now the questions (try to answer them without looking up interpretations of the aspects and placements up - they may mislead you. Just go with your own knowledge, common sense and intuition as much as you can):

1. There are three focal houses in this chart: 5th, 11th, and 12th. First look at the 12th house. What does this tell you?

2. Now look at the 11th house. What does that tell you?

3. Now look at the 5th. How would the activity in this house affect the 12th and 11th houses? (hint: those dotted green lines are quincunxes, and is a relatively stressful yet highly influential aspect, sort of liek a trine but closer to an opposition)

4. Look at the Uranus aspects. What do they tell you?

5. Look at the Pluto aspects. What do they tell you? (hint: also be attentive to the IC)

6. Look at the Saturn aspects. What do they tell you?

7. The asteriod Pallas influences our skills, natural talents, and intellectual curiosity. It also affects our perceptions about how we should apply these skills, talents, and curiosity, as well as our sense of morality concerning them. How could the placement of Pallas in this chart affect this individual? (note: Pallas is trined Sun and quincunx Pluto)

8. Bonus question! For anyone who remembers what I said early (a few times) about my conviction of how a configuration such as the one in this chart that includes Pluto, Neptune and Jupiter, influences a person, what might this configuration reveal about this individual? (hint: think of a playground see-saw)

posted September 04, 2004 12:33 PM              

I enjoy doing astrology exercises and stuff like this. When I clicked the link, the image as so small I could not make anything out. Also, even though I can be academic about astrology, just ask like one or two questions that don't seem too difficult. That way it doesn't seem so daunting at first. So hopefully I won't be reminded of how little I know about astrology! Hee hee ... don't give up, just dumb it up a little. It'll be fun.

.gloria

posted September 04, 2004 12:55 PM              

Hmm, I thought I did simplify it enough. I think a lot of peeps around here don't think they know as much as they really do about astrology. All I wanted was people to go, hmmm, well Pluto is squared Sun...that's probably not good. Or, moon is in the 11th house - probably friendships and social contacts are important to this person. That kind of thing. Nothing more complicated. Then just add it up, even if it seems vague or unspecific, and see if their intuition would hit paydirt (I think the chances are very good too - it looks daunting, but really it's not).

posted September 04, 2004 02:06 PM            

When I was taking astrology lessons, my teacher posted a chart for us and told us to look here and there, and told us our hint was that it was "someone in the Arts." So we stared at the chart and said, well, this aspect means he might be good at this and that aspect means he might be good at that...but she grew increasingly agitated when we couldn't figure out exactly who it was. But it's just too abstract. It was John Lennon, btw.

Looking at a chart is kinda like staring at someone's DNA. It's a representation of that person's potential energies, but it's not that person.

I'm not criticizing, GN. Not in the least. I think interpreting charts is a good exercise...so maybe if we look at it and you ask us what we think of it here and there...and then by revealing who it is, we'll know how well we did interpreting it.

posted September 04, 2004 02:22 PM              

And no, it's not Jolie. She is a Gem with Aries moon though, and of course famous and charismatic. But it's not her.

ANyhow, I decided to "dumb it down" (as AJ asked), and give you the "core" aspects that should clue you in to who this is or at least, what he/she is known for. (And i'll phrase it so you don't need to look at the chart...even though the chart is very intriguing.)

We need to look at just the Sun, Pluto, Neptune and Pallas. I'll give you all the necessary keywords:

Sun (planet of ego and self-identity) is in the 12th house (house of subconsciousness)

Pluto (planet of subconscious forces, death and rebirth, power) is in the 3rd house (house of comunication and higher mental activity) and conjunct IC (sensitive point in chart that represents home, protection and domestic security)

Neptune (planet of imagination, dreams and illusions) is in the 5th house (house of pleasure and physical activities)

Pallas (influences skills and intellectual curiosity) is in the 8th house (house of sex and death)

OK, now these planets/asteriod are all aspects to one another, more or less:

Sun is squared Pluto
Sun is trined Pallas
Sun is quincunx Neptune
Pluto is sextiled Neptune
Pluto is quincunx Pallas
Neptune is sextiled Pallas (not tightly)

In summary (if all these aspects are confusing), the Sun (ego) is in very difficult aspects with both Pluto (subconsciousness, power) and Neptune (imagination), and all three of these planets are being influenced by Pallas (skills, intellectual curiosity). Keep in mind the house placements.

Also, Pluto is in a stronger, more overt house (3rd) than the Sun (12th), so this squared is very hard on the Sun.

Lastly - and a huge hint - both Sun in the 12th house and Sun in Gemini can denote someone who is capable of appearing differently in different situation or can easily change their appearence or demeanor persausively. Since this chart has both, it is very likely this person was/is very much a "chameleon," so to speak.

Hope this is more assessible.

posted September 04, 2004 02:28 PM              

Of course, I'm not forcing anyone to give it a shot.

posted September 04, 2004 02:52 PM              

yeah, I know, I'm outta my leaque here, lol........It may surprise all of you that I really am a Newbie at this.....lol

posted September 04, 2004 03:18 PM              

dang it, wish I could devote more time to this, have company coming..........

posted September 04, 2004 05:29 PM              

I got to see the wheel when I right-clicked on lower right-hand side (Windows) and got the option to enlarge.

Here's where the planets are :::

Sun -Gemini
Moon - Aries
Mercury - Gemini
Venus - Taurus
Mars - Aries
Jupiter - Capricorn
Saturn - Capricorn
Uranus - Leo
Neptune - Scorp
Pluto - Virgo

NN - Virgo

Chiron - Pisces
Asc - Cancer
MC - Pisces

I wanted to say Elton John because of all his costumes, but I don't think his Moon is in Aries.

posted September 04, 2004 10:53 PM              

Uranus, planet of shocking & sudden "out of the blue" inspiration trines the moon (family, esp mother) & mars (aggressive action)

This person may have taken some drastic action to resolve some emotional turmoil regarding their family. I'm going to take a guess and say...Lizzie Borden. Not sure why I chose her specifically, other than the fact that nobody could concieve of the idea that she, a sweet, sensitive, soft-spoken girl could do such a thing as murder her parents with an AX. She kept a strong, diabolical side well hidden, perhaps even to herself, until it sprung out in full force....but, as the gemini sun, and 12th house sun would dictate, appeared to be someone entirely different, someone completely incapeable of such a thing. Jupiter, planet of luck, in the 7th, house, house of all 'Legal' matters, could have helped her to get away with it. It also probably powered up the IC Pluto, which was compelled to transform the home and family in a very powerful, plutonic manner.

posted September 05, 2004 02:20 PM              

event? biggest (recorded)earthquake in world history?