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Swerve
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posted September 12, 2004 08:25 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I re-read my post and i see it comes over as far more aggressive than I intended, so apologies to all there. I wouldn't presume to know your brother, but I just wonder if it realy is "over-sensitivity" or merely a different perspective.

I was talking in general terms that I moved to from your brothers' specific situation without clarifying this, which was another oversight on my part. Just like people to realise how fragile a growing Scorpio Moon can be inside, and the majority of their overwhelming feelings tend to come from not feeling understood or fully able to express what they believe to be the truth.

So, sorry "3 is the magic number" once again.


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pixelpixie
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posted September 12, 2004 08:55 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for pixelpixie     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
My almost ten year old son has a Scorpio Moon, not to mention also a Scorpio Venus, Jupiter, Pluto and True Node.
He is a good little guy. Very very sensitive.. sights, sounds, feelings, physical and emotional. He needs... requires... comfort, both emotionally and physically in order to stay steady. Otherwise, all you will hear about is "this tag is itchy" "this mosquito bite kills" "Claire said such and such" Blah blah blah. He is really particular about things. His Scorp Moon is so different from his Sag Sun. (and Aries rising) He will say something blunt, always talking- but if he offends, which inevitably happens, you can see the deep empathy in his sensitive eyes. If he isn't listening or I am at my wits end and yell at him ( after repeated attempts to pacify in other ways) you can see how it affects him. Mostly me.. rarely can someone else reach him so deeply. Immediately, his eyes well up, he gets red faced with emotion.. the teary kind. He battles his ten year old need for cool with his disapproving mommy. I hate that reaction. Usually I back off and explain to him why I yelled, apologize for my reaction, hug him and thank him for being so sensitive. It is a good thing. But it is hard to stay unaffected. Everyone gets angry. There are always reasons. He understands that too. Hmmmm. I think he needed a Scorpio mom. So here I am.
In terms of Scorp Moons having hard to handle moms, I don't think I am hard to handle. I certainly am not the best one in the world, I see where I can improve.. but I think the difference lies in 'seeing where I can improve'. If I were so bad, I wouldn't really see that, would I?

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astro junkie
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posted September 13, 2004 12:25 AM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
It's like how you were saying, he DID need a Scorpio mom, so, he should learn his astrological ABC's as soon as possible. All that Scorpio? Wow. He probably needs to feel like he belongs in "the group", that he can be resourceful and part of something important. He'd probably be great with science too.

But as far as that mom thing, if you were my mom when I was a kid, I would never forgive you if you did something hurtful towards me and did not apologize to me. That can make all the difference, and since he's an evolved Scorpio type, he may experience a wonderful synchronicity.

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pixelpixie
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posted September 13, 2004 12:55 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for pixelpixie     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Hee hee......
I was *just* saying to my husband something similar......
I asked him.. "Do you think we have such a rewarding sex life because we thank each other for um.... *services rendered*.?
We are appreciative and don't take it for granted?"

Like we'll stop and say thank you to the clerk at the store for giving us the proper change (well, at least I do..) and not think to thank the partner who just gave you incredible pleasure?
Do people thank others for 'a good night'?
I always have.
Same thing with apologies. I won't walk away from something when one is needed. It's the final bow to being present-ly human. We all lose it, there are always legitimate reasons.. but if you have overstepped, be strong enough to admit your folly, nothing to do with pride.. it has to do with being an honourable human being with feelings.
I always appreciate an apology AND a thank you.
For good or bad stuff.
Either way, you go to sleep with a smile on.

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astro junkie
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posted September 13, 2004 02:13 AM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Oh yeah -

Like, a long time ago, I heard about this marriage between two rather socialite people, and even though they had been married for decades, they still spoke to each other with incredibly formal respect. I think that's beautiful.

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3 Is A Magic Number
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posted September 14, 2004 04:58 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Swerve,
I understand how easy it is to take things the wrong way when they are written down so thats okay, its no problem on my part.

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iAmThat
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posted September 14, 2004 08:13 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Hi,
I have a moon in scorpio. If I love someone they certainly become the object of my affection. I never get bored with that person. All that the person needs to do is relax and enjoy the shower of my love


Stehnhil if they are obsessed with work, which is very true, then it could mean that they are ignoring you.

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ScotScorp
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posted September 15, 2004 10:14 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
My brother is a Virgo Sun/Scorpio Moon/Libra Asc.
I am a Scorpio/Leo/Leo, and since I am learning how all of the aspects and planets come together to make us who we uniquely are, I'm going to try to be somewhat general.
My brother is obsessive-compulsive about cleaniness (everyone knows.. he broadcasts it!), organized so anally it's not funny, and asks me questions that a "sister" should be asking me... "Do I look okay w/this belt/shirt tucked in/etc.?" "Is my hair too short/too long?" etc.... I refer to him as my "sister"... It's funny how sensitive he is to the "girfriend" possibilities in his life, but yet he will sucker any friend or family member into doing things his way. And he'll tell you he's going to screw you over.

Several people have asked me if he's gay.. he's definately metrosexual.

He does a merry chase w/the women that he's interested in. Rarely comes out and asks them pointblank about anything. He usually over analyzes their actions w/whoever he can corner to ask. "She asked me about the weather... do you think she likes me?"

Ugh. Drives me crazy.

Angela

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astro junkie
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posted September 15, 2004 11:57 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Hmmmm ...

A Virgo with a Scorpio Moon sounds like fun. Gwen Stefani is a Libra with Cancer Moon, Venus in Virgo like me, and her hubby is a Scorpio with a Virgo Moon. I've never met these types though. I may be hanging out with a more earthy kind of crowd, although I'll break out! ... if I need to ...
But for now, nature will do.

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sthenri
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posted September 17, 2004 04:23 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Yes but does anyone know a Scorpio moon man who is happy in a relationship? It seems nothing is ever good enough, as in there must be something, better, more, bigger out there. I am starting to think Scorpio moon males, are not always looking for the chase, the excitement, the drama, and what is enough in terms of what is the ideal woman for a Scorpio moon male? Do these men idealize women to the point where no real woman is good enough?

Thanks,
Natasha
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Tuesday
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posted September 17, 2004 05:23 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I think you have a point, Natasha. I know a Libra man with Scorpio moon who goes through girlfriend after girlfriend after girlfriend. Of course I suspect this is because he's gay and can't come to terms with it (even gay men flirt with him all the time!) but the principle applies. I also knew an Aries with Scorp. moon who seemed to expect more than I could give. When I tried to make him happy, and I would have done almost anything, he wouldn't accept it. He always had to be in control as well.

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SLC777
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posted October 16, 2004 11:40 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I've had many Scorpio moon friends (being a Scorp/cancer rising), including a major love interest who was a Scorp moon (and Pisces sun). They are among the most compassionate people I know- they have been people with whom I've felt comfortable being vulnerable ... I have always been able to show them my weaker/darker sides without fear of rejection or judgment. They are the friends with whom I've been through the most... Challenging friendships with Scorp moons, highs and lows, that's for sure... but deep, - and ultimately very reliable and protective bonds. I particularly enjoy Virgos and Pisces who have Scorp moons.

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cazimiphoenix
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posted October 17, 2004 05:10 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Scorpio Sun males, so long as they don't also have a Scorpio moon (or maybe a Cap moon), don't contend with the simple paradox a Scorpio moon male struggles against. A man's moon is a strong indicator of the type of female he is interested in. Having a Scorpio moon inclines one to intensely strong, resilient women. Keep in mind that my venus is also conjunct Sun Pluto and Saturn all in the 8th house, so I'm very biased towards this interpretation.

I subconsciously (moon) gauge a woman's resilience by her withstanding my control... so long as she doesn't give in, I respect her. As soon as she gives in... (the vast majority of women do eventually)... I detest her for it. Yes, it's equally maddening for me as well because the whole matter is emotionally ingrained and will therefore never bow down to logic or willpower. It doesn't happen consciously... It's a FEELING... and suppressing it makes it stronger. Carolyn Reynolds summed it up perfectly in Book of Lovers... where she advised others as to how to handle my combo of sun/moon... "Please remember to keep your independence. He will despise you for allowing him to possess and dominate you. Which is what he thinks he wants to do. It is not. He admires strength and substance."

A Scorpio Sun might never want to disown the control he is conscious of... But a Scorpio Moon instinctively provokes his partner into battle in order to be reassured of his partner's strength.

Eddie Murphy (Scorpio Moon) in his "Raw" standup mentions how once a man makes a woman reach the most intense orgasm she could possibly have... she will forever submit to anything the man puts her through.

So in such recurring scenarios, suddenly... the strong, resilient woman that initially attracted the Scorpio moon male has melted away and she's no longer his ideal woman. She's a weak slave to lust.

No surprise that some Scorpio moon males resort to same sex relationships... if for nothing else... another male is more liable to match or surpass at least the physical strength of the first. Two males can easier consent to fight each other... but a male and a female tearing at each other (not necessarily physically) = HAVOC... with every class of intervening third party doing their best to keep them apart.

... I personally skip from ambitious girl to girl (all focused on something greater than a relationship) loving them as loyal friends that cherish my compassion... as I'm obsessed with my own work and waiting for the day I am too old to fight with a woman who is at her sexual prime... so that I may settle down with my Annette Bening at an old age... (Beatty= Scorpio moon)

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Mystic Gemini
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posted September 29, 2005 03:49 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
[QUPTE]I know a gay Scorpio moon male and he does not see his mother much, he says they get along but she has too many expectations of him. I think she still thinks he's straight too. [/QUOTE]


I no one who is always with his mother. Loves the lady to death.


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taurean_scorpion
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posted September 29, 2005 05:00 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
obsessed.

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SecretGardenAgain
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posted September 29, 2005 05:27 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
quote:
My brother is a Libra Sun, Scorpio Moon, and Gemini Asc

3 thats funny coz im a Gem sun/Scorpio Moon/Libra Asc not too far off huh... plus venus ruler of chart is in seventh so i appear even more Libran than i am usually


being a Scorp moon myself but not a guy, and thus def not gay (:laughing , i think scorp moons can be very difficult...we are inherently suspicious, overly independent, stubborn, and always upset emotionally in some way or another. even brief euphoric stages pass quickly because the somber emotions in the backdrop eat out the happiness.... i learned pretty late but still in my childhood that my mother didnt really sympathize with my state and that no one at home really understands. i am super perceptive and feel i have many gifts, all unappreciated. because of this i can become somewhat of a hermit . this does NOT equate to a weakness...or mental illness...it is a unique personality trait...i am truly a loner and an introvert regardless of that gem stellium having fun in the 9th. when times get tough i dont share anything with anyone. period. it disturbs me to allow people into the private intrigues of my life.

ive also had v rocky relationships...usually get dumped or dump em myself...there is a pursuit for understanding of our soul and excitement, the two things dont seem to come together without bringing major chaos.

we can be obsessed with work YES.

obsessive! obsessive! say that word 10 times.

i have to be the best at work and school. have to. if i start something and realize im not the best then i drop it and do something else at which i am much better. i dont take rejection easily. i believe i shud be a champ. call it an ego yes.

so far as gay/bi/etc i am none of the above. lotsa masculine planets in my chart, even prominent venus is in masculine aries, i love men. i can see eye to eye with them on so many issues.

on the other hand we can understand any kind of depression, anxiety, paranoia, obsession that anyone goes thru. i believe us scorp moons are incredible listeners and empathizers...not to mention that u can confide ANYTHING in us becoz it wont make us bat a lash. we've done most of the horrid things in the world ourselves--so that other shocking things on other ppls parts may not shock us at all.

I believe Gem nymph once said that Gemini and Scorpio are the most diabolical signs. yes its true. Being a Gem/scorp nothing phases me....even though i am not into morbid and horrible things and havent killed anyone yet yet there is a v dark side that no one gets to know.

Love
SG

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geminirising26
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posted September 29, 2005 05:32 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
"And Taurus is more down to earth, like a painting of a landscape."

I think that is the most poetic things anyone has said about an astrological placement....


For real! :-)

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Sweet Like Acid
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posted September 29, 2005 09:12 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
My father's moon is in scorpio lol and as far as I know he's not gay. He does tend to overwork himself tho.

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Mystic Gemini
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posted September 29, 2005 09:33 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
The new scorpio I like has his moon and sun in scorpio. Definitely over works himself alot. When we first spoke on the phone I noticed he was talking alot about his mother. I thought this guy is probably vey close to her.


That night he gave me his birth data and I checked his chart. It said he's a workaholic and that he has a very close relationship with his mother.


I have the feeling she might be a cancer.

When I told him I was a gemini/cancer he said oh your a cusp. He then said he loved cancers.


He has a very sweet and gentle way of talking. Maybe it's his mercury in Libra.


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(¸.·´ (¸.·´ * Lost in the peace of serenity
Blind my eyes I cannot see
Lost my soul but found my heart
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Peaceout_candy
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posted October 01, 2005 06:36 AM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
The thing that really bothers me about having a scorpio moon sign is that im very very emotional and possesive. The fact that my sun is in pisces just makes me even more emotional. But the good thing about having a moon in scorpio, we kinda radiate strength.. u know, in a quiet sort a way.

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posted October 01, 2005 07:52 AM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I know quite a lot of scorpio moons. I've found that quite a few of them swing both ways and almost all of the rest of them have at least thought about it. One female scorp moon I know though is quite disgusted by the very though of homosexuality and thinks its wrong. I think that's because scorp moons can be quite black and white things.
Its sad that you missing this guy, couldn't you still be friends, or is it an all or nothing thing? The thing (i find) with scorp moons that makes them so hard to forget is that although its very wearing when they are plumbing their depths or yours its quite rare and quite nice for someone to be willing to go as deep as they possibly can. But they sometimes tie themselves up in knots. The best thing to do with them when they are all churned up and emotional is to be steady and serene and listen and let them know that you are there. All very subtly of course. They give the impression that they are invincible, and if you were to overtly try and help them then it would offend thier pride. The best tack is just to talk things through with them (if you can get them to open up) and give your views but make sure you tell them that you know that THEY will work it out for themsleves in the end. This will send them the message that you have faith in them, and faith that things will be okay. they need this more than anything as thier ability to face all those ugly realities in life mean that its something they often lack.

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sue g
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posted October 01, 2005 07:54 AM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Oh God Mystic......I hope he isnt gonna be the husband......workaholic and very close to his mother....maybe a big problem for your moon/venus in taurus...

and dont you have bad experiences with Scorpios.......he has sun AND moon there.......mmmm.......

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sue g
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posted October 01, 2005 07:59 AM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Sadly....all my experiences of Scorpio moons are negative ones....the most recent being the guy in the pub who almost battered another guy. His moon obviously wasnt up for my Scorpio sun coz he backed down... when I challenged......but he is a very nasty person...he is full of hate and self pity....he does a lot of drugs too.....and takes his anger out on others.....not nice....he scares people away!!

Funnily enough the only person I feel at odds with here at LL has a Scorpio moon (I think).......

Love to all


Sue G xxx

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Mystic Gemini
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posted October 01, 2005 09:00 AM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
His mother lives on his block LOL.


So do his brothers. Very family oriented man.

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Gemini sun, Cancer rising, mercury in Gemini, moon in Taurus *29, venus in Taurus, mars in Libra

*´¨)
¸.·´¸.·*´¨) ¸.·*¨)
(¸.·´ (¸.·´ * Lost in the peace of serenity
Blind my eyes I cannot see
Lost my soul but found my heart
Again a time, when I shall start

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posted October 01, 2005 11:29 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for nove731     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote

Doesn't know his mother. She died when he was two. I only wish he were gay.

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