posted December 28, 2015 02:08 PM            

I have yet to meet a Libra woman that was not a total PHONEY!!! ( I'm sure there are plenty of sweet libra women out there , so don't take that the wrong way)

There was one I THOUGHT was different...I tried to see past years of inconsistencies, the backbiting, the wishy washy behavior..and then the turned it all around on me!! It was like she had an arsenal of ridiculous nonsense that she "perceived" i did to her intentionally! That was when I realized how fake she was, and cut her off.. I don't roll that way. Fool me once shame on you, Fool me twice, shame on me!!

posted December 28, 2015 03:50 PM            

I've never met a person (face to face, and usually on the net--the rare exceptions being those I couldn't get a good feel for so that I'm not sure what the problem was) who despised Libra who didn't deserved to be despised by Libra for blatant dishonesty, arbitrary unfairness in their daily life, and a constant attempt to emotionally manipulate Libra (and usually everyone else) in selfish ways. Interesting enough, some of these types deserving of Libra contempt can't imagine any other way to manipulate people and believe Libra is doing the same, that is they think Libra isn't trying to be fair (to self and others) but is seeking pity (as the accuser does so often, as the accuser wants to manipulate others to get their way unfairly, and may be shocked when this tactic doesn't work on Libra when they read a description and figured they found a spineless sucker--after all, being diplomatic is "weak" in their minds--that they could play like their favorite instrument only to discover Libra is a cardinal sign, and diplomats can wield a big stick, or a gavel in the case of Judge Judy).

Though one other misunderstanding to come up (which often refers to Libra being referred to as "fake") is that many assume any type of relationship to be an alliance against others, so when Libra is friendly (or even romantically involved) but doesn't automatically take their side in disputes (as Libra tries to see things from the POV of others and render a fair, impartial judgment--of course that's easier said than done) then that person views Libra as fake, flighty, fickle, and even backstabbing.

posted December 28, 2015 05:32 PM            

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Originally posted by DreamCatcher:
I have to be honest:

I have yet to meet a Libra woman that was not a total PHONEY!!! ( I'm sure there are plenty of sweet libra women out there , so don't take that the wrong way)

There was one I THOUGHT was different...I tried to see past years of inconsistencies, the backbiting, the wishy washy behavior..and then the turned it all around on me!! It was like she had an arsenal of ridiculous nonsense that she "perceived" i did to her intentionally! That was when I realized how fake she was, and cut her off.. I don't roll that way. Fool me once shame on you, Fool me twice, shame on me!!

The underlying factor, as pointed out by a friend of mine: underlying jealousy issues. Which, I realize , she has with every woman.

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I had a friend like that once. A Libra. I'm a Libra too.

I think the scenario you're describing is an insecurity-fueled thing. Insecurity is insecurity. Whether you're a Libra gone bad or a Taurus gone rogue. However, I will add that - you should look to the moon aspects for jealousies/female insecurities and mars for (underhanded) actions. Insecurity + a passive-aggressive mars = backbiting while playing the victim.

posted December 28, 2015 05:39 PM            

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Originally posted by PixieJane:

(if I know their chart I can usually find something to explain it, like the one Libra who had A LOT of Scorpio in her chart where the fixed and vengeful energy mixed with her cardinal Libra sun in toxic ways)

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*cough* Damn. That's me. I gots a lotta Scorpio. And an 8th house Sun, Merc, Mars to boot.

posted December 28, 2015 07:22 PM            

The Scorpio heavy Libra I knew came from a very traumatic background, which did not help. I think some of the media she was raised on (and the assumptions it trains the mind to think in) also made the energy go bad.

There are good and bad expressions, but these are potentials. To put it in super simplistic (too simplistic, but I don't feel like making an essay), it's like a coin that can land on heads or tails. A Scorpio can be a spider/scorpion or an eagle/phoenix, for example. Linda Goodman even went into raising children according to their sun sign (and mentioning other aspects to keep in mind) to help bring out the best and mitigate the worst, which shows she at least considered the element of free will and material circumstances to be important along with the natal chart. I do believe had the toxic Libra in that case grew up better or had some lucky breaks, that she'd have been very different...but her Scorpio never could forgive the many deep hurts inflicted on her, and her Libra could never stop demanding justice mixed with Scorpio vengeance, and unfortunately she had a tendency to go after the people around her since she couldn't do anything about the people who hurt her, and she could get really psychotic about it at times. But it's more than just her natal chart, it's everything.

I think for Libra to find peace, we have to accept that life isn't fair (though that doesn't mean to abandon the ideal, just like accepting that life is messy doesn't mean that we should therefore roll in filth and abandon cleanliness), and for Scorpio it's learning to let go and rise above rather than punish and control (thus becoming a phoenix)...that toxic Libra with a lot of Scorpio failed to do both.

posted December 29, 2015 09:04 AM            

Btw, that sunshine statement - I was beng sarcastic. I actually have to make a conscious choice to be positive, takes work. I have some of those tendencies you talked about.

One of the ways I keep 'em in check is to sit tight and let Karma do the rest. Instead of actively seeking vengeance. More often than not, this works. What goes around, comes around. Sooner or later.

I have some Piscean influences which make me forgive too much for the wrong people. And on the other hand, sometimes I've been vindictive in the wrong situation. Both tendencies in battle. But I let a ton of things slide before I go all Darth Vendetta on someone.