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Lauren Leigh
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posted December 28, 2004 12:33 AM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I have been lurking around this forum for a bit and have observed that many of you are quite knowledgeable on a wide variety of things, so being a novice at astrology (for now anyway, hehe)I am curious as to what you all have heard/read about concerning this particular Sun/Asc combination. Any offered information will definitely be appreciated as I have scoured the internet (though perhaps not in the right places) and have come up empty handed.

Thank you in advance

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apollo861
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posted December 28, 2004 12:45 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for apollo861     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
This is from astrolkids.com
Not too sure about it though.


The Sun is in Leo and the Ascendant is Scorpio: This makes for a combination of rather fierce Fire and rather deep Water. This almost sultry combination will be entirely fascinating. In many ways the Leo Sun wears their heart on their sleeve whilst the Scorpio Ascendant almost hides their light under a bushel. Leo is an open book. Scorpio is decidedly closed.

Both signs are passionate. In many ways, this combination is a little like a glorious sunset. The Leo emits the feeling of warmth –the Scorpio effect hints of colours so vivid that they we can only imagine. But to grab the depth of the complete picture is simply not possible.

This powerful personality will see this kid as leader of the pack. There will be loads of ideas, a colourful imagination and a whole lot of common sense. There will be an answer for everything – but do not expect drawn-out explanations as to how an answer was reached. A keyword for Leo is pride – a keyword for Scorpio is private. So, this child will pride itself on being an enigma. But this little one is affectionate and likes to be acknowledged and praised. The self sufficient attitude does need sustenance. Jealousy and possessiveness can creep in this personality is not made to feel "good".

When the teenager years roll on in - watch this space... Sex appeal will be potent.

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posted December 28, 2004 12:59 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for pixelpixie     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Oh, that's a nice description!
And it it reversed for me, (Scorp Sun/Leo rising) so I like it!

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Lauren Leigh
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posted December 28, 2004 01:08 AM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Apollo861, that was the only one I found concerning this Sun/Asc combo but I'm curious, why are you uncertain about it?

Pixelpixie have you or do you feel more like a Leo or a Scorpio as time goes by? I remember when I was younger I was very Leo like (the pussycat Leo type anyway) and as I get older I feel a bit more like Scorpio.

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posted December 28, 2004 01:16 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for apollo861     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I was not too sure about it because the description of mine(Asc Sag, Sun Can) was wrong for me. Then again, it could be influenced by aspects, planets in the first house, house rulership...

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Lauren Leigh
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posted December 28, 2004 01:33 AM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Ahh yes, the generalization. I hate that Though I suppose it is in some ways necessary....

Also in my searches of the net I've found this Scorpio site with loads of articles etc and I believe there is also a section for scorpio rising but I can't quite locate it right now (am getting a bit sleepy) so incase there are other signs out there with Scorpio rising one might want to take a look. www.scorpiosite69.freeserve.co.uk

My apologies if the site has been drudged up before

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posted December 28, 2004 12:17 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Apollo861 -

What a great description on such an odd pairing of strong influences (Sun/Asc). Wow - it IS an enigma by default!

I've got to say, I must have a bit of this "contradiction" in my Chart as well. Could this be why I constantly feel like a star caught in a black hole?

I have Mercury, Mars & Neptune in Scorpio, but a North Node in Leo.

(My Saturn in Capricorn Opposing my Moon in Cancer can make progress seem painfully SLOWWWW)

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posted January 09, 2005 08:37 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for jwhop     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Scorpio Rising Women
Relationship Signs....Linda Goodman

Theme...Where there's a will, there's a way

Sensuous, alluring, mysterious, she is the predator of the zodiac. She's not afraid of life or death and therefore the most exotic man in the room won't phase her. She'll go after what she wants from life with the strategy of a general, the daring of a skydiver. If, upon meeting her, she doesn't lock eyes with you, chances are that you, even at your most enticing best, won't get to first base. She's the steam from fire and ice, the allure of musk, the sexual chemist. She has the power to take you to the depths of despair and send you soaring back to ecstasy. She can read your mind, leave you in a sexual stupor, solicit your secrets, and yet you may not know her past, her friends, her family. She doesn't invite you over for roast dinners, or to sleep on cotton sheets. She is love potions, smoked oysters, and the fur rugs before crackling fires. She is screaming fights and stupendous lovemaking. When she mates she wants it to be for life. She'll stop at nothing to defend you, to honor you, and to stand by you. Infidelities on your part are simply out of the question. While she has the strongest endurance of the Rising Signs, your involvement with another woman may leave her shattered and nearly beyond repair. Temporarily. She'll recover, mumble curses about your grave, and rise again. Her willpower is a magnificent thing.

Scorpio Rising Men
Relationship Signs....Linda Goodman

Theme...I can do anything I put my mind to

There is no point in mincing words. This man is strong willed. He's turbulent and volatile. He's also commanding and astute. he can excel in business where a take control personality is needed. His intensity is shown in his line of work. He is attracted to danger and excels in investigative, political, religious or medical careers. He's not timid in his choice of work. He can soar to the heights or fall to the depths, depending on how involved he is and what his goals are. A sturdy friend, he's not the kind you classify as a buddy. He doesn't pal around and spends much time alone. But he'll always remember a kind deed. He's best at building and rebuilding, whether it's his business, his relationships, or his list of things to master. Perhaps one of his strongest abilities to rebuild is shown in his recuperative powers. He can bounce back from years of abusing his health, a major accident or an illness as if by pure willpower. And more than anything else, willpower is his key word. Detonating bombs won't scare him. Losing the object of his affections, however, is frightening and can lead to melancholy, brooding and compulsive, obsessive behavior. His powers of persuasion with you are amazing. All your common sense is dissolved. Does he hypnotize you as you sleep? In your lucid moments you actually wonder how he can have such a hold on you. He prefers to dominate and control, even if only for a short time, even if the control is benevolent. When he concentrates on the woman of his choice, it is total. He'll plan romantic days for you. If he misses work to take you sailing for lunch, so be it. He'll schedule your days and evenings so tightly you won't have time to sleep. The planets are in the process of changing him now, and he's more cautious and somewhat more leery than usual. Can he be faithful? Yes. Can he make money? Yes. Can he fulfill your every dream? Yes. But only if he wants to.

Leo Sun/Scorp Rising
Aggressive Fixed Intensity

When I knew nothing about astrology, I read the description of the Leo personality in Linda Goodman's Sun Signs. She depicted Leo as a laid back pussycat whose bark is worse than their bite....maybe it should have been their roar is worse than their bite I thought she was way off the mark. I read a little further and she said...unless they are Scorpio rising, which I knew nothing about either.

Some would think people with this combination might be conflicted, their real nature Leo, being at odds and square with the personality they present to the world. Surprisingly, Leo and Scorpio Suns are mostly on the same page. Show them a situation and they will most often come to the same conclusions. The fight will be over who is in charge That is not a problem when this combination in contained in the same person. This person is aggressive and the aggressive natures of Leo and Scorpio are magnified by this pairing...just for starters. If there are other Leo or Scorpio planets in their chart, or Aries in a prominent location, like Mars, that's a magnification of their aggressive nature as well. If their Leo Sun is in a late degree, 20* or higher, they are also an Aries/Leo and if their Scorp rising is in a low degree, 0-10, they are pure undiluted Scorp in their Rising sign. All these factors weight towards an aggressive nature. This combination will bite, scratch, rip, fold, spindle and mutilate under certain conditions and there probably won't be much or any roaring or warning...other than a look and perhaps a "what did you say?" For women, deliberate insults probably mean you're off her Christmas Card list...permanently and every other list too. But if you threaten her, her family and especially her children, you will see the fires of hell in her eyes...buckle up.

From what I know, this is an all or nothing at all personality...no half measures or half anything else. They like or dislike with intensity. The things which interest them, really interest them. For the rest, it might as well not exist.

If there is a chink in their armor, it's in the area of love relationships where they expect loyalty, fidelity and stability. You will fly very high in their sky and nothing is too good for you but if you ever betray them, plan to make a very large crater when you fall out of their sky...and you will fall, immediately. If they are in a love relationship, it's fixed and settled in their minds. Introducing doubts about the relationship, i.e., playing games with them is not likely to be accepted well. In fact, once it's settled, raising doubts in their minds might mean you only see their back as they walk away from you. This is not the suspicious Scorp personality. In fact Leo Sun/Scorp Rising is pretty trusting. Jar that trust and you will knock them off kilter...you will also pay a price so be sure the end of the relationship is what you want...very sure. If you wound them in this area, the decision as to what happens to the relationship will be made...by them and it's probably fini. If they cannot trust you, there is little likelihood they will have anything further to do with you. The same applies to business relationships and friendships too.

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Lauren Leigh
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posted January 09, 2005 08:50 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Thank you very much jwhop! Very helpful! I appreciate the info, anything to make my chart a little more clear

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jwhop
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posted January 09, 2005 09:09 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for jwhop     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
You're welcome Lauren Leigh but it's only helpful if it relates to you and you can see those tendencies in yourself...even if they are mostly suppressed or latent. There is always the possibility of mistakes when only Sun, only Asc or only Sun and Asc are considered. There are many things in a chart which mitigate for or against a pattern of reaction to stimuli. We're only looking at 2 energies here, even if they are strong energies.

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Lauren Leigh
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posted January 09, 2005 10:44 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
jwhop, what you say is true, it is important to consider the rest of the chart when doing a reading but I was just curious about this particular aspect by itself as I haven't found many other Leos with Scorpio rising (Though I'm sure they're out there!) There isn't much material (that I've been able to locate anyway) on the net about this combination so any little bit that I can get has my attention...I was told I had an 'interesting' chart and I thought this might be one of the 'interesting' aspects of it.

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ScotScorp
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posted January 09, 2005 11:05 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Wow! I'm the opposite as well. (Just chummin' w/PP!)

I tend to feel that I am ALWAYS feeling like a Scorpio, as a child and as an adult, but that Leo rising attracts people and I cannot get away from it. Drives my Scorpio soul crazy, not as much now as it used to when I was a teenager.

Lauren-Are people attracted to your personality, even perfect strangers?

Angela


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Lauren Leigh
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posted January 09, 2005 11:37 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Angela - Yes it seems they are! It's weird and it freaks me out sometimes. When I was in high school it happened alot, people who I didn't know very well AT ALL (especially since I had just moved to a state)and a few strangers approached me and were very friendly towards me, as if we had been best friends for years. One girl even felt so comfortable as to start braiding my hair as I was standing in line! That was just strange...

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Secret Garden
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posted January 10, 2005 12:19 AM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Some moderator, Im having probs posting on the 'Wish you were someone else' thread started by Natasha
Any idea why thats happening, is it just my comp?
Thanks

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Secret Garden
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posted January 10, 2005 12:23 AM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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26taurus
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posted January 10, 2005 01:22 AM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
All set now Secret. Got it all figured out in another thread.

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moonbaby
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i get that a lot lauren, people coming up to me and feeling real comfy. but i have no signs in scorpio...apart from my jupiter, which i gather is a generational thang.

its my face. i just got me one of those faces that makes me look like everyone! everyone in the family says i look like one person or another. apparently i look like brandy, erika badu....err, a black version of helena christensen. HELLO!!these people could not look more different from each other if they tried.

But thats the face i got.
people wave at me all the time thinking i'm someone else and only the other day a lady came up to me in a queue and pinched my cheeks. Face cheeks. She was so embarrassed when she realised i was me...i had to feel for her, man. imagine the horror....i was just like i get that all the time.

i think its just cos i am comfortable in my skin and anywhere i am...always, even in less than desirable situations. i just accept it and think 'this too shall pass' so that must manifest somehow on my face.

ARRgghh, brain strain...too early for such analysis

anyhoo, cancer/cappie/sag here.

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moonbaby
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posted January 10, 2005 03:49 AM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
jwhop, please can you type me a li'l tidbit about cancer sun/ cap rising from linda's relationship sign. if you have time that is.

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posted January 10, 2005 03:21 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Lauren: I've posted this a few times elseware on the board, but havin' that Leo rising always makes me feel like I have a spotlight on me...no matter where I go or what I do, or even if I hide. I don't wear flashy clothing or have my hair done up or even wear makeup.. I definately do not make myself stick out in a crowd w/enhanced looks.

It's a good thing in the end I think because we ARE friendly people. It would be nice though to have peace occasionally when out and about.

Angela

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Lauren Leigh
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posted January 10, 2005 03:44 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
moonbaby - You poor thing! Getting harassed by old bitties in the street! lol You must have a very kind face, I can't see Erika Badu or Brandy being mean.

Angela - I understand what you mean about feeling like your in the spotlight all the time, I often feel like that. I used to wear flashy clothing, if flashy is the word for it (former goth kid here, no piercings/tattoos though!)and so for a while I did stick out something awful but I loved the attention (definitely the Leo in me) now I'm more conservative but I still get the lingering stares etc.

I completely agree with you about having a bit of peace while out in public.

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posted January 10, 2005 08:27 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for jwhop     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Hello moonbaby, glad to share what Linda Goodman had to say about Capricorn Rising with you. I can't really relate that to your Sun in Cancer, however.

When I was writing about Leo Sun/Scorp Rising, I was writing from my own experience and perception about that combination which I share.

Capricorn Rising
Relationship Signs....Linda Goodman

Theme
I like to set goals

Capricorn Rising will be busy setting goals, writing lists, stocking the pantry, but she's still asking her Mom to go to the mall to help her pick out clothes, even though she's already in her thirties. She's the woman of substance. Anxiety ridden, no stranger to the night crazies, she's fearful and timid underneath the layers of control. She loves Woody Allen movies because he voices her fears. She's afraid to make the wrong choice, to love the wrong man, to present a paper with a dangling participle. Yet despite this, she exudes supreme confidence. Understanding this dichotomy allows you to proceed into the sacred territory of her heart. Verbalizing her fears, assessing her shortcomings, demeaning her plans, excludes you from her life. Once you understand the formula for friendship with her she's an easy friend, a loyal and loving partner. She'll keep your trust, share your dreams. She's aloof, distant, but never cold or uncaring. Slow in romance, she unfolds like a flower in spring, gently. Men sense this hesitancy and therein lies her allure. What better mating call than reluctance? Convincing her is half the excitement. She may or may not be the prettiest; men seldom notice. Refusing to market herself, she won't tell you she has an MBA, is also an interior decorator, and is one of the wittiest people you'll ever meet. Here is the woman of depth. Shallow men repel her. Aimless, unsteady men leave her chilled to the bone. She is high cheekbones and high aspirations. She looks for sincerity, decency, and yes, some money in the bank.

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astro junkie
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posted January 12, 2005 12:40 AM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Lauren Leigh -

Apparently - These people also share the same Sun/Asc Combo as you :::

"(Napoléon Bonaparte) NAPOLEON Ier born August 15, 1769
Tori AMOS born August 22, 1963
Edward NORTON born August 18, 1969
Jacqueline KENNEDY ONASSIS BOUVIER born July 28, 1929
Zelle Margaretha MATA HARI born August 7, 1876
Benito MUSSOLINI born July 29, 1883
Martha STEWART born August 3, 1941
Samuel Taylor COLERIDGE born August 15, 1875
Patrick KENNEDY born August 7, 1963
John DEREK born August 12, 1926
Kenny ROGERS born August 21, 1938
Peggy FLEMING born July 27, 1948
Joe CHAMBERS born August 22, 1942
Buddy ROGERS born August 13, 1904
Ernesto MASERATI born August 4, 1898
Robert HORTON born July 29, 1924
Jerry FALWELL born August 11, 1933
Ferdinand de BRINON born August 16, 1885
Annie OAKLEY born August 13, 1860"

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Lauren Leigh
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posted January 12, 2005 12:43 AM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Ooo neato AstroJunkie, thanks. I knew about Jackie Kennedy and Napoleon but not about the rest of the list...its frightening that I share the same sun/asc combo as Martha Stewart...

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posted January 12, 2005 02:34 AM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
"Annie Get Your Gun"


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posted April 10, 2012 05:27 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for peachbeigeblue     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I have the same combination. When I was younger I had a lot of Scorpio friends. I was definitely more reserved specifically in my more awkward teenage years. I've read recently Scorpio risings like to hide their eyes with sunglasses or hair. It's interesting to me because I have piercing light blue Scorpio rising eyes but have covered them up with dark blue - almost blackish blue lenses for years. I'm the only one of my siblings who got the recessive light eyes from my father and mothers fathers.

Id say the first description was most accurate. I definitely can sting. I try not to anymore but if someone I'm close with injures my pride... Yikes. I also have that strong mars placement in Aries and a Taurus moon.

I know that Demi Lovato girl whose a singer has this combination too.

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