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PrincessO27
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posted April 30, 2005 12:26 AM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I'm an Aries with a Leo Ascendent...I'm definately a hot head. Hah, i wish i could do something to avoid aggravating anyone close to me but i can't seem to figure out how to control my temper and i have a big control issues. Sorry can't give you any advice really, but i've just started going to therapy for all my anger/aggression issues so maybe that would help you as well?

I think that they should just learn how to deal with us though (i guess that would be my selfishness coming out...)

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Tranquil Poet
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posted April 30, 2005 02:11 AM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
If I give my opinion on a sign and how I think they are, it doesn't mean I am being an a*s or that I'm severely disturbed either. Now a murderer I'd definitely call severely disturbed.


I am just being honest. And well that's my nature. Some people can't really handle that. I can recall you coming in telling me to stop the crap already when I was only giving my opinion.

Before you accuse someone else of acting like an a*s....take a look at yourself first.

You try and discipline everyone here. This isn't pre-school. This is a forum. And believe it or not many people here have there own opinions. So from now on don't like what I type?

Don't respond then.


I never have problems like this on other forums.


Some people are such drama queens. They are always looking for drama.


It's played out already. And well sorry sweety but you really need to get over it.

I'm done with you. You are a grown married woman with children. So go boss them around and check on there every move.

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pixelpixie
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posted April 30, 2005 02:20 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for pixelpixie     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Well if you insist that I am a Drama Queen, I shall wear this tiara.

It will look good with my carrot top and my ass.
Then I will discipline everyone.. the line starts to the right..
BLUEROAMER???
Get your ass here and bend..... you're first.

If this is pre school, I missed a lot when I was there.
Enough foolishness, I need a skanky ass to whip.
Any skanks around?
*I seriously cringe when I see, let alone type that word... I find it funny that you think being nasty is being honest.

I am not going to harp about it anymore though.. to each their own. I simply asked you not to use it because I found it rude to generalize.
You responded by being... general.
I don't know what else I was expecting....
You must be reincarnating here for a reason... Other than trying to continue a beef by commenting directly about someone whose sign you happen to know.. and I am quite perceptive...

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pixelpixie
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posted April 30, 2005 02:37 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for pixelpixie     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
You keep insisting I am a grown married woman.
Like - that is your major point of argument in each of your past user names.
Are you NOT a grown woman, therefore you are somehow exempt from playing by the rules of polite society?
Sure I am an ass.
I have no issue with this. I know myself.
But my point is I am not ONLY an ass.
I am asking you to please stop seeking revenge in generalizations.
If you don't, then fine.
But don't blame it on honesty.. honesty is a lot of things.. that isn't one of them.
I am just talking to hear myself anyway.
I am a bit of an egotistical drama queen....

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sue g
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posted April 30, 2005 05:10 AM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Ladies, ladies, please can I just come in here for a second - Tranquil Poet, can I offer you some help at all, you were on my mind after reading your thread about your Dad, it made me feel sad, would you be be willing to read my thread in Soul Unions called Family Constellations about a course I went on last w/e. I think it would help you and anyone who has had tragedy or problems in their family (that counts us all in dont it). I really love this forum and I think the banter is great, but as I said before I aint gonna contribute if this childish stuff carries on. I think you are an intelligent girl with good ideas, but would you ever please try and keep it under the wraps, the abusive stuff. Please be more understanding about people - Pixie is going thro a difficult time at the moment, so would you be a bit more understanding? Will leave that with you - love and magic Sue xx

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BlueRoamer
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posted April 30, 2005 05:19 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for BlueRoamer     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Ummm Tranquil Poet are you Atlantic myst/mystic dreams etc and so forth? If you are, thats ok I won't hold it against ya .


I'll take my spanking now.

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cancerrg
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posted April 30, 2005 09:08 AM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
_____________________________________________, I am very articulate and (I really should be a lawyer) I can argue that the sky is green and win.
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IS IT REALLY THE CASE?
i have seen a leo doing this but anybody else , not sure ?
do enlighten us!

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sthenri
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posted April 30, 2005 11:07 AM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I'm not sure selfish is the word, immature is one that I would use. I know people with no fire in their charts btw who are incredibly selfish. A mars, sun, or venus singleton really has trouble, learning to give. I know three and I don't give them much, except advice.

The temper I can handle, it's sullen withdrawal that bugs me,

Natasha
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DayDreamer
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posted April 30, 2005 12:06 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Ummm...some Sags can be too blunt, or maybe I'm just too sensitive to their insults and criticsm.

My Sag father was always very hot tempered with me through most of my childhood and adolescent years when I did not have a mother or any mother figure available for comfort and support. I was made to think that she was crazy, stupid and that I should stay away from her because of what my father told me. He didn’t have a clue about her.

At the same time I really did look up to him since he always helped to answer my questions that no one else was able to do. I was always critical of what he told me so he would have to do a lot of convincing (this helped to keep him close by and to keep him on his good side)

My Taurean mother has recovered somewhat, but she’ll never be the woman she was when she married him. I’m still trying to understand her and only in the last few years or so since I came home have got a better idea of what she is really made of. Hard to do because she barely talks to me and when we do converse it only lasts a few minutes tops. She is a very quiet person...the strong silent type. And that is a problem for me because I need alot of verbal communication and mental stimulation since I have so much air in me. She also has a habit of overcooking and thus force feeding everyone. Not going to complain with that...I am well fed!!! That is how she shows her love.

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jwhop
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posted April 30, 2005 01:05 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for jwhop     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote

quote:
was wondering if any of you fire signs out there have a problem with being short-tempered, aggressive, having dominating tendencies, etc.

Nope, those things cause me no problems whatsoever. They may cause others who are on the receiving end problems...but not me.

On the plus side, you will almost always know when a fire sign is not pleased and you won't have to hear it from a third party...or the reason why. Scorpio too!

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Secret Garden
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posted April 30, 2005 05:48 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
lol @ jwhop!

i agree with natasha, its more immaturity, linda says in sun signs that the Arians especially are like infants in that they make a buncha noise and can be a pain in the arse but only if you are not understanding where they are coming from. they are the first in the zodiac and from their perspective, they represent the younger years and infancy...its more immaturity than selfishness. for some reason, i have more of a problem with sag men and leo women. The sag men becoz they do not have the abilities and skills of the leo or aries men but insist on proppin themselves on a pedestal...maybe its jus bad experiences with sag men on a personal basis. they get along great with me...i dont think any sag man has ever had a prob with me. i just have lots of problems accepting them in general...even though i have a stellium in the ninth house.... but then again their sun would oppose my stellium (ninth house is Gem in my chart).

Another thing i have noticed is that some fire signs such as Leo may have some personal planets in neighboring signs such as Cancer and Virgo which tend to be very sensitive, sweet and service-oriented. Likewise, Aries may have personal planets in Pisces or Taurus. Maybe the problems I have with Sags are the personal planets being in Scorp and Cappy, which are not as service-oriented and sensitive as the Virgo/Cancer signs in the Leo example.

My mom is a Leo with Pisces moon. Although her methods of communication and expression can **** me off beyond belief i do understand that thats just her way of expressing herself. Interestingly its her Pisces moon that I ultimately cannot understand. Because it maeks her super emotional + the me-me-me mantra of Leos, and you have this OVERLY emotional self absorbed lioness who is constantly putting on emotional drama and expecting other ppl to accept it. I think its the Pisces moon coupled with the Leo sun that makes it so obnoxious...

Love
SG

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zoso
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posted April 30, 2005 06:16 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for zoso     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
quote:
IS IT REALLY THE CASE?
i have seen a leo doing this but anybody else , not sure ?
do enlighten us!


The thing about arguing (with me) is that if I'm not blinded by fury, my mind is quick. Sometimes I'll take devil's advocate on issues just to argue that side, even if I don't believe it. I've also been known to argue when I know I'm wrong, out of pride. Easiest way to win is to find flaws in other's logic, therefore leading them to second guess themselves. Then, just make sure your points are well defined and connected.

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BlueRoamer
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posted April 30, 2005 06:39 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for BlueRoamer     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
SG I think you have sadges pegged wrong....a lot of them are very service oriented, especially the women. Yes sadges can be boastful, but so can leo and aries. I have a cap rising, merc, and a scorpio moon, and a sadge sun, and I hvae always been oriented towards helping people, altho not in quite the ego absent way of a virgo. What I lack in humbleness though I make up for in power and dedication. Both scorpio and cap influences can be very self sacrficing and serving. It just depends on the person.

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Secret Garden
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posted April 30, 2005 08:51 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
BR, i think you are right,

i have a scorp stellium and tend to feel guilty half the time about not giving enough to the less fortunate, etc. but when i do involve myself in that kind of service, i never let other people know about it....

this guy i am currently with is an aqua and he has a virgo stellium. i called him up today and we had the weirdest conversation, something along the lines of,
me: 'what are you doing?'
him: 'oh i just came back from helping build a house with some other guys for the homeless'
me: 'oh kool! thats so sweet, did u get my email?'
him: 'yeah! heard ur going to jerusalem and then going to visit someone back home?'
me: 'yeah! going to visit that orphan i sponsored a while back'
him: 'oh kool, i wanna sponsor an orphan too'

lol. we are both air signs. but our only common passions are: helping others, telling each other how hot we think the other is, making great conversation with each other, and bickering like anything.

a sag woman i know is so selfless, she will never go out and buy new things for herself. its always for her family, her children, her friends. i have never seen her wearing jewelry, she is anti jewelry for herself but loves giving expensive gifts to other people, both women and men. in fact i know two sag women like that. some sag men can be giving emotionally or can be sympathetic but i dont know a single one yet who is as giving as those sag women. and a lot of sag men i have come across can get angry or impatient after being sympathetic, then lash out and call names and insult and just destroy any past kindnesses they had done.

anyhow, i am not in any way takin away from fire sign traits--they are wonderful, we need them; we all need a little fire in us or around us. as much as my mom p*sses me off, i think life without her would be so incomplete and bleak that it wouldnt be worth living.

Love
SG

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sue g
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posted May 01, 2005 05:04 AM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Hi Tranquil Poet, now that I have a definition of the word "Skanky" I am intrigued as to why you drew this conclusion about Scorpios - it would help me to get another signs perception of my own. I was wondering if it was to do with the sexual appetite that people associate with the sign or something else. Its just that some of the most honourable and loyal, kind and wise people Ive met are Scorpio - I know they can threaten others with their magnetism and huge presence (just thinking of Richard Burton, Katy Hepburn and Scarlett OHara from Gone with the wind - all very commanding, enigmatic characters). Yeah they can be incredibly sexual, but skanky............mmm............cant see it myself.........would love others' viewpoints love and peace to all xxxxx

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