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amisha121877
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posted June 30, 2005 04:23 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
lol - that's reneging. also, trust your instincts

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leoelf
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posted June 30, 2005 04:25 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
What dat mean? (rening)

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ariestiger
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posted June 30, 2005 04:28 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Going back on your words/actions.

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Mama Mia
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posted June 30, 2005 04:28 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Mama Mia     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
She really did not mean those things she said though. I do not see it as reniging if
you are confused and did not really mean it.
Leoelf: It will all work out take some time and think about this and when the next guy comes around you will be ready. It may not be to late for this one just wait and see...

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Mama Mia
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posted June 30, 2005 04:28 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Mama Mia     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
She really did not mean those things she said though. I do not see it as reniging if
you are confused and did not really mean it.
Leoelf: It will all work out take some time and think about this and when the next guy comes around you will be ready. It may not be to late for this one just wait and see...

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leoelf
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posted June 30, 2005 04:32 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I give up on men.

Where's Ellen . . .

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ariestiger
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posted June 30, 2005 04:37 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Whoa! MM, looks like we both posted at the same time!

Regarding Aquas though - it's true every time I have been really loving to Mr Aqua he's got bored with me, has acted up, and I'm sure has had crushes on other women.
If we're both being honest, our relationship is slowly coming to an end now; when I suggest he finds s/o else now (and mean it), he makes a face and stays put and tells me not to be so daft!

LOL

AT

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leoelf
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posted June 30, 2005 04:37 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote

Here's his chart dissect away . . . .


Birthplace: Brooklyn, New York (40° 40' N, 73° 58' W)
Birthtime: Jun 21, 1980 at 02:40 (07:40 GMT)

Planetary Positions
Planet Sign Position Location
Sun Cancer 00° 05' 2nd House
Moon Libra 08° 45' 5th House
Mercury Cancer 23° 12' 3rd House
Venus Gemini 20° 44' 1st House
Mars Virgo 19° 40' 5th House
Jupiter Virgo 04° 36' 4th House
Saturn Virgo 20° 58' 5th House
Uranus Scorpio 22° 06' 6th House
Neptune Sagittarius 21° 2' 7th House
Pluto Libra 18° 55' 6th House

House Positions
House Sign Position
Ascendant Gemini 01° 31'
2nd House Gemini 25° 37'
3rd House Cancer 16° 15'
4th House Leo 08° 16'
5th House Virgo 06° 15'
6th House Libra 15° 24'
7th House Sagittarius 01° 31'
8th House Sagittarius 25° 37'
9th House Capricorn 16° 15'
Midheaven Aquarius 08° 16'
11th House Pisces 06° 15'
12th House Aries 15° 24'
Major Aspects
Aspect Orb
Sun Sextile Jupiter 04° 30'
Mercury Sextile Mars 03° 31'
Mercury Sextile Saturn 02° 13'
Mercury Trine Uranus 01° 06'
Mercury Square Pluto 04° 17'
Venus Square Mars 01° 03'
Venus Square Saturn 00° 15'
Venus Opposition Neptune 00° 18'
Venus Trine Pluto 01° 48'
Mars Conjunction Saturn 01° 18'
Mars Sextile Uranus 02° 26'
Mars Square Neptune 01° 21'
Saturn Sextile Uranus 01° 08'
Saturn Square Neptune 00° 03'
Neptune Sextile Pluto 02° 07'

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ariestiger
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posted June 30, 2005 04:38 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Leoelf, you don't need an Ellen. Just act differently the next time!

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pidaua
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posted June 30, 2005 05:00 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for pidaua     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
leoelf,

LOL...I won't respond about TP. Never in my life have I addressed people in her manner or resorted to calling someone a b1tch or hick because I couldn't retort back to them with someone intelligent. But, that aside- yes there can be some similarities- she is my polar opposite being a Gem and all.

I would ask you, what did you learn from the experience? Letting him go (which you did, again, rather abruptly) does it serve your heart well? I think it may be leaving a rather bitter taste in your mouth. Then again, maybe you learned something profound within yourself and rather than keeping the "lesson material" around, you move on. Maybe there is a bit of hurt on your side too because he found someone else.

But... did you value his friendship? Are you going to miss talking to him? Or are your feelings too deep to talk to him now that he is with someone else?

You have every right to take your time and reflect on what you learned...what you felt. That in itself is a HUGE step..you said it.. "I fell in love" You let your guard down enough to let those feelings happen, but they scared you.. Oh, now comes the baby steps. You know you can feel, you know your blocks, so now it's time to think of how to tear them down on your own instead of making some poor dude do it for you.

Most of all... don't give up

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amisha121877
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posted June 30, 2005 05:14 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
i think it's reninging / i do it all the time / can't commit for sh*t because i don't know what that type of "commit" actually means.

anyway, you say it so many times you are sometimes completely sure and other times not so sure you mean it. there is a reason for that but still in all................

he's young unless i'm "old" and 1980 isn't considered a youngster anymore. lol. ummmmm, have you shown or told him that you are upset because he has "upgraded" his relationship with someone else even though you told him time and time again that you want him to be happy.......etc., etc., etc., sorry, i'm rushing and all. btw, i say that i want you to be happy thing but when and why did you tell him - was he pressuring you to "upgrade" you's two relationship? was he aggrevating you or something?

anyway, yes, if it's meant to be it will be but until then, find out why you said what you said to him - if you said you were not ready, i'm sure you know why you said you were not ready - was it more because of him or because of you? i mean, there are plenty of factors that don't have to be astrologically driven like lifestyles, physicalities, priorities, principles, etc., etc., etc. once you figure that out - and you still want to be with this dude, you will go about doing it without second guessing yourself again. i think. i don't know - i'm still working on that, my self.

best of luck.

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leoelf
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posted June 30, 2005 05:15 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Pidaua,
I can't say what I learned right now, I still have to think.
Do I value our friendship? I suppose I can't answer that either.
Do I miss him? Words can't describe.
I guess knowing that he felt the same would be comforting, so I don't and I will always wonder.

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leoelf
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posted June 30, 2005 05:43 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Amisha,
You make lots of sense. I suppose it was me who had one of the hardest years of my life this year and didn't want to be with him and put my "**** " on him. I didn't want him to feel obligated to, although he constantly told me he could handle it, i didn't want to be a burden.

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Planet_Soul
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posted June 30, 2005 08:01 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Leoelf,


Do you feel in your heart that you have now gained closure? Maybe you could write him a letter expressing your feelings, so they don't eat at you inside. You don't ever have to give it to him, just for your soul to tell his soul whats yearning in a way that feels safe for you.

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Leyla
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posted June 30, 2005 09:25 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
So he chased you like mad, then he dumped you?

It is for men like him that they wrote those books "The Rules" and "Why men love B*tches."

Playing hard to get sucks. It would be so much easier to be straight forward.

But with certain types of men there is no other way; It's all about the thrill of the chase.

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miss_apples
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posted July 01, 2005 12:27 AM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Hi Leoelf. Im a Leo too, and Ive done exactly what you did before. I have told guys that I wanted them to go see other girls when I really had a big huge crush on them and really didnt want them to see other girls. Why? Because I wanted to sound like Im open-minded and easy going and didnt want to come off as an obsessive compulsive controlling witch. Of course the exact thing happened to me, the guys did exactly what I told them to do and went and saw other girls.

And yes, I got mad just like you did, even though its unfair to get mad at someone for doing something that you told them you dont mind doing.

Life always has to be so complicated huh!

Do I still do this? Of course I do, but not as often and Im more aware of it and learning from it now. Im learning that there are ways to tell a person your feelings w/out sounding obsessive-compulsive and controlling

Dont be so angry with him or yourself. Forgive him, forgive yourself, and mark it down to learning.

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leoelf
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posted July 01, 2005 09:19 AM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
leoelf/marcia

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amisha121877
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posted July 01, 2005 11:05 AM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
"i didn't want to be a burden"


Ahhhh, well that's a familiar one / as familiar as the sun, moon, and stars. So you figured, you could get through the rough year you've been having by keeping a gate around your heart in case of.........and that you weren't much good to someone you truly care about by having so much "burden". Maybe you felt that you were so much of a burden, that you would drag him down too. Maybe you figured that your already shaped principles, priorities, dreams and aspirations, as well as improving the image of yourself that's slightly blurry as is, would help you win the "race" even after hearing the slow and steady wins the race story a billion times as well as the two heads are better than one statement.

You might have even figured that you would be much more confidant, productive and a much better mate if you could just get through the "burdens" on your own before you made a commitment to someone, much less talk about it - have you tried? if not, try and you might be surprised at your inability to make sense of what you call "burdens" and why you carry them around so much or think of them as such (Planet Soul's suggestion of writing a letter to him is a good one and you don't have to give it to him / it's as much for you than anyone else).

Maybe you were unsure the giving and receiving was stable enough, equal enough, clear enough. Maybe like Gloria Esteban - "I try to say I love you but the words get in the way". Maybe you didn't think that you could possibly get through the burdens by knowing you had a positive relationship that could possibly help you grow as an individual as well as a partner, with someone in close quarter and could create a new and maybe better plan/path from that - so you shunned it regardless of whether or not it would remain available to you whenever you were ready..

Still in all - accentuating the negative in spite of the positive didn't really keep your head above water because now - you are second guessing your instilled beliefs. You must stay strong and confidant otherwise you could become someone else's you.

That's my opinion on that - I wish you much luck in getting through this but history shows that if it's meant to be it'll be and in this - your situation with this gentleman, if it's meant to be, believe you/me - this young man will always be a part of your life and his aroma will be around you constantly and without letting up.

In the end, what's most important is that if this is true - maybe your idea of "being a burden" might have to be thrown out because if you believe it, you are.............what do you think?

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cancerrg
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posted July 01, 2005 12:42 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
hey leolf , who said u were a burden , did he tell u that ? naah , he didn't then how did u come to this conclusion .
when u feel u will be liked by people , u will be liked when u your self feel u wont be liked , u wont ever be liked .
i am cancer and we always have the need to be needed . tell u very honestly , the above sentence has changed my life and now i always go by it .
why did u logoff at that moment , iam sure he wanted to talk and u should have let him talk . he's with another gal doesn't mean he's commited . even if he's , he would have told u that . my feeling is - we should never break relations this way , never .

n a positive note- remember this that everything in life happens for some good , so who knows what life has in store for u .

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leoelf
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posted July 01, 2005 12:53 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Some of the replies I've recieved here are amazing. Thank you.

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