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The Mutable Night Force
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posted July 07, 2005 03:11 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for The Mutable Night Force     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Yeah, maybe I should pop up here with the fact that my uncle is an Aquarian and he is super-affectionate, loving and a warm nice person.
Actually, he takes like half and hour saying goodbye to relatives. He has a big heart.

So nuts to the unemotional Aquas theory!

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whiterabbit
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posted July 07, 2005 04:39 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for whiterabbit     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
what's with the aqua-bashing, tranquil poet? not much of a poet's soul in your words..
it seems to me you've been burned by a water-bearer, but surely it's no reason to go around hating all of us? one (or even a couple) of a$$hole guys don't speak for every member of their sign.


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Tranquil Poet
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posted July 07, 2005 04:54 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Again what is it with the male crap?


You say something about one sign and forget it it's because a man hurt you.


Shut up with that already. find somehting new.


and f**** my screen name. Who cares what it says. it has nothing to do with this post's topic.

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Mama Mia
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posted July 07, 2005 05:22 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Mama Mia     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Way to much hostility here and it not that serious at all. TP: I know that you are a Gem but there is really two sides to you one is cool and knowledgable and I have seen you be sweet to ppl. Then there is the monster side of you that goes off like a rocket if you even think that someone has offended you, I mean no harm but can you just let things roll of you sometimes everything that is said against what you said or feel is not an atempt to attack you, I do not think. You were doing pretty good as far as keeping your anger/temper down everything is not a dierct hit at you. I am so non confrontational and I know things will not always run smooth and misunderstandings will happen but cursing ppl out and calling them Weirdo's ect.ect is not the answer. I am about peace and it does not have to be like this..

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whiterabbit
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posted July 07, 2005 05:58 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for whiterabbit     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
well said, Mama Mia,

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Zohe
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posted July 08, 2005 07:14 AM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
SecretGardenAgain are you a Libran by any chance...?

Hey Natasha hope you is well...

I'm Aqua Sun, Cap Moon and Pisces rising. I kind of understand where SecretGardenAgain and T Poet are coming from....

I've been trying to decide for the last two years who is best for me. I got freaked about a committing to one girl, couldn't decide If she was the one for me. Its taken me two years to admit/realise that she probably would have been perfect...

I couldn't committ because I felt I didn't know her or maybe just didn't trust her enuff. I needed to know she wanted me for me. I really wanted her to be with me for the rest of my life but couldn't tell her. Possibly because I got freaked that she would break my heart later on..

The emotions i felt at the time I wouldn't call "detached".

At the time however she wanted an immediate decision and I could not give it. She piled on the pressure and I cracked.

Thats when the detachment came into it. I don't like it when people get angry with me and get "too emotional". She was understandably upset but instead of talking to her I cut her off. Refused to take her calls, messages etc. She got angrier, I got colder...

I didn;t mean for it to happen like that and my intention was never to hurt her like I did. TP is right that some of us at least can be cold heartless b~$%*rds

Now because of my coldness and meanness (well partly)she of course will not speak to me....

have a nice day

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Tranquil Poet
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posted July 08, 2005 12:31 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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I really wanted her to be with me for the rest of my life but couldn't tell her



This story reminds me of me and my capricorn who has an aquarius moon and aquarius rising.

Except I haven't left yet.


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I would fly to the moon and back...If you'll be my baby.

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suzyque
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posted July 09, 2005 06:06 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Geez it wasn't my intetion for people to start bashing the heck out each other. It seems to me that the aspects in someone's chart can make a big difference in how much the express their rising, sun or moon sign.

I think they can over power these things in a chart.And probably certain progressions and transits might cause a part of your chart to be more active that previously wasn't, influencing how you relate to people.

I know this is boring babble to most, but it helps me figure things out if i put it into words.
I really appreciate everyones input though.

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shop22much
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posted July 09, 2005 06:20 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for shop22much     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
hmm Zo...
your post is very interesting to me,
Did you ever tell her you loved her?
Whats her sign? moon? etc...
If you really felt she was the one, and realize it now, why dont you go after her with fire in your eyes?

Why is it when we detach, you get attached again? Are you afraid of the word "need"?
Are you purposely playing games or is it a subconcious decision?

very curious, and im sure I had more ?'s I cant think of...

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SecretGardenAgain
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posted July 09, 2005 11:46 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
hey whiterabbit and Daydreamer,

I love Aquas to death i thot i should start off by admitting that

Honestly, not only are they genius, the men that have ever been able to speak to me on the same intellectual plane, without pulling an BS, have always been aquas. Yes ive had my share of bad experiences with em (2 to be exact ) but the good ones outshined the bad ones wayyyy much. The last Aqua I speak about, although its still painful to think about it, but I was truly attached to him more than Ive ever been to any man (even my ex husband) and thats saying a lot.

We were similar to a very scary degree , and could always finish each others sentences too. The only one big difference we had was our attitude towards relationships and love, and how fast to take them. Unfortunately..otherwise woulda been a great great guy and I woulda treasured him like none else

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SecretGardenAgain
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posted July 09, 2005 11:46 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Im a Gem too but not two faced, I just have one face and that ones annoying enough Im sorry for the aqua bashing going on here ... Didnt mean for it to turn nasty...not all Gems are cruel

to Aquas and everybody

Zohe Im a Gem sun, not Libra, but I do have Libra rising and oftentimes I feel it kicking in because I feel so uncomfortable around conflict, disagreements, anger... and I really look for balance and harmony and understanding, and I dont claim that every guy Ive been with would say Im the best lover hes had (although a lot have, thank you very much ) but they would definitely describe me as the most understanding. It is something that I think i pride myself on hehe

Im sorry to hear about your unfortunate incident with this girl... Hopefully it was a lesson you learned, albeit a hard and difficult one. But Im glad to know that at least you felt love and learned what it is, so many people go on in life without even acknowledging or experiencing it, and its a beautiful thing


Love
SG

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Zohe
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posted July 10, 2005 11:03 AM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Hey Shop22

Did you ever tell her you loved her?
not while i was with her, i did tell her but whilst she was angry just shortly after I "left" her

Whats her sign? moon? etc...
Libra Sun, Scorpio Rising, Pisces Moon, Sag Venus and Scorpio in Mercury

If you really felt she was the one, and realize it now, why dont you go after her with fire in your eyes?

She wont speak to me. Cant figure out how to get thru to her. Whenever we do see each other both our faces crumple up into a frown.. I have tried but she cant seem to let go of the anger/hurt. Her friends obviously despise me

Why is it when we detach, you get attached again? Are you afraid of the word "need"?

I know i have issues with the word "need"

Are you purposely playing games or is it a subconcious decision?
i dont know what i am doing, i'm not a game player that much i know

gotta go ..look forward to any comments/replies

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shop22much
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posted July 11, 2005 02:15 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for shop22much     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
you know Zohe I have so many unanswered questions about an Aqua I adore with all my being, but ive become almost fully jaded on the whole thing, i mean i feel like no other aqua will really get me to understand this aqua, he is so different on so many levels, i just wish he realized what he had when he had it....i do have another ?...do u tend to hurt the ones you love most? ..
i mean i know most do this butdo you think this quote suits you most? how do i know when an aqua really loves me? will i really have to wait till im 90? blah thanks for responding so far...

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sthenri
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posted July 11, 2005 04:23 AM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Hi Tranquil Poet, yes he had Neptune opposite Moon and Mars, plus he had no fire in his chart, and a Venus singleton-
and Saturn in Pisces conjunct Ascendant, he was bitter and cynical always.. and he used to write poetry too but stopped to drink instead.

I think Geminis make great writers, it's actually healthy emotionally. I would hang out with Geminis again if they wrote and were happy with their writing, and projects.

I am biased about Aquas right now because I am going steady with one,

Natasha

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SecretGardenAgain
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posted July 12, 2005 04:02 AM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
wow Nat i envy u,

how do u get them to settle down? i can always get the interest, the crush, i even got one to love me, but they never admit it, most of them have issues with love and needing someone... they move slower than snails which is a big issue for me,

do u think theres a solution to make them a bit more grounded?

i always wonder about ashton kutcher, which i believe is a dbl Aqua (sun/moon), like my aqua was, and hes been captivated by the sexy and (older) Demi Moore (Scorp/Taurus). I thot the clinginess scared them away (?) and I cant imagine a Scorp sun, Taurus moon, not being clingy No offense to the combo, but i know so many scorp suns who are clingy, and Taurus moon Gemini people who are so clingy, and the two seem like a deadly clinginess combination waiting to happen.

Love
SG

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sthenri
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posted July 12, 2005 06:47 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Taurus moon people really aren't clingy they are needy which is different. They speak about their needs they don't get emotional at all. There is practically no emotion, just give me what I want. So to an Aqua that would be attractive, as a Cancer/8th house moon I am needy and whiny and emotional but then I get REALLY cold when I feel slighted and I shut down.

So then the chase begins and I have become more mature over the years, and the highs and lows are less apparent. This Aqua has Venus in Pisces and a Leo moon/7th house so he is very sensitive to moods, especially cold ones. The men who are basically needy in the physical sense so much that they are demanding don't work for me and vice versa, they find me hard and manipulative and too sexual.

I like to wear hot pink and dress without a bra sometimes, due to my Uranus and Pluto trine Sun, 8th house moon, and lots of Aries. I don't like being told what to do, and Aquarius men really like a woman to be beautiful and noticed.

So I think it's a question of not caring about settling down at all, or at least looking that way. Then as I am got older I became better at expressing my needs up front forcefully, with the help of another Aquarius friend.

In fact when I was dating the Gemini/Taurus moon I was slightly falling for another Aquarius the whole time and I promised myself if that happened again I would know exactly what I wanted.

Right now I am very clear about what I want even though HE isn't. He says he does, but he doesn't. I can see in his eyes how they get spooked and guarded when I talk about l love. I tell him all the time I want to a man to be in love with ME, not the other way around and i will NEVER call him, he has to call me and i will CUT off my arms and legs rather than be vulnerable to him.

I also told him I not want sex, but making love only and exploring each othe gradually was good for me, any other behaviour i would take as a threat to my emotional happiness. Also if he wants me he has to TAKE CARE of my body and mind and that means financially as well, that gives him caution. Since has Aries all over his chart too he needs the caution and he respects me for it.

Lots of times he knows I could have kept him from work to be with me and I told him I respected him too much to do that and he actually appreciated that. I want the same thing and lots of times he could have had me sexually and he didn't simply because he knew I wanted his respect, not because I TOLD him to stop but he did on his own, with a word from me.

So I am strong and forceful in my words and I need, I need, I neeed...


I have my issues about asking for help so I make sure to let him know what I need all the time, and communicate my desires, crushes, and influences from other men which happen daily.

He has a sixth sense as to when something is wrong and buys me small presents then. he says it makes him feel like a bigger man when he does that and i can accept that finally.

What do you think?

Natasha

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SecretGardenAgain
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posted July 12, 2005 07:47 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
hey natasha, that sounds nothing like my aqua, maybe becoz hes a double Aqua? I dont get it, because he once told me, need is a four letter word to me and i can never need someone,

so i concluded, to myself of course, that love must be a four letter word for him too, and its true that he runs from both things. he doesnt like people trying to get a hold of him. when someone does he runs farther away. he has serious issues with commitment. i am not with the aqua, i am with the aries, but i do have a strange mixture of curiosity, anger and fascination towards the aqua. of course he'll always be my crush and hes so yummy looking

i want to figure him out and scare him jk. but i do want to figure him out.

in august we will be meeting for , i suppose, the last time. i have returned to my natural hair color (red-golden), taken out my brown contacts (back to hazel eyes). i know the aqua loved my natural hair and eye color. now i dont mean to be cruel but i do resent him for giving me false hopes and leading me on then backing out becoz he was literally, scared to fall in love with me. he was falling and he wanted to save himself.

I want to figure out what would break him as a person--that cold exterior. I want to melt his heart, then make him fall in love--with anyone, (Im sure it wont be me again). But I would liek to break that stone exterior, because it was what broke my heart in the first place (do i sound like a scorp moon talking here or what huh)

Love
SG

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posted July 12, 2005 09:19 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Taurus moon's rule!


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Gemini sun, Cancer rising, Taurus moon
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zoso
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posted July 12, 2005 10:39 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for zoso     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
TP!!! YEAH! Taurus mooners....

Damn Aquas, when will we stop talking about them???

I've known a lot of Aqua men and they are very different from each other, but all have been very detached. The only one I really wasn't attracted to was the one who liked me. That sucks. Still waiting for that ONE Aqua and I find it best to forget about them until they eventually initiate contact. Then, be sweet and interesting before forgetting about them all over again.

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Mama Mia
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posted July 13, 2005 01:25 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Mama Mia     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I guess it all makes sense now,The Aqua that I was so into it was weird when we would see each other in the gym and even out in the street all this after we split he would seem to intense , I mean I could pick up on his feeling so easily I knew that he still had deeep feelings for me. So when I would see that in him I might text him,never called him. But he would never respond and never speak to me in the gym. But somehow I knew that he still liked me and could even feel his energy when he thought about me. But one day my girlfriend told me he has to come to you. In other words he has to initiate the contact. I guess that is just how they are. I am getting on with my life but dang he is still on my mind..I guess it isn't until I forget about him totally,then he will be calling..Backwards as I don't know what...

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nove731
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posted July 13, 2005 06:05 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for nove731     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Hmm...I don't know that I've met a detatched Aquarian. Probably because I don't know any outside my year. During that time in 1990, there was a stellium in Capricorn of Mercury, Venus, Mars, Saturn, Uranus, and Neptune. With the Sun in Aquarius, Jupiter in Cancer, Pluto in Scorpio, and the Moon all over the place. Haha, as per usual. I had a pretty good friend who was an Aquarius Sun, Cancer Moon, and Scorpio Rising with Pluto conjunct his Ascendant, a few years back. He was anything BUT detatched, and a little too intense for me, being an Aries Sun, Sag. Moon, and Virgo Rising.

But we lost contact pretty easy. So maybe he was more detatched than he seemed? Hmm...

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sthenri
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posted July 14, 2005 06:53 AM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I can seem detached with Uranus trine Sun but it's just me killing those feelings,

for a while,

SG have you tried bonding with your guy at his house? air men are very sentimental about their homes and once you hang out there every weekend, then you are under their skins. Don't make the mistake of letting your house become a second home.

Thats my best advice, as for breaking someone that's not really love though, that comes from fear. Look at what you are most afraid of and hold it inside for a while around him. Don't be afraid.
(advice from my Aqua)

and love people who love you first

Natasha

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posted July 14, 2005 08:54 AM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Sorry, I’m too lazy today to read the whole thread

My best friend and brother both have Aqua Sun, Moon and Mercury. My friend has Libra rising and her Sun and Moon are in the fourth house - while my brother’s Sun and Moon are in the sixth house…his asc is Leo.

And you know what? They are so normal. They’re a little unique…but gosh I’m weirder than they are they’re both stubborn though ( except to me of course ) and curious. But that’s it. They’re also both left handed - thought I’d add that lol

Aquarian risings tend to act and dress really weird I like that but Aqua Suns are too worried what their friends will think…so they do their best to blend in.

“unpredictable, detached , odd or wacky”

Detached goes to Aquarian Suns and the rest to Aquarius rising. Just my experience...love them both tho

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Mama Mia
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posted July 14, 2005 12:20 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Mama Mia     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
WN maybe if you could see it from a romantic standpoint it might give you a better and clear understanding... My ex Aqua is a lefty too, alot of Aqua's are..

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