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geminirising26
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posted August 01, 2005 01:25 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Sun-Scorpio, thanks for posting that info, it is so true for me!

Small talk is one thing I have never mastered! It just feels so artificial and kind of like a waste of time a bit. And like you Loggerhead, people I am close to think I am really outspoken...(possibly talk too much) and witty!

I think it is very rare for me to be able to connect to people on an immediate level and it astonishes me how people can just strike up convos so easily! Maybe that is something that people with abundant air are able to do.

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Loggerhead
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posted August 01, 2005 01:51 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
You are right, GeminiRising, it's amazing how some people start up conversations easily, and also how they insert themselves into conversations that are already in progress, with the ease of people feeding into traffic lines. Amazing...

Another thing comes to mind: often times I only find out what I think if I write about it. In other words, my ideas develop on paper much more easily and more detailed than just verbally. Could this be related to no air??

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Mystic Gemini
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posted August 01, 2005 02:19 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Anyone else here with all the signs in there chart?

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posted August 01, 2005 03:15 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Lynx     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I have all of my planets in Air, then Fire, then one outer planet and my N. Node in water. The only earth I have is my South Node in Capricorn.

I would say there are some times in my life where I feel I would better cope if I were a bit more grounded..and other times I'm glad I'm not so earthy.

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Sun_Scorpion
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posted August 01, 2005 04:04 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Same Lynx! What do you make of this?

"Qualities from a Lack of Earth

Stephen Arroyo (ibid. pp.115-116) describes the condition of too little Earth as:

"Those having too little emphasis on the Earth element are not naturally attuned to the physical world, the physical body, or to the limitations and requirements of survival in the material plane. They can therefore be "spaced out," as they are not grounded in the here and now realization of their dependence on material things such as food, money, shelter, and other practical considerations. Such a person is often able to ignore the requirements of surviving in the material world and tends to fight "growing up" and accommodating himself to harsh necessities until he is forced to do so by the impinging demands of the reality he’d prefer to ignore. This lack of contact with the material world and with the physical dimension of reality can lead to the person feeling totally out of place in this world, with no grounding region is to provide him was support and solidity in his efforts to express himself. He often feels like he has no place to stand, doesn’t fit any niche in society’s structure, and often has trouble finding a life’s work that is satisfying. This feeling of being out of place in the world often leads these people to a search for direct experience with some dimension of life that seems more real to them, such as being active in the world of imagination or pursuing a spiritual quest in order to transcend the limitations of the material world once and for all. In other words, this lack of Earth can have very beneficial effects, for the person accepts no limitations on to what is possible, either spiritually of in his creative efforts. The imagination can run wild, and this can at times lead to fruitful results, but only if the individual has at least learned to accept the basic requirements of earthly living.

"A lack of Earth can also lead to ignoring the requirements of the physical body. Their physical needs seem to them rather secondary, if indeed they are considered at all; and hence, they often forget to eat, exercise, and rest at regular intervals. One often finds a poor skin tone, an indication that the life energy is not strongly vitalizing the physical vehicle, whereas those with a great emphasis on Earth often have especially oily and active skin with good tone and color. Those with a lack of Earth can benefit immeasurably by consciously cultivating a regular schedule in their lives, setting aside definite periods for eating in a relaxed way, exercising moderately, and getting sufficient rest. In other words, by consciously accepting the limitations of the physical world, the can master it and make use of the sustaining power of the Earth. It may be useful to mention here that although one may lack Earth sign emphasis, strong aspects with Saturn can in many ways offset the problematic side of this imbalance."

Details at Amazon.com

In their book The Only Way to Learn Astrology: Math and Interpretation Techniques (p.56), Marion March & Joan McEvers describe lack of Earth as:

"… an individual whose feet are not on the ground, who has trouble holding on to money because it doesn't mean much, someone who dreams impossible dreams but rarely puts these dreams to practical use. And most difficult of all, these people find it hard to differentiate between that which really matters ("mater" is quite Earthy and practical) and that which is unimportant and passing. The make mountains out of molehills, and rarely have time to get right down to the nitty-gritty. Writer Zelda Fitzgerald, ever zany, ever flitting, always seeking and rarely finding, well represents this type of lack. Famous personalities with no Earth, but quite a few planets in houses of substance include authors Mark Twain, Eugene O'Neil, and Arthur Miller, reporter Ernie Pyle, the Duchess of Windsor and baseball star Joe di Maggio. These people grope for reality, but usually manage to find facets of it."

From a great website with info about excess Earth in a chart too, check it out! http://www.astrodatabank.com/AS/ASEarth.htm

Uh.. Mystic Gemini...: "Please remember that everyone has every sign somewhere in their horoscope."

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Mystic Gemini
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posted August 01, 2005 07:05 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Uh.. Mystic Gemini...: "Please remember that everyone has every sign somewhere in their horoscope."


Really? Ummm There seems to be alot of people here that don't. Maybe you meant some people.....Not everyone.


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"You must live in the infinite blackness that exists when I close my eyes. I see you when I fall asleep, I see you when I dream."

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miss_muffet
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posted August 01, 2005 07:52 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I found this in bobmarksastrolger.com...

Lack of Air Signs occurs in the horoscope of the Rev. Jim Jones. He had the Air sign Libra on his Mid-Heaven which increased his "charm". His led his followers into mass suicide in Guyana. Actor Sal Mineo had no air whatsoever and he made his living communicating. What lack of air really means is a dislike of "small talk". Every word has to be significant.

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pixelpixie
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posted August 01, 2005 11:29 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for pixelpixie     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I know what Sun Scorpio Meant....
The chart is divided in twelve, starting from the ascendant, and goes counter clockwise around, with each sign represented, even if there is no planet in a particular sign.
Sometimes (though not in equal house) there will be a cusp of one at the same sign as a cusp before it thereby 'skipping' a sign.... But it is still there, just not written out as such, as the degrees don't have as much significance in interpretation ( depending, again)
But yes, Everyone has every sign in their chart.
It may just be unaspected or untennanted by a planet. Keep in mind the ruler of that planet though has significance in aspect.




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Mystic Gemini
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posted August 02, 2005 12:41 AM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Planetary positions

Sun Gemini
Moon Taurus
Mercury Gemini
Venus Taurus
Mars Libra
Jupiter Scorpio
Saturn Libra
Uranus Sagittarius
Neptune Sagittarius
Pluto Libra
True Node Cancer

House positions (Placidus)


Ascendant Cancer SELF


2nd House Leo POSESSIONS


3rd House Virgo COMMUNICATIONS


Imum Coeli Libra HOME


5th House Scorpio CREATIVITY


6th House Sagittarius SERVICE AND HEALTH


Descendant Capricorn MARRIAGE


8th House Aquarius DEATH AND REGENERATION


9th House Pisces MENTAL EXPLORATION


Medium Coeli Aries CAREER


11th House Taurus HOPES,WISHES,FRIENDS


12th House Gemini SELF-UNDOING


COOL


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cancerrg
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posted August 02, 2005 07:29 AM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
moonduchess : cancers can be quite intimidating despite thier shyness and all , they are quite dominant ( especially the women , they like to be dominant in relations) didn't u ever feel like this?

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Sun_Scorpion
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posted August 02, 2005 09:33 AM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Thanx Pixie

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MoonDuchess88
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posted August 02, 2005 09:46 AM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Cancerrg,

Yeah, I know what you mean, it's more like I don't like to be bossed around because I HAVE to have my dignity. Ever felt that way?
And to think Im interested in a scorpio and have a saggitarian best friend...

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cancerrg
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posted August 04, 2005 02:39 AM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
COINCIDENCE !!!!!!!!

i find scorp to be very respecting ( i think they know the best way to respect someone , we gotta learn this from them ) thats why i like them ..

and sags , quite uncomplicated people . though i have known sags in the last few years only but we get along quite well . earlier my friends basically were water people and libras but in the last six yrs . gems and sags have made a big entry .

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aries-chick
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posted August 04, 2005 02:59 AM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote

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aries-chick
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posted August 04, 2005 03:00 AM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
my browser's a meanie

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aries-chick
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posted August 04, 2005 03:00 AM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
a triple posting big fat meanie

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MoonDuchess88
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posted August 04, 2005 08:29 AM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
The only problem I have w/ the scorp is that he's stubborn and it doesn't help that I am too. Its like one struggle after another...sometimes he would give in! *I forgot to mention, a psychic said he was very important, but wouldn't let on to anything else cause I didn't pay

w/ the sag, the only problem I have w/ her she enjoys telling other ppl when theyre wrong but hates it to be reversed. She's a bit self righteous-it kinda gets annoying, plus we both have hot tempers. She makes very big errors in judgement especially w/ men. Other than that, she's easy to get along with and very friendly.
But not all my sag friends are like that (and I know quite a few)

whoa, another coincidence..I have alot of gemini friends too!

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cancerrg
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posted August 05, 2005 06:20 AM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
what about libras ?


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a psychic said he was very important, but wouldn't let on to anything else cause I didn't pay

typical cancer ! save the money campaign ,huh!

yeah , u are very correct about sags too .
actually , i got this confirmed from my sag friends themselves .
when they get into an argument , thier first instinct is to win it anyhow even if the topic gets diverted or the arguments being given are nonsensical .
secondly, if this has been understood that the other person is also putting logical arguments and they understand that they wont be able to win , they 'll simply try to put an end adruptly while putting the blame on u . thats thier very simple way .
actaully this happened to me here at this forum only , then i checked it with my sag friends ( wellllll , they were honest enough to accept it , thier straightfrwardness , that makes them likeable!) in simple words , thats thier selfrighteousness .
any guesses , if selfrighteousness is associted with anyother sign too , in the way it is with sags ?

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MoonDuchess88
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posted August 05, 2005 10:14 AM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
"typical cancer ! save the money campaign ,huh"

In actuality, I didn't even intend to get read, she really doesn't have a practicing bussiness license...so I should really call her a clairvoyant. I met her through my sag friend oddly enough. She works @ the mall selling lotion. She says that the reason she charges ( only 20 U.S. dollars) is because she has to support a child on the way. I told her I didnt have any money (I was FLAT broke last June)so I couldn't read, but she insisted I borrowed money from somebody,as if she REALLY wanted to tell me something. So she made a deal w/ me; she'd give me the reading but would leave some stuff out and I'd have to come back w/ 10 dollars for the rest of the reading. So she kept asking me wether I had a boyfriend (I said no), a man in my life (I said, "not really"), or if there was somebody I was interested in(I finally said yes) and thats how we got into scorpio...that he's improtant,and that its real. but you could say I knew that arrgh, Im crazy about him

"any guesses , if selfrighteousness is associted with anyother sign too , in the way it is with sags ?"


I've got ONE answer for you....Hardcore Leos w/ a cause (even a false one)
Yeah, sags are blunt, that's the one thing they ALL have in common

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moonstar77
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posted August 05, 2005 07:08 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for moonstar77     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I have this problem too. I have Gem rising, and that's it. I can't stand small talk. Sorry if I sound uptight, but I hate that whole "how was your weekend?" question. It's a pet peeve of mine when someone asks you that question and you've done nothing that *specific* weekend and they went sailing or something. It makes you feel like you have no life! BUT then, they never ask you how YOUR weekend was when THEY do nothing (like if you went to some festival or something and had a great time, but they probably will never know because lack of air people hate small talk!)

(ok I've been looking all day for somewhere to vent that LOL. It felt good.)

On the intelligence topic, I noticed that I can't stand people thinking I'm stupid lol. I think it's really due to my Gem rising and how I want to be perceived. I strive to become as educated as possible and know my "stuff" in the field that I work in, above and beyond most people. It works well in gaining respect and I even use intelligence as my weapon if it seems like someone is trying to take advantage of me in some way. To me, I feel balanaced out with my Earth, Water, and Fire signs. But since I have a lack of air, I feel insecure in my intelligence (not that I'm actually stupid, I'm just not as confident) so I usually go looking for information to make sure I don't look stupid in the end and am not wrong in any way. I can't stand looking stupid. That's an insecurity that stems from lack of air I think. Yet, when I do feel like I've conquered my sense of unknowing, I feel more confident than ever.

The people I'm close to find me very funny and I'm chattering away with them. But with acquaintances..eh. I wish I had some planets in Libra. It would help more with small talk and casual friendship/relationship type of things. Plus it's in my 5th, so it'd help me be more expressive. :/

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cancerrg
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posted August 06, 2005 03:16 AM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
20 u.s. dollars , thats big money here , almost a thousand bucks here so its good that u saved it

LEOS : known just afew ,that too not very closely , so can't say really .
what do u think about aries and oh , cancers?

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MoonDuchess88
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posted August 06, 2005 09:08 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Oh wow, I wasn't aware of the money thing over in India!Its not exactly pocket change over here either, but ppl think nothing of it though.

As for aries, the only ones I know are girls and theyre are really nice (except for one), I think IF they have a watered down personality you'd probably get on well. Then there are two of my brothers who happen to be twins, theyre like walking cyclones.

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cancerrg
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posted August 07, 2005 02:25 AM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
never got the chance to understand them !!!
though my own bro-in-law one.

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gemini girl
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posted August 10, 2005 03:27 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
thank god im not the only one im so anti academics its sickening i love learning new stuff but i get bored so if i dont get it the first time round unless it really intrigues me i aint taking another look only air i have is gem sun chiron gem rest all water fire here and there love fire ppl and need water round me i love talking though who can blame me afterall i am a gemini c ya

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