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geminirising26
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posted July 29, 2005 07:27 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I have no planets in signs of air...except my gemini rising I suppose adds a bit of air.. I think I read that limited or no air can suggest a lack of focus on intelligence..although this does not mean the person is idiotic! Anyone else got a chart with little air...or any sites that explain this?

Thanks!

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nove731
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posted July 29, 2005 07:39 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for nove731     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Hrm. I have very little in air, too. :-P I have my Mars and North Node in Aquarius, and my MC in Gemini. But. Um. That's it.

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LILYGIRL
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posted July 31, 2005 12:10 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I wouldn't worry too much about one air. I mean consider the following:


Dustin Hoffman Zero Air
Matisse 1 Air
Madonna 1 Air
Beethhoven 1 Air (believe or not no water either)
Marie Curie --1 Air (very watery)
Ghandi - 1 Air
Johnny Depp 1 Air (and only 1 Fire, 1 Water) rest earth ...yes he is a Gemini...

So they all seem fairly intelligent creative folks to me. LOL. Of course there is Osama Bin Laden (one air) and well Saddam Hussein (no air) .... devestatingly cruel but not necessarily dumb...


For more:
http://www.khaldea.com/chartgallery.shtml

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sue g
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posted July 31, 2005 02:27 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I have very little air, that is why I am so thick LOL!!!

No seriously I just have Chiron in Aqua and Libra on the dec, Well I have lots of water and I am a very feely and emotionally intelligent peson HA HA. When I was a kid I use to notice things about people which others probably would miss, but I never used to concentrate on my schoolwork for too long!! My parents used to say I would make a good spy (thats very Scorp isnt it)?


I think it seems more fashionable these days to be emotionally brilliant doesnt it - yeah who cares about fecking academics and intellect in the traditional sense anyhow??

Ignore me today, I have PMS and it makes me a bit mad - whats new???

Love to all


Sue xx

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sue g
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posted July 31, 2005 02:29 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Ooooohh Johnny lovely Depp, very very earthy, now wouldnt you just wanna.....................xx

Does anyone know what earth - does he have any Virgo in there - for some reason I seem drawn to the Virginal ones LOL !!!

X X xxxx

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Bluemoon
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posted July 31, 2005 02:34 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I am Aqua Moon, Libra dec, 3rd house gemini, 11 house aqua, True node, Libra.

I guess I am a bit of an Air Head..

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LILYGIRL
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posted July 31, 2005 02:58 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Sue..

He has 3 planets in Virgo including Va Va Va Venus and Mr. Mars...he's a little freaky but I can get with it...hot...LOL.....He's all earth all the time....

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sue g
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posted July 31, 2005 03:05 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Aaahh thanks girl for that, you are a good un to come back and let me know - VIRGO - I knew it - my hubbie is a little weird too - I love that in a man, but then again I am a very strange woman at times.

When I was 11 I bought my first record by Deep Purple and guess what it was called.......'STRANGE KINDA WOMAN" LOL!! That was definately a taste of things to come. Oh well at least I met my strange man to match.

Thanks again Lily, I love my Johnny even more now hee hee!!! Did you hear the way he laughed in Charlie and the Choccie film......ooohh something very very disturbing there, sorry my Scorpio darkness creeping in again.....Byeeeeee

xxx

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Mystic Gemini
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posted July 31, 2005 03:07 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I have all the signs of the zodiac in my chart.


P.s - Sorry ladies but Johnny's mine.


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Gemini sun, Cancer rising, mercury in Gemini, moon in Taurus, venus in Taurus, mars in Libra

"You must live in the infinite blackness that exists when I close my eyes. I see you when I fall asleep, I see you when I dream."

- Talib Kweli

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LILYGIRL
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posted July 31, 2005 03:11 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Sue,

I am laughing very hard. My husband works for a major newspaper here and we got press passes 10 days before the opening. He was very off putting in that movie, huh? It wa beautiful too watch. Now Johnny Depp in Chocolat....

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Mystic Gemini
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posted July 31, 2005 03:14 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I have that movie. lily girl im not surprised you would say it. we are practically astro twins.


P.s - I wish I was the actress juliette binochet played in chocolat.

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Gemini sun, Cancer rising, mercury in Gemini, moon in Taurus, venus in Taurus, mars in Libra

"You must live in the infinite blackness that exists when I close my eyes. I see you when I fall asleep, I see you when I dream."

- Talib Kweli

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taurean_scorpion
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posted July 31, 2005 03:17 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I've got no fire in my chart....

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Mystic Gemini
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posted July 31, 2005 03:27 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
The compatibility isn't to great though. That doesn't mean I sitll don't want him.


Horoscope for: Me Him J Add a New Person
Edit Data for 'J '
Partner: Me Him J Add a New Person
Edit Data for 'Me '

Short Report - Partner
for J , born on 9 June 1963
and Me , born on 19 June 1982

Text by Robert Hand
Copyright © Astrodienst AG 2000

Introduction
Sun in the Eleventh House * Sun Opposition Saturn * Moon in the Eighth House * Moon Opposition Mars * Venus in the Tenth House
The Data Page

Introduction

This report is a short edition of your and your partner's AstroText Partner. It is meant as a sample and advertisement for the full version of AstroText Partner which can be ordered from Astrodienst as a bound report of about 20 - 30 pages.

In the short edition, only a few, but nevertheless important aspects of your natal chart are considered. The short version concentrates more on the positive aspects of this relationship.


Sun in the Eleventh House

The composite Sun here indicates that no matter what the purpose of the relationship, the two of you will be able to get along with each other.

It is an especially good placement for marriage, because in the long run, friendship is one of the most important elements in cementing a marital relationship.

The Sun in this position is a good indication that you will share common hopes for the future, and you will work together to attain them, which is a desirable trait in any relationship.

A well-placed eleventh-house Sun indicates that the two of you can function as a small group in your own right and that together you will find it easy to relate in larger groups.

With this placement, even a business or professional relationship is likely to develop a strong personal dimension as well.


Sun Opposition Saturn

Sun opposition Saturn in the composite chart presents real problems: temperaments so different as to cause difficulties, a tendency to work against rather than with each other, a tendency for one of you to inhibit and limit the other unnecessarily, and excessive criticism of each other.

It is possible for a relationship with this configuration to survive, but several conditions must be met. First, criticism must be limited to really important problems. Second, the relationship should be open enough so that you can get away from each other in your daily lives and lessen the tension between you. Third, the two of you must broaden your viewpoints and become more tolerant of what you reject in each other. And fourth, you must have feelings of genuine love or friendship for each other.


Moon in the Eighth House

This is a position of transformation, which means that your relationship will undergo extensive changes, partly because of what you will learn about yourselves, partly because of the pressure of your emotions.

In addition, this placement of the Moon in the composite chart makes you very concerned with values. Your shared values may be purely on a psychological level, or they might exist more on the material plane as a great concern for possessions and property.

The greatest strength of this Moon placement is the contribution it can make to your self- understanding. Its greatest difficulty is the tendency to emphasize the heavy, moody aspects of your relationship and to dwell excessively on serious matters. Explore the new and constantly changing features of your life together, and welcome such changes instead of fearing them.


Moon Opposition Mars

The opposition of the Moon and Mars can be a very explosive aspect in a composite chart. It is an indication of anger and hostility breaking out, which can transform any kind of relationship into open warfare.

One certainty is that you will never have to worry about repressing your feelings when you ought to express them. The problem is to make the expression creative, so that it can help the two of you grow, instead of just being a destructive outburst.

When difficulties arise, try to keep calm for a little while and make some kind of rational sense out of what is happening. When people with this combination do blow up, it's all over with quickly, because all the negative energy is expended. But because the energies arise so often, quite a bit of damage occurs anyway.

Expressing your real feelings honestly is essential with this aspect. Simply try to keep it under control.


Venus in the Tenth House

Your experience of love within this relationship will very strongly affect the lives of both of you.

On the psychological level, this relationship will aid both of you in discovering what you want to do with your lives. Loving each other should reinforce you and give you greater confidence in yourselves.

At the same time, this relationship will teach you about the nature of love and how you relate to others on an intimate personal level. The only way you can learn what living with another person means is by doing so.


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AstroText Partner - Short Edition

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for J (male)
born on 9 June 1963 local time 12:00 noon
in Kentucky, KY (US) U.T. 17:00
83w45, 36n42 sid. time 04:34:22
PLANETARY POSITIONS
planet sign degree house
Sun Gemini 18°08'17 10
Moon Capricorn 15°00'08 05
Mercury Taurus 25°21'05 09
Venus Taurus 26°12'38 09
Mars Virgo 03°16'10 12
Jupiter Aries 13°59'37 08
Saturn Aquarius 23°04'43 06
Uranus Virgo 01°34'48 12
Neptune Scorpio 13°24'46 03
Pluto Virgo 09°37'49 12/1
True Node Cancer 20°37'57 11


HOUSE POSITIONS (Placidus)
Ascendant Virgo 12°24'00
2nd House Libra 07°42'00
3rd House Scorpio 07°22'45
Imum Coeli Sagittarius 10°12'57
5th House Capricorn 13°30'02
6th House Aquarius 14°36'12
Descendant Pisces 12°24'00
8th House Aries 07°42'00
9th House Taurus 07°22'45
Medium Coeli Gemini 10°12'57
11th House Cancer 13°30'02
12th House Leo 14°36'12

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and Me (female)
born on 19 June 1982 local time 07:49 am
in New York, NY (US) U.T. 11:49
74w00, 40n43 sid. time 00:42:31
PLANETARY POSITIONS
planet sign degree house
Sun Gemini 27°52'09 12
Moon Taurus 29°31'58 11
Mercury Gemini 07°46'37 11
Venus Taurus 22°54'09 11
Mars Libra 08°19'27 03
Jupiter Scorpio 00°32'22 04
Saturn Libra 15°29'54 04
Uranus Sagittarius 01°34'37 05
Neptune Sagittarius 25°36'24 06
Pluto Libra 24°10'45 04
True Node Cancer 13°22'33 12


HOUSE POSITIONS (Placidus)
Ascendant Cancer 27°29'48
2nd House Leo 17°27'11
3rd House Virgo 11°17'51
Imum Coeli Libra 11°33'31
5th House Scorpio 18°15'37
6th House Sagittarius 25°34'35
Descendant Capricorn 27°29'48
8th House Aquarius 17°27'11
9th House Pisces 11°17'51
Medium Coeli Aries 11°33'31
11th House Taurus 18°15'37
12th House Gemini 25°34'35

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Composite Horoscope midpoint method
PLANETARY POSITIONS
planet sign degree house
Sun Gemini 23°00'13 11
Moon Pisces 22°16'03 08
Mercury Gemini 01°33'51 10
Venus Taurus 24°33'24 10
Mars Virgo 20°47'48 02
Jupiter Capricorn 22°16'00 06
Saturn Sagittarius 19°17'19 05
Uranus Libra 16°34'43 03
Neptune Sagittarius 04°30'35 04
Pluto Libra 01°54'17 02
True Node Cancer 17°00'15 11


HOUSE POSITIONS (Placidus)
Ascendant Leo 19°56'54
2nd House Virgo 12°34'35
3rd House Libra 09°20'18
Imum Coeli Scorpio 10°53'14
5th House Sagittarius 15°52'50
6th House Capricorn 20°05'24
Descendant Aquarius 19°56'54
8th House Pisces 12°34'35
9th House Aries 09°20'18
Medium Coeli Taurus 10°53'14
11th House Gemini 15°52'50
12th House Cancer 20°05'24

Oh Oh he has venus in taurus also. That's triple the possessiveness.


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Gemini sun, Cancer rising, mercury in Gemini, moon in Taurus, venus in Taurus, mars in Libra

"You must live in the infinite blackness that exists when I close my eyes. I see you when I fall asleep, I see you when I dream."

- Talib Kweli

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geminirising26
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posted July 31, 2005 07:32 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Lol....ahh, good ole Johnny Depp. Hot. It must be that Uranus in the first...it sets him apart..such and original! That is why I like him. He is really talented.

Anyway, I thought it was odd that I'd have no air except Gemini rising which counts a lot, considering I am BIG on education and academics.

But I agree, with you Sue G, I think nowadays people are not as impressed with intellectual intelligence, and that emotional intelligence and esp street smarts, are something people value more.

Me, well, I try to be adept at both! lol.

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alanabelle86
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posted July 31, 2005 07:50 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for alanabelle86     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
one earth, one air here.


i'm loaded with water and fire though, so I guess you can say I'm a walking cycle of emotional evaporation and precipitation

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aries-chick
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posted July 31, 2005 09:28 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Hi geminirising,

I only have my gemini asc in air as well. Everything else is mainly earth/water and some fire.

This is what Bob Marks has to say about it ..

quote:
Well Bill Gates, world’s richest man and the founder of Microsoft, has no planets in Earth Signs. Impractical? Not worldly? What are those superficial interpretations missing? If a sign that belongs to that missing element happens to sit on one of the Angles of your horoscope (the Ascendant, Mid-Heaven, Descendant, or Nadir) you can make up for that deficit big time. Gates’ horoscope, the Earth Sign Capricorn, appears on the Descendant. Capricorn specifically rules organizational ability, efficiency, and persistence. It is said that Gates thinks that taking a vacation is a sign of weakness and that time off for him means time to catch up on his reading.

full article - http://bobmarksastrologer.com/EmptyElement12.1.htm

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LILYGIRL
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posted July 31, 2005 10:25 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Totally agree. Try allegedly having only 1 water...then having an exceedingly sensitive vertex in Cancer, your South Node in Pisces and a Water singleton in neptune/scorpio. That's why I don't give just looking at the basic planets a ton of credence. It is shocking to me sometimes how much impact these other things can have.

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MoonDuchess88
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posted July 31, 2005 11:26 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
yeah, the only air I got is my unaspected venus singleton in gemini in the 5th. Its the only "light" placement in my whole entire chart

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AcousticGod
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posted July 31, 2005 11:57 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for AcousticGod     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Plus you have that singleton aspect, right? ...where since it's your only one it's more prominent. My singleton figured higher in the power signs in that one thread than my sun sign did.

I also have just one water Lily. It's my Scorpio in Mars. There's also Ceres and Pallas in Scorp, and S. Node in Cancer. Of course, I have no idea what Ceres and Pallas are about.

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Loggerhead
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posted August 01, 2005 12:16 AM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Also no air here, except Chiron in Aqua. But Mercury conj. Asc. fools people every time, haha.

Seriously though, I read somehwere that nobody is completely without an element. There is always something there, it just might not be a planet, but an asteroid or whatever. And also, what about midpoints? They are important too.

I wouldn't worry about it, though at one point I did. I was kind of embarrassed about it. But nobody ever went "eeewww, you must not have any planet in air..." So...

Anyway, that was a long time ago...

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Loggerhead
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posted August 01, 2005 12:20 AM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Also no air here, except Chiron in Aqua. But Mercury conj. Asc. fools people every time, haha.

Seriously though, I read somehwere that nobody is completely without an element. There is always something there, it just might not be a planet, but an asteroid or whatever. And also, what about midpoints? They are important too.

I wouldn't worry about it, though at one point I did. I was kind of embarrassed about it. But nobody ever went "eeewww, you must not have any planet in air..." So...

Anyway, that was a long time ago...

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Sun_Scorpion
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posted August 01, 2005 10:22 AM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Lol... anyone want to swap a couple of Airs for some Earth!!?? I have only one Earth- Cappy in Neptune. (Also found out I have Vertex in Taurus but not sure if that counts!!??)
What would you like??! I have Rising/Pallas in Libra, Mars in Aqua, Moon/Chiron in Gemini!

Heres some info I found-
Actor Sal Mineo had no air whatsoever and he made his living communicating. What lack of air really means is a dislike of "small talk". Every word has to be significant.

Air-lacking people
People with few or no planets in Air signs in their natal chart often struggle to articulate their thoughts or ideas. They may also lack the social graces that mark the Air signs as the masters of small-talk, and they can find it difficult to get along with others easily or adapt to new ideas.
At worst, these people find it hard to distance themselves from, or anticipate the effect of, their actions.

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cancerrg
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posted August 01, 2005 11:20 AM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
got two earth , two libra .

and four water , three fire .
i feel mine is pretty spread out equqlly , isn't it .

ok , my query - what does true node means ( that too in libra)

what is the diff between south node and true node ? are they realted to last birth or something?

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MoonDuchess88
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posted August 01, 2005 11:24 AM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
yeah AG you could be right. Maybe that's why Im totally different w/ ppl Im close to. My own sister calls me immature(can you imagine? me, a cancer sun/cappy asc, immature), my love interest thinks Im a sweetheart (wonder how he came to that conclusion), and all my closest friends think Im very playful(suprisingly )

but they all say when they first saw me they were scared to step cuz they found me intimidating (in other words, they thought I was a ***** ). So I guess my venus IS prominent after all-in close relationships.

*Sun_Scorp,

I have tons of earth for you

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Loggerhead
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posted August 01, 2005 12:15 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Sun_Scorpion, you are so right. Small talk is definitely not in my repertory of b***s***. This makes social contact difficult at times, to the point where I feel shy and out of place, when in reality, I am one of the most opinionated people I know. It just isn'r fair..(whine..)
At least, I don't usually have trouble articulating my ideas.

LILYGIRL, thanks for naming names. I feel even better now that I know that Dustin Hoffman has no air either. He's one of the greatest!

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