posted August 05, 2005 03:57 AM            

Sun Capricorn 16°38'18 08 direct
Moon Taurus 29°33'12 01 direct
Mercury Sagittarius 27°50'16 07/8 retrograde
Mercury is technically near the end of house 7 and is interpreted in house 8.
Venus Sagittarius 00°30'01 07 direct
Mars Scorpio 20°14'06 06 direct
Jupiter Scorpio 28°48'27 07 direct
Saturn Taurus 15°47'24 12 retrograde
Uranus Libra 13°30'39 05 direct
Neptune Sagittarius 02°11'32 07 direct
Pluto Virgo 29°41'55 04 retrograde
True Node Aquarius 24°15'54 09 retrograde

posted August 05, 2005 04:11 AM              

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They need a better mom.

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What the @££$$$&=? They need YOU!!!!
Don't let anyone to manipulate into thinking anything else.

Where that yesterday's New Moon hit your chart??

posted August 05, 2005 05:13 AM            

My heart goes out to you. I send prayers and light your way. I have been there.
It will pass,
slowly maybe,
painfully, perhaps
but it will all pass

I don't find you manipulative and cruel i think your honesty is refreshing. It is kind of like a chicago winter day- you step outside and blasts you full force, hits you so hard it takes your breath away and almost sends a deep pain into your lungs, but when it's gone it made you remember what it felt like to breathe. You knew you were alive in that moment. I get that from you when i read your poetry or what you write. It is so honest and raw it is moving and true. That is who you are, don't punish yourself for it.

posted August 05, 2005 10:33 AM            

I am so brutally honest sometimes. I mean brutal.
I am still married.
So there's a start.
I hate broadcasting my pain all over, but I know that I needed to, even though it's subdued now, now I see that I have placed it on several pages. Capricorn Moon wants to hide
I'm okay. It's okay. New Moon on my Ascendant. I beat myself up like Hell yesterday. No one else, just me. Something's gotta give. Hatred isn't something I can sustain indefinately. It needs to be replaced.

posted August 05, 2005 11:52 AM              

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Anyway, thanks for the words. I will re-re-re-assess my evil ways.

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i am not sending prayers (god never accepts mine ) BUT we all know u 'll come out triumphant .

btw, i saw your daughter's pic , she reallyyyyyyyyyyyyyy looks cute .

posted August 05, 2005 12:00 PM              

quote:

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Anyway, thanks for the words. I will re-re-re-assess my evil ways.

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i am not sending prayers (god never accepts mine ) BUT we all know u 'll come out triumphant .

btw, i saw your daughter's pic , she reallyyyyyyyyyyyyyy looks cute .

posted August 05, 2005 06:28 PM              

Very true!

posted August 07, 2005 05:32 PM              

But stay tuned, i will bump this and the aspects thread as soon as i have finished.

posted August 08, 2005 03:27 AM              

You have a natural flair and assertiveness, and are considered unusually pleasant. You do struggle with jealousy and revenge however. People find you to be a ‘strong’ personality to digest but are usually not offended. Occasionally when you do offend people, you will find a way to turn back the comment to once again make friendship, and although you would not be considered exactly ‘diplomatic’ but you are a people person and people admire your communicative capabilities.

You may have a very distinctive conversational style. It is possible that the phrases you use, vocabulary, tone, jokes and puns, expressions, and laugh are all very quirky and strange. It takes time for you to grow on people. You may have the natural capabilities of a witty writer or a stand up comedian. Sometimes you may jump to conclusions.

You may seem very poetic and Piscean at times, while being a strong communicator. You may attract men who are strong communicators as well, and maybe you have dated men who have been involved in public relations, advertising, writing etc. You’ve had an unusual home life, with offbeat parents having a very unconventional parenting style. Maybe your parents emphasized freedom, sensitivity, and quality of time spent over quantity.

Relationships are essential to your happiness and your relationships are bound to reflect your unusual attitudes towards society. You come from or create an unconventional family, and have an erratic relationship with your mother. You find it difficult to settle down, and when you do you will prefer to do things in your own way.

WHITERABBIT:

You have a novel attitude about philosophy, religion, and politics, at least as far as your family is concerned. You may be shockingly liberal. Its also possible that you have an ‘aquarian appearance.’ this most likely means that you wear a lot of blue, beautiful fabrics, and put together unlikely ensembles that hit it off, although you have a bit of a weird sense of fashion. People may consider you crazy or eccentric, partly because you are detached, and partly because you are intelligent, in a way that most people do not understand. It is possible that you play instruments and speak several different languages. Maybe you have an affinity for the ocean.

You are likely to be involved with a Sagittarius, or confront a conflict between traveling/exploring/fun, and establishing a stable career/home/family life. The man best for you is one that is stable, and prosperous. You are likely to be an almost masculine, fatherly influence on your children, and you may make very strong, masculine decisions especially early on in life.

The kind of men you have dated will possibly have trouble with authority and tradition, and may hurt your feelings. It is possible that the men you have dated have been disliked by both your parents, and have control issues. You can be idealistic about the big picture, and a lot of times this is what motivates you. It is a good kind of idealism, because you make it your reality.

posted August 08, 2005 03:28 AM              

you may have a childhood and adulthood that are diametrically opposed by all means. Its also possible that your mother and father were radically different people or were opposite to each other. Your father may be unusual, or have an unusual parenting style but a good influence. Maybe your mother was aggressive and almost masculine in her parenting style. Yourself, you are quite home and family oriented. One of your parents may have had quite a liberal outlook on relationships and sex. This is likely to have an affect on your own marriage.

You may have had a macho tendency in your teens, or the tendency to acting out, and getting into arguments and sometimes even brawls. Its possible that you are very competitive, especially in sports. You pride yourself on being a mans man, and have set ideas about what the male psyche is, and how men are supposed to act.

Your career energizes you, and you’d like to be involved in some grand effort that takes strategy and wits, like a war or a social protest. You want to impact the world and buy into power hierarchies. You have a serious practical streak in you, and you can be distracted by pleasures of the flesh. You are likely to try to work your way up structured hierarchy in business or politics. Marriage can bring financial ups and downs in your life, and you may have sudden infatuations.

OBSERVER:

you have a natural tendency to be driven, and may often have had offensive arguments with your father, although never ones that would bring irreparable damage. You may be an aggressive father yourself, and have an unusual attitude towards sex and relationships.

Its possible that you have had one or several Scorpio lovers that have influenced you greatly. You are attracted towards Scorpios. You have a fascination with anything unusual and may attract very unusual friends throughout your life. It is also possible that you may be in relationships with unusually promiscuous women.

You are bound to have an unconventional view of philosophy, religion and politics. Your views may diverge from those of your family greatly. Maybe you will fall in love with someone outside of your culture. You are bound to have a very hectic, fast paced relationship/love life, with several different lovers. Once you get into relationships it is inevitable that you will always seem to be in one.

posted August 08, 2005 03:28 AM              

Your father may be motherly, and seem to take care of you in that way. It is also possible that he may try to intervene in your life a little ‘too much’. you may have quite an aggressive attitude towards sex and homemaking. The ideal of a perfect woman in your mind is one who is both traditional and a homemaker as well as a sex kitten. You have clear and stubborn ideas about family and home, and this is an emotional issue for you. You are possessive of your belongings and also of the women you will be in relationships with.

There may be unresolved mysteries in your family regarding money and inheritances. There may also be an underlying fascination with the occult. You may have an unusual attitude towards sex. Although you try to be traditional and disciplined, you always do strange acts and understand them later when you try to justify your behavior.

You are very outspoken about your religious and philosophical beliefs, and people think you are fiery in your expression. However, in solitude you are much more dark and pensive, and very emotional. Unexpected events in your life may turn things upside down, every few years. Be careful around cars and machinery, several famous figures have suffered major accidents or life threatening experiences with this placement (James Dean, President JFK), however several have also lived long healthy lives, it depends on how you deal with your affinity for risk and being safe at all times. You’re bound to have severe mood swings from time to time.

posted August 08, 2005 03:29 AM              

You have a very commanding personality and strong principles. Its possible that you inherited these principles from your father. Even if you did not get along with your father, it is possible that you may learn a lot indirectly from his example. It is the admiration of these principles that makes it difficult for you to truly enjoy yourself. Although you are bound to have a large social circle and several talents, which lead you to meeting several different kinds of people, you are always bound by some sort of sense of discipline and duty. You have a strong conscience and are a disciplined person, and will take a stand for justice even if it goes against your own personal interests. You’re bound to have completely eccentric views on many things, and a better than average understanding of technology and emerging fields such as genetics and biotechnology. You may have a demanding and exciting career, and you’d like to be famous. You are easily involved by large scale efforts such as humanitarian projects and war protests.

You may have bad luck trying to communicate in debates and arguments. It has nothing to do with your own communicative style, but other people’s perceptions of you. It is difficult for other people to understand you, but you are easily judged. This is most likely because of your confidence and high intelligence. You are also likely to make several air sign friends (Gem, Libra and Aqua). It is best if you keep communicators around you, because you need communicative connections so that you can express your feelings instead of sitting on them all the time.

You are likely to have an unstable marriage, and a fluid attitude about marriage and sex. Maybe you are attracted to gentler women, and look to women to bring positive change in your life besides being just partners. Overall women will be a source of happiness in your life, although it is difficult to deal with them sometimes. Women in your life will make you realize and embrace your deeply intuitive abilities, and perhaps give you humanitarian causes to work towards. It is possible that your deepest motivations in life have come from some female influence. It is also likely that there is extensive secret activities between yourself and women, of what sort its unclear--it could be through your career or personal life. You will marry an unconventional person, and you may both marry and divorce in record breaking time.

posted August 08, 2005 03:30 AM              

Sudden chances in appearance, particularly in your hair, may be a part of your norm. you are bound to face instability in your children, although your children will be brilliant people. You are overly emotional regarding children and have a strange drive to establish your career, which is admirable but also unusual for a female. You may have an unstable career, and work with your intuition and analytical abilities to a great degree.

You will probably have strange relationships with men, and sometimes a difficult time having children, sometimes with this placement it takes a while to have children. You should watch out for quick weight gain in your 30s and heart problems. Your tendency to internalize all blame and worry too much about how other people are doing, is one of the factors that may cause tension and health problems. You have an unusually striking appearance, and love the limelight. You may gain fame or notoriety unexpectedly, or have a brilliant but unstable career. It is also possible that your fertility/menstrual cycles are irregular. You are bound to have an unusual and perhaps even outrageous sex life. You should be careful around cars and machinery, sometimes this placement can cause severe accidents, although if you are careful and are safe at all times, the dangers of this aspect can be dealt with. You have a tendency to fall into unusual relationships. You may have a quick temper, which calms down quite quickly too. You may have had an unpredictable home life and try to compensate for it by bringing stability to your own family when you finally do settle down.

You have a natural charisma and assertiveness, and it is difficult to push you around. You are good at taking a stand. Although this is a harmonious placement, it can cause problems at home, with your mother in particular, who doesn’t know how to handle your enormous energy. There is a feeling/want of being considerate to other people, and a persistent childlike appearance. It is also likely that you have a short temper, and a love of sport and competition.

posted August 08, 2005 03:31 AM              

1. This person is bound to be active with a love of sports and competition. You are naturally assertive, not so submissive, and may have a good deep understanding with your father (as opposed to your relationship with your mother). However, your offbeat tendencies challenge the tradition of your culture and family, and perhaps the authority of your father. Throughout the years you may see your relationship with your father morph to one with a bit of awkwardness. Money and material objects fascinate you and you like stability in your career, or monetary gifts from your loved ones.

You get along well with both women and men and are known for your sharp tongue and getting into arguments. You may be very stubborn and not too open minded in debates. You are quick to anger but also cool down quickly. You have a very active sex appeal and sex life, and attract a great variety of potential partners. There may be obstacles in obtaining and saving money, and you may meet Taurus men, or meet men with strong appearances and sex appeal (or Scorpionic qualities) as you grow older. Your marriage may bring financial worries, and you may have an outrageous sex life. As you grow older, despite your principles, you are bound to lean towards overdoing things sometimes (gluttony, materialism, and sexual excess). Beware of these tendencies and try to keep healthy company around yourself.

2. This person is very gentle, and perhaps passive-aggressive under his/her dreamy surface. Especially in his or her childhood this person may have been ‘under-the-table manipulative’ or tended to back off from aggressive confrontations. However as this person grows older he/she is likely to become much more compromising, softhearted and perhaps take on a humanitarian cause.

This person is bound to have a very soft corner for animals, and the downtrodden in general. It is also possible that he/she has an eye for design and aesthetics, decoration, color etc. it is possible that this person has a very beautiful dress sense.

It is probable that this person has large beautiful eyes and an innocent appearance. It is possible that he/she also has dimples? They may seem to be a bundle of contradictions of softness and strength in what they believe in truly. There is also a tendency for males under these aspects to be feminine, and females to be masculine. He/she may have an unusual relationship with his/her father figure, a dislike of authority and rules, and may be very liberal but have insensitive views in communicative methods. He/she may yearn to learn about other cultures, and it is very possible he/she may speak several languages and travel frequently and unexpectedly. It is best on this person maintaining an independent career, and he/she has original viewpoints, as well as abundant opportunities in career. It could also possibly be the placement of a professional astrologer. He/she may fall deeply in love, be moody and restless, and his/her moods may be obvious to those he/she is closest to.

posted August 08, 2005 04:03 AM              

im sorry to hear that you're going through a difficult time...amisha was right on and i think the resilience in your natural personality will fight right back at those fleeting doubts. i think everyone here is at least a bit inspired by your practicality, sensitivity, and sense of humor. don't be harsh on yourself.... we all have faults and strengths, its what makes us human right. in any case i hope you didnt take my interpretation as tearing you down, in fact i was using a combination of a few books, one of which is quite dark and dreary. in all truth you do have very strong and difficult mars/uranus placements. traditional astrology considers both of these planets, and particularly uranus, scary ones anyway. so they tend to give kind of scary interpretations. in any case, what you do with these energies and how you handle them, is completely up to you. people with similar aspects can be totally opposite because they can use it to discourage or encourage themselves.

i hope that you feel better , your wonderful self

posted August 08, 2005 08:55 AM              

thanx

posted August 08, 2005 09:36 AM              

LILY:
"Sudden chances in appearance, particularly in your hair, may be a part of your norm."

Sort of. I wear my shoulder length long now, but have also had very extreme short pixie Halle Berry cuts too.

"You are bound to face instability in your children, although your children will be brilliant people. You are overly emotional regarding children.."

Yes this is true. They are both violin playing straight A types. Sweet and kind too. So I'm not sure how deserving I am of them. They are truly gifts. I am overly emotional. One has a chronic illness. Both I want to work hard and not waste the talent they have been blessed with...You know the lecture!! "smile"

" and have a strange drive to establish your career, which is admirable but also unusual for a female. You may have an unstable career, and work with your intuition and analytical abilities to a great degree. '

Yes and no. I have a fancy pants grad degree but put aside a lucrative career to rear the children. I am now the owner of a small but growing artisan business. It seems to be on the precipice of some exposure. Yet I have mixed feelings about whether I'm ready for that. I like my privacy and the quiet I have created here. I could use more cash though. LOL.

"You will probably have strange relationships with men, and sometimes a difficult time having children, sometimes with this placement it takes a while to have children."

One miscarriage but no problems having the other two. Very fertile for better or worse. Laugh. Yes! I did marry later than average and kids later. Strange relationships with men? Hmmm. I wish. Just kidding. I love men. I have had few but incredibly interesting and yes a little odd relationships with men. You know?? Like my platonic but very long term friendship with a priest. My current siutation with my doc. Most of my relationships with men have had high karmic learning curves...LOL

"You should watch out for quick weight gain in your 30s and heart problems. "

No heart problems. Thyroid cancer twice and finally have my weight back to a normal digit. But constant work.

"Your tendency to internalize all blame and worry too much about how other people are doing, is one of the factors that may cause tension and health problems."

True.

"You have an unusually striking appearance, and love the limelight. You may gain fame or notoriety unexpectedly, or have a brilliant but unstable career."

Except in my kitchen acting weird with my children, I do not like public attention. I have privacy issues. LOL. My career has been intriguing and yes unstable. Lodged in the middle of two gorgeous sisters, I never thought of myself as striking. The good thing about aging, however is that people or even your own child will suddenly tell you these things .And you think, huh? Really? Cool. Very cool.

"It is also possible that your fertility/menstrual cycles are irregular. "

27 day cycle baby. Very regular.

"You are bound to have an unusual and perhaps even outrageous sex life."

Wow. Now I wish this would start being true....

"You should be careful around cars and machinery, sometimes this placement can cause severe accidents, although if you are careful and are safe at all times, the dangers of this aspect can be dealt with."

I have a fear of driving.

"You have a tendency to fall into unusual relationships. You may have a quick temper, which calms down quite quickly too."

Yes this is true!!. What is that? And I attract fascinating lovely people who always have a deep dark horrible secret that they unleash on me two years into the friendship..I could have a big temper but control it stringently. In action it is quick and over with. I hate grudges and people who hold them...

"You may have had an unpredictable home life and try to compensate for it by bringing stability to your own family when you finally do settle down."

No. way too predictable. And very strict.

"You have a natural charisma and assertiveness, and it is difficult to push you around."

When I WAS QUITE young it was easier to push me around. Now I just no, alot! and I don't even care what people think when they hear the NO. LOL.

"You are good at taking a stand. Although this is a harmonious placement, it can cause problems at home, with your mother in particular, who doesn’t know how to handle your enormous energy."

Mom is dead, but I need alot of harmony. Can't abide lots of arguing, noise or disharmony.

There is a feeling/want of being considerate to other people, and a persistent childlike appearance.

It's the Gemini. And what's nice as I get older is that I find I am much more considerate, less judgemental. When I am happy I can get very ridiculously exuberant. This is exacerbated by Gem Sun, Sag Rising and a Jupiter in the 1st house.

It is also likely that you have a short temper, and a love of sport and competition.

There goes that temper again. I love all sorts of competition! Scrabble, cards football, baseball, volleyball...