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Peri
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posted September 28, 2005 02:35 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Peri     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
That’s interesting that earlier you had ASC in Aries, Mars conj Venus and Sun (on the cusp) in the XII
Now you have ASC in Pisces and Mars conj Venus and Sun (on ASC) in the Ist which still give you Arian traits! Yet you are double Pisces now isn't it cute?

Sun in the 1st:

With this placement of the Sun it is common to find the Moon in the houses of Relative or Universal consciousness, particularly VII & XI. The past life experience has involved working in conjunction with others; in the current lifetime there is a need to become more aware of self and more personally effective.
Unless it is stressfully aspected by Saturn, the Sun in this house confers a self-confidence, which is founded upon self-acceptance. A person with the Sun in the House I is a martyr neither to self-doubt nor, the approval of others, unless the Moon is in Libra or House VII. Yet there is nothing aggressive or competitive about this placement of the Sun; rather there is usually sufficient self-confidence for others not to appear threatening. This is after all, the Sun in the House of its Exhaltation!
A person with the Sun in House I expects - and gives - respect for what he is, as well as for what he does.

Venus in the 1st

Of the inner planets, when they are working through House I, only Venus and the Moon are particularly sensitive to the reaction of others. The ruler of Libra when found in the House of Aries, however, needs to impress itself favourably on others. For a person with Venus in House I, being acceptable to others is the cornerstone of his identity and he will usually seek to achieve this through a display of qualities that are known to please. As Venus in House I tends to confer classical good looks, he is usually assisted in this aim by an attractive appearance.

Mars in the 1st

With Mars in House I a person projects himself forcefully and usually with little regard for others (?? I guess your Piscean Sun ans ASC and Merc in the XII smooth this tendency). The sign in which Mars is found indicates the form which assertiveness takes. A person with Mars in House I defines himself according to his desires and is capable of rash and wilful behaviour as he goes in pursuit of them.

Moon in the VIIth


The Moon in the 7th House is an indication that the past life experience has been one in which partnerships were integral to the development. The memory of having been one of a partnership is usually so strong that a person with this placement tends to demonstrate a precocious interest in the opposite sex and frequently makes an early marriage. Only the overall pattern of the chart will indicate whether this desire to settle into a committed relationship can be made part of the present lifetime or whether there is a developmental need to strike out alone in order to develop a new facet of consciousness.
People with the Moon in H7 are likely to be born to parents who pulled together in their relationships and retained their enthusiasm for the partnership even after any early passion may have gone. People with the Moon in H7 tend to be comfortable in relating situations of all kinds from a very early age.


http://www.dkfoundation.co.uk/BookKarmaHouse1.htm

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It all depends on how we look at things, and not how they are in themselves.
Carl G. Jung

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WaterNymph
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posted September 28, 2005 03:44 AM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Extremely late…I’m supposed to leave and head to central London 20 mins…ago Will give decent replies - sorry.

BUT Gemini Nymph - with all due respect…you don’t know me.

How do you know whether I rejected my upbringing or not? Were YOU there?
I did - I basically created a war in my home during my early teen. Didn’t make it easy on anyone - I was extremely difficult. Now I’ve matured.

“Don't blame your mother when you could have taken it upon yourself to confirm your own birth time.”
She lost the damn papers!

“I also doubt you actually reject your upbringing - if you did, you wouldn't give a rat's *ass what your mother thought about things like astrology.”
I don’t understand what your saying? She knows I’m into astrology…what upsets me - is that she’s trying to change me.
While I’m living in her house - I’ll give her the respect she deserves. Financially it’s smart for me to stay with her until I get a decent Job. Graduates don’t get paid well.
it’s pointless to argue with her. She loves it - I don’t. I don’t see the point…it’s just time consuming.

What? Do you have to put your mother through hell to get considered some sort of “rebel” please whatever - don’t pigeon hole me.

“Sorry, but I'm just not in a very sympathetic mood.”
Darling I don’t NEED you pity

I didn’t read through your whole post - just scanned. I know I’m being immature by typing while I’m p***** - but you seem to be the type who can handle it

Lots of love hun

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Cassy
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posted September 28, 2005 04:39 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Cassy     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
WN, that was definitely your Aries influence coming to the party.

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WaterNymph
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posted September 28, 2005 09:41 AM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
lol Cassy
I try to keep that part of me under control - I mean…you get more bees with honey lol guess today I'm vinegar.

Tula “It's important to remember that not only can mothers be wrong about birth times, but technology is also fallible and watches and clocks often will be off by several minutes”
I’ve thought about this a lot - also at what point should the birth time be taken. When the head starts coming out…I’m not sure. But Pisces rising fits me much better…it feels right.

“In my case, I consulted both Placidus and Equal systems and determined that the planetary positions for Equal were more correctly representative of myself.”

Wow I tried Equal. Everything is the same - except Jupiter & Uranus are in the 10th.

deepwanderer - Piscean suns and Moons…honestly, what are we going to do with em her memory is notorious. If something is important - she’ll never forget - everything else…*sigh* aww best of luck with finding your birth time…at least when you find it, you’ll know it’s right.

MNF “Sometimes, your own personal judgement can shatter the illusion incorrect interpretations will give you! Which I think's pretty darn inspirational!“ oh yes that’s me jp
You’ve got Leo Venus…sweet my fav sign.

Zala yay a new club

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WaterNymph
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posted September 28, 2005 09:43 AM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Histrionix “why are we so damn eager to be represented in a better light, when really it makes no difference to who we really are?”
I have no idea…it is funny though - I was acting like my DNA changed along with my birth time. “I now have green eyes and come from Greece.” Altho that would be nice.
Way warmer and less depressing than where I’m from.

“Best of luck to you in accepting yourself as you really are” thanks hun - and yay, another member to the club.

Tigerlily “Look at astrology as a guide instead of a life sentence” I used to see it that way too - I don‘t know why I‘m feeling this way. I don’t know - maybe I see the negativities as my future…the person I might become.

“Now you have a new filter through which to explore yourself. Anything new in your chart that you see as negative was always there; nothing has changed except your perception.” very true - nothing has changed but my perception. The truth is…I had come to terms with my flaws with the wrong chart - now I have all these thing I have to deal with…again.

“The challenges are opportunities to grow. And if you study the aspects and learn about them and learn to recognize how they might manifest in you and in your life, you're forewarned about that potential and tendency and you then have the opportunity to conciously watch for that in yourself. You will become more informed and can therefore make more concious choices on how you behave, act, react, etc.”
Your post is very insightful - thanks for helping me clear my head.

lovely* “The 9th is the most beneficial, natural placement for Jupiter especially in Sag~” sweet…things are looking up.

Peri I LOVE that fish. I don’t know whether to hug it or bite it. I’m liking the double Pisces.
Sun in the first also makes you seem very Leo like. The confidence is fake. I can convince God almighty that I’m bursting with the stuff - it’s a total act. There to protect the ego.

“For a person with Venus in House I, being acceptable to others is the cornerstone of his identity and he will usually seek to achieve this through a display of qualities that are known to please.” So first house Venus does give you Libra traits…it’s true - I’m a people pleaser lol


“I guess your Piscean Sun ans ASC and Merc in the XII smooth this tendency” it does…this is where astrology gets confusing - Venus in the 1st…people pleaser - Mars in the 1st…people…..um annoyer?

“A person with Mars in House I defines himself according to his desires and is capable of rash and wilful behaviour as he goes in pursuit of them.” oh my gosh - that’s my teenhood in a nutshell…I hope I’m more mature now - or no one will employ me lol.
It's strange, for some reason I'm missing my 12th house Venus & Mars.

Thank you for that Peri darling…I bookmarked the site.

Thanks for all the replies guys

One thing I wanted to add Gemini Nymph - the Pisces Moon thing was a joke - why would I bash my…or any Moon sign? If ever I say something like that - it’s a joke.

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The Mutable Night Force
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posted September 28, 2005 02:24 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for The Mutable Night Force     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
WOW, WN.
You replied to everyone! That's pretty special. I always try but rarely succeed. It's a nice thing to appreciate replies
And thank you!
(I like Water Ascendants big time! They are lovely lookin' people!)

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Lauren
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posted September 30, 2005 01:48 AM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
HEY, guess what? your Asc is almost exactly conjunct my Jupiter now lol

I forgot to say Congrats on the new asc..I'm bumping the thread, cause I haven't been around

so Happy Ascendant Birthday lol

I love water ascendants as well. They're usualy very beautiful and alluring in a very feminine way.. you lucky girl heehee

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WaterNymph
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posted September 30, 2005 05:03 AM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
“It's a nice thing to appreciate replies” Venus in the 1st - people pleaser
I respect everyone here…and if they’re kind enough to help me out - I’m honoured.

“HEY, guess what? your Asc is almost exactly conjunct my Jupiter now lol” no way...cool

lol Lauren @ asc Birthday

Thanks for the compliments girls…the Leo inside me loves you

I just remembered something. Waaaaay before I discovered LL and astro.com - I had no idea what my asc was ( although I did think it could be Aries because of a book I had ). So I got a couple of friends to read each asc’s description…and asked them which suited me best?

They all thought Taurus was right - if not that, then Pisces - but nothing else. Guess I’m real laid back
In relationship signs…quite some time back…I wrote my asc as Pisces ( it made more sense ).
Somehow even back then I knew.

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