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LILYGIRL
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posted October 01, 2005 01:07 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Does anyone have their Pluto opposite their significant other's Venus. If so, how do you think it affects your relationship? Is poor Venus at the mercy of the Pluto, vice versa or are both on their knees. LOL.

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Gemini Nymph
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posted October 01, 2005 01:48 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Pluto would dominate Venus, tending to take away Venus' power over itself. Without aspects to balance this, Pluto-Venus aspects can be as dangerous for the non-pluto person as Pluto-moon aspects.

Inmy last relationship it was a trtade-off - my Pluto conjunct his Venus, adn my Venus squared Pluto. So it was OK, actually. In the beginnign we were intensely drawn to each other, and in the end we were both able to walk away freely and wiithout an ugly fight.

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posted October 01, 2005 02:26 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Stargazer     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
GM- I have my venus conj. his pluto 1'- this is different, yes? I know i am enthralled obsessed and consumed. However, my sun conj his venus 1' as well my mars conj his sun 1' and my sun sextile his venus. My sun and venus are in his 1st house. How does this influence the venus pluto thing?

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Mystic Gemini
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posted October 01, 2005 02:55 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
My pluto conjuncts his venus.

Usually yes it means obsession and jealousy on behalf of the venus person. Maybe both also.


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posted October 01, 2005 07:00 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Stargazer     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Thank You GM!!!

It is weird that i have had this aspect with all 4 major relationships. I was thinking that the planets didn't tightly conjunct all that often?
Anywho, thanks again!

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posted October 01, 2005 07:22 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for pixelpixie     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
My Pluto is opposite someone's Venus.
We form a fire grand trine in synastry. Between both our Venus's and Saturn ( also neptune)
Neat stuff.

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Lauren
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posted October 01, 2005 10:35 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote

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Mystic Gemini
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posted October 02, 2005 12:23 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
In Relationship Signs, Linda says that if one person´s venus is conjunct with another´s pluto, that indicates Twin Souls or Soul Mates, people who were once the same individual, one half being the male half and the other the female. They have an innate longing for the other and, from lifetime to lifetime, the unite to feel the joy of completion.
I know a man whose Venus is in conjunction with my Pluto and certainly there´s a Silver Cord between us. I haven´t felt for anybody else what I feel for him. I believe our souls are twin.

However, since Pluto moves so slowly, that means that it would spend several months in the proximities of the position of his Venus...

Does it mean that there are potential hundreds of women who are his twin soul???


http://www.linda-goodman.com/ubb/Forum10/HTML/001275.html


I guess no one really knows huh :\


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Gemini sun, Cancer rising, mercury in Gemini, moon in Taurus *29, venus in Taurus, mars in Libra

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(¸.·´ (¸.·´ * Lost in the peace of serenity
Blind my eyes I cannot see
Lost my soul but found my heart
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LILYGIRL
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posted October 02, 2005 12:53 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
"They're both on their knees by turns. Never at the same time. "


Thanks Lauren. what a great, great description of Pluto Opposite Venus, and your line is hilarious. I am actually the Pluto and he is the Venus.

An astrologer recently told me that he was both mesmerized and frightened by my power. I guess it's that Pluto.

What you say however about generations is true. He and I are separated by mere weeks. I have not looked closely enough at the charts to glean the trigger. But this bond has plenty of opportunities for both parties to grab an upper hand only to be swept under and over by the other. His Sun sits on my South Nodes and my Venus trines his NN and sextiles his SN. My Chiron conjuncts his Chiron, his Eros and his Venus.... We also have squares flying through space (square venuses) though our Mars are buddies -sextiles. In essence, there is enough mischief and mayhem to keep the villagers clued to their sets. LOL.

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Mystic Gemini
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posted October 02, 2005 01:05 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
3. Pluto
The Devil Card in the Tarot deck is symbolic of some of the types of feelings we have when in a relationship with someone when we have a Venus/Pluto Conjunction. We may feel so completely bonded to this person in an almost obsessive way. Because of this obsession we will often feel tied down or stifled by the intensity of this energy almost as if it is against our will! We often merge with this person on a very deep level losing our independence and allowing ourselves to be controlled and enslaved to this addictive feeling of sexual love. When we become addictive in our love patterns we often get caught up in appearances and the physical part of the relationship. We begin to limit ourselves, choosing to stay in the dark about other areas of the relationship. When we neglect seeing other areas of the relationship we can start to think negatively about seeing the relationship without this passionate energy and the intensity of the connection. We can become stuck in fear and doubt at this point.

I have had my own experiences in relationships with Venus Pluto contacts and if you read Linda Goodmans Relationships Signs books she emphasizes Venus/Pluto as "soulmate" or "twin soul" aspect...there is a very intense and deep love between the parties. It isn't only the Venus person who is doing the loving..the Pluto person is loving the Venus person but with a more "transformative" and intense/possessive love..usually the Venus person is overwhelmed, allured, attracted, consumed, and petrified all at the same time!! It is a vey intense and passionate encounter. When Venus Pluto conjunct in synastry usually other people "see" how in love the two are without any words between the couple..they could walk down the street and others will simply be envious and take notice!! It's an amazing thing!

Pluto connections are always intensely transformative. When we are in a relationship with another where there is a Venus/Pluto conjunction...our lives, for better or for worse...will never be the same.

Here are some keywords to assist you in better understanding the energy of the planet Venus:

Love, feeling, harmony, relationships, ability to give and take, longing and desire for union, sensory pleasures such as in five senses, beauty, sensuality, aesthetic peception, art, talents, good taste, the throat and neck, being vain, temptation, focusing on external factors, what we value, money and how we earn it. Venus is the feminine energy principle in the birth chart.

Here are some keywords to assist you in better understanding the energy of the planet Pluto:

Deep transformation, the depths, darkness, the source, underground, beneath, psyhological forces, our instincts, power, control, helplessness, dependency, intensity of strength, drive for far reaching and deep changes in self and in others, healing forces, hypnotic, destructive, sadistic, sexual organs, sex, the occult,compulsions, obsession and emotional entanglement. Pluto's deep transformative energy principle is responsible for making long lasting and much needed changes in our lives.


http://www.karmicastrology.tv/synastry.htm


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Gemini sun, Cancer rising, mercury in Gemini, moon in Taurus *29, venus in Taurus, mars in Libra

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¸.·´¸.·*´¨) ¸.·*¨)
(¸.·´ (¸.·´ * Lost in the peace of serenity
Blind my eyes I cannot see
Lost my soul but found my heart
Again a time, when I shall start

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Mystic Gemini
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posted October 02, 2005 01:07 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I am the pluto also Lily girl.


Venus Trine Saturn

Sun Trine Venus


Jupiter Conjunction Venus

I wonder if these synastry aspects can smooth out Pluto conjunct venus, Ascendant square Venus, Venus opposition Moon that me and this guy have.



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Gemini sun, Cancer rising, mercury in Gemini, moon in Taurus *29, venus in Taurus, mars in Libra

*´¨)
¸.·´¸.·*´¨) ¸.·*¨)
(¸.·´ (¸.·´ * Lost in the peace of serenity
Blind my eyes I cannot see
Lost my soul but found my heart
Again a time, when I shall start

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nove731
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posted October 02, 2005 01:36 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for nove731     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
My Venus trines everyones Pluto...If they were born from 1985-1990, anyway...

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Mystic Gemini
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posted October 02, 2005 02:27 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Wierd. I've been getting the Devil tarot card since I met him.

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The Devil Card in the Tarot deck is symbolic of some of the types of feelings we have when in a relationship with someone when we have a Venus/Pluto Conjunction.

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Gemini sun, Cancer rising, mercury in Gemini, moon in Taurus *29, venus in Taurus, mars in Libra

*´¨)
¸.·´¸.·*´¨) ¸.·*¨)
(¸.·´ (¸.·´ * Lost in the peace of serenity
Blind my eyes I cannot see
Lost my soul but found my heart
Again a time, when I shall start

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Mystic Gemini
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posted October 03, 2005 08:53 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
What sign is pluto/venus in for you guys?


My pluto in Libra conjuncts his Venus in libra.

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Gemini sun, Cancer rising, mercury in Gemini, moon in Taurus *29, venus in Taurus, mars in Libra

*´¨)
¸.·´¸.·*´¨) ¸.·*¨)
(¸.·´ (¸.·´ * Lost in the peace of serenity
Blind my eyes I cannot see
Lost my soul but found my heart
Again a time, when I shall start

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Stargazer
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posted October 03, 2005 09:56 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Stargazer     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Mystic Gemini-
Hi I've been posting on soul unions...same topic

I get the devil card too.

I do not know what sign. Help me figure it out. It could be i do and don't know it....

This is always a possibility with me

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Mystic Gemini
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posted October 03, 2005 10:21 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
go to astro.com then click on partner.


enter birth details and scroll to the bottom.


It will show what planets both of you have in what houses.

check what sign your pluto is in then check what sign his venus or yours blah blah is.

The very last one is the composite. its both of you combined. shows how they'd be together.

If you have problems let me know.


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Gemini sun, Cancer rising, mercury in Gemini, moon in Taurus *29, venus in Taurus, mars in Libra

*´¨)
¸.·´¸.·*´¨) ¸.·*¨)
(¸.·´ (¸.·´ * Lost in the peace of serenity
Blind my eyes I cannot see
Lost my soul but found my heart
Again a time, when I shall start

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DragonflyAries
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posted October 03, 2005 11:49 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I have my Pluto conjunct someone's Venus... from my point of view it's the Venus person who tends to be the obsessive one, almost clingy. But to be totally honest, I will admit to a rather Plutonian habit of manipulation at times. lol

I think the strength of the aspect is important here as well... I would use a TIGHT orb for this. In my situation anyone who has Venus at or close to 14 Libra is going to share this aspect with me... Are they ALL my Twin Souls? Of course not... there are other markers of this as well, and I believe Relationship Signs makes the point that these aspects are not "stand alone".

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posted October 04, 2005 10:34 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Stargazer     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Mystic-

Yes, I do have this... I get confused... between synastry reports and composite.

okay... seperate- my venus- virgo 7th house
his pluto-virgo 1st house
composite- venus -libra 5th
pluto- virgo 5th

grupovenus said that my venus is in 1st house his venus is in my 9th
my pluto is in his 2nd house his pluto is my 7th. my venus conjunct his pluto at 1'1 orb.
I am confused..

DragonflyAries- Hi! I agree that it is the whole picture...But i also feel that this one Aspect is significant to me....because of what happened in the relationship.... then ...i also have this aspect tight with my current relationship... i see patterns here.. I seem to be destined to learn the hard way... just trying to avoid the same pickle twice..... Aries moon

PS.....These men are older than i between 5 and 6 years.

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Mystic Gemini
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posted October 04, 2005 03:42 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
This guy's way older than me also.


Mmm older men.

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Gemini sun, Cancer rising, mercury in Gemini, moon in Taurus *29, venus in Taurus, mars in Libra

*´¨)
¸.·´¸.·*´¨) ¸.·*¨)
(¸.·´ (¸.·´ * Lost in the peace of serenity
Blind my eyes I cannot see
Lost my soul but found my heart
Again a time, when I shall start

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posted October 04, 2005 04:24 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Stargazer     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Mystic-- yes older men are great when your young.... now my cancer has serious security issues since he's headed for 45 and i'm still on the backside of 30...

He never had these issues when we were both younger. He is in the midst of a mid-life meltdown... I am patiently waiting for it to pass. His claws have been extra tight.
He is Scorpio ASC.- makes it even worse... and with all the flirty Scorpios i seem to attract... he has been extra clingy...

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Mystic Gemini
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posted October 05, 2005 08:44 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Mine's is a scorpio with scorpio moon, leo rising, venus in libra, and mars in scorpio.


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Gemini sun, Cancer rising, mercury in Gemini, moon in Taurus *29, venus in Taurus, mars in Libra

*´¨)
¸.·´¸.·*´¨) ¸.·*¨)
(¸.·´ (¸.·´ * Lost in the peace of serenity
Blind my eyes I cannot see
Lost my soul but found my heart
Again a time, when I shall start

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Lauren
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posted October 05, 2005 10:47 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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posted October 05, 2005 10:54 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for nove731     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Venus - Pisces
Pluto - Scorpio

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posted October 06, 2005 08:45 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Stargazer     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Mystic

Man #1 sun and merc./cancer- moon/Aries-venus/virgo- mars/Gemini- asc Scorp-
I also have venus conj uranus :Astro.com says its doomed to failure.... this is nice
18 years into it

Man #2 the one who won't go away and whom i can not have
sun merc and mars/Scorpio- venus/ libra-
moon/Sag- asc leo

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Mystic Gemini
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posted October 06, 2005 09:44 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Why can't you have him?


Why won't he go away?


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Gemini sun, Cancer rising, mercury in Gemini, moon in Taurus *29, venus in Taurus, mars in Libra

*´¨)
¸.·´¸.·*´¨) ¸.·*¨)
(¸.·´ (¸.·´ * Lost in the peace of serenity
Blind my eyes I cannot see
Lost my soul but found my heart
Again a time, when I shall start

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