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LILYGIRL
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posted October 25, 2005 02:26 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I have changed alot in the past decade. I think I was more frightened and more reluctant when I was younger. Sometimes I think I am going to be dead this time next year so this is my heart, these are my words. For better or worse, this is how I feel. That's where I am now.

Taurus Venus in a Grand Trine at 22 with North Node 22 Virgo and Part Of Fortune 22 Cap.

I think my two Geminis in Mercury and Sun however dictate much of my behavior. For example, my mind has to click or be turned on by another human being for me to feel any sense of connection. Even with this Taurus Venus, I am rarely drawn strictly by a physical attraction.

(1) If you like someone do you -compliment them lots and express how much you like them, or -rarely compliment them, for fear of them guessing your feelings?

I tend to compliment when I see someone being unnecessarily self-effacing. When I like someone, love someone or feel turned on by someone in that moment, in my mind's eye they can do little wrong. I tend to compliment a great deal then. It's a little effusive but I hope it is honest.

People who never compliment others always give me pause. I have seen people come to another's lovely home for a wonderful meal and never once extend a compliment. It sort of gives me the willies. I am currently married to a decent hardworking man who compliments once a year. I have had to really work with him on that in regards to the children. My philosophy is most persons have something that renders them interesting or endearing and often they need to hear it from another.

2) Do you promise to do silly/special things someone (of opposite sex, oh, or the same depending on what's your type...) asks you
-only when you are attracted to them
-only when you love them
-only as long as you know them!

If I like someone and deeply trust him/her I will be silly and free with my silliness. I won't, however, do anything bizarre, unusual or uncomfortable unless I trust the person. This all depends about what your talking about. I have known two men who I suspect I would cross lines for. Sometimes a person can make you want to do things you have never done before.

3) Do you find you can be in love with more than one person at a time?

No.


4) Do you think about someone constantly when you like them or only when you are with them?

Yes. It is very distracting and having an Aries Moon and Mars douses and drowns the distraction with impatience. Add in many pluto contacts and well you get the image, intense.

5) If you can tell someone likes you a great deal does it make you think
- that you like them more too
- that you like them less
- that you always liked them but it's only now you realise it!
- you don't like them any more or less but keep talking to them for the flattery... hehe

Unless I viscerally dislike a man, his "urge" or fervency for me is embraced.
If I really like someone and I discover he likes me, well it's all good. I sort of like to be the person who "likes" first. I especially like when a man comes around to liking me, edges to it, indicates it with enough directness and subtlety to make it known then makes a sudden move. That's extraordinarily sexy--like when you're running off at the mouth and he suddenly kisses you.

I rarely keep up a relationship with someone for the flattery. That would make me squeamish and I am somewhat self-contained so my need for flattery is slight. I do like when someone stares and stares and thinks and contemplates and then make a move with a compliment. I like the forethought of it. It makes me think that they have given some consideration to the compliment.

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The Mutable Night Force
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posted October 25, 2005 03:25 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for The Mutable Night Force     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Wow... so many posts!!! Please excuse me if all I say to you is thank you, but I have read everyone's posts thouroughly and it's all been really useful!!!

THANK YOU Mystic Gemini, Hexxie (congrats on your 200th!), Magus, AG, Isolaede (again ), whiterabbit, Aphrodite, WN, Cassy, Peri, Lauren, Planet_Soul, Stargazer, beebuddy, LILYGIRL!

AG- Your answer helped me with what I was looking for! I needed a Cappy opinion oh and thanks for saying you like my thread!

Isolaede- LOL no I guessed just because of your Venus! And your answer has also helped my... um, research

whiterabbit- Yup course I remember! same here for your answer no 5, but that's never happened to me...!

WN- LOL @ your question 2 answer! I spose I asked that question not really thinking about both sides....

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posted October 25, 2005 03:27 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for The Mutable Night Force     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Lauren- True! Everyone does like being liked! I never thought of that good point- I like you

Stargazer- As usual I could identify with your answers a lot, being a VirgoAries Cappy myself

beebuddy- LOL, you're funny "2. I like to (playfully) ask for stuff, usually little favors. It's a way of "testing" actually. If they do my bidding they must love me! YAYYY!" Me too!!!!!!! I do that! lol

LILYGIRL- Thank you for such in-depth answers! "That's extraordinarily sexy--like when you're running off at the mouth and he suddenly kisses you." OMG, yes, that sounds hot, I've only ever seen it in films though lol! Has it ever happened to you?


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posted October 25, 2005 03:34 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for The Mutable Night Force     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Something else for eveyone to chew on that, shamefully, benefits me slightly more. But anyone else feel free to continue answering the original questions, I'm grateful for every post


What have you guys and girls found that might relate to this-

If a girl admits to a guy that she really does like him and his response is along the lines of "Thanks", "Cheers" then which of the following is most likely..?
-He's not sure how to respond
-He's flattered but has no interest
-He has interest but isn't sure how to say it
-He hasn't figured out what she means by 'like' lol

Thank you...

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amisha121877
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posted October 25, 2005 04:40 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
natally speaking:
venus in sagittarius - 4th house (direct)

Venus Conjunction Neptune 2°37
Venus Sextile Pluto 2°28
Venus Trine Ascendant 5°18
Moon Trine Venus 2°37

1 - i tend to compliment/support what they do or not do - not blindly, of course it can also go the other way aka no holds bar. i could also find interest in what they do and research it on my own or take note of what they say/do, fueling admiration i already had for them, to begin with. like i said, it can go the other way around so i especially like it if there was something i didn't like that they did/do and/or there was something they didn't like that i did/do - neither one of us is afraid to say so. in the situation that I'm in now, i think we both issue fair warning so if one of us gets the last jab that ends that round - shake hands, go to our corners and then come back when the bell rings

2 - games, games and games but very intense one's. if the game still rolling 7 years later - how bizarre but definitely one that survives - let it go and if it's meant to be, it'll come back to you. in love, i feel/can react like i did when i was a little girl especially in this relationship i'm in now, which sometimes surprises me - i'm addressing all those things that use to make me angry/reactive like when boys/men would say with their chest puffed out girls can't do what guys do (lol - now that i think about it - that's funny because guys can't do what girls do like have a baby come out of their body 10x's the physical size they put in) and those notorious commitment issues that i didn't want to hear/address/respond to in the past. Now it's a matter of coming to terms with understanding the commitment issues in the first place and trying it out - just that whole sense of give and take and leap of faith..........trust.

3 - i love anybody i feel a "close"/"homey" connection to only the one i "love" in that sensitive way gets a lil bit more attention/ignores in a flowing fashion - we can be lovers one second, a critic/fan of me/him the next second, and i could/he could end up not being able to stand me/him the next second. this is round the clock, every single day. its been this way for a while and underneath it all - not too many people could stand that for a long period of time. there are parts that are predictable and a lot that are not. at least one of both, every day - i would say.

4 - i try very hard not to think about someone i love - very hard only because if i pick on up on thinking about them, i pick up on everything else too (what's in their environment/or was) and a lot of that i really don't want to pick up on but then a lot of times the thought of them excites/surprises me

The Mutable Night Force - imo
"thanks"
he doesn't know what she truly meant by saying she liked him but saying thanks because she said she liked him and it's like thanking someone for a compliment like, i like what you did today or i like your shirt

"cheers"
he liked her too. it's more on the lines of him hanging with her and thinking all along that she's cool to hang out with and she comes out and says to him, "you're cool" and he says - cheers like saying ditto or something. it's better than saying - ok.

btw, how does this person like the other person or how did they mean for him to take the "i like you"? i'm wondering if i went a bit overboard.

don't worry - i can be a bit "slow" too on that whole thing. i didn't get it right off the bat either. still don't, really but i'm getting better.

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posted October 25, 2005 04:54 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for The Mutable Night Force     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
LOL, no amisha, that's a fantastic response, you're not slow! Thank you!

"like, i like what you did today or i like your shirt" I'm sure I've said that too!

No, the people are me and someone else and he said cheers ... I was joking and said something to him and he says "That's ok. I know you like me." Me- "How'd you know? That's presumptious of you." Him- "Oh really?" Me- "When I flatter you I could be lying through my teeth. Of course I'm not. I like you." Him- "Cheers!"
Meh, I don't know I could drabble about conversations like this for hours. Infact, I'd like to but won't, I'm going off-topic.


Do you know what I need? Do you know what I need? I need la la la la la love!
Kate Bush. Whoo.

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WaterNymph
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posted October 25, 2005 06:30 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Peri babe I didn't know you're an Aries Venus & Mars gal like me - we so rock

“WN- LOL @ your question 2 answer! I spose I asked that question not really thinking about both sides.…”
lol well nah, maybe it was just the way it was worded

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AcousticGod
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posted October 26, 2005 02:31 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for AcousticGod     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
You're most welcome, MNF!

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Lauren
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posted October 26, 2005 04:37 AM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
quote:
No, the people are me and someone else and he said cheers ... I was joking and said something to him and he says "That's ok. I know you like me." Me- "How'd you know? That's presumptious of you." Him- "Oh really?" Me- "When I flatter you I could be lying through my teeth. Of course I'm not. I like you." Him- "Cheers!"

Hmm..well he said "I know you like me" first..which is kind of sag moon-ish of him lol..translation: I love the fact you like me and I wanna hear it over and over again.

Next time this kinda thing happens, instead of saying you do like him.. try saying something like "really? I think *you* like *me* (insert intense stare and cute smile-lol)" with the same conviction he says it, and see what he does..I bet you anything, regardless of what he says, he'll blush. I think he does like you, just my hunch.

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cappyme
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posted October 26, 2005 05:56 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for cappyme     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
OOk I'm replying a bit late here, had some tests to learn for yesterday and stuff.

Anyways my venus sign is in capricorn in 1st house

1) If you like someone do you - it actually keeps on fluctuating, but most of the time I don't compliment them, just compliment them few times and sincerely.

2) Do you promise to do silly/special things someone (of opposite sex, oh, or the same depending on what's your type...) asks you
-only as long as you know them!

3) Do you find you can be in love with more than one person at a time?
if its love or if we're dating, then I don't think so, but I can have two crushes at the same time.

4) Do you think about someone constantly when you like them or only when you are with them?
Usually I think of them constantly but am easily able to detach away from them, so its more like only when I'm with them.

Cool survey

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SweetCappie
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posted October 26, 2005 11:02 AM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Interesting thread!!! The responses have been very insightful!!

Venus in Sag 7th house stellium opposed Jupiter, trine Saturn.

1) I only give sincere compliments and do so rarely. I'll only compliment them on their skills (like if they were playing basketball and made a great dunk), not their looks for fear of inflating their ego. I am wary of people that flatter me too much because that seems insincere.

2) When I was younger in my relationships, I'd give so much and rarely received anything in return but heartbreak & manipulation. So I don't do things for anyone anymore unless I'm in love with them and they reciprocate. If they do things for me first, then I'll feel the duty to return the favor.

3) Do you find you can be in love with more than one person at a time? a big NO. I take love seriously. I love deeply with all my heart and that leaves 0 space for loving anyone else romantically. I wouldn't want to be with someone that is capable of being in love with more than 1 person.

4)When I like them, I'll think of them 24 hours unless I'm very busy or distracted. I actually hate that I think of them constantly, it always results in the feelings getting stronger which is a scary thing for me unless its mutual.

5) If someone likes me a lot then if I am attracted to them, I will consider them as a possible suitor. If I like them too, then it will make me like them more but if I didn't like them then I'd feel uncomfortable because I wouldn't want them to confuse my friendliness for interest.

6) If a girl admits to a guy that she really does like him and his response is along the lines of "Thanks", "Cheers" then which of the following is most likely..? I believe its up the guy to make the first move and express like first so if he doesn't respond that he feels the same, then I'll take that as disinterest. I have nothing but bad experiences pursuing men (they take advantage of me) so I'll NEVER tell them my feelings first unless I don't like them. I don't know what cheers means so that would leave me confused. I would say "Cheers? what do you mean by that?!"

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cancerrg
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posted October 26, 2005 11:47 AM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
my venus is in leo.

1.yeah , i compliment a lot . but i dont think that has anything to do with leo , i think its more a cancer trait . if they find u , they'll tell u so . ofcourse some women do take it otherwise ( bad for us )

2. again, i am silly person at heart . i like being that way . to tell u a very common thing about me , my body starts moving instantly whetther there is some music or not ( but its beoing played in my mind ) even in the bus or the metro and i am very used to people gawking at me thinking , i am mad.
so, i am sure to do something like that for people that i love . all of them know this trait of mine.

3. no, i never promise to do silly things . i act too practical at that time .

4. yeah , i have been in that situation , but i have a simple rule , i'll try to value my words to whomever i have given it .

5. no . i am too much involved in my own dreams
btw, to give u a news , i did ask for the date a fortnight ago . and see the irony , i haven't seen her from that day . busy lives , i guess .

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cancerrg
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posted October 26, 2005 11:48 AM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
my venus is in leo.

1.yeah , i compliment a lot . but i dont think that has anything to do with leo , i think its more a cancer trait . if they find u good, they'll tell u so . ofcourse some women do take it otherwise ( bad for us )

2. again, i am silly person at heart . i like being that way . to tell u a very common thing about me , my body starts moving instantly whetther there is some music or not ( but its beoing played in my mind ) even in the bus or the metro and i am very used to people gawking at me thinking , i am mad.
so, i am sure to do something like that for people that i love . all of them know this trait of mine.

3. no, i never promise to do silly things . i act too practical at that time .

4. yeah , i have been in that situation , but i have a simple rule , i'll try to value my words to whomever i have given it .

5. no . i am too much involved in my own dreams
btw, to give u a news , i did ask for the date a fortnight ago . and see the irony , i haven't seen her from that day . busy lives , i guess .

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posted October 26, 2005 12:11 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for whiterabbit     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
quote:
"That's ok. I know you like me."
That is NOT something you would say to someone that you were not attracted to! (Although I agree with Lauren, VERY Sag moon of him). If you're not attracted to someone, it's common to try and "let them down easy", be nice and avoid the topic so you can avoid an uncomfortable situation where you have to tell them you are not interested! This Cappy fellow was most certainly flirting with you- and I think Lauren gave you a great idea for making him admit it! (the coward....grrrrr..) You're so tbe brave one in this little interaction! Must be the Aries in you.

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MoonDuchess88
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1.I compliment when I FEEL they deserve one (wouldn't want to give myself away)

2.When I love them (I know, Im cold)

3.not really, too mind boggling

4.when I like them (a bit obssesive, eh?)

5.depends on my feelings for them in the first place

*edit* oh yeah, venus in gem

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posted October 27, 2005 12:04 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for BlueTopaz124     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Ok...I'm late here but wanted to join in.

My Venus is in Libra in the 11th.

1. I'm funny about compliments and can be a little inconsistent with that, all or nothing type of approach - usually a lot of compliments when I first meet someone and as my comfort level with them increases, my compliments get spaced further apart. Also as comfort level increases so do my actions/loyalty. If I'm dating a guy, (of course highly attracted to him or would NOT be with him) you can bet I notice everything and tell him, but when he least expects it, I will land him a compliment and it catches him off-guard, leaving him to think about it...usually the next time we're together, he will either be wearing what I complimented him about last time or show off his fine torso for me (trying to appear casual/nonchalant about it but you can surely bet I am noticing it all!!! hehehe)

2. I'm a Sag Sun/Mars/Jupiter/Ascendant - what can I say? I don't usually promise much because I know that if I do it means committment and I like to surprise people more so I am more likely to notice what someone likes and surprise them with it sometime later. I tend to show my affection with surprise gifties.

3. No. Impossible for me. That one special person gets all of me.

4. I think a lot about someone I'm in love with...good and bad about that, My Mercury in Scorpio has me analyzing/thinking almost to the point of obsession if I am trying to figure something out about someone/something.

5. Depends on how I feel about them in general. If I respect someone and know they like me, they get genuine respect and loyalty from me. I also watch how they treat other people and that's a biggie with me. If everyone is treated fairly and they are generally honest about their intentions, they'll win big points with me. If I don't respect someone, even if they try to win me, I go off in the complete opposite direction...I'm funny about that.

kisses
Laura

****hahaha I noticed I posted this at 12:04 am...my birthdate, 12/04!

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Venus in Taurus here.

1. I pour on the compliments pretty thick... When I'm in love I can't help but letting them know just how much.

2. Only when I love them... of course it depends on what it is. If it's something minor, I'll say what the heck and do it. But if it's a major request there's gotta be some love there...

3. I find I can /love/ many people at once, but not be //in love// with more than one at a time.

4. I think about them all the time.

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Hmmm...Nice thread!

Let's see...
My venus is aquarius in 2nd.

1)Generally speaking,I like to compliment people. The difference is,though,that I do it when I mean it. In other words, I won't say sth just for the sake of saying it. Now,when I really like sme I'll show that I like them but mostly as a friend. I'll wait for him to make his move and see if he can win me or not! So, I guess I may appear a bit aloof! gosh, very aquarian of me!
2)I don't promise things I can't deliver. Also, to do that he/she must be in my heart and win my trust. Otherwise, difficult...Ofcourse,when I love sme I'm very open to giving but as long as this is mutual and respectful on both parts. The truth is I prefer surprises!
3)Hmmmm....I could be attracted to more than one person at a time,sexually speaking. But to be in Love...that's a different story. If I'm in love I can only be with one person. I don't like it when men or women are dishonest to their partner. I find it unfair and hipocritical.I'm a bit fixed here aren't I?
4)When I'm in love I only think of him and our passionate relationship. Athough I try not to neglect my every-day responsibilities, my heart is with him...
5) If I know sme likes me a lot, I like him too! Why not? Again, he would have to be a person I truly like and respect. Generally speaking, a lover has got to be my friend too. Very aquarian, hah?

Deep inside all I want is love

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posted October 28, 2005 11:04 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for The Mutable Night Force     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Big thank yous to:-
cappyme, SweetCappie, cancerrg, MoonDuchess, BlueTopaz, DragonflyAries and IknowUcappy for participating!!!!!!!!
Thank you.


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posted October 28, 2005 11:04 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for The Mutable Night Force     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Lauren, SweetCappie and whiterabbit I give a big special thank you to you guys for advising me on my personal problem! Cheers, lol.

Lauren- That's a great idea actually, I might try it out... and thanks for the confidence booster

SweetCappie- I know! That's what I thought... which is why I had to check with you guys!

whiterabbit- I never knew you lived in Cabbagetown.... lol! Again, thankyou so much for instilling a little more confidence in me. And thanks for thinking he's flirting with me I hope so!

He has now pretty much said he likes me... he says he thinks I'm cute.... really embarrassed typing this now... lol yeah so... oh I dunno... and he's called me pretty before and he reckons I'm clever..! lol... He says he thinks I'm a lady and he tells me he's a gentleman so I said next time we meet I'll curtsey and he'll kiss my hand

Oh I've gone all melty now... bugger.

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posted October 28, 2005 12:05 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Betelgeuse     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Nice Thread!

Venus in Taurus - conj Mars & Chiron, 8th house.

1/ I compliment quite a lot, though normally on the brilliance of her ideas/mind, kindness and consideration she shows or to show her that the weaknesses she sees in herself are seen as strengths by me. I compliment about her physical looks less frequently, though I do let her know shes beautiful.

2/ If she asks me to do something for her, then I trust her enough to know it is not part of a game, so I do it. The rulers of my heart are known by the names of Mr Sponatneous and Miss Live-By-The-Moment though

3/ No. My intimate love is purely that - intimate.

4/ I think about them if I need to smile or I am contemplating what i can do for them. Or if I am pondering on something they have said, which might give me reason to grow.

5/ Isolaede was pretty spot on
"However, if I don’t feel that kind of connection with someone and I know they like me it makes me pull back. I don’t want to encourage their affections, or use them, and then ultimately have to hurt them. I’ve had this happen with close friends before, and them liking me doesn’t make me think any less of them. I just pull back to avoid hurting them."

And MNF, I had a similar situation to the one you are describing. A girl liked me, she would compliment things like the clothes I wore, my appearance, football etc, and blow bubbles in my face (strange I know!!) I would normally say 'thanks' back with a smile as my way of saying 'thanks, but I see you as a friend'. But, if you really want to know his feelings, I would suggest playing it cool for a few days, maybe when you next go out, dont ignore him totally, smile your smile, talk your talk, but dont make him the focus of your attention, and see if he starts focusing on you more. Sometimes if you withdraw your energies slightly, it gives someone else the space to come to you.

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sooooo many replies
make me feel like come out n' play 2
**********venUs in aquA****************

1: i love to compliement on ppl bascially, i mean whts wrong by saying things to make others feel good? as long as i mean every words i said. As for compliementing someone im interested in.......yes, especially i want to get away with something i did wrong, keke

2: I dont do silly things dat often to win their heart, but only when they are in distress, then i will go extra miles to please them

3: the question should be like "can u love less than two ppl, LOL, i always like at least two guys at the same time.

4: I do think bout them when i have feelings for them, day in day out, but i dont have to be with them physically dat much, i like to play it in my head, i could get detach when im with them, then get intense when i dont see them

5: having someone else told me they like me doesnt change the fact how i feel for them
cuz i knew it the first 3 seconds if i could get involve w/them romanticlly

love to hear from other venus in AqUa


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posted October 29, 2005 09:50 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for The Mutable Night Force     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Thanky you to Betelgeuse and bullhead!!!

Betelgeuse- Nice username! What's it mean? And good advice btw... I'll try it next time I see him. Thankyou

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posted October 30, 2005 01:53 AM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
MutableNightForce,

I'm happy to hear he likes you back!
<doing the happy dance>

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posted October 30, 2005 03:31 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for The Mutable Night Force     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Thanks!

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