posted November 26, 2005 02:44 AM              

These days I let myself get furious, in my mind and work it off. Helps me feel stronger and more together-

Well I also agree on the Venus/Pluto thing, it's pretty hard to break off. I can't even get started there.

I have known a Scorpio stalker, who asked me to help stalk a Sag male, by putting a tape recorder under his bed and watching him from some bushes. She was a diehard stalker and eventually he had a mini nervous breakdown-
eventually though, 8 years later, he fell for her.

Another female who stalked was a Cancer,
other than that I knew an Aquarius who stalked my LIbra b/f once.

posted November 26, 2005 10:30 AM              

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When I think about him (this will sound bad and violent) but I feel like taking a kickboxing class and just completely beating the living day lights out of him. I'm not violent..I'd never say that about anyone..but with him I really would just love to hit him for all the hurt he's caused. I don't think I could help myself if he was standing infront of me.

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Just that visualization should be enough to get some of the angry feelings out, which works temporarily. The good thing about it is that as time passes by, the memory of it will fade away and so will most of the anger. Until then, it's punch bag time

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I think talking about it with a therapist or counsuler would be good for you.

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posted November 26, 2005 02:14 PM              

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Talking about it with trusted friends works just as well. Therapists are strangers as far as personal issues are concerned and can ultimately do more harm than good because of that.

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Nonsense. Thereapists are trained to deal with people who need help coping with problems. They're not just any "stranger." They know a lot more about these issues, and many more sides of those issues than your friends. Confiding in someone often isn't enough. Friends furthermore lack the objectivity and prespective many people need to help guide them through trying and difficult issues. People are also often drawn to friends at the same development level, so normally your friends aren't any better or any more knowledgable about how to cope wih issues like this than you.

Therapists are not only trained and objective, they also fall outside a person's normal network of people and bond by professional ethic to patient confidentiality, so that confidentiality is an added plus that both help people 1) feel safe about confronting issues and 2) see things in a different light than they would surrounded by the same people they have been up to now.

More often than not, your friends don't know what to say or how to help (or don't want to be bothered) with your more complex or tough issues, and either are overly passive and feel overwhelmed by their friends' more serious issues. When you think about, dumping these heavy issues on your friends alone is unfair to them - all your doing is saying "I won't see a therapist because that's BS" then turning your friends into your therapist! That's not what your friend are there for. They're there to love and support you and enjoy life with you - not be your surrogate therapist because your'e too proud or afriad to see a real therapist.

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Personally, I've just been relying on my own strength to deal with PTSD so far, and it's been working out fairly well. Wouldn't consider a therapist for anything in the world though!

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To be blunt, stoism and bravado will only get you so far.

I have chronic depression, PTSD and Asperger's Syndrome. I'm also exceptionally intelligent, incredibly proud, extremely independent and fiercely strong willed. SInce I was a young teenager, I tried for many years to cope with these things on my own - made a very valiant effort too. I not only thought I could do it, I wa convinced I should be able to do. But eventually I had to admit I'm not superhuman, and just like every else, sometimes I need to help with my issues too. There's no shame in this. And rationalizing options like therapy as being bad or useless only hinders one's healing process and closes the mind to opportunities to heal, grow and gain insight.

I spent too many years struggling on my own, thinking I was doing far better than I actually was. I wasted a lot of time and energy due to my prided and fears. I see no reason that others can't learn from my example and get started on their healing process sooner than me. I recommended these things because I *know* they help and they work.

posted November 26, 2005 03:50 PM              

But, seriously...
I have an air grand trine - well, two really - and Pluto (1st house) cjn Asc too.
I haven't been stalked...unless you count a bit of cyberstalking, which I have easily dealt with.
But I'm quite forbidding. When I say "nope - it's over" or "no - I'm not interested in you" there's no going back...or forward.
Not ever.
So none of my ex's have ever attempted anything.

posted November 26, 2005 04:48 PM              

thanks for the reply. I'm not proud with working through it this way, just somewhat satisfied that it's going somewhere. Still, I will take your advice and elaborate on it.

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On the stalkers topic,

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posted November 26, 2005 06:36 PM            

i used to want to find out EVERYTHING about a person once theyve got my attention so i'd def believe it's a pluto thing. plutos the only planet i think that would make them obsess over it THAT much and to teh extreme of stalking... i've got some strong plutonian forces (conj Sun, Venus, ASC, square Mars, Moon, 2 T-Squares, 1st house) in my chart, and it seems like my life revolves around stalkers and people who seem to come around after 5-10 years and have these huge like SEVERELY blown of out proportion grudges against me...