posted November 24, 2005 10:10 PM              

1) Pluto rising

2) Air grand trine

Now why would these two things attract stalkers? Mainly because either alone gives a person an aura of aloofness, mystery and uniquess. And stalkers go after people that they think is like no one else in the world, that intrigues them and seems out of reach or "above" them. As a norm stalkers have very low self-esteem, suffer from some form of emotional or mood disorder, and have a lot of repressed anger about feeling invalid or insignificant. They often seek out a person to stalk who appears to fulfill some ideal in their minds, and so such a person usually "stands out" in some way frrom other people, or at least in the eyes of the stalker. In the stalker's mind, if they can have the person they stalk, this person will somehow fix their problems and alleviate their misery.

It's particularly interesting to me that your air grand trine is very much like mine: strongly Uranian. You have 1st house Uranus (I do too), trine a placements in Aqua (I have mars, NN, and vertex), trine a placement in the Aqua decan (the last 10 deegrgees) of Gemini (I have my Sun at 24 Gemini). I suspect this only make us seem more unique and bedazzling to stalker types.

Furthermore, grand trines, espically air grand trines, tend to give people an aura of being detached and "complete", even though it's often not the case. However to the eye of a stalker, who is normally someone very insecure and feels "incomplete," this is wildly attractive to them.

Also Pluto tends to encourages obsession and complusion. Stalkers who are attracted to someone iwth a strong Pluto placement often percieve the person as being more powerful or irresistable. A strrongly Plutonian person may appear to a stalker as possessing magical or mystical attritubes, or is simply better, purer, wiser, etc. then everyone else. Somtimes the stalkers has an afflicted Pluto, but just as often they zero in on people hwo have strong Pluto placements.

Another thing to consider is your Pisces Sun and mercury - I have Pisces moon and am often "too nice" and symapthic to potential stalkers, and that only encourages them! Furthermore, Piscean types often are vulnerable to "projection" - peope project their idea of reality upon them. So often times Pisceans struggle to overcome other people's false ideas of who and what they are. With stalkers, this only makes it easier for them to project their "idealized" view of the person.

Also with an Aqua moon, you probably seem very open, at least mentally, and that is also very inviting.

Having both Pluto and Saturnon angles probably gives you a vibe that you have a lot of self-discipline and control over your life - something a stalker would admire and even envy. Usually this is something they gravely lack.

posted November 24, 2005 11:47 PM              

I also have that Ven/Pluto opposition which apparently attracts stalkers.

With a Piscean sun maybe you care too much. Do you find that it starts of with you being very nice to these people and helping them out..and them thinking there was more to IT.. that you "like" them..when you don't..and then they won't let go. That's usually my pattern.

90% of the guys I know have their Pluto opp my Venus. Its very unnerving and has been all throughout highschool. Not mentioning adding to that my Neptune aspects.. like the trine to Venus and the conjunction to Mars.. which again I have with all of them..because we all have the same Neptune. I think I always get the "you lied.. you deceived me bla bla" when in reality I never said anything romantic to any of these guys..but they were under the impression I did.

posted November 25, 2005 02:20 AM              

exes double as stalkers in their spare time, and ruin any future prospects for relationships for me!

very scary!

posted November 25, 2005 09:50 AM              

1) One guy, who I had met only *once* before, stalk me by driving by my house several times a day, then following my to university, and driving by where my car was parked until I went home.

2) A friend who would come to my work, wait in the parking lot until there was no customers, and then come in and corner me. He'd also wait from me outsidee of class and show up at my apartment at 3 AM asking to spend the night.

3) One stalker who had been engaged to his high school sweetheart. When he started stalking me, professing I was "the love of his life", he broke off his engagement. I had to be very mean to him to get him to stop. Then 2 years later he calls me up and invites me to his wedding - with that same high school sweetheart!!!!

4) A guy who was a seminarian (studying to be a priest, already taken conditional vows of celibacy), who became obsessed with me and would show up at my work, senerade me with Beach Boys songs, and leave flowers and notes on my car addressed to his "angel".

5) An ex-boyfriend who threaten to kill me, wrote me scary notes saying things like "I see you driving in your car all the time" and mailed them to my workplace. When this was happening, someone broke into my apartment and stole my favorite guitar, yet left other equally valuable things behind (including cash). I have always suspected it was this ex-boyfriend (he knew how much I loved that guitar) yet could never prove it.

6) An apartment complex maintenance guy, who (I found out later) had a previous *conviction* for rape, who would spy into my apartment and then stop me in the parking lot and ask me about the things he saw in there!!! I got this guy fired.

7) One guy, who I never talked to but lived in the same apartment complex, used to leave notes in my mailbox saying I was the "most beautiful woman" and that he was "in awe" of me. He'd then hang outside my apartment door when I was home. I saw him through my peephole several times pressing his ear against to door to listen to what I may be doing inside!! WHenever I opened the door on him, he's dash off to his apartment. Thankfully he didn't owna car, so when I moved, he couldn't follow me!

And these are some of the ones I know about! God knows if there's been guys who stalked me without me knowing. The first stalker that I *knew* about was in high school, when I wa 14 and 15.

posted November 25, 2005 12:00 PM            

The first one stole my hair to make a voodoo doll. That was lame. She'd drop stuff in front of me to try to get me to look at her butt (It was like...dude, I don't even like girls...). She'd follow me around to all of my classes even though it made her late to her own. She showed up at my (new) school last week for a performance of Tommy. I really hope she didn't see me...

posted November 25, 2005 06:37 PM              

In synastry, both Pluto-moon and Pluto-Venus contacts can indicate an obsessive relationship, and the potential of an ex-turn-stalker.

Has anyone been cyberstalked? I have once - damn that was freaky. It was back in 1997, and the Internet wasn't so security-happy as it is now. I had a guy I met ina chat room who was very proficient with the Internetand was able to hunt me down to any site I visited, and he even got into my Hotmail account. He was a Cap, with Cap in Venus that trined my Pluto.

Some of these stalkers I don't know any of their birth info, but some of my other stalkers had Virgo placements that conjunct my Virgo Pluto. One was a Virgo Mars (he was a Cap Sun too). That crazy ex that threaten to kill me was Gem-Gem-Can, with a 12th house Pluto at 5 Virgo that squared my 4 Gem Venus. He also had Mars conjunct Uranus in Leo which opposed my Mars and fell in my 12th.

posted November 25, 2005 09:41 PM              

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Mmm....My Venus is trine everyone's Pluto from 1983-1991...:-?
Damn.

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Well, yeah, but Pluto-venus contacts are only an indicator of the potential of obsessiveness if teh contact is somehow negative within the context of synastry - other things can influence this aspect and make it very positive too. Remember it's all relative.

posted November 25, 2005 10:10 PM              

Nothing has ever made me that sick. Good thing he moved bk to Canada, so he's not even in this country now. I'm so glad about that. Massive weight lifted of my shoulders.

posted November 25, 2005 10:42 PM              

GN, you're right I should be able to let it out and maybe get help for it..but I feel like shutting it out and pretending it never happened. It frustrates me so much that it did. I can't believe how out of the blue.. from one day to the next you can find yourself in a situation like this at 17. I'm very glad and thank God nothing bad happened. And I'm so glad he isn't here at all. I'm not scared anymore, just angry that it happened.

When I think about him (this will sound bad and violent) but I feel like taking a kickboxing class and just completely beating the living day lights out of him. I'm not violent..I'd never say that about anyone..but with him I really would just love to hit him for all the hurt he's caused. I don't think I could help myself if he was standing infront of me.

posted November 25, 2005 10:53 PM              

I did talk to a therapist abuout it. In fact this is what I said: "I want to have an relationship with someone, without him being a part of it." It took a lot for me to work through it, but I did.

posted November 25, 2005 11:21 PM            

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Too funny AG - I love Mango!

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