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The Mutable Night Force
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posted March 13, 2006 04:33 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for The Mutable Night Force     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Well okay, you already have tons of replies! But still

I'd say you have something good going for each of the synastry charts.
From what small experience I've had, I'll say, even though all the books say nice trines and sextiles are all good, they aren't what I've seen giving people spark. Conjunction between Venus and Mars, well... that's a mighty fine spark you got there.. that IS common knowledge, but hey, rings true I have a Venus Mars conj with someone to the exact degree! Don't know whether it works for him but it definately works for me
Oh and oppositions and squares.... hmm, well stuff was never consistantly peachy between me and the person I have this stuff with but I can confirm Venus square Mars (or Sun opp Venus, Mars square Mars)... well, created spark certainly . Shame stuff isn't peachy now, but wow if that good stuff could've kept coming...
Yes. Good aspect. Not nice and pleasant. But SO not boring!

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Selena
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posted March 13, 2006 04:33 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Selena     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Yes, it does look like the oppositions anywhere in the chart, especially between personal planets, do act like a magnet.
I know many couples who are happily together, and don't have any mars venus aspects. But they may have some other oppositions (Sun/Sun), Venus/Pluto opp. or square, or Moon Mars conjunction (this one is also hot). There are more, but can't think now. Venus Mars is just one of the better known combinations.

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MoonDuchess88
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posted March 13, 2006 04:36 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Selena I'm just curious. With the opposition, does it have to be the man's mars and woman's venus. Me and my boyfriend have it the other way around.

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Selena
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posted March 13, 2006 04:57 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Selena     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Hello MoonDuchess,

No it doesn't actually, I didn't express myself properly. The attraction is still the same, as it is still Venus and Mars involved in the opposition aspect. The books just say that when it is woman's Mars and men's Venus, that it is perhaps the woman who is that bit more sexually agressive in the relationship, as she is the one with Mars (the principle of aggression and assertion).
Here I will copy something I've found on some astro discussions, here they are :
"A few key aspects/interactions that I've noticed in successful
*romantic* relationships among my family and friends are:
-a (preferably exact) opposition between mars and venus. Could be either
person's mars or venus. And I've continually noticed the opposition, not the
conj. or the trine. Search me as to why but it may be good for that special
chemical interaction that is so very essential esp. in the beginning of a
relationship. Remember Arroyo said in his book that ANY opposition is an
aspect of stimulation? Maybe that's part of it. END.
And another oppionion :
"....Yeah well, while it's true that most synastry is bound to include hard
aspects, I definitely think that "sexual chemistry" involves the working
of the more dynamic cross-aspects. ( and I think such aspects have to be
present between particular planets, either in or ruling specific
houses ).
While the easy cross-aspects may indicate a compatible and shared
perspective, which in turn leads to understanding, friendship, like
interests and so on, they don't really have the kind of erotic energy
that creates that all inclusive "It" factor.
Of all the dynamic cross aspects, I believe the opposition is the one
that generates the most sexual stimulus. The opposition involves two
planets that are looking at each other directly, and this polarity is
what feels like that all too familiar "pull" that anyone who has
experienced it knows only too well!" END.
My own experience of the opposition is that it is extremely strong, so strong to be almost unbearable...I myself have Stephen Arroyo's Book (Relationships and life cycles), and he calls oppositions "the aspect of stimulation", and says that some oppositions are "over-stimulating". I do believe that he means Venus-Mars here.
Selena.

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AnaBG1
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posted March 13, 2006 05:42 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
From my perspective, I think Venus-Mars conjunction is still the most powerful. Square and Opp. can be powerful, but I think in the long term, it's not as pleasant.
It could also depend a lot on other aspects in the chart.

Here's an article I found:

The Passion Conjunction

When Venus and Mars match up in any relationship, there are sure to be fireworks. Physical intimacy is often the first and most natural things that brings potential soul mates into each other's lives. You look at your beloved for the very first time and your tummy jumps a little. Hmm...what was that? Before we find out what their favorite food is or what kind of movies they love watching, we romanticize being with them in our minds and hearts, drifting away on an imaginary ocean of dreamy passion.

Venus, symbolizing true love and Mars, signifying unending passion, are a perfect match. If anyone can romance Lady Venus, it's Sir Mars. And if any one can soften up the warrior planet of truth and fearlessness, it's the beautiful and feminine Lady Venus.

Are you a passionate match with your girlfriend or boyfriend? If your Venus and Mars are in the same sign, its a sure sign from the heavens that your relationship is blessed and will survive any storm with even a little effort. What a cosmic bonanza!

Women express the Venusian qualities of femininity and a demurely delicate grace with ease, while men best express Mars' gentlemanly chivalry and gallantry.

Note: A Venus and Mars conjunction is necessary for a good, long-term marriage. This rare Venus/Mars conjunction combination works best if Venus in the woman's astrological natal chart and Mars in the man's astrological natal chart are in the very same sign. If the Mars is in the woman's chart and the Venus is in the man's chart, the female (acting like masculine Mars) may try to dominate or control her husband too often, or the man (acting like demure and receptive Venus) might be unable to assert himself enough and may become too passive in his wife's presence. But this is not necessarily always the case.

Either way, this Venus-Mars aspect is an EXCELLENT one.

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Mama Mia
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posted March 13, 2006 05:51 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Mama Mia     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Is Venus Mars Sextile a good one????

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CeciBeo03
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posted March 13, 2006 05:56 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I would guess it should be a very nice aspect

This is what I found for that aspect:

Venus Sextile Mars:

Romantic feelings are strong and you are very compatible sexually. It is unlikely that the feeling of being "in love" will ever fade completely, and it is likely that you will both see each other as someone very special and dear to you throughout your lives. Your relationship is definitely warm and romantic and very fulfilling for both of you.

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Mama Mia
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posted March 13, 2006 05:57 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Mama Mia     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Hmmmm that sounds about right!!!!

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Mama Mia
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posted March 13, 2006 05:57 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Mama Mia     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
double post...

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MoonDuchess88
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posted March 13, 2006 06:19 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Yeah, the opposition is pretty strong IMO. The two planets are even right at home in aries and libra respectively. Would I say that I'm the more aggressive one? Well, he's a scorpio so I don't know about that one but he's such a sweetheart(pisces moons,I love them).

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Selena
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posted March 13, 2006 06:57 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Selena     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Of course, if he is a Scorpio, then he would be very assertive sexually. So you also have a Scorpio mate, wonderful. Isn't Scorpio/Cancer wonderful, plus Mars/Venus opposition, and I guess trining Sun/Moon. Great!

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Mystic Gemini
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posted March 13, 2006 07:42 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote

Sun Trine Mercury
Sun Trine Venus
Moon Opposition Mars
Moon Trine Jupiter
Moon Square Uranus
Mercury Square Pluto
Venus Opposition Moon
Venus Opposition Mars
Venus Trine Saturn
Jupiter Conjunction Mercury
Jupiter Conjunction Venus
Jupiter Square Jupiter
Jupiter Sextile Uranus
Uranus Sextile Jupiter
Uranus Square Uranus
Neptune Sextile Venus
Pluto Conjunction Mercury
Pluto Conjunction Venus
Pluto Square Saturn

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Duality
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posted March 13, 2006 09:13 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
How about a conjunction by sign? I have someone that has his venus in Gem like my sun-venus-mars-merc and it parallels in declination to sun-venus-mars.

Feels pretty strong.

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Alisa
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posted March 14, 2006 04:08 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I have my Mar trine his Venus but with 8 degree orb. Do you think it is acceptable?

In the composite chart (ASC midpoint method ) , Venus sextile Mar with less than 1 degree orb.

In the Davidson/time-space composite chart, Venus conjunct Mar with 4.5 degree orb.

Can you comment the strength of feeling?

Do you think Venus/Mar in synastry or composite chart is stronger?

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MoonDuchess88
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posted March 14, 2006 05:11 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Yeah, it is really nice . Thats all I'll say . Although his pisces moon makes him a little more, I want to say "softer" but I think a better way to describe it is that when you meet him, he doesn't seem like the textbook Scorpio. Atleast not on the outside. In fact I was suprised when I learned his Birthday because when I first met him he seemed more like a gemini or Aqua. Of course I wasn't thinking about that at the time but I was suprised to find out his birthday, especially since a magazine (yeah, I know )said I would meet one then. But I see his watery traits now.

*ooooh, I noticed Mystic has the same aspect(venus mars opp.)....how's that one for you?

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Mystic Gemini
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posted March 16, 2006 08:03 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
It's a sort of spiritual, intellectual, erotic, mental, and romantic connection.


Almost like heaven.


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Gemini sun, Cancer rising, mercury in Gemini, moon in Taurus *29, venus in Taurus, mars in Libra

-I took a walk around the world to ease my troubled mind. I left my body lying somewhere in the sands of time. But I watched the world float to the dark side of the moon. I feel there's nothing I can do.

-Three Doors Down

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CapGirl
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posted June 08, 2006 10:54 AM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I just had to post on this thread, thereby bumping it too, thanks to Peri referencing the link today in another thread.

PixelPixie mentioned "tangible sparks" on page 1, in connection to a mars-venus conjunction and that just totally hit home! I have the double whammy mars-venus conjunction with this guy, and the orb is about 3 degrees on each conjunction. I have literally SEEN A SPARK on two occasions in looking over at him and meeting eyes! Once it was in the dark in the early morning hours driving in the car, and another time sitting next to each other again in a restaurant/bar.

Darn- this thread makes me want to race over to him, and confront him about this stagnating relationship!

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Selena
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posted June 08, 2006 02:18 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Selena     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Hmm, Cappy,

Are you sure he is, ermm.., how to say this tactfully... he is...interested in women?

Just joking (well, half joking), but how can the relationship be "stagnating" with close Ven-Mar double conjunction?
From what I could conclude from your previous posts elswher, the relationship has never taken off the ground (but I may be wrong here, just my conclusion after reading some of your posts). Perhaps it is this naughty Pluto.
But a double conjunction, how can he resist??????

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posted June 08, 2006 02:24 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for writesomething     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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CapGirl
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posted June 08, 2006 02:31 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Selena- you're right in that it never got off the ground, bc. of pluto games and his past hurts from ex-wife. The attraction is mutual and admitted by him. Also, moon squares (to venus and mars) have caused alot of turmoil.

I don't agree WriteSomething, in this particular case anyway- We have a pluto square venus here, so any more hard aspects, as to mars-venus are unnecessary. There's plenty of sex-sex-sexual attraction brewing, with a sun-mars conjunction too.

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SagGirlX5
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posted June 08, 2006 02:55 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Hi everyone, I haven't been on here in almost 2 years and I'm a little rusty. I'm a sag with aries moon and gemini rising, he's an aries with a libra moon and cancer rising.

His Mars in Gemini is not only opposite my Venus in Sagittarius, but also in opposition to my sun/mercury/uranus and Pluto. We flirt like crazy and I'm almost positive he's interested, but we have yet to get together(physically), and I think I may go insane if something doesn't happen soon.

My mars is in Capricorn in my 8th, and his venus is in Taurus in his 11th, but I know that traditionally the man's mars and woman's venus in the more important aspect, does anyone else have any experience with similar aspects ? The sexual tension was fun at first, but now its just KILLING ME! lol

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Selena
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posted June 08, 2006 03:08 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Selena     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Yes,

everyone experiences these things differently.

I admit, most of my attractions were squares, then the oppositions.

But twice as many people can have squares with us, than the oppositions and conjunctions (say Venus in Leo will square both Mars in Scorpio and Mars in Taurus, but it will be opposite only Mars in Aquarius).

So, perhaps for this reason we meet more people that we are attracted to with squares than with oppositions (I am purely talking about statistical possibilities, purely numbers).
But I would agree that conjunction, square and opposition are way stronger then trines and sextiles to produce that magnetic attraction, the "chemistry".

Because hard aspects imply friction, and when there is friction, there are sparks, the desire to relieve ourselves of friction, which is done with the act of sex.

I was once very attracted to someone with conjunction in our synastry, but this attraction felt kind of easy, natural, effortless.

With the opposition and squares, it was more urgent, sparky, "mad" and magnetic.

I simply find the opposition insanely attractive (I only experienced his Mars, my Venus, exact, less than 1 degree).

So, both were perhaps equally attractive, but the feel of them was different, that's all.

Cappy - it is a shame about your guy, wonderful synastric connections you have there, but sometimes you never know why things happen or don't happen.

You never know one day, things may change, so it is good to move on and trust that the Universe will put everything the way it was meant to be.
Greetings to all, Selena.

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posted June 08, 2006 03:29 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
hi there. I was just wandering... what are the allowable orbs for Mars-Venus contacts? is it a bit wider because they are inner planets?

well, b/c my bf and I have an exact Mars-Venus trine (his mars, my venus), which isn't really an indicator of strong sexual attraction right? but I noticed that his Venus is also square my Mars by 9' degrees. Is that too wide of an orb? because I can say that we definately felt a strong attraction.... but maybe that could be attributable to the strong Saturn and Node aspects between us, because I have read that Saturn plays a big role in attraction as well.

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CapGirl
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posted June 08, 2006 03:29 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Thanks, Selena. I wish I didn't have the benefit or knowledge of synastry and astrology, as perhaps then I wouldn't be lamenting it so. The intensity is almost too much and I've felt the same "can't take the heat, want to run out of the kitchen" feelings, so I don't blame him. And I also have my own uranus square venus issues! haha And a rather nasty moon square mars! Meooow!

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CapGirl
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posted June 08, 2006 03:32 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Look back a page or 2 or 3, for my thread posted on "ORBS"-- you have to look to the aspect for the allowable orb. I think a square is 8 or so degrees... it's different for each aspect.

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