posted December 16, 2005 08:39 AM            

Aries: If their face doesn't get a little red or blushed when they say they like something, they don't really like it.

Cancer: They get more tongue-tied than usual. Then they giggle.

Leo: Their necks get red when they're trying to hide something.

Virgo: The girls cross their legs. For guys, their voices raise pitch a bit when their trying to tell a lie.

Sag: They don't usually lie, but when they do, they try to look you in the eye more than usual.

Cap: They can NEVER look at you when they lie.

posted December 16, 2005 09:28 AM              

With a Piscean, look at the eyes. If you’re perceptive enough…the eyes will tell you everything

Aquarians are too easy look them dead in the eye…if they get nervous ( and it looks like they‘re getting teary eyed ) that’s how you know.

Sagittarians - if they don’t laugh or smile…unless of course, they have reason not to OR they start laughing nervously ie their laugh is not it’s normal loud self.

Leos eyes open up wide lol and the charm disappears

Cancers are funny. They start talking gibberish

posted December 16, 2005 09:36 AM              

LOL but when I lie to get out of something I start getting nervous and shaky for some reason. Then the person just stares and I can't take it!

I have a pisces friend who when she lies, her eyebrows curve upward and she looks all pitiful.

My cancer friend always knows when I lie. she says "I know you're lying! You look nervous and keep turning away!"
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aquarius sun, pisces rising, scorpio moon

posted December 16, 2005 10:08 AM              

Her: where did you go?
Me: I had an appointment
Her: with who?
Me: a doctor
Her: GP?
Me: no
Her: did you go to the hospital?
Me: no
Her: so where?
Me: this little clinic
Her: where is it?
Me: ( tells her where it’s near )
Her: oh……….why did you go?
Me: to see some guy
Her: why?
Me: he just wanted to check I was fine *trails off*
Her: oh.........what time did you leave?
Me: around one
Her: you were there that long?
Me: yeah
Her: oh *get distracted by something*

Man Aquarians can be annoying but I love her to pieces. Weird thing is, she wasn’t even suspicious - I normally talk and talk and talk…how could she not tell I was trying to hide something?

posted December 16, 2005 11:26 AM              

It's funny though because we ask all these questions and then we forget. Like you'll be talking to someone and you'll say "oh I was at the doctor's the other day.." and then we'll jump in saying "doctor's? why?"

posted December 16, 2005 06:02 PM            

If I do actually try to lie, I tend not to make the eye contact that I normally do. (I am very big on eye contact - Pluto conjunct Ascendant).

I always knew when my ex-taurus was lying because he would get OVERLY defensive and throw a temper tantrum.

posted December 16, 2005 08:20 PM              

YES! That's how my Virgo ex was. He would get overly defensive when he was lieing, if I asked him for details, or commented that something didn't make sense. Then I KNEW he was hiding something.

I can usually spot a lie in the people I'm close to. Even if they are trying to lie to themselves. The body language of a lie tends to be universal, regardless of sign.

I can tell a lie dead-pan. It's chilling even to me. But I CAN give myself away if someone calls me on it. I'm only good at it on the first delivery. But I have Neptune in the 12th square Venus, and 11 degrees away from a square on my Sun & Mercury. I could have been an actor - I may have missed my calling.

And I don't lie just for fun. I only lie when I'm sure someone just wouldn't be able to handle the truth, or if I'm not ready to reveal it because it will open a can of worms that I'm not prepared to cope with at the moment. And anyone who says they don't do that, well...they're lieing. Or, they don't have very good social coping skills.

posted December 17, 2005 04:46 AM              

I'm an aqua, nothing gets by me. I usually just don't say anything about it. But I'm constantly making mental notes.

I can tell what's going on between people across a room with by a nod, a guesture or a tone.

I keep all the info under my hat though. I almost never confront people directly. It's always better if people don't realize just how much you know. It's my Ace-up-the-sleeve.

Some people who are close to me have figured this out- so I'm always the first person they call when there's a strange situation afoot they just can't figure out.

Then it's "Let's call Leyla, she'll know what's going on!"

posted December 17, 2005 05:11 AM              

no, for reals. im not ashamed.

people have various motivations for lying. it can range from an overactive imagination, wanting to save yourself from embarrassment, punishment or a whipping, to convincing yourself of something you need to believe, to saving someones feelings to getting hurt. we tend to not look at all the motivations.

it is wrong to condemn an act without considering motivations. even stealing is justified in some options. if you were starving and dying would u die or steal an apple? cliched example but it works.

the people who are so strong to condemn any thing that sounds wrong or has a bad connotation scare me. because they are being so principled that they are forgetting humanness in the midst of it all.

any of you seen Garden City? natalie portmans comment, that she lies for no reason, very much applies to me at times. despite having a grounded second house moon and neptune in cap, i have lots of mutability (gem stellium, 9th house), and lots of writing ability...with imagination and expansiveness (my air grand trine being jup in aqua, libra asc. and gem stellium including sun).

so yes, i am not very strict about lying, or concealing the truth. but if you know someone well enough, you would be able to tell. also i think lying is completely unjustified in some situations, such as with close family and significant others, politics, and most importantly, to yourself.

posted December 17, 2005 08:09 AM              

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i lie all the time. i used to lie endlessly when i was a child. and im not ashamed of it

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Same here lol. Except, I wouldn't say I lie endlessly.. but I do lie to strangers and acquaintances a lot.. usually it's concealing the truth more than lying, because I'm very private and I really don't want anyone knowing much about me. I hate intruding questions.. the aqua type questions.. I'll always get out of answering or give a plain answer.. the plainer, the more *typical* the better.. because if people get what they expect they lose interest and stop asking.

I always put that down to my Pisces Merc or Gem Asc.. Merc being my chart ruler. The only reason I ever lie is to keep things private though.. or because I don't really want certain people knowing certain things. I’m not ashamed by it either, at all. It’s my life, if I want to keep certain things private that’s my choice to make.. and I don’t really feel an acquaintance or stranger or even a friend who isn’t all that close, is entitled to know certain things.. or that I owe them the truth. I don’t feel strange when I lie, no jitters or anything. I pretty much act normal.. might be the Gem asc, or Mars/Neptune conj.

posted December 17, 2005 09:45 AM              

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WaterNymph- What on earth makes you think she didn't pick up on your vagueness?

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I’m not sure if she could tell - maybe she did…but I doubt she cared too much.

posted December 17, 2005 03:55 PM              

Geminis lie by getting very holier than thou, and the voice gets different, more like mr or mrs. showbiz, something different than before. It's pretty obvious as the explanation is never that good. Geminis lie when they want to detach from someone, or they do not trust you because they feel the relationship is getting stale.

Geminis tend to get bored easily and I can see it happening-normally I will try to go out, or get interested in something the Gem will like but the lying can come from frustration so conversation is like this:

Me: I can see you are bored, I am going out to get some stuff for sandwiches, want to come?

Gem: No, I have stuff to do, I have to put in storm windows and it's better if we don't hang out today.

Me: Okay I am going.

Gem: Yes that's a good idea.

Okay it's pretty obvious no one puts in storm windows for fun, especially not a Gemini. So there is the lie, why I don't want to know! I do know that Geminis prefer to do everything, cook, clean, and only like to go out where they can order/do things. If one is lying to me it's because he or she thinks I am being controlling/boring.

I've never not pressed a Gemini to tell me the truth if it was significant to me-Amazingly Geminis feel much better when they do not have to tell the truth because it's part of the problem somehow, having to explain. I have been told by a Gemini that he really expected me to know what he was thinking.

To be with a Gemini a lot you have to be part mind reader. I am sure that other signs do this too, but that's my only experience with a liar other than an Aries, and I avoid all Aries men anyway. I suppose the only good thing about being with someone who has lied to you is that you always know it's going to happen again, and you can take comfort in knowing that it's obvious.

Geminis find me because I seem mysterious and they want to see how I tick. I find this to be a lot of energy, but I still find Geminis more worthwhile than some signs, so the trick is knowing what to make obvious to them, and knowing where to draw the line in your own questions.

I will lie with my body language and my actions always to protect my privacy, but I won't look away or lie with my words. If someone is invading my privacy it continues unless I look him or her in the eye, and ask that my privacy be respected.

I have a tough time spending anytime with someone who lies to me, and for that reason find myself less interested in being close to men who are older than me, younger ones seem to be more trusting.

posted December 17, 2005 03:57 PM              

Geminis lie by getting very holier than thou, and the voice gets different, more like mr or mrs. showbiz, something different than before. It's pretty obvious as the explanation is never that good. Geminis lie when they want to detach from someone, or they do not trust you because they feel the relationship is getting stale.

Geminis tend to get bored easily and I can see it happening-normally I will try to go out, or get interested in something the Gem will like but the lying can come from frustration so conversation is like this:

Me: I can see you are bored, I am going out to get some stuff for sandwiches, want to come?

Gem: No, I have stuff to do, I have to put in storm windows and it's better if we don't hang out today.

Me: Okay I am going.

Gem: Yes that's a good idea.

Okay it's pretty obvious no one puts in storm windows for fun, especially not a Gemini. So there is the lie, why I don't want to know! I do know that Geminis prefer to do everything, cook, clean, and only like to go out where they can order/do things. If one is lying to me it's because he or she thinks I am being controlling/boring.

I've never not pressed a Gemini to tell me the truth if it was significant to me-Amazingly Geminis feel much better when they do not have to tell the truth because it's part of the problem somehow, having to explain. I have been told by a Gemini that he really expected me to know what he was thinking.

To be with a Gemini a lot you have to be part mind reader. I am sure that other signs do this too, but that's my only experience with a liar other than an Aries, and I avoid all Aries men anyway. I suppose the only good thing about being with someone who has lied to you is that you always know it's going to happen again, and you can take comfort in knowing that it's obvious.

Geminis find me because I seem mysterious and they want to see how I tick. I find this to be a lot of energy, but I still find Geminis more worthwhile than some signs, so the trick is knowing what to make obvious to them, and knowing where to draw the line in your own questions.

I will lie with my body language and my actions always to protect my privacy, but I won't look away or lie with my words. If someone is invading my privacy it continues unless I look him or her in the eye, and ask that my privacy be respected.

I have a tough time spending anytime with someone who lies to me, and for that reason find myself less interested in being close to men who are older than me, younger ones seem to be more trusting.

posted December 19, 2005 05:58 AM              

Friend: How do you like my painting? It took me two weeks to get that particular shading finished?

Me: Hmm.

Friend: What?

Me: It doesn't look finished to me. It looks like you rushed through it.

Friend: It took me two weeks just to finish the shading. I've been working on the whole painting for two monthes.

Me: Well it doesn't look finished. You asked and that's my answer.

I tell all my friends not to ask me a question unless they really want to know what I think.

posted December 19, 2005 10:34 AM              

If a person asks me a direct question... well, I assume they want a true answer.

I have hurt a few people being this way.

What if a person asks you something sort of knowing the truth, but not really expecting you to tell them the truth?

They've had others tell them one thing (which may have been true for them, but not me) then when they asked me, my answer wasn't what the others were saying.

I deliver it as nicely as possible.

Then they look at me like I'm mean.

posted December 20, 2005 02:51 PM              

That is what I expect and I ask those kinds of questions a lot, that you are describing but only of those I really trust.

Someone once asked me if I thought he should move to Cuba? Since I had no idea and anything I said would seem like an abandonment or a suggestion, I said if you go then you go, but if you are here I will see you around and be happy. That didn't make him happy either, so if worst comes to worst just ask what the heck else is going on?

posted December 20, 2005 03:35 PM              

It can get confusing, can't it.

I bruised someone's ego this past summer... I didn't mean to. (I'm a little reserved to go into detail)

They asked me something personal. I told them "my" truth. They didn't like it.

I tried to smooth it over. It didn't work.

posted December 20, 2005 04:50 PM              

Cancer: It can be very deceiving.

Sag: I can tell right away. They don't look at you.

Cap: Careful. they cna be very good at it.

Gemini: They are pros.

Scorps: They dont look at you in the eyes.