posted February 03, 2006 09:54 AM            

Each sign is special in their own way and well if you know Astrology and how each sign operates then you know how special you are and what you contibute to the universe.

No need to keep debating about it, Pisces do what they do and you either love it or you hate it. I love it this is what us Pisces do.

posted February 03, 2006 07:43 PM              

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we "know" what they are experiencing, because at one point in the karmic wheel we "were" them.

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Chiron & Pallas in Pisces in the 10th House
Juno in Pisces in the 11th House
T-Square's Empty Space in the 12th House

posted February 04, 2006 12:25 AM              

Oddballs, “fruit loops,” and “lost and haunted souls,” definitely describes most people that gravitate into my life. I’m also the first person everyone calls when they need to talk about their problems. They know that I will just listen and reflect back that I understand their suffering if that’s what they need at the moment, or I’ll help them figure out solutions, or at least the first baby step to take (that Aries cardinal energy always wants to see forward progression!).

I have both astrological and numerological influences that point toward the lesson of self-determination – assuming responsibility, initiating action, taking control and becoming master of one’s own destiny – and it is inextricably bound with social responsibility and duty to the greater good. In other words, my self-determination must be carried out with the utmost compassion and concern for others and not be just self-serving. This is my mantra when dealing with all those oddballs and suffering souls drawn into to my life. I try to help them accept and celebrate their individuality – if that’s what they’re struggling with – or take responsibility/control in their lives. I believe suffering is a state of mind, not a state of grace.

Of course, I still attract the occasional opportunistic “sufferer” but part of the Piscean universal understanding that Swerve spoke of so eloquently, is also the ability to recognize BS, no matter how artfully it is disguised. This may help further clarify the discussion about the “savior” complex. Yes, there is a side of the Piscean condition associated with delusion and fatality, but I think it has more to do with Neptune affliction (either in the natal chart or activated by transit) than Sun in Pisces. Even the most logical Libra or practical Capricorn can get drawn to a “lets suffer together under the delusion that we’re helping each other” relationship when Neptune is afflicted. It’s a valid observation in discussing the sign ruled by Neptune, but irrelevant to why Pisces tends to attract the “fringe” of society, IMHO.

posted February 04, 2006 12:06 PM            

to the forum!

I enjoyed your eloquent post -- love the "square pegs" description by your mom I've enjoyed contacts with those "square pegs" in my life too -- I'm just not satisfied with the "normal"

There's some great stuff on Yods in these pages, I'll bump a couple later today (I have them bookmarked) -- do you have a Yod? There are at least 3 of us here with Moon/Neptune/Pluto yods.....

'Zala

posted February 04, 2006 02:54 PM              

Hipichick, Austin is a strange town indeed. I think it must have a lot of Pisces influence, although I can’t seem to find an exact founding date to check. While its official slogan is "Live Music Capital of the World," Austinites seem to be much fonder of the unofficial slogan plastered on bumper stickers, coffee mugs and T-shirts all over this town, which is "Keep Austin Weird." (Amen!)

‘Zala,

I’ll look for the Yod stuff. Thanks. Yes, I have a Mars/Uranus/Neptune Yod in my natal chart pointing to Mars. Since Mars is the faster moving planet, and all of the aspects have a 1 degree orb or less, I am told it is a "true" yod (yeah, I looked for ways to disqualify it, but no such luck!). Here’s the breakdown...

posted February 04, 2006 04:54 PM              

Swerve, love your mind! From what I've been able to read here and there at this site!