posted February 03, 2006 08:41 PM              

So, I offered to post her data (as well as that of her friend – the two of them communicate with each other exclusively through e-mail) here on this forum in the hope that some of you may have some insights. (Tim, I’d be especially happy if you would give it a try, since I happened to mention to her that there was someone on this forum who always seemed to provide very interesting and highly readable interpretations! )

Upon taking a look at the charts myself, I found that, in her chart, there seem to be quite a few factors pointing to difficulties of the kind that she’s struggling with - such as having that Moon-Saturn conjunction sitting right on her Ascendant; Neptune opposing this threesome, conjuncting her Descendant; Venus Square Neptune; a 12th-house Mars; etc.
The T-Square formed by Mercury, Mars and Uranus would probably add to the internal stress felt. (Though these energies, even when in stressful aspect to each other, would not normally tend to make one shy, would they?)
On the other hand, configurations such as Sun trine Pluto, Moon trine Pluto, and the Sun-NN conjunction tightly hugging the Midheaven seem like very positive, "empowering" aspects to have...
The man’s chart has the Moon-Saturn conjunction as well, albeit in the 8th house, and there is a stressful aspect (square) between his Venus and Saturn. Also, if I’m interpreting this correctly, Sun and Pluto in the 12th might be an issue when it comes to asserting oneself in the world "out there". However, he’s got a strong 1st house with three planets, including Jupiter, conjuncting the Ascendant, couldn’t that "make up" for some of the more difficult aspects...?

Anyway, these are their data:

Person A (female): January 25, 1972, 11.48 AM in Sapporo, Japan
Person B (male): September 1, 1969, 7.40 AM in Wolfen, Germany

posted February 03, 2006 11:48 PM              

For a "newbie", you sure pick up astrology very quickly! All the things you mention are a definite indication of "social phobia".

Just so I have something to say , for her chart besides what you mentioned I will add:
Least aspected Venus (relationships) focused in the 11th house (friends), indicating that she does not "connect in" with relationships, also that she would prefer to be "friends" - close but not TOO close. Re-emphasizing the need for a little "space" in life is Aquarius (friends, also other people's self-expression) conjunct North node (future goals) conjunct Midheaven (outer world) conjunct Sun (self-expression), so she needs to express herself by helping OTHER people to express themselves. This requires going out into the world, but in helping OTHERS to "shine their light" in the world. There is also a kite focused on Neptune (spirituality, also confusion) conjunct (energy is combined with) Descendant (others), indicating that there may be confusion for her with the others around her.

For him:
[completely rewritten due to your pointing out I had created the chart incorrectly!] He has Uranus (friends) conjunct (energy is combined with) Ascendant (self), indicating he may want to be "friends" in his relationships, close but not TOO close. He also has energy conjunct his South node (the past) focused in the 12th house (spirituality, also confusion) so he may be focused on his past in a way that makes it difficult to move forward in life.

In my opinion, aspects can not "make up" for each other. We are the sum of our energies and what we do with them is up to us. We can work at handling our challenging energies by using our easier energies but we can not eliminate the challenges this way. All we can do is to face the challenges as best we can, working toward the goal of making our energies function as a working whole.

Socially,

Tim

posted February 04, 2006 03:58 AM            

Planetary positions
planet sign degree house motion
Sun Libra 25°00'56 01 direct
Moon Aquarius 08°23'01 04 direct
Mercury Scorpio 18°33'25 02 direct
Venus Virgo 15°28'28 11 direct
Mars Sagittarius 04°16'42 02 direct
Jupiter Virgo 28°09'41 12 direct
Saturn Libra 03°16'44 12 direct
Uranus Scorpio 24°00'30 02 direct
Neptune Sagittarius 20°29'57 03 direct
Pluto Libra 21°49'43 01 direct
True Node Leo 17°40'17 10 direct

posted February 04, 2006 04:14 AM              

I have pluto(12th) trine sun,moon,mars,merc(8th),but at the same time I also have saturn oppsing venus saturn on the asc and venus in 6th,I also have neptune(2nd) opposing the 8th house planets...

So I guess I'm a pretty balanced person...?

posted February 04, 2006 09:28 AM              

Quinnie, thank you for posting your data! That's interesting you have the Venus-Neptune square, too.
May I ask if you've been shy all of your life, or is it something that rather developed over the course of time? - The reason I'm asking is that the chart info you've posted doesn't appear to look too inharmonious overall - but then, I'm just a newbie... (I think part of the reason I chose/will probably keep the name is that, in this way, I can always "hide" behind the beginner's status in case I ever happen to fabricate astrological "nonsense" here ...)

posted February 04, 2006 09:31 AM              

By saying that aspects could "make up" for other aspects, what I meant wasn't to imply that they would necessarily cancel each other out. Guess I didn't explain myself very well there...
What I actually had in mind when writing those words was the idea that, if a person has factors in their chart pointing to shyness, for instance, but there are also aspects in that same chart indicating a strong sense of self (where the negative aspects don't happen to heavily outweigh the positive ones in either strength or number), then it would seem likely (to me, at least, but of course I'm no expert ) that the person won't necessarily turn into a shy person overall. Which, however, doesn't have to mean he won't feel these inhibiting energies at least on some level.

Where my own chart is concerned, for example, there are quite a number of aspects in it which, according to so many interpretations I've read, would make me prone to alcohol/drug addiction, and/or prone to "overdoing" things in general - spending too much money, overeating, etc. (which would seemingly increase the danger of getting involved with alcohol and/or drugs, as well). However, none of these things apply to me (except probably the love of eating, though never to the point of becoming overweight). And it's not that I'd need to exert a conscious effort in order to stay away from these things, either, instead it just seems to be part of my nature, there's absolutely no pull (and never has been) in that direction DESPITE the numerous aspects that would indicate otherwise.

So I've kind of been thinking to myself, maybe other factors in the chart are helping to mitigate (hmm - in this particular case, I'm almost feeling tempted to use the expression "cancel out", after all ) the potentially "dangerous" influences.
What would your astrological theory be as to why I may not feel drawn towards more than a few of the areas/circumstances the chart would indicate a propensity for? (I'm just a "newbie", after all! )

posted February 04, 2006 12:11 PM              

You asked:

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What would your astrological theory be as to why I may not feel drawn towards more than a few of the areas/circumstances the chart would indicate a propensity for?

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I suggest it has to with the CHOICES you make in life and your FREE WILL to be who you decide you want to be. When we are children we think as children but when we become adults we need to put away childish things. That is all ye know on earth and all ye need to know! (as someone once said! )

Free Willy!

posted February 05, 2006 05:41 AM              

Sorry I confused you with my comments!

The single-sentence remark I wrote in the other thread didn’t have any important meaning to it. What lay behind it was this: Noticing you had written "complement" instead of "compliment" in the part that I quoted inadvertently made me smile because: It hadn’t been often that I’d observed spelling mistakes coming from you, which seemed to be nicely in keeping with the fact that Virgo energy tends to be associated with an immaculate attention to detail, among other things. Now, in your posts under the thread in question, you were writing about Neptune and how it "dissolves" everything it touches, so I couldn’t help musing that, through thinking and writing about Neptune (which responding to the questions asked in the respective thread required of you), Neptune "touched" your mind, so-to-speak, and given that it tends to dissolve everything it comes into contact with, it may thus have "dissolved" your usual accuracy (as part of your mind), leading to the spelling mistake . I know that you DO know how to spell "compliment", of course, and my comment the other day was intended as nothing but a friendly joke – that I feel bad about now upon learning that its meaning wasn’t apparent to you but caused confusion instead. (*shamefully ducks behind the computer monitor* ) From your initial response to my comment I mistakenly assumed you probably knew what I was hinting at.

As for the other comments you were asking about, they referred to this thread, not to the one about the man born in Tennessee. The person with his Moon in the 8th house is the second one of the two whose data I gave in the thread you’re reading right now. In your reply, you mentioned a 6th-house Moon, in addition to other placements that I didn’t see when creating his chart at Astrodienst. - Regarding the interpretation you did in the other thread, I don’t have any objections at all!

posted February 05, 2006 11:20 AM              

Well, so much for perfection in THIS life! I have edited the comments above using the correct chart information. Yes, my Neptune (spirituality, also confusion) focused in the 3rd house (thinking, also writing) every now and then "jumps out" and plays Gotcha! with me...just to keep me humble! Thanks for pointing out my error. (*hiding under the computer monitor*)

Another newbie,

posted February 06, 2006 02:45 PM              

Thank you for making the corrections!

I didn't know you had natal Neptune in the 3rd house when I wrote those comments, but that does add an interesting dimension to it! You did post your data somewhere before, and I was curious enough to take a look, though the only concrete information I had kept in mind was that there was LOTS of Virgo energy in the chart, including a whole bundle of planets surrounding the Ascendant. Had never seen a chart quite like this before.

I guess I've kind of been on the watchout for "clues" of that energy focus in your subsequent posts, since I'm still in a phase of "testing out" astrology, so-to-speak, constantly looking for clues that may support its validity both in myself and in others, but also keeping my eyes open to seeming indications to the contrary, since I'm STILL (*please don't stone me* ) not 100 percent convinced.

The fascination is there, no doubt, but there are periods in which I find myself wondering if it is not so that, in every chart, seeming "explanations" for just about anything can be found if one only looks closely enough. "If the sign placement of planet A doesn't offer an explanation, then look to the house the planet occupies. - Still doesn't fit? Well, let's see which aspects the planet is involved in..." Then there are the angles, the elements, modalities, midpoints, asteroids, and so on. It's as though SOMEWHERE an explanation can always be "dug up" - for seemingly anything.

Another thought that has been going through my mind is that, while there may well be an order to the universe based on planetary interplays, how could mere human beings possibly know just how all of these energies would effect the human psyche and play out in the way people interact with each other? How can one "single out" an aspect and describe its nature, while there must be so many different energies at work simultaneously, combining to a highly complex whole? Most likely there are planets and asteroids that haven't even been discovered to this day, wouldn't it be natural to think that these bodies, too, must play a role in all of this - that they, too, influence life on earth and always have? And if so, how would one go about determining exactly HOW they fit into the picture, what their respective position in relation to the rest of the universe would signify at a given time?

posted February 06, 2006 04:07 PM              

Thanks for responding with your thoughts on astrology! You said:

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I'm still in a phase of "testing out" astrology, so-to-speak, constantly looking for clues that may support its validity both in myself and in others, but also keeping my eyes open to seeming indications to the contrary...there are periods in which I find myself wondering if it is not so that, in every chart, seeming "explanations" for just about anything can be found if one only looks closely enough...Then there are the angles, the elements, modalities, midpoints, asteroids, and so on...how could mere human beings possibly know just how all of these energies would effect the human psyche and play out in the way people interact with each other?...planets and asteroids that haven't even been discovered to this day...how would one go about determining exactly HOW they fit into the picture...

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This reminds me SO much of my astrological journey of discovery! Doubting everything, skeptical, analyzing everything all the time (FIVE planets in Virgo, remember! )! And that is FINE! I am a Virgo and I BELIEVE in analysis. If something can't hold up under analysis then there isn't that much to it after all.

So I decided, to test out astrological theory and make sure that I am not simply rationalizing my chart the way I WANT it to be, I would stick to the simple aspects to planets (sextile, conjunction, square, and opposition) and test out astrology AGAINST itself...are all the interpretations of planetary aspects given by astrological writers consistent? And I discovered that, with VERY few exceptions interpretations of planetary aspects were consistent amongst all astrological writers. So either there was a conspiracy, a mass psychosis, or there was SOMETHING many people agreed about in astrology.

The next step was testing out these theories of planetary aspects all astrological writers agreed about. I started by applying the interpretations of planetary aspects to my chart and they worked pretty well. I then tested out the planetary aspect interpretations in other people's charts and they worked pretty well there, too.

And I discovered something else. On the times when I made an error in calculating the chart (which I did MUCH more frequently when I was learning chart interpretation! ) the person would respond to my interpretation with something like, "No, that doesn't sound like me at all!" And THAT way I would know I had created the wrong chart! This indicated to me that the chart had to be CORRECT in order for the person to get something out of the chart interpretation...and THAT implied that there was something unique and personally recognizable in the chart itself for the person. (It would have been interesting if you had told the person you mentioned above about my interpretation using the incorrect chart...he, too, might have said something like "That doesn't sound like me".)

posted February 06, 2006 04:34 PM              

This process took YEARS! And, all along the way I doubted, analyzed, and created alternative theories for my astrological results. Yet, gradually a clear trend was indicated that there was SOMETHING to astrology and that it had TREMENDOUS potential to help people know and understand themselves.

To "keep it simple" for those new to astrology, I LEFT OUT all the asteroids, planetoids, midpoints, Uranian astrology techniques, etc. of astrology. I wanted the astrology I was doing to be instantly intuitive to everyone...so they could learn it for themselves and apply the principles. And, with each new person exposed to astrology, it gave me another chance to test out astrology's theories!

The result (so far )has been my astrological website, open to all to introduce them on their own skeptical astro-discoveries! This is only my own astro-journey...you will of course have a journey of understanding of your own as you test and prod astrology, looking for its weak spots. And that's OK! Because astrology has been around for hundreds of years...and it can take a little poking around at its secrets!

Astro-discovering along the skeptics path,

Tim

posted February 15, 2006 07:38 PM              

Finally, I’m responding to your post.
I was very surprised to learn that you, too, had your doubts about the validity of astrology at first, since you seem so assured about its value now! And I’m glad you think it is okay to analyze and look for possible "weak spots" in astrology.

In the hope that I *might* be a little wiser afterwards, in addition to searching the internet, I’ve spent a good deal of time in the public library and in the bookstore lately, reading about astrology. While the material was quite interesting to read, I discovered something that, unfortunately, does not exactly help to eliminate my doubts: In systematically going through the suggested meanings of all the aspects in my natal chart, I found that there were a lot of direct contradictions, not so much in the interpretations of one and the same aspect by different authors (though there were some differences there, too), but in what, as a whole, constitutes the chart. For instance, according to the suggested meaning of some aspects, I’m supposedly inwardly balanced, confident, get along/work well with others, etc., while other aspects claim there are problems in exactly the same areas. Also, on the one hand, I’m being "told" by the authors to develop a more trusting attitude towards other people, while on the other hand there are aspects in the chart stating that I’m TOO trusting/gullible and need to guard against being taken advantage of. And these are just a few of the contradictions. Others were to the effect of "you would do well in a job that involves a lot of routine and structure" versus ensuring "that routine work does not restrict you", enjoying excellent health vs. having a weak constitution, a tendency to be lazy vs. workaholic tendencies, realism vs. daydreaming, etc. With some of the things mentioned in the interpretations I could identify, with others hardly (or not at all). And, what seemed worse still: As a "test", I randomly picked out a number of aspects, ones that are NOT present in my chart, and read what was written about the suggested meaning of those aspects. The overall degree of identification was by no means markedly different (if different at all) from that involving the aspects that ARE present in the chart! Again, with some interpretations I could clearly identify, not so with others. (As a side note, let me mention that I have not neglected to ask myself if *maybe* Neptune is "playing a trick on me" in all of this, though I don’t really think this is the case. A funny thought that has occurred to me in this context: If I ever went to an astrologer to have my chart done in detail, and the result ended up being something that "does not feel right" to me based on my own knowledge of myself, the astrologer could easily resort to claiming that natal Neptune, with the aspects it makes, does not allow me to see myself clearly. How am I going to counter THAT argument!? ) When you were in the process of discovering the meaning of your own chart, did you ever apply "tests" like these, reading interpretations of planetary aspects that were NOT in your chart, pretending those texts were "written for you", seeing if you could identify? If you did, what results did it lead to?
Regarding the contradictions I ended up with, of course it makes sense to think that I am actually "carrying around" within me various kinds of energies that don’t seem to agree with each other, that are opposite in nature even, but this seems like a normal part of the human condition, far from being unique to a particular person. Nobody will ALWAYS be right in their impression of every single person they meet, everyone gets along better with some people than they do with others, feels more confident around certain people than they do around others, etc.

posted February 15, 2006 07:46 PM              

Of course, I have not yet "given up" on astrology, else I probably wouldn’t be writing this. And there ARE some things in my chart which appear to be more than just "coincidence", such as the 9th-house influence (I have relatives living on three different continents and have always traveled to distant places; have always loved and been good at learning languages; my "dream life" – though it will most likely remain just that, a dream - would be living in lots of different places for a few years each, in order to see as much of the world as possible, etc.), and also the conjunction between Venus and Saturn (growing up, it has never failed to amaze me just how easily most people can "fall" in and out of love, often going from one person to another within a matter of weeks, and it amazes me still). Another thing that encourages me to "stick" with astrology is the fact that you were initially skeptical, too, but were eventually convinced of its value, backed up by your own analyses, and with something like that coming from someone with multiple placements in Virgo, I keep thinking to myself there just HAS to be something to it! I’m also going to keep in mind something you said soon after I first posted on this forum, that perhaps the chart does not necessarily describe what I am right now, but what I might become. Since some things indicated are definitely true already, maybe those things that I do not as of yet "see" as true for myself have merely been latent so far and might come more into focus at a later time. After all, I have not yet experienced the first Saturn return and have no way of predicting how my life is going to develop (the main focus being on university studies right now). Something I like about your astrological website is that it does not "over-interpret" the meaning of having certain planets in certain houses, but makes clear instead that there are multiple ways in which the different combinations of "sign modifies planet focused on house" can manifest in a person’s life, so perhaps I just haven’t been able to come up with the right ideas for some of those combinations yet!

(continued)

posted February 15, 2006 07:47 PM              

If you’re not already tired from reading my "novel" by now , I have got a few more astrological questions:
- With houses 7, 8, 9 and 11 occupied and Neptune sitting in the 1st house by itself close to the Ascendant, does my chart qualify as a bowl chart?
- While I had previously thought that, the closer the aspect between two planets, the greater its significance, it is only recently that I have come upon the principle of "combustion" in astrology, stating that planets which are too close to the Sun are "combust" and therefore weakened. Does this principle apply in natal astrology, as well, or is it exclusive to horary astrology? The reason I’m asking is that there is a very close conjunction between the Sun and Jupiter in my chart (0°12'), which I found out is called "cazimi" (a planet being within 17' orb of the Sun). According to some sources, a planet that is in cazimi, "in the heart of the sun", is empowered by this, while other sources (including a namesake of yours, a certain James Wilson ) state it as the worst possible case of combustion, therefore seriously weakening the planet. Do you happen to know how this is seen in natal astrology? (Since the sources I found seemed to focus on horary astrology.)

posted February 16, 2006 12:04 PM              

You said:

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...the aspects in my natal chart, I found that there were a lot of direct contradictions, not so much in the interpretations of one and the same aspect by different authors...I’m being "told" by the authors...while on the other hand...With some of the things mentioned in the interpretations I could identify, with others hardly (or not at all)...I randomly picked out a number of aspects, ones that are NOT present in my chart, and read what was written about the suggested meaning of those aspects...The overall degree of identification was by no means markedly different...from that involving the aspects that ARE present in the chart!...the astrologer could easily resort to claiming that natal Neptune...does not allow me to see myself clearly. How am I going to counter THAT argument!?...were there ever times along the way when, after initial discoveries that seemed supportive of astrological theories, you felt that you might be "wasting your time", after all?...in a different system of astrology...the meanings attributed to numerous aspects/house placements were significantly different from those used in Western astrology...there ARE some things in my chart which appear to be more than just "coincidence"...perhaps the chart does not necessarily describe what I am right now, but what I might become...your astrological website is that it does not "over-interpret"...a few more astrological questions:
- With houses 7, 8, 9 and 11 occupied and Neptune sitting in the 1st house by itself close to the Ascendant, does my chart qualify as a bowl chart?
- While I had previously thought that, the closer the aspect between two planets, the greater its significance, it is only recently that I have come upon the principle of "combustion" in astrology, stating that planets which are too close to the Sun are "combust" and therefore weakened. Does this principle apply in natal astrology, as well, or is it exclusive to horary astrology?...the worst possible case of combustion, therefore seriously weakening the planet...

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posted February 16, 2006 12:13 PM              

That's putting it mildly! However, this experience with the astrologer convinced me that looking at the past in astrology is not that useful and, at times, even harmful. Instead, astrologers need to look at what is going on RIGHT NOW and help the person understand things in their life. Had this astrologer said something like "Saturn is conjuncting your Nadir, so you may feel personally restricted and inwardly concerned about whether or not you are doing the "right" things" in your life," I would have been amazed at the astrologer's understanding...I ALSO would have understood why I felt "tied up in knots" on the inside. This would have helped me to handle the "dutiful" pressure and get on with my life. It would ALSO have helped me to better understand the lessons of the moment and be able to better change my approach to life as necessary.

posted February 16, 2006 12:28 PM              

Another easy test of astrology is to look at what houses your planets are focused in, and see if the focus of planets in the house emphasizes the issue of that house. In my chart, this is easy to do. I have a stellium (collection) of energy focused in the 1rst house (being, also action), so astrology would indicate I focus on myself, who I am, how I present my self, am self-conscious, etc. All this is true. Now take a look at an empty house, astrology would predict that there would not be that much focus on the issues of an empty house. In my case, this is also easy, I have an empty 7th house (relationships). So astrology would indicate I do not focus that much on relationships...and I don't, usually. Only when Saturn (duty) started to move through my 7th house did I become aware of relationships in my life. You have already remarked that the focus in your 9th house indicates travel. Astrology would indicate that a focus in the 8th indicates an interest in "hidden" or "occult" things, and the focus in the 7th house an interest in relationships. Is this true for you?

Interpretations are simply somebody else telling YOU how YOU use your energy. Although I have rarely agreed with astrology writer's interpretations, I have agreed that the CORE of what they are saying is true. Yes, Saturn (duty, also restriction) opposite (energy is over-excited by) Sun (self-expression, also ego) indicates a restriction of the ego...but that does NOT mean in my case that the ego can't be expressed, self-expression is eliminated, talent is non-existent, or an entire collection of other negative interpretations. My attitude is: tell me the energy and let ME handle it for myself...and this is the kind of "interpretations" I give...I deliberately DON'T try to figure out "what it all means" because only the person whose chart it is knows that. Once I adapted this "give me what I can use" attitude toward astrology I became MUCH more open to its lessons for me.

posted February 16, 2006 12:46 PM              

And then began a testing of these ideas on others...and their charts. And I began to recognize patterns in the chart indicated patterns in the person. I had stopped looking at at things in the chart aspect by aspect by this time, but instead looked at BIG patterns...chart patterns, aspect patterns, etc. And I discovered that focusing on these patterns quickly helped me to summarize the energy of a chart.

posted February 16, 2006 12:59 PM              

Not all chart patterns are perfect. Your chart looks closest to a "bundle pattern" to me. According to Tracy Marks of the Art of Astrological Interpretation:

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Bundle pattern - "All planets are contained within a trine - 120 degrees, or...a maximum of 130 degrees...self-contained, focused personality who resourcefully concentrates...[their] energy upon a limited area of life, indicated by the signs and houses occupied by planets...This individual...has the capacity to develop...[their] resources to the utmost. The...[the first planet to have crossed the ascendant, moving clockwise] often indicates energy which may be used to achieve in the area of life indicated by the far midpoint of the bundle."

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As a developing astrologer I leave it to you to figure out what, if anything, this all means!

Taking a trip down astro-memory lane,

Tim

posted February 25, 2006 06:59 AM              

Thanks a lot for sharing some memories of your "astro-journey", I really enjoyed reading it all! Sorry for being so late in responding again...Your replies always prompt me to think and research some more before posting again, and while doing so, I tend to get "side-tracked" by all the interesting information opening up before me . Also, your "easy test" of astrology, while certainly helpful, did not prove quite so easy in my case, as there are things that, no matter how long I’ve thought about them, I have not quite been able to "puzzle out"...

The first thing I did was think about whether transiting Pluto conjunct Ascendant has produced any noticeable effect for me. While there was no singular event or process that came to mind immediately, upon reflecting some more, I found that there actually HAVE been certain experiences during the long period of time when Pluto was approaching and moving beyond my Ascendant which might "fit the bill", although I hesitate to use such strong verbal/adjectival descriptions as you did (which I’m sure are perfectly valid in your case - maybe Jupiter managed to talk Pluto into administering a "milder" variation for me? ). I couldn’t claim for that period to have been "all bad", even while in the middle of it. Instead, let me just call it a time of intense feelings, both positive and negative, and of discovering new sides about myself that I had not previously known existed. It also taught me to put more trust in my intuition about people and situations. (I have no idea whether such a thing can actually be the "result" of Pluto transiting a personal point in a person’s chart, but it almost seems to me that not only do I trust my senses more now, but as though the quality of my intuition has actually improved...There have been numerous instances to "prove" that I had been correct about someone from the start, even though, for the longest time, I may have thought that I must be "wrong" based on the fact that others did not seem to share my view. ) Last but not least, my interest in all things psychological has increased, and I seem to have developed a healthy dose of detachment from certain feelings, people and situations. (Although I had been attributing the latter mainly to having spent a year abroad, at the other end of the world, where I didn’t know a single person upon getting there. Don’t know if it is "really" Pluto coming into play here... )

posted February 25, 2006 07:00 AM              

Since I already mentioned the 9th house in my last post (and there are a few more things that I could mention, which also seem to "fit"), this leaves us with house number 7, the "critical" one, which has served to rekindle my doubts about astrology once more... So, from what you have told me, and also from absolutely everything I have read about it, having planets in the 7th house suggests a focus on "relationships". My immediate, spontaneous response to this was, "No, that doesn’t apply to me!" And, after pondering this point intently, thinking back to my childhood, "wrecking my brains", so-to-speak , about this one simple question, the answer still is, "No". Twist and turn it as I may, I have never "focused" on relationships. All those 7th-house descriptions make it sound as though the person with planets there does not like to be alone and doesn’t feel "complete" without a significant other. While researching, I have come upon several statements of people claiming that it’s their 7th-house placements making it so hard for them to be without a partner, that it is these placement having led them into multiple relationships/marriages, etc.