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Topic: Meaning of Quincunx?
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jkxx
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posted March 06, 2006 01:05 PM
 
Thanks to all of you guys for posting the descriptions on the quincunx! I just now noticed I have 2 between Chiron and Neptune/Pluto and given what was said, that's starting to make sense.I'm just as mystified about the death chart, didn't even know those existed until now. IP: Logged |
wilsontc
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posted March 06, 2006 02:25 PM
Yang,You asked:
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...what is the use of a death chart, if only the astrologer, who creates one, sees it?
My thoughts exactly. There is no real "use" for a death chart, in my opinion, other than morbid astrological curiosity. However, some astrologers like to look into death, and creating a death chart gives them an opportunity to explore possible astrological predictors of death. Staying away from the morbid, Tim IP: Logged |
Yang
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posted March 06, 2006 04:00 PM
That indeed is morbid...thanks Tim  IP: Logged |
jani_jean
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posted March 23, 2006 01:56 PM
got clear with quincux meaning with this and a little sacre dtoo  ...does this " lack of comon meeting place " hodl good even between spouses ie i mean i am a sag and my husband is a cancer .
so it makes a quincunx right ... does it mean we can be or are disharmonious ?
can anyone care to check plzzz DOB: 29-11-80 ,14.35 india ,blore
his DOB:30-6-78 7.10 india, blore IP: Logged |
Kat
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posted March 23, 2006 05:13 PM
I wonder how the difficultly of a square would compare to a Quincunx.Good topic! IP: Logged |
Lauren
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posted March 23, 2006 07:27 PM
Hi Tim,How would a quincunx play out in synastry.. between the girl's Venus (Aries - 11th) and the guy's Saturn (Scorpio - 1st)? Thank you! IP: Logged |
Aselzion
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posted March 23, 2006 07:40 PM
Greetings...Inconjunct (150 degree aspect).. I don't like the word QUINCUNX.. it sounds like it would hurt if you stepped on it, and also a bit risque!  I use this keyword: IRRITATION That irritation can be likened to what happens when a grain of sand gets stuck in an ooky oyster. It IRRITATES the shell's inhabitant, who then starts to secrete this stuff that surrounds and envelops the grain of sand until it becomes less of an irritant, and finally ... A PEARL. The INCONJUNCT combines signs that are not necessarily compatible... ON THE SURFACE. Aries and Virgo for instance. Cardinal and Mutable, Fire and Earth. Nothing in common, and at first glance, probably slightly antagonistic. HOWEVER... some Inconjuncts are a bit more easily resolved. For example: Taurus and Libra. Both are ruled by Venus, so despite their differences, they have a common ground. Aries and Scorpio... both are ruled by Mars. (We always should keep the Traditional ruler in mind!) If you are more enamored of the modern rulerships.. Mars and Pluto. Pluto has been called the Higher Octave of Mars, so still.. common ground. Libra and Pisces? Venus rules Libra and is Exalted in Pisces. See, more common ground. Some are rougher to resolve. Take Leo and Capricorn. Sun/Saturn. However, both signs tend to be involved with issues of leadership or dominion. The one (Leo) is rulership by Divine Right. The other (Capricorn) has delegated authority as a manager. Different, but similar. I guess we just have to be aware of looking beyond what the books might tell us, or what might at first APPEAR to be so. If we apply the BASICS, we will not be led too far afield. Hope that helps a bit. In the Light... The Opinionated Astrologer
A  P.S. In Traditional Astrology, both the semisextile (30 degrees) and the 150 degree aspect were called INCONJUNCT. I prefer to use that term only for the 150 degree aspect, but you can see how they both mix differing elements and modes. 
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Gem-Sag
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posted March 23, 2006 11:00 PM
Quick questions,
I've read on this thread and other sites that the orb for an inconjunct is 2 degrees. Is this kept the same when looking at configurations? What do people here usually use as an orb?
I ask because I have another boomerang type configuration but the inconjuncts are 4 degrees apart. Cheers   IP: Logged |
wilsontc
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posted March 24, 2006 12:50 AM
Lauren,You asked:
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How would a quincunx play out in synastry.. between the girl's Venus (Aries - 11th) and the guy's Saturn (Scorpio - 1st)?
A quick dose of the "astro-sentence" (Step 5 in the link below!)  - nothing up my sleeves...:
Aries modifying girl's Venus focused in 11th house quincunx guy's Scorpio modifying Saturn focused in the 1rst house is Aries (being, also action) modifying girl's Venus (physical, also values/relationships) focused in 11th house (friends, also rebellion) quincunx (energy needs to be adjusted by) guy's Scorpio (transformation, also power) modifying Saturn (duty, also structure) focused in the 1rst house (being, also action) indicates a girl's active relationship (possibly involving values issues) focused on friendship (close but not TOO close) which needs to be adjusted by a guy's powerful urge to structure his actions. This could also indicate a girl who wants a friendly relationship (some "alone time" from time to time) who needs to adjust to a guy who wants to actively use his powerful structuring ("Just what KIND of friendly relationship are we talking about?" ). Since Aries modifying Venus can be a "conquering" indication, once the girl "gets the guy" she may want to "move on". And if he keeps on insisting on all this structure, maybe sooner rather than later! Guessing, Tim ------------------
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sweet_face
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posted March 27, 2006 05:29 PM
I have a question, I have mercury in 29 degree taurus Quincunx 0 degree cap .How can these be Quincunx when they DO have something in common?Unless my Mercury is really in gemini or asc in sag.But here's the tricky part if my asc is in sag then why do i have Mars in 0 degree cancer opposite 0degree cap Ascendant?Unless my mars was in gemini and my ascendant in sag. Can someone clarify this for me,Ive been trying to figure this out.And i know my birthtime/place are correct,i checked my birth certificate.IP: Logged |
wilsontc
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posted March 27, 2006 05:51 PM
sweet,You asked:
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I have mercury in 29 degree taurus Quincunx 0 degree cap .How can these be Quincunx when they DO have something in common?
You have a quincunx by degree, but not by sign. As you indicate, the signs Taurus and Capricorn are compatible with each other, and so have no need to "adjust" because of sign difference. The adjustment occurs because they are qunincunx to each other because of the degrees they are in, and so have to "adjust" with each other. However, there are some astrologers who would say, because the quincunx is with two compatible signs, it is a "weak" quincunx and the adjustments necessary would not be as intense as if they were quincunx by sign (i.e., if the quincunx was between Gemini and Capricorn). Quincunxing, Tim IP: Logged |
Node
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posted September 01, 2007 07:57 PM
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afroken
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posted September 02, 2007 11:28 AM
wow..I have Venus quincunx Mars. Venus(1st) in sag, mars(8th) in cancer. How about that? ------------------
Sun in Scorpio
Moon in Taurus
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Jan_A
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posted September 02, 2007 01:45 PM
There are 5 Quincunxes and 2 Yods in my chart. As if 20 Squares and 10 Oppositions I have(okay less ) were not enough!  IP: Logged |
BlueRoamer
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posted September 02, 2007 02:16 PM
Quincunx is just a nonsense word made up to confuse novice astrologers about its pronunciation.IP: Logged |
Bucketrider
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posted September 03, 2007 03:32 PM
I disagree with most of the official interpretations above. The stock interps of the quincunx are a good example of how astrology is an outlet for fatalistic people who love to prophesy doom. Psychologically they tend to be predisposed to passivity and self surrender, IME. The truth is, there are no bad aspects. The quincunx is not a "fateful" aspect. It is an aspect of more subtle tension than the 2 family aspects (square, semisquare, opp, etc) which are much more overt and "manifesting." It is not a minor aspect. It is major. Though its effects are slower to be seen and realized.
In a natal chart, they may have a longer term trajectory of A. noticing there is a problem B. deciding what exactly is wrong and C. what to do about it. A square presents you with a problem directly and urges you to resolve it. All this unfolds fairly straightforwardly and the situation propels toward resolution. With the quincunx, the propulsion is more subtle and you can almost adjust and ignore it and move on but will be the worse off for it if you dont fully address it. It is ultimately an opportunity of growth in consciousness more than circumstance. It deals with issues of approach and mental circumstance more than manifested, material situations which are the domain of the 2 family aspects.
Quincunxes along with biquintiles and tri-septiles are also aspects of great creative potential. It is very much up to you - how you resolve the tension. The planets involved are what make it more or less challenging. It is a more hidden aspect and has a 12th house flavor in my opinion. Much of the work required by the quincunx is in its essential nature - which mainstream astrology honed in on. It does not have linking or overtly conronting/tense energies as do the 2 and 3 family aspects. Once it is understood and worked with, it becomes a great linkage and has more creative potential than a trine or sextile. It is at this point that it fits with the biquintile and triseptile aspects which are adjascent to it.IP: Logged |
Kamots
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posted September 06, 2007 08:47 PM
All I can say from my experience is that Sun-Moon quincunx felt very bad. The moon person has no empathy towards the Sun person.IP: Logged |
Poupoupidou
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posted May 08, 2016 08:56 AM
quote:
Originally posted by Yang:
What is the meaning of Quincunx, and is it considered harmonius or not?
Neither. A quincunx can be harmonius in some cases, to release tension for example, or unsupportive in other cases. They block the energy between both planets. It's like a tap turned off. IP: Logged |
Gemini30
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posted May 10, 2016 12:12 AM
Can anyone please interpret a Venus/Mars quincunx Pluto in synastry? My venus and mars quincunx's to Pluto with a girl i like. IP: Logged |
Seimei
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posted May 10, 2016 02:49 AM
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Originally posted by Gemini30:
Can anyone please interpret a Venus/Mars quincunx Pluto in synastry? My venus and mars quincunx's to Pluto with a girl i like.
First, you must look at other factors in the chart.
In the past before astrology changed the single one word for a quincunx was "confusing"
After a change to a more modern humanistic astrology that one word was changed to "Clarifying" so first try to conceive that change. Wrap your head around the change and then you understand the aspect.
Now the same folk(likes of Dane Rudyar and Michael Myers) who brought us that change referred to certain pairs of planets as dyads. Venus and Mars are called the dyad
of SEX, also called the point of sex, or sex and creativity. So one of you has Pluto 150 degrees to the conjunction of both MARS AND VENUS. How close the aspect is to each or to the midpoint should always be considered.
2 degrees or less is best, the closer to the midpoint the more intense.
I would say this aspect could go well if both parties are already expecting sexual activity and CLEARLY express that. If not than it may be CONFUSING to one party or the other.Houses and the other aspects will naturally play their parts.Pluto in opposition or 135 (sesquiquadrate) are intense and maybe be too much so without other gentler aspects to contribute. I suspect the quincunx may be much the same. If it lasts there may be some good sexual healing going on as needs are being clarified.
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Gemini30
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posted May 10, 2016 02:25 PM
quote:
Originally posted by Seimei:
First, you must look at other factors in the chart.
In the past before astrology changed the single one word for a quincunx was "confusing"
After a change to a more modern humanistic astrology that one word was changed to "Clarifying" so first try to conceive that change. Wrap your head around the change and then you understand the aspect.
Now the same folk(likes of Dane Rudyar and Michael Myers) who brought us that change referred to certain pairs of planets as dyads. Venus and Mars are called the dyad
of SEX, also called the point of sex, or sex and creativity. So one of you has Pluto 150 degrees to the conjunction of both MARS AND VENUS. How close the aspect is to each or to the midpoint should always be considered.
2 degrees or less is best, the closer to the midpoint the more intense.
I would say this aspect could go well if both parties are already expecting sexual activity and CLEARLY express that. If not than it may be CONFUSING to one party or the other.Houses and the other aspects will naturally play their parts.Pluto in opposition or 135 (sesquiquadrate) are intense and maybe be too much so without other gentler aspects to contribute. I suspect the quincunx may be much the same. If it lasts there may be some good sexual healing going on as needs are being clarified.
Thank you. However i forgot to clarify that my venus-mars sextile conjuncts her pluto. Aries Venus 24.2 degrees
Gemini Mars 23.36 degrees Her Pluto: 23.25 degrees in Scorpio Isn't that considered a YOD? IP: Logged |
Seimei
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posted May 16, 2016 08:41 PM
Aries Venus 24.2 degrees
Gemini Mars 23.36 degreesHer Pluto: 23.25 degrees in Scorpio Isn't that considered a YOD?[/B][/QUOTE]
very warm,, But again place it in context of both charts
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