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Topic: what indicates the dancing ability!
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nove731 Knowflake Posts: 43 From: Strasbourg, France Registered: Jun 2009
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posted February 20, 2006 05:32 PM
I thought Jazz dance was a combination of Ballet and African Dance?If it's not then our Jazz teacher at school is a big fat liar.  IP: Logged |
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posted February 20, 2006 05:42 PM
To me, Jazz form of dance is the kind you see when you go to a Broadway show ... like Chicago, Rent, 42nd Street or Fiddler on the Roof.Remember that famous dance scene with chimney sweepers in Mary Poppins? Like that. Without jazz, it would just be classical ballet, or interpretational modern dance. Tap usually combines with a lot of jazz, and of course, a good base of ballet instruction is helpful to EVERYTHING, including the sport of football (yes they take ballet). But jazz has a VERY classical base. It has it's own HUGE list of terminology you better know if you wanna keep up with a choreographer. "Heel, ball, toe ..." ------------------ ... it's better to light a candle than curse the darkness IP: Logged |
Stargazer Knowflake Posts: 46 From: just left of center Registered: May 2009
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posted February 20, 2006 07:25 PM
yes, it is a combo of African Dance as well! your teacher is not a liar... i was giving more classic examples you may have heard of since you were thinking it was only about American culture... Jazz can combine it all!! good luck with your lessons... its good for the soul!  IP: Logged |
nove731 Knowflake Posts: 43 From: Strasbourg, France Registered: Jun 2009
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posted February 20, 2006 10:12 PM
Haha, I'm not a dancer...It looks fun, but I'm more on the acting side of performing. But I do journalism, also. I interviewed the teacher for the school newspaper after the fall dance show. One of my questions was "What comprises jazz dance?" or something like that. And I came to such knowledge. Lucky me.  IP: Logged |
nove731 Knowflake Posts: 43 From: Strasbourg, France Registered: Jun 2009
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posted February 20, 2006 10:15 PM
Haha, and I just realized, Stargazer...I read your original post wrong. I thought you said "In my opinion, Ballet is not the root of all dance..."And while I'm at it - what's the difference between Ballet and Lyrical Ballet? IP: Logged |
Stargazer Knowflake Posts: 46 From: just left of center Registered: May 2009
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posted February 21, 2006 10:40 AM
Lyrical: Being a blending of ballet, jazz, and modern, lyrical dance smoothly incorporates the techniques of ballet and jazz, the emotions of modern, and the rhythms of jazz. Some dance experts believe it is ballet technique from the waist down and jazz above the waist. The leg work and hip placement come from ballet but the freedom of movement and contraction is from jazz. Others believe what you learn in jazz is all you need to do lyrical dance. However, all experts agree lyrical dance must portray the emotion of the music. This usually means expressing the feelings of the lyrics of a song, hence the name lyrical dance. This connectivity to the music must be in the dancers' minds during their time on stage. They must express what they hear through their bodies, not just through a series of jazz tricks or complicated steps. Usually a lyrical dance flows from movement to movement with patterns using traditional lines rather than the abstract lines of modern dance or the phrasing of jazz. What each dancer must ask his/herself are the five W's: who, where, when, what, and why of that particular lyrical piece. Who: This depends on the music or the lyrics of the song but a dancer must react as a character. Where: Is there a certain place in which the music must occur? If so, how do the dancers reveal this? When: Is it a historical piece and does that affect the dance and its emotions? What: What is the story the dance portrays? Why: Why is it important for the dancers to portray this particular song? What is the choreographer’s reason for expressing its emotions in dance? So when a lyrical dance piece surprises you in a contemporary show, sit back and enjoy the dance knowing it is the perfect mix of dance techniques and emotion. Hope this helps.... Lyrical is actually my favorite to teach as well as to perform... I only sub in those classes this year....  My girls are dancing to the "Sundays" version of Wild Horses (Stones). Thier costumes are great... lots of fringe...I enjoy the whole process....
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posted February 21, 2006 12:56 PM
hey,hello again...i took a course in university:'history of jazz'and in that course teacher said that jazz is combination of 'afro' and 'europe' music...but i learned new from you:it is type of dance also..it is amazing..i am doing salsa,bachata,merengue..they are nice..is jazz constitues that latin dances.. we dont know this dance here..but i saw 'tap' dance in a film'elizabethtown' by susan sarandon... it was nice... take care... IP: Logged |
Rede411 Newflake Posts: 4 From: Framingham, MA USA Registered: Jan 2010
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posted February 21, 2006 01:41 PM
Astro Junkie,Wow!! I have Mercury in 11th, both Venus & Mars are sextile and my midheaven is Pisces (Dancing, Film etc.) plus I have Mars in Sagittarius which rules the legs. Dancing comes so easy & naturally to me...interesting thread... -E IP: Logged |
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posted February 21, 2006 01:49 PM
rede411i dont know mars in sag rules the legs  IP: Logged |
AcousticGod Knowflake Posts: 4416 From: Pleasanton, CA Registered: Apr 2009
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posted February 21, 2006 02:34 PM
Sagittarius, in general, rules the thighs ...to be specific.IP: Logged |
Taurus80 Newflake Posts: 10 From: Registered: Apr 2009
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posted February 21, 2006 03:44 PM
wow Stargazer..thank you for that!!!!! i took jazz in school and sometimes i miss it very much.. Good luck with your girls dancing to "wild horses"..GREAT SONG!!!!!! lots of emotion!!!
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Rede411 Newflake Posts: 4 From: Framingham, MA USA Registered: Jan 2010
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posted February 22, 2006 09:17 AM
AG,ALWAYS the Capricorns who make me see the errors of my ways.....thighs are PART of the legs aren't they????????? IP: Logged |
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posted February 22, 2006 12:23 PM
Rede,AG is being precise because the "leg" is divided into four astrological parts: - Thigh - Sagittarius - Knee - Capricorn - Calf - Aquarius - Feet - Pisces The simplest way to see it is to imagine a person and then to start naming astrological parts from the top down, starting at Aries: - Head - Aries - Throat - Taurus - Arms - Gemini - Chest - Cancer - Heart - Leo - Abdomen - Virgo - Hips - Libra - Bowels - Scorpio ...and now see above for the rest!  Naming of parts, Tim ------------------ For information on basic astrological chart interpretation see: http://www.geocities.com/wilsontctc IP: Logged |
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posted February 22, 2006 02:33 PM
Is there any association between Geminis and dance? Since they're so good at flirting, it seems natural that they might also 'have all da mooooves' as well  IP: Logged |
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posted February 22, 2006 02:42 PM
in my course; there are many gem woman they are dancing so fast...like talking  IP: Logged |
Rede411 Newflake Posts: 4 From: Framingham, MA USA Registered: Jan 2010
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posted February 22, 2006 02:51 PM
You guys know I'm totally kidding right?IP: Logged |
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posted February 22, 2006 02:58 PM
rede411;you are gemini or capricorn  IP: Logged |
AcousticGod Knowflake Posts: 4416 From: Pleasanton, CA Registered: Apr 2009
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posted February 22, 2006 04:19 PM
I only mention it, because I think Sags are rather proud of their control of their burning thighs.  IP: Logged |
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posted February 22, 2006 10:15 PM
Rede411 -So, creative, yet technical? You HAVE to have respect for the technical and traditional in dance. ------------------ ... it's better to light a candle than curse the darkness IP: Logged |
Rede411 Newflake Posts: 4 From: Framingham, MA USA Registered: Jan 2010
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posted February 22, 2006 10:20 PM
Neval,Capricorn???? hahaha no. AG is a cappie, I'm an Aries w/ Aqua Moon & Gemini rising. Sun, Mercury, Venus & Saturn are all in Aries. p.s. I DO have burning thighs though!!! IP: Logged |
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posted February 23, 2006 10:35 AM
Thanks WilsonTC for that handy guide!!!  IP: Logged |
Rede411 Newflake Posts: 4 From: Framingham, MA USA Registered: Jan 2010
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posted February 23, 2006 11:44 AM
Astro junkie,Yes, Creative yet technical. I studied Ballet all my life which gave me a great base for other types of dance. Ballet is very traditional but very stict as it teached coordination, balance, discipline etc... In later years I developed a more freestyle way of dancing but without that "classical" base of Ballet I wouldn't be nearly as good as I am today. IP: Logged |
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posted February 24, 2006 11:31 PM
I agree. Ballet provides a tremendous base for everything. Even my Yoga, Pilates and Karate insructors will all comment on my form by asking if I took ballet. It just shows, even though it's been years.And YES it requires SO MUCH discipline! Big time!!!! At first the positions feel so abnormal to the body, so reshaping starts from the inside out. ------------------ ... it's better to light a candle than curse the darkness IP: Logged |