posted April 24, 2007 02:52 AM              

dad's draco sun 18 taurus is exactly conjunct my tropical valentine!!!!!

do u think he n i r soulmates???

posted March 10, 2008 09:17 AM              

case in hand... present life boy and girl.past life lovers.but its way more complicated than that. the girl in her teens, living in Iraq in 1500's was married to a middle aged paedophile who physically, emotionally and sexually abused her.the husbands father was her Twin Soul

they fell in love, she got pregnant. she begged him to take her away, forgetting all religious and social taboos. i mean we are talking Radical Islam in the 1500s
not to mention her psycho husband told her he would kill the baby if it was a girl . she spent her pregnancy begging her Twin Soul to escape but he ignored her, breaking her heart.when the baby was born her husband was away, travelling. she took the baby girl to her lover and told him to save her life. he broke down and begged for forgiveness. he explained why he had broken her heart. he was in his late 70's. if they did run away he would be dead in a few years leaving her and their child to fend for themselves in a society where women were either employed as servants or ****** .not only that it was a Blasphemy of the the Islamic code that involved execution.but he promised her he wouldnt let his son kill the baby.
that however didnt happen.the husband was told by his other wives of the suspected relations between them and he was convinced when he saw the baby was a splitting image of his father.he killed the baby. the heartbroken girl died sobbing her babys name and calling for her Twin Soul to hold her

posted March 10, 2008 09:17 AM              

his Ast. Karma 22.5 Lib ,Lilith 23 lib , Ast. Child 23 Lib conjunct Her Pluto 24Lib

AND her Karma at 20 Aries opposes this !!!!!!

her Ast. Child conjunct his Chiron opposes her Ast. Lucifer conjunct his Pluto and Ast. Lucifer

his Draco Valentine conjunct her Natal Venus and Chiron exactly... a clear sign of past life True Love ending with her Chironic wound.

her draco Valentine conjuncts his true Node.

her natal Isis 29.5 Sag conj her natal Lilith 29.5 sag conuncts his SUN at 2 Cap!!!!

all this is opposed by her Ast. Kaali ( rebirth ) at 29.5 Gem , sun at 0 Cancer and moon at 3 Cancer

notice how the Liliths of both are hit, a clear reference to the taboo relationship, and the child.also Ast. Lucifer has been spoken of by Jeff Green as symbolic of fall from heaven and the original sin.

posted March 12, 2008 04:11 PM              

what a sad, heartbreaking story!
I nearly cried when I read that.

BTW I just realized that your draco karma conjuncts my tropical Venus-Isis-Osiris-conjunction and your natal ASC and draco Sun conjunct my natal Juno and draco Valentine on 17° Pisces.

I am always fascinated when I see such connections with you guys from Lindaland. It`s like this is a "market-place" for spiritual development (or at least the opportunity for this) through other people.

posted March 13, 2008 06:08 AM              

same if u ever come to India.

posted March 13, 2008 03:14 PM              

"wow DD, amazing, tell u what if i ever come to germany, u better meet me
same if u ever come to India."
We will do that.

"i think another aspect of a past life tie is planetary nodes."
Yes, those are a very interesting concept, too.

I also looked a bit into Vedic astrology, and I am VERY fascinated with the Navamsha, especially if you compare the Navamsha with another person`s rashi.

posted March 15, 2008 12:03 PM            

In the Draco Karma conjunct natal Venus, it also conjuncts eros.

posted March 16, 2008 10:36 AM              

I use an orb of 3° with asteroids (actually I use this orb with most planets) in synastry.
If there`s a dw, and one of the aspects is within 3° orb, I`d expand the orb for the other aspect (only for conjunction / Opposition within 5°).

Karma seems to be a highly important asteroid.
My Mum and Dad also have a Karma- Venus - aspect: His Karma trines her Venus.
(haven`t checked the others yet)

Lovely Lioness,

mutual conjunctions on Karma - Venus. Wow! this looks very strong.
Of course now it would be interesting what other planets are aspecting these conjunctions.

posted March 16, 2008 12:30 PM              

I checked the Draco`s / Asteroids AND the most noteable connections in the Vedic charts with a guy, whom I can never be with, but whom I feel some sort of connection to, though.

First the Draco`s:

his Venus / Karma:
- trine my Venus
- opposite my dr Saturn

his dr Venus:
- opposite my Karma

his dr Moon / dr Valentine:
- conjunct my Venus

his Pluto:
- trine my Venus

my dr Venus / Chiron:
- conjunct his dr Pluto
- opposite his dr Chiron

my dr Chiron:
- opposite his Saturn

his Valentine:
- opposite my Valentine

And from the Vedic perspective (using sign-aspects mostly):

He has Rahu (NN) in Cancer (in Rasi) and in Capricorn (in Navamsa)

I have Rahu (NN) in Scorpio in Rasi and Navamsa.

Also, in both cases we have the same Lagna (ASC) in Rasi as well as in Navamsa (he: Aquarius; me: Scorpio).

I found it pretty interesting that each of us has the same nodal axis in Rasi and Navamsa (just his is the other way round).

The Aspects:

his Navamsa Sun opposite my Navamsa Moon (0°)
his Rasi Moon conjuncts my Navamsa Sun (5°)

his Navamsa Moon conjunct my Rasi Rahu
his Navamsa Moon conjunct my Navamsa Rahu (5°)
my Rasi Moon conjunct his Navamsa Rahu (1°)
my Rasi Moon conjunct his Rasi Ketu (1°)

his Navamsa Moon conjunct my Rasi Lagna
his Navamsa Moon conjunct my Navamsa Lagna
my Navamsa Moon opposite his Rasi Lagna

my Rasi Moon opposite his Navamsa Venus

his Rasi Venus opposite my Navamsa Mars (4°)
my Rasi Venus opposite his Navamsa Mars

his Rasi Venus conjunct my Navamsa Sun

his Navamsa Venus conjunct my Navamsa Venus

my Navamsa Venus conjunct his Rasi Rahu (1)
my Navamsa Venus conjunct his Navamsa Ketu (1)

Seems like there are quite some aspects with the nodal axis, some of them even in tight orbs.

Also, that exact Sun-Moon-opposition in the Navamsa is interesting; since his Navamsa Sun falls into my 4th house (together with my Rasi Jupiter), and my Navamsa Moon falls into his 7th house (opposing his Rasi Jupiter).

Even more interesting:
Moon is my Atmakaraka - so the ruler of his 7th house (Sun) is opposite my Atmakaraka, Moon. (all in the Navamsa)

Mars is his Atmakaraka - so my ruler of the 7th house (Venus) in the Rasi is opposite his ATmakaraka in the Navamsa.
Mars, his Atmakaraka, is also conjunct my Jupiter in the Rasi (I read, that Jupiter is the karaka for the husband in a woman`s chart).

my Darakaraka (sp?) is Mercury -
my Darakaraka (potential partner) in the Rasi is exactly opposite his Atmakaraka (his self) in the Navamsa.

his Darakaraka is Jupiter -
his Darakaraka (Jupiter) in the Rasi is opposite my Atmakaraka (Moon) in the Navamsa.

And some more of those interactions.

posted March 16, 2008 01:26 PM              

yes, I would use the conjunction and opposition within 3° in Draco`s, because only then you will see the real important and meaningful karmic aspects.
Otherwise you could find easily a lot of contacts to anyone`s chart.

Your aspects look quite karmic btw, all that Vertex action, and a conjunction between the angles. Do you feel the hands of fate?

posted March 16, 2008 03:38 PM              

But the aspects with the actor are interesting, too. And I am not even surprised anymore

Aspects with the actor:

DRACO / TROPICAL

his Sun conjunct my Venus
his dr Sun conjunct my dr Valentine
his Moon opposite my dr Venus
his Venus conjunct my NN
his Venus opposite my Karma
his Valentine opposite my Venus
his dr VAlentine opposite my dr Valentine
his ASC conjunct my NN and ASC
his DC conjunct my dr Moon
his SAturn conjunct my Karma
his Chiron opposite my Pluto
his dr Chiron opposite my Sun
his Pluto conjunct my dr Karma
his dr Pluto opposite my Karma
his SN conjunct my SAturn
his Vertex conjunct my Vertex
his Vertex conjunct my dr IC
his dr VErtex conjunct my Pluto
his dr Vertex conjunct my MC
his dr Vertex conjunct my dr Karma
his IC conjunct my IC
his MC conjunct my dr Karma
his dr Juno conjunct my Moon
his dr Sun conjunct my Juno
his dr Valentine opposite my Juno
his Sun opposite my dr Juno
his VAlentine ocnjunct my dr Juno

and the VEDIC aspects:

his Navamsa Sun conjunct my Navamsa Moon
his Rasi Moon opposite my Navamsa Sun

his Rasi Sun conjunct my Rasi Venus (2)
his Navamsa Venus conjunct my Rasi Sun

his Navamsa Moon conjunct my Navamsa Rahu
his Navamsa Moon conjunct my Rasi Rahu

his Navamsa Moon conjunct my Navamsa Lagna
his Navamsa Moon conjunct my Rasi Lagna

his Rasi Venus conjunct my Navamsa Venus

his Rasi Venus conjunct my Rasi Mars

his Rasi Venus conjunct my Rasi Rahu (3)
his Rasi Venus conjunct my Navamsa Rahu
his Rasi Rahu conjunct my Rasi Venus

his Rasi Venus conjunct my Rasi Lagna
his Rasi Venus conjunct my Navamsa Lagna

his Rasi Rahu conjunct my Rasi Sun

his Navamsa Rahu conjunct my Navamsa Rahu
his Navamsa Rahu conjunct my Rasi Rahu

his Rasi Lagna conjunct my Rasi Rahu (1)
his Navamsa Rahu conjunct my Navamsa Lagna (1)
his Navamsa Rahu conjunct my RAsi Lagna
his Navamsa Lagna conjunct my Navamsa Rahu
his Navamsa Lagna conjunct my Rasi Rahu

his Rasi Lagna conjunct my RAsi Lagna (2)
his Navamsa Lagna conjunct my Navamsa Lagna

My Atmakaraka (significator of self) is Moon
my DArakaraka (significator of partner) is Mercury

his Atmakaraka is Mercury
his Darakaraka is Moon

his ATmakaraka in Rasi:
conjunct my Rahu in Rasi and Navamsa
conjunct my Lagna in Rasi and Navamsa

my Atmarkaraka in Navamsa:
conjunct his Sun
conjunct his Mars, his ASC-ruler

his Darakaraka in Rasi:
opposite my Sun
conjuncts my Mars, my ASC-ruler

his Darkakaraka in Navamsa:
conjuncts my ASC and ASC-ruler
conjuncts my Rahu

my Drakaraka in Rasi:
conjuncts his Sun and Rahu in Rasi
conjuncts his Venus in Navamsa

my Darakaraka in Navamsa:
opposite his Moon (his Darakaraka)

Well, I also checked the ruler of 7:

his ruler of 7 (Venus) in RAsi:
conjunct my Mars, my Lagna / ASC-ruler
conjunct my RAhu
conjunct my Lagna

conjunct my RAhu and Lagna in Navamsa

his ruler of 7 in Navamsa:
conjunct my Sun
conjunct my Venus, ruler of 7th house
conjunct my Darakaraka

my ruler of 7 (Venus) in Rasi:
conjunct his Sun
conjunct his RAhu
conjunct his Venus, his 7th ruler, in Navamsa

Well, it seems that we have DW´s of:
- ruler of 7 conjunct Rahu
- ruler of 7 conjunct Sun
- ruler of 7 conjunct Venus
- ruler of 7 conjunct ruler of 7

Interesting.

posted March 17, 2008 01:20 AM              

L.Lioness

ur karma- venus double whammyis sureshot proof of past life spousal bond.

T80
same for you. i had done a thread on Fayte and her hubbys synastry. iyts very interesting. try finding the thread

also draconic composite comparison to composite and natals is a good one.

DD
as usual, ur connections are ...unbelievable.try maintaining a file on your PC of all this work u r doing

posted March 17, 2008 10:27 AM              

I am surprised myself at how strong the connections are to people, I haven`t even met.

Well, but maybe I should narrow it down a bit more, the Vedic aspects I mean?
Event hough the Vedic aspects are whole sign aspects, maybe I should narrow it down to the aspects with tight orbs?

posted March 17, 2008 11:33 AM            

Thanks Venusdeindia,
I haven't tried draconic composite. I tried looking everywhere for the Fayte thread, googling and such, but haven't found it yet. I'll keep looking

posted March 18, 2008 06:02 AM              

And I think, as interesting as all the other systems are, I always find myself relying much on the natals and the Draconic. To me those are the basics.

Even though I am currently reading a book on harmonic. Very interesting. Some new field to study.