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Yang
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posted March 07, 2006 03:36 AM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
What would one look for, in a Synastry chart, to indicate a potential past life between two people?

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zoso
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posted March 07, 2006 04:23 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for zoso     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I'm guessing...Nodes, Saturn (Lord of Karma), and Pluto contacts.

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Iqhunk
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posted March 07, 2006 04:39 AM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Asteroid Karma [3811] conjuncting personal planets and all aspects to Pluto, Saturn and True Node.

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Yang
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posted March 07, 2006 06:51 AM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Asteroid Karma...conjuncting personal planets and all aspects to Pluto, Saturn and True Node.

Do you mean I must look at the aspects of Karma to Pluto, Saturn and TN, or are they separate to Karma?

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GingerB
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posted March 07, 2006 08:51 AM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Correction:

Let's see if I can word this right.

My Saggitarius, Karma, 3rd house, sextiles his Libra Pluto, 9th house.

His Scorpio, Karma, 10th house, sextiles my Virgo Pluto, 12th house.

No Saturn, or True Node connections.

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Node
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posted March 07, 2006 09:18 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Node     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
HOLLY MOTHER! Thank you for asking that question! I've tried similar questions, and have gone thru old posts [not all of them yet] and missed this one. I have been researching a contact with a person for almost 2 years now. Never have I been so obsessed. H13 osc. lilith was a big one. Now I have the Karma asteroid. They both make exact contacts with this persons NN and their natal sun. I am getting closer. OMG thank you!

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lalalinda
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posted March 07, 2006 11:14 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for lalalinda     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
their Saturn falling in your 4, 8th or 12th house or
a personal planet conjunct your nadir

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LILYGIRL
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posted March 07, 2006 11:31 AM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Aspects to North and South Nodes, Saturn and Pluto. Angles tightly touched off.

Good Example is Doc's Sun is 24 Pisces and My South Node is 23 Pisces. And this sort of bizarre "double whammy" assault on our angles: His Vertex is 13 Sag and my Ascendant is 13 Sag. His Ascendant is 27 Cancer and my Vertex is 27 Cancer.

For me these do not necessarily indicate that we are meant "to be" or that we are going to destroy our current lives to be together romantically or sexually even. But let's just that getting out of each other's lives is rather impossible. Until he retires from medicine or I die unexpectedly we will be in each others' lives forever. I would also say there is an odd compulsion to communicate (to "voice") in the relationship and to cut to the chase as though we already know the other on some level.

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Yang
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posted March 07, 2006 04:11 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Ok, what is a "personal planet?" Is that like your sun, moon, rising sign?

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Yang
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posted March 07, 2006 04:11 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Ok, what is a "personal planet?" Is that like your sun, moon, rising sign?

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tbone
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posted March 07, 2006 04:12 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
ive heard you compare NN. and SN..with each other or Sun/ Saturn. Do you think if youre N.Node is opposite someones N.Node and ditto for the S.Nodes than that means you have a strong past life connection?
Or if there N.Node is conjuct your Sun sign??? I have always felt a strong "connection" and feeling of "familiarity" with these such people.

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Yang
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posted March 08, 2006 02:53 AM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
*Bump*

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Iqhunk
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posted March 08, 2006 03:21 AM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Hi Yang and Node,
Study Asteroid Karma very thoroughly.
Every aspect to Karma has a meaning.

We folk at Lindaland are pioneering the study on Asteroids and I am 100% sure this asteroid is the biggest discovery of all [second being Pallas aspects for psychic powers.]

Venus and Karma might mean past life
wife or love.

Moon and Karma might mean past life mother or mother figure.

Sun and Karma might past life father or father figure.

Pluto and Karma might mean past life life saver, killer, murderer, life transformer, co-soul, co-dier. People who may all die in the same plane crash might have this placement too.

Neptune and Karma might past life guru or even deceiver.

Mercury and Karma might mean past life instructor, educator, similar hobby pursuer.

Mars and Karma means past life enemy, victor, vanquished or co-soldier in any field.

Saturn and Karma means huge karmic debt owed or receivable from the person.

Uranus and Karma might mean the said person will radically alter your life/thought/situation because you did the same.


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Planet_Soul
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posted March 08, 2006 04:35 AM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Hi Iq


How about his Karma in exact conj. to my nn?

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Yang
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posted March 08, 2006 04:38 AM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Thanks Iqhunk for that info-really interesting

What about a Karma aspect Jupiter? You didn't mention Jupiter!

It's quite interesting to see that I have only 3 Karma aspects to him, whereas he has more than double (7) Karma aspects to me ( which Jupiter is one).


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Neptune's Muse
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posted March 08, 2006 05:13 AM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Iqhunk,

Fascinating! Would you say only the conjunctions should be considered since it symbolically means the coming together of these energies? Also, what about Karma meeting the asteroids? Karma conjunct Juno, Psycho, Ceres, ...etc? Or the problem of these asteroids would be sharing these aspects with people born the same year?

I edited to correct a typo, Psyche NOT Psycho! LOL. Asteroid Psycho...I wonder.
Great info!

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nove731
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posted March 08, 2006 06:55 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for nove731     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Iqhunk, that's pretty interesting.

What would you say about a situation where my Karma (00 Pisces 23) is exactly inconjunct my friend's Moon (00 Libra 23)?

And also a trine between this same person's Karma (19 Sagittarius 04) and my Sun (23 Aries 43)? Or is that orb too wide?

Heh. I'm rather ignorant about orbs...

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Iqhunk
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posted March 08, 2006 08:40 AM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Hi gang,
I am still learning, I am regressing Asteroid Karma in my own life to assess the transits. Karma conjunct NNode changed my life so much that Uranus would have blushed.

So Karma conj NN in synastry would mean an absolutely fated destiny with the person in question. Fated to balance several lifetimes of karmic debt to enable the NorthNode person to evolve to a higher level.

Asteroid Karma seems more "situational" than restricting and punishing like Saturn. It may also be the Lens through which SAturn focuses! I just dont know, this is a completely new area of astrology. Right now, it is 100% certain that it creates immediate events to balance past life issues.

KArma conjunct Jupiter could mean the Jovian was a past life Benefactor or Expander.

I am using 3 degree orb for asteroids, Nove.
I would say that Moon conjunct KArma with your friend is a clear indicator that he was your favorite mom or favorite nurturer in any of your past lives.

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Iqhunk
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posted March 08, 2006 08:42 AM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
HI Neptune's Muse,
EVerything is linked. It will take us some effort to formulate the exact effects of Oppositions, trines and so on.

Pallas trine Karma would be a valuable asset for a Psychic. Pallas opposed KArma would mean the person should not readily develop wisdom as it may have been misused in the past life. And so on.

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mysticaldream
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posted March 08, 2006 08:53 AM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Hey IQ!
You said sun - karma could be a father figure?
What about HIS karma and juno conjuct MY sun?

When I checked my karma it is at 29 degrees scorpio, exactly conjunct venus and ceres in my natal chart. Does this mean my karma has something to do with venus and ceres?

His karma is conjunct his juno ...... thoughts? both of our "karmas" are at 29 degrees......

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Planet_Soul
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posted March 08, 2006 11:10 AM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Good Morning Iq (:

Thank you for your reply, it sounds fascinating. Is it not amazing how each day we keep discovering more and more to astrology?

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Duality
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posted March 08, 2006 11:14 AM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
What if both people have multiple aspects between their Karma and the other person's planets - multiple lifetimes together? What about inconjuncts and yods with that asteroid in synastry?

Also, what about synastry and natal aspects between Karma and the other person's name asteroid?

I have Karma exactly conjunct my Juno. What could that mean?

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Iqhunk
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posted March 08, 2006 11:36 AM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Hi MysticalDream,
We have to go over every detail in your chart with every permutation/combination,
step by step until you start telling me the indepth about some other asteroid, ok?

Planet_Soul, I was speaking of Karma transiting my north node. In 6 days, I have my 7th Karma return to Natal Karma. I fortunately or unfortunately have Karma conjunct my Part of Fortune [weakly albeit, 5 degrees.]. Let me see what happens because I have to survive then pass on the news, good or bad, to AG who is in for his 8th Karma return next month. [8 = Number of Karma. The most significant Karma Return in a human's life.]

You on the other hand have Karma conjunct NN.
Every action that you do which benefits your journey to spiritual fulfillment should be rewarded practically instantly. Saturn returns would be ultra intense. Saturn transit NorthNode/Karma, had you done my kind of yoga/meditation, you might have seen each and every past life of yours. How has your life been? 10 downs to 1 up or fairly balanced? Tell us more, you hold many pieces of this jigsaw puzzle.

Duality, lets keep the Yods out of this for a while , it is already getting complex.
Multiple aspects = Multiple Lifetimes, thats a beautiful insight from you!

Karma conjuct Juno? I would think you are destined to balance your unfulfilled passions of past lives in this life. If you had too much sex/orgasms/fantasies from lovers in the past life, then less now. And vice versa.

I know someone who has Karma conjuct Pluto conjuct Sun conjuct Sekhmet conjuct Atlantis. 2 degree orb. 6 degrees from Mercury. All of this in Scorpio. And yet she does not have the slightest clue on esoterics whereas I keep wondering what it would like to have that powerpacked super stellium. So those of you who can appreciate esoterics, enjoy the Karma , for billions live in unfortunate ignorance

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Duality
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posted March 08, 2006 01:34 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Thanks lqhunk


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Karma conjuct Juno? I would think you are destined to balance your unfulfilled passions of past lives in this life. If you had too much sex/orgasms/fantasies from lovers in the past life, then less now. And vice versa.

Lets make one thing clear, shall we? A woman cannot have too many orgasms - ever

Seriously now, forget the yods but what about inconjuncts?
And, would you give any significance to aspects between name asteroids and Karma?

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Iqhunk
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posted March 08, 2006 01:46 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Aah Yes but she can have one too many lovers in one life and that is a whole lot of karma.
Sexual union with multiple partners, for some strange reason it is said to carry more karma, obviously due to Auric mixing. I wrote about it before.

Quincnux or Inconjunct is said to be adjustment, conflict resolution or compartmentalization. In Synastry, it would mean a place where a minor conflict has to be resolved by adjustment. 2-3 degree orbs are used for quincnux. Can you tell me the exact Asteroid and the planet/asteroid with which quincunx is made? In which sign and house?

Name Asteroids and Karma would simply mean that any person or place or work relating to the name of the Asteroid would find favor/disfavour with the person depending on the aspect made.

EXample, if Joe has Moon square asteroid Beethoven, he would hate classical music from the inside unless and until he strives to understand it better. If Brenda has Mars conjunct Asteroid "David Hasselhoff", she would inexpicably be infatuated with the said person even if she hates BayWatch.
She would also instinctly be more responsive to any person whose name is David. SOemthing like Name Frequency having an effect.

KArma conjunct would simply mean the effect is to resolve a past life conflict or good debt with the said person. ANyone with KArma conjunct David would have to watch for events with David in their life. It can be business, personal, friendship or simply a liking for the Biblical David or an indication that the person could have been a subject o King David in those times.

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