posted March 18, 2006 10:41 AM              

Well, you and i share a Libra Rising in Vedic Astrology. In Jyotish, Libra has a very very different meaning compared to the Western Tropical system.

LIBRA LAGNA:-

Libra's symbol, the scales makes natives of this mercantile sign less likely to be lawyers than retailers or merchants, a predilection which is reinforced by Libra's position as the natural zodiac's seventh house.

The natives do, however, particularly like the public professions because the Moon, a public planet, is the lord of the tenth house, which indicates both the public and one's profession. Since Venus is debilitated in the twelvth house of this ascendancy, The natives often have difficulty controlling expenditures and tend to waste their resources, both physical and financial. This debility may lead them into sexual escapades which they may live to regret.

Since (according to jyotish standards) Venus is Jupiter's enemy, Venus is disclined to accept any well-intentioned advise from Jupiter, the lord of wisdom and intuition, and the natives often have difficulty acceptiong wise counsel. Sometimes even causing the natives wisdom to become somewhat "clouded". Also Libra is a fast, active sign, which ignores advise actively.

The Sun rules the 11th house for this chart and since the ascendant lord Venus is a social planet, friend, clubs, societies etc are all important for the native. However, they are often led astray by bad company since the sun is debilitated in the first house, and over concern with their social lives may cause them to permit their friends to waste their time. They are also fashion conscious as Venus is the Fashionista-Diva of the planets.

Saturn being a friend of Venus gives the native a pronounced interest in politics or social causes as both the fourth house (the masses) and the fifth house (the formation of govt bodies) indicates government and social causes. However, Saturn as the fifth house's lord indicates loss or inability to conceive or perhaps troubles through or to the children. However, the position of the moon can help in this aspect, which we shall cover now.

Your Moon is in the Lunar Mansion of "Pushya"

This lunar mansion is symbolized by he udder of a cow. The sign of Cancer, ruled by the moon, also represents the maternal aspect of providing milk and nurturance ro her children. According to many vedic-scholars, Pushya, a god-like Lunar mansion is considered the most auspicious of all the lunar mansions for Spiritual Maturity.

The ruling deity is Brihaspati (India's jupiter archetype), lord of sacred speech and prayer, reflecting intuitive wisdom, good fortune, powerful speech and purification of the psyche. It's power is the ability to create spiritual energy. All forms of worship and/or spiritual practices are emphasized here.

Saturn is the ruling planet, whcih brings stability and enables creativity to fructify into entierly new forms. A vibrant traquility, faith in oneself, and fullness of life can occur due to the interaction of Jupiter and Saturn. Pushya increases our positive efforts and good karma through hard work and discipline.

Archetypal symbols connected with this lunr mansion include a flower, a circle, and an arrow. The flower represents the "act of blossoming" that is experienced here, as well as "the specific limited destiny assigned to the individual that he or she must aspire to", and " the beauty and symmetry destined to be gained". The circle reflects the possibility of attaining wholeness, with the arrow representing the attempt to hit the target with strength and power.

The dark side of Pushya can be a stubborn, selfish nature. Arrogance, pride and jealousy may be experienced at times. The native needs to be more discriminating in their choice of friends as well.

Pushya has the power to overcome negative influences and assert its benefic nature. They can be quickly deflated by criticsm and may doubt their own worth due to opinions of others. Insecurity and strong attachments to family members can inhibit growth.

This Lunar Mansion indicates someone who is learned, has a composed mind, virtuous, liked by many, wealthy, political interests. Their life improves after 33. they have problems with the family and some strong issues with the mother... (Famous people with this Lunar Mansion are:- Mikhail Gorbachev, Clint Eastwood, Tom Hanks, Dan Quayle, Jimmy Swaggart, Mary Tyler Moore, Jimi Hendrix)

Career wise this supports:- politics, government positions, geologists, aquatic biologist, military/police, musicians and artists.

Health issues that may come up:- skin problems, eczema, stomach ulcers, nausea, chest problems.

Lemme know what you think

If you could provide me with the house positions i can give you more info about what your vedic chart says.

posted March 22, 2006 03:04 PM              

It's not doom and gloom my dear friend... I've just given you pin points of what perhaps lays ahead. They stars incline, they do not compell. There is more to reveal yet, i still have to interpret more. With your permission ofcourse.

However, did you connect with what was said, did it "fit" you?

Let me know

posted March 27, 2006 10:05 AM              

I have a very difficult relationship with my father,I do have a soft spot for pretty faces (but who doesn't hahaha) and really to be honest I may be a little uncomfortable with ackowledging the rest as it is so personal but it would be foolish of me to dismiss it as just sheer ramblings!!!

TheEvolution: Thanks for the advice.

posted July 22, 2006 08:33 PM              

I will agree that Vedic can at times be a tad fatalistic, but only because the way the interpretations are translated into modern works. Translations, no matter how perfect, often loose a certain level of meaning.

As far as it being made for a "man". Well, in my years of practice, I haven't come across such a notion. Perhaps since the books/teacher's I've had were more liberal towards gender issues. However, the culture of ancient vedic Indian times was a tad masculine-oriented, the feminine, including the sacred feminine has always held more power than any masculine energy. In fact, the most ancient scriptures describe the trinity of Bhrama, Vishnu, and Shiva, to often seek the help of the divine Saraswati, to guide them whenever they made a folly. It is said that Saraswati, (in the form of Kali) is a reason why the vedic world survived a certain annihilation. Even now-a-days, in India, of all the religious pilgrimage spots, the temple of Vaishnu Devi, is considered the most potent place of spiritual energy.

Yes, Western is more freeing, I will agree. Yet, one can only appreciate the vedic method only after studying it or understanding it.

A book i can recommend for beginners is:

Light on Life: An Introduction to the Astrology of India ---- By Hart Defouw and Robert Svaboda.

This duo made a pilgrimage to India and wrote this magnificent book, explaining the myths and mythos in a clear concise, yet dare i say, Magical manner.

However, To each their Own.

posted July 23, 2006 01:16 PM            

I have to put my two sense.

I read somebody saying how they can't relate to their taurus rising because losing temper easily,etc.

The person has Moon square Mars

You have to look for things that modify.

Like if a person with Aquarius Sun can relate to being a Pisces, the person could have a Pisces Moon or have something like Sun square Neptune.

You have to take the whole chart into account.

personality traits aren't just based on sunsign nor ascendant nor moon alone. You have to look at the aspects and everything else

No Astrology is more accurate than the other. It really depends on who is using the system.
There are so many insights that various astrological systems can bring.

I prefer western astrology myself,and I have been doing readings since summer of 1999. I am very accurate,and so I feel that western astrology is very accurate. I am more into psychological astrology. I don't like things like prediction.

posted July 23, 2006 05:52 PM              

I believe you're talking about Gert, who felt the interpretation of his Vedic Aries Lagna, suited him more than his Western Taurus Ascendant.

Yes, I agree 100% with you that it takes many other things in a persons chart beyond the basic, Sun, Moon, and Rising Sign. Infact, that's what Vedic astrology stresses upon. However, since you bought up that point, I was just interpreting the Vedic Aries ascendant, because that was all that was reveiled to me. It was only afterwards that i interpretted the Lunar Mansion where the moon resided, as well as the planets in the houses and the signs.

It was Gert, who felt the description of the Aries Vedic Lagna, suited him more than his Western Taurus Ascendant.

I Agree with you that,

"No Astrology is more accurate than the other. It really depends on who is using the system.
There are so many insights that various astrological systems can bring."

It is a very wise point you have made. I use both systems, and find them accurate to my "clients" needs. However, since I've gone indepth in both fields, I can only say that Vedic offers as much psychological insight as well as predictive insight, in some cases, even more richer descriptions that Western. Not that I'm saying its superior, as none is superior to the other. However, the thing that plagues many who doubt Vedic methods and analysis, is basically bad vedic literature. Almost similar to someone learning Wicca, through Charmed and Silver Ravenwolf books. It has barely a shred of truth, wrapped around cloaks of fallacy.

In a previous post of mine, i gave the name of a particular book which i feel is the best for the western student, as the authors themselves are "westerners". It's very easy and comprehensive to read, and one of the few accurate texts out there in Vedic Astrology.

I understand you disliking for prediction, yet you see, if you understand the way predictions are used in the vedic sense, as written in the above mentioned book, perhaps you would see the deep psychological boons hidden within the predictive art of Vedic Astrology.

I appreciate, your two cents. I hope you appreciate my side as well.

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Hello Scorpio Rising

First of all, where the phuck did you get that your vedic sun is gemini. Your vedic sun is Aries by all means. Not gemini!

To see for your "Mangal-dosha" in the 7th, i would have to check your chart. Could you go to this site. www.astroiq.com and make your chart on it, and paste all the information of your chart over here the way gert did. That way I can have a looksie.

Vedic only seems "Destined" because the astrologer who abuses it, and needs to make his client crippled enough that they use his predictions as a crutch. Which is why I end up defending Vedic astrology many a times, due to the misconceptions made by numerous charlatans, creating a negative impact of it, and charging enormous amounts for consulting. This is done allot in India, which is sad, because it was actually Vedic astrology that coined the term "The Stars incline, not compell".

However, at the end, to each their own

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posted July 23, 2006 08:04 PM              

I understand about the kind of chart you might have had prepared, with no reading. Unfortunately most vedic sites never give interpretations as many a vedic astrologers feel that their "knowledge" is for their own elite-self. Which is a very innappropriate thing, and hence leads to a whole lot of misconceptions. Most of these "elite" astrologers are just "fluffy-bunnies" who pick up one book from a local street corner, and then cram it up, and use it to practice vedic astrology. Although it's a sheer abuse to such a divine science.

However, if you would like, I can give you a certain amount of interpretations. Unfortunately, not a full one, as for an authentic vedic interpretation, an astrologer constructs over 5 natal charts. Yes, 5, for certain reasons I would perhaps explain at a more appropriate time. Analyzing and creating all 5 takes quite some time and is quite a task.

However, if you fill in your details in www.astroiq.com and then paste them the way gert did, I can interpret the basic things in the chart for you like i did for him. And in "this page" the very first post is a description of the Vedic Libra Rising I made for anabelle. Perhaps if you read that and give me your opinion as to how it fits you, along with posting your chart details here, I can give you a basic interpretation.

It's an honor sharing whatever knowledge I have with you all. After all, knowledge of all kinds only helps us on our journey to seek the truth. I'm just honored you and the others appreciate it.

Thank you

posted July 23, 2006 09:18 PM              

That site is not working for some reason. It wont let me sign up. Sorry-according to Vedic-I have a Gemini moon. I think my western cancer moon fits me to a T! = ) I'd love to get a 2nd take on my vedic chart. You seem to have some profound knowledge regarding these things. = )

Any other way I can get my info to you?

posted July 23, 2006 09:56 PM              

I'm sorry that the site doesnt work, however if you give me your details, i'll make your charts manually. It's actually easier to cast a vedic chart manually than a western one. Although do be a bit patient with me.

However, do try try again, maybe the error was just a temporary thing. Try checking your emails after you clicked on "submit".

posted July 24, 2006 01:03 PM            

Hi Divine Goddess,

I do respect your 2 cents. I believe that Vedic Astrology is very accurate and tells the same information that Western Astrology does. I understand that the nodes in Vedic Astrology are like outerplanets in Western Astrology. I know that the navamsha is used to determine the true strengths of planets in the main chart. I know that it's the marriage chart and that it is also a main finetuner chart that get additional information.

I understand the prediction of Vedic Astrology is based on karma.

I have a few Vedic Astrology books myself including Light on Life. I know that charts can be read from the Moon being the lagna.

I have Sun,Mercury,and Venus in Libra in Vedic. I have Moon in Aquarius in Vedic. I have Leo Ascendant. Satabisha is my lunar nakshatra. I have Ketu in Cancer in 12th,and that seems like my Moon in Pisces square Neptune in western Astrology. I even have Rahu in Capricorn in 12th house from Moon.

I prefer western astrology for psychological stuff...especially when I use the outerplanets,midpoints,and declinations.