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gert
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posted March 08, 2006 09:07 AM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Has anyone checked out vedic astrology? I think they use a completely different system to the one I am familiar with but oddly enough ,their chart allso rings true(despite its contradictions when compared to the western version).

I found it quite interesting to know that according to them I have

Asc in Aries
Sun in Saggittarius
Moon in Gemini(wow,thats a new one)
Mercury in Sagittarius(I suspected as much.I have been told I have an uncurable case of foot in mouth disease)
Venus in Libra
Mars in Virgo
Jupiter in Scorpio

and then theres is RAHU and KETU ( quite frankly I don't know what that is)

Any thoughts on my new found discovery.I think that maybe they use the placements of each house instead of the sign.I am so excited for some reason.Any comments

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posted March 08, 2006 09:19 AM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Hi gert

Are you able to put up a link please...I would like to have a look into this

Thanks

Sue

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posted March 08, 2006 02:14 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Hey Gert

As a practioner of both Vedic and Tropical/Western Astrology... i feel i can tell you something about Vedic Astrology.


Vedic Astrology is basically called "Jyotish" (Pronounced Joh-teh-sh)

Jytoish is a Sanskrit term derived from two roots: "Jyoti", which means light, ans "Isha", which means Lord or God.

Jyotish, then, literally means the Lord of Light, with special reference to the Sun, Moon, and planets. It is a science of the study of heavenly lights and their effects on human life.

Jyotish helps to achieve the four main goals of human life: Dharma (religious merit), Artha (acquiring wealth), Kama (worldly enjoyment), and Moksha (liberation).

It governs not only individual life, but global affairs as well. The study of the influence of light on every living and non-living thing is the science of Jyotish.

Now everything in the universe is moving and changing, and that which is moving is bound by time. Stars are luminous bodies radiating energy into space. The rays of light, then, come from the stars and planets, which are surrounded by their own magnetic and gravitational fields influencing this light. The Earth, then, receives this light.

According to ancient Jyotish Shastra (scriptures), Saturn is the most distant planetary body influencing the Earth, and the Moon is the nearest. The Sun is considered the soul of our solar system. These light energies coming from the Sun, Moon, Planets and stars all separately influence the physical, environmental, mental and spiritual status of all beings. This light also affects the dark recess of distant futire. (Just consider the fact that the light from many stars began its journey millions of years ago)

The ancient science of Jyotish uses accurate mathematical calculations to determine the position (past, present, and future) of the heavenly bodies in order to foretell the future of individuals and the fate of nations, empires, kingdoms, wars, revolutions, and other terrestrial events.

Jyotish also believes that man is a creation of the cosmos. It also believes that everyone has a unique physical constitution. This combination governs the entire psychosomatic make-up of an individual. The unique combination of every individual depends entirely upon the specific date, time and location of physical birth. So it is very important to check in the "Kundali" (vedic astrological chart) for personal compatibility before marriage, in order to bring clarity, communication, and success in marital life. People should plan well in advance for conception, building a house, starting a business, commencing a new job, or beginning any auspicious work according to the most favorable planetary positions.

Just as imbalance of bodily "Dosha" (form, type) causes disease, likewise, the undesirable effect of certain planets can become a causative factor in ill health. According to the ancient holisitc medicinal science of Ayurveda, every individual has seven bodily tissues, and according to Jyotish, they are each influenced by the different planets. For example, the Sun influences consciousness and eyes, the Moon governs the mind, Mercury the intellect, and Jupiter supervises knowledge. Mars is related to the blood and liver, Saturn rules the neuro-muscular systems. Venus governs the reproductive systems and artistic talents.

Jyotish can be studied under several diffent aspects: astro-physiology, psychology, etiology, pathology, symptomatology, and therapeutics. Like any other Vedic (ancient Indian wisdom) discipline, the study of Jyotish needs the guidance and blessings of a guru (one who has mastered the subject) in order to have the insight to read and interpret the Jyotish chart. It is a wonderful healing science which can suggest certain stones, gems, crystals, and metals to balance the undesirable effects of planets. Jyotish also advises fasting on certain days to lessen the negative effects. It van also recommend a proper mantra, aspect of God to channel or worship, and certain spiritual rituals inorder to neutralize Karmic and planetary effects. (From 4 years of thorough study and practice..it really does help)

In the true sense of the word, the science of Jyotish embraces the whole human being in order to bring health, happiness and harmony in personal relationships and in the business world.

A beautiful blend of the spiritual and the practical, Jyotish is the oldest as well as considered by many (including many of the Tropical/Western Astrologers) for being the most accurate of all types of Astrology

I hope you enjoyed reading this... If you'd like more info... i can go way into the details..even provide myths to the planets, and throw light on the mystery of RAHU and KETU.


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posted March 09, 2006 07:10 AM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Thank you for all that information.Very interesting indeed however,is it conclusive,is it valid can one take it as being the same as the western astrological perspective?

Oh yeah and the site www.astroiq.com

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posted March 09, 2006 07:55 AM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
this site is damn cool rlated to vedic astrology.., check it out!!!
www.scientificastrology.com/freegrahanilaeng.htm

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posted March 09, 2006 02:04 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Hello Gert

I'm glad you found what i had to say interesting.

Now to answer your questions:-

Is it conclusive?

Yes. Jyotish is considered to be one of the most precise and accurate disciplines of Astrology. Famous Tropical/Western Astrologers like Alan Leo, Sepharial, Cheiro, Vivian E Robson to name a few always based their theories upon Vedic theories. The calculation of the Pre-natal Epoch among other things is solely a Jyotish body. And it has been proven to be more accurate when measured under the Jyotish system of measurements, rather than the Tropical/Western systems.

Is it Valid?

Well, the modern day astrology did originate from Jyotish. The tree can only be as strong as its roots.


Can one take it as being the same as the Western Astrological Perspective?

I don't think so.
Although the Tropical/Western did stem from the Jyotish seed of wisdom, the two of them are very different in their perspectives. The disparity amongst the signs is one issue, as one deals with the elliptic belt, and the other deals with fixed constellations. As well as the Jyotish system basically sticks to the Equal House divisional system, which all most all of the Western practioners have abandonned as useless (although, The Equal House system was the divisional system that Linda herself used, as she believed in the value of ancient wisdom).
However, the Jyotish system has follows a system of Planetary periods, as well as, transits to aid predictions. The Western/Tropical doesn't acknowledge the value of planetary periods, and hasnt even calculated them in accordance to their philosophies. This is why many Western Astrologers can never give an "Exact" prediction the way the Jyotish Astrologers do.
On the other hand, Jyotish doesnt deal with the planets beyond Saturn. They accomodate RAHU and KETU (the north and south nodes) as planets with roles as important to the main planets from Mercury to Saturn. Even though the Western/Tropical system takes in Uranus, Neptune, Pluto, and numerous other asteroids and Chiron, they havent found the true value to the Lunar nodes, and hence treat them like extra pointers to look into.

At the end of the day, Both systems have their share of differences, however, they both work. In different ways perhaps, but have the same goals.

If you'd like, I can go into further details about the philosophies and mythologies of Jyotish to give you a better understanding.

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posted March 09, 2006 02:06 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Infact, we in India, follow vedic astrology. Much more accurate than the generalized western cousin!

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posted March 09, 2006 05:38 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Moon666child,
Anyway of getting free charts etc. on the internet? I've been interested in Vedic astrology and like to learn more about it.

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gert
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posted March 10, 2006 10:44 AM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I must say this whole thing has now opened up a whole new can of worms.

Again,thank you very much for the information,it is still so very interesting to me.I always assumed western astrology was the be all and end all of all things.But I still have one question though:

I now know that my moon,mercury,jupiter and rising sign have all changed-to say but a few.Can I still read the western descriptions of each under the vedic sign or do I rather consult the vedic descriptions under the vedic signs? Do you get what I am saying?

Okay,just to clarify things let me make an example. According to western astrology I am Taurus rising but to vedic astrology I am Aries rising.Do I now read the descriptions of Aries rising under the western point of view or must I rather look for the vedic description of my rising sign?Won't the two contradict each other?

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<i>As well as the Jyotish system basically sticks to the Equal House divisional system, which all most all of the Western practioners have abandonned as useless (although, The Equal House system was the divisional system that Linda herself used, as she believed in the value of ancient wisdom).</i>


hmm .. I thought Jyotish uses the Whole sign House system..

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<i>As well as the Jyotish system basically sticks to the Equal House divisional system, which all most all of the Western practioners have abandonned as useless (although, The Equal House system was the divisional system that Linda herself used, as she believed in the value of ancient wisdom).</i>


hmm .. I thought Jyotish uses the Whole sign House system..

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posted March 10, 2006 01:42 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Hello Gert

Don't worry, I felt the same thing when i first began learning Jyotish. It's tricky at first. But then we find out that its actually so much more simpler.

Now when it comes to descriptions, it is best to adhere to the vedic descriptions rather than the western ones when interpreting a vedic horoscope.

Why?

Well, imagine making a pot roast, substituting the meat with sushi?

While Western Astrology assigns pre-eminence to the Sun Sign, Jyotish awards that position to the ascendant, which gives a greater insight into a native's life particulars than does any other factor in the horoscope. Observations of the intrinsic attributes of the various Ascendants (or Lagna's) have aggregated over the centuries into a form of analysis. Vedic Astrologers have extracted from this aggregate a few salient, reliable principles:-

- The symbolism of the constellation and its ruler
- The strength of the planets in the various houses
- The relationship of the Ascendant Lord with owners of various houses
- The house the sun rules in that ascendant chart
- the ownership of other houses in that acendant chart

Let us take your chart's example with the Aries Lagna

The ram, the symbol of Aries, is famous for eagerly running headfirst, into obstacles. This may indicate a person who is prone to head injuries and who attempts to surmount his or her problems by excessive thinking. This emphasis on the head is compounded by Aries being the first house in the natural zodiac, and because Mars is known for its retrogression, which gives these natives a tendency for displaying idiosyncratic behavior. These behaviors may be extroverted, because Mars is extroverted. Mars, which indicates a general predisposition to violence, be it through an accident or an argument, is a natural signifactor of accidents. This tendency for accidents is reinforced by Mar's simultaneous rulership of the eight house, which also rules accidents. This reinforcement is further enhanced if we take the violent, accident-prone Ketu (south node) to be the co-ruler of Aries.

Most of the characteristics of Mars also characterizes Pitta, the impatient dosha which Mars rules and which is therefore often predominant in these natives, particularly because the fiery Sun is exalted in the ascendant of Aries rising. This dedication to intensity is compounded by the fact that the Sun, a friend of the first house lord, is exalted in the first house as lord of the fifth house. This may fuel innate impatience towards those who do not share their rapidity. Unchecked, this impatience may develop into frustration, and then into anger at being held back.

Mars, the ascendant lord, is exalted in Capricorn, which is the 10th house here. The native therefore innately enjoys great motivation and ambition, and tends to pioneer things well. Capricorn's ruler Saturn is debilitated in the first house, and since Mars represents bursts of energy and Saturn represents stamina, the natives often dont strategize well for the longer term. This is why these natives often need to be reminded that they will enjoy mazimum success in life when they slow down and consolidate their gains.

The fact that Mars, the lord of the Ascendant, is debilitated in Cancer, which here is the fourth house of home, militates towards a life lived away from one's home, and a disclination to settle down. Another reason why these natives are said to roam around is that Jupiter is a mutually good friend of Mars, which causes matters of the houses that Jupiter rules (9th and 12th) to tend to vome to the forefront of the natives life.

The inherent 4th house weaknes in this nativity also promotes disagreements with the mother, particularly if the moon, the fourth house lord and signifactor of the mother, is afflicted. The potential for differences with and/or separations from siblings is enhanced because Mercury, the lord of the 3rd and 6th houses, is the enemy of Mars. This blends together in an unattractive way the 6th house indication of suffering and the 3rd house indication of siblings. Since the Sun rules the fifth house of progeny, and is a mutual friend of Mars,the natives maybe very interested in offspring. However, they do not usually produce a large brood, because the Sun doesnt signify children. Also the natural fieryness of the Sun and Mars tends to reduce fertility because Pitta 'burns' the sperm or ovum

If you post your vedic chart, or give me the exact house position and sign degrees i can give a more finite interpretation catered to YOU as per YOUR chart

Lemme know what you think.

Apollo861... thank you for pointing out an ommision on my part. Yes they do use the Whole Sign house system, which happen to be EQUALLY divided.. think about it.

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posted March 10, 2006 02:00 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Moon666child,
Anyway of getting free charts etc. on the internet? I've been interested in Vedic astrology and like to learn more about it.


I am not sure, since I have never tried it online. Anyways, will keep you informed just in case I find something.

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posted March 13, 2006 10:34 AM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
My goodness Divine Goddess you are very knowledgeable about the subject.

Mind you I ma still letting it all sink in and thank you for informing me of what I had no clue about at all.

To be bluntly honest I must admit that even though I am Taurus rising according to western astrology,I've never been able to fully accept it.

I have a huge gash on my head,I walk very fast without even being conscious of it,I lose my temper quite easily,there isn't a week that goes by without me sustaining some kind of injury.I had trouble believing that a clutz like myself would be described as "graceful" as far as my western ascendant is concerned.

Thank you for even considering to look at my chart.If you still interested the details are as follows:

Planet Birth Position Transit Position

Asc 16° AR 18' 19° LE 41'
Sun 05° SA 28' 28° AQ 59'
Mon 25° GE 08' 14° LE 41'
Mer 23° SA 00' 25° AQ 55'
Ven 23° LI 47' 13° CP 04'
Mar 25° VI 20' 18° TA 25'
Jup 29° SC 55' 24° LI 47'
Sat 19° LI 22' 10° CA 54'
Rah 22° TA 0' 10° PI 23'
Ket 22° SC 0' 10° VI 23'

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Divine Goddess
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posted March 16, 2006 06:50 AM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Hey Gert

Sorry for the delay...issues with a cancer ex.

Ok..now in your Vedic Chart, your moon is in the lunar mansion of Punarvasu

This is an auspiscious position. It consists of fice stars, including castor and pollux. This lunar mansion is ruled by jupiter, and the blend of mercury (Gemini) and Jupiter can produce great intellectual and spiritual wisdom.

The ruling deity of this asterism is the mother goddess, Aditi, who tends the ground on which healthy seeds can eventually bear fruit. Her power is the ability to gain wealth or substance. Aditi is the earth goddess who grants all abundance and gives birth to all the gods.

Due to the influence of Jupiter and Mercury, great potential in the communications fields can blossom here. Its primary symbol is a quiver of arrows, which reflects the ability to launch successful projects. It's influence is good for making life changes such as career and residential moves. This lunar mansion allows our creativity and inspiration to be renewed. The animal symbol is a female cat, which reflects its sensitivity and need for independence.

The shadow side of this lunar mansion is a tendency to over-intellectualize life experiences, which can produce a critical nature. Mental vacillation may also be experienced. However, this is considered to be one of the most auspiscious and benefic lunar mansions. It reflects the realization that the exile of the human soul from its celestial abode is due to certain compulsions or sins. It is these compulsions that deprive the soul of its celestial poise. This mansion provides tha impetus for greater action towards the concretization of the will. The spiritual arrow of consciousness is prepared to be launched in this constellation. It is a powerful springboard of self expression, encouraging the development of latent talents. The sky is the limit.

This lunar mansion indicates someone who is happy, friendly, easily contented, good at speech, self-controlled, religiously/spiritually inclined, trouble in marriage, good writing skills, but a fickle nature... (Famous people with this nakshatra/lunar mansion are:- Bob Hope, Paul Simon)

Career wise this supports:- acting, drama, entertainment, Politics, Writers, publishers, Spiritual teachers, mystics

Health Issues that may come up:- sensitive nervous system, pain/swelling in the ears, weak liver, jaundice, lung problem

Let me know what you think.. and please tell me the house positions as well..thank you

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posted March 16, 2006 10:17 AM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
That was trully excellent thank you!I am still reading it again and again so that it can all sink in.

As far as my house positions are concerned:


Asc 16° AR 18' 19° LE 41' IN HOUSE 1
Sun 05° SA 28' 28° AQ 59' IN HOUSE 9
Mon 25° GE 08' 14° LE 41' IN HOUSE 3
Mer 23° SA 00' 25° AQ 55' IN HOUSE 9
Ven 23° LI 47' 13° CP 04' IN HOUSE 7
Mar 25° VI 20' 18° TA 25' IN HOUSE 6
Jup 29° SC 55' 24° LI 47' IN HOUSE 8
Sat 19° LI 22' 10° CA 54' IN HOUSE 7
Rah 22° TA 0' 10° PI 23' IN HOUSE 2
Ket 22° SC 0' 10° VI 23' IN HOUSE 8

It seems clear to me that people should abandon the western point of view and go back to basics.In my experience I've found them confusing and vague to say the least.

Thank you very much again!!!

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Hi Moonchild,
<<Infact, we in India, follow vedic astrology. Much more accurate than the generalized western cousin!>>

It is not as accurate as we think. As per "Jyotish", Linda Goodman is a Pisces!

The chief propogator of Jyotish in modern times, Professor Murli Manohar Joshi, could not even determine his party's nor his own electoral prospects and they lost heavily in the elections.
Bejan Daruwala regularly uses Jyotish to make a fool of himself. He is said to be the best by jyotish fans in India!

Jyotish was used for Indira GAndhi and Rajiv Gandhi's horoscopes and was totally useless in foretelling thier bad times in which they got assasinated.

On the other hand, USA based thier horoscope on the Western Ecliptic method and chose a birth time that has made them World Number 1 for about 200 years! 13 degree Cancer, unmistakable. As per jyotish, they should be a talkative 23 degree Gemini country with moon in Capricorn!

Pls see my Post on Norman Pogson, the 10th post on "Strange Synchronicities".
http://www.linda-goodman.com/ubb/Forum7/HTML/006109.html

The connections clearly validate the Western Ecliptic method.

But Jyotish is extremely valuable and useful in one area. The Myths about planets as living beings. If the invaluable research on characteristics available in Jyotish is used along with the Western Ecliptic method, overall results can be improved.


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I'm glad you liked it Gert.. i'll come to giving you more interpretations... but first let me first share my point of view on Iqhunk's post.

Fistly about Linda being a pisces. Well, if you read my earlier posts, you would understand that Jyotish doesn't consider the Sun Sign as the root of the personality the way the Western/Tropical system does. The Ascendant (Lagna) is given that esteem, why? Because you see, through the ascendant, one can find out which sign the cusp of the other houses fall upon, as well as, which planet is the lord of that house, thereby giving a much detailed description about the person by just knowing the ascendant sign, as i displayed by interpreting gert's Aries vedic rising. So even if Linda is a Pisces by "vedic" sun, i'm sure her rising, as well as her lunar mansion of her moon support strong arien/fiery tendencies. As well as, unlike the tropical system, the Vedic system has 5 types of natal charts that are studied simultaneously. Some research for you to do. Plus, dont you think its very piscean of her to create so many neptune like illusions about her life, forever hiding her birth details, claiming in an interview that she's more than four hundred years old, the flowery yet surprisingly accurate descriptions of all the signs and other esoteric subjects? Think about it.

Now Professor Murli Manohar Joshi is what i would call, the 'Silver Ravenwolf' of Jyotish. Bejan Daruwala is a man who's driven by his ego (as well as plagerizes the works of linda and sydney ommar and making them into vedic contexts).
If you would investigate the works of K.N. Rao, Robert Svoboda, William R Levacy, Shakuntala Devi, even some testiments of Alan Leo and Sepharial, you will see how vedic astrology beautifully brings about many a hidden things the Western system leaves out.

However, Vedic hasnt taken into account of the outer planets (ie. Uranus, Neptune, and Pluto), as well as the numerous and ever growing number of asteroids, so yes some may say that it falls short in certain aspects. Yet, does the western system take into account of Rahu and Ketu? The Kal-sarp-yoga? The fact about planetary "maha-dasha's"? Can it fuse completely with numerology and provide even auspiscious letters for the childs name to begin with? Can it recommend days to observe fasts for bodily as well as spiritual purifications (which by the way have shown many interesting results in researches observed in numerous european and asian countries)?

Every system has its share of pros and cons, but none can say that only one system is the absolute. I myself subscribe to both systems, modernizing the old perspectives with the new, and grounding the base of the new with the old. However, a grandchild can learn allot about life from his grandmothers home remedies. Think about it.

As per the case of the Gandhi siblings. Did you know that their assasination was actually a Vedic Astrologers prophecy which was made circa 500 AD? Do your research.

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Now coming to gert's chart.

I shall for now give a very "to-the-point-description" of what the planets mean in their houses.

SUN IN 9th HOUSE
(Actions for Righteousness)

FAVORABLE:- Interest in higher levels of philosophy, religion and esoteric thoughts, ethical, sense of justice and fair play, legal orientation, consultant, head of an educational or spiritual organization, goes on many long-distance journers, good fortune, benefits through institutions of higher learning, success in publishing, benefits frim gurus, authority figures, leaders, etc.

UNFAVORABLE:- Discord with father, guru, and authority figures (Contradictory perhaps, but remember, the coin always has two sides), changing philosophies, trouble with travels, higher education disturbed, legal entanglements, problems with publishing, feels unfortunate, partners have problems with siblings.


MOON IN 3rd HOUSE
(Feeling of Adventure)

FAVORABLE:- Love of change and new adventure, active imagination, quick mind, doesnt think about defeat, interests in performing arts, artistic in general, aristocratic, good communicator/writer, seeks grand enterprises and noble causes.

UNFAVORABLE:- Unfocused mind, wild immagination, doesnt plan enough, too much moving or travelling, lung and ear complications, swelling in neck, arm, and shoulders, speaks too much or too little for own good, ear and throat infections.


MARS IN 6th HOUSE
(Warrior-like activity)

FAVORABLE:- Strong defensive, service, and protective skills; a builder or dealer in land; military and executive abilities; decides quickly; alert to take advantage; inexhaustable energy-mentally, sexually, and physically; evangelist, propagator, healer, surgeon, warrior, best at short term tasks.

UNFAVORABLE:- Overactive, tendency to drink or take drugs to slow down, extravagant, provokes arguments, deceptive, sexual predator, takes advantage of others, reckless, lacks long-term vision, loses through helpers, surgical operations, blood impurity, rashes, fevers, skin eruptions, heart trouble, broken bones, accidents, trouble with relatives, troubles with pets or small animals.


MERCURY IN 9th HOUSE
(Intellectual Adventurer)

FAVORABLE:- Legal mind, exacting, philosophical, scientific, editing, writing, publishing, judicial, involved in higher education and thinking, long travel for business, diplomat, morally correct, good fortune, innovative thinker, smart father, gets high-minded guru.

UNFAVORABLE:- Immobilized from trying to be too correct or fair, lack of concentration, legal complications through bad contracts, troubles with higher education; misunderstandings with father and authorities; lacks philosophical center; doubtful, conflicted, father needs to take care of health.


JUPITER IN 8th HOUSE
(Expansion Through the Transcedental)

FAVORABLE:- Earns through other people's money or support, good researcher, medical diagnostician, delves deeply into spiritual mysteries, teaches secret knowledge, military or corporate strategist, gets mystical gurus or teachers.

UNFAVORABLE:- Unhappy with partner's approach to money, worried, apprehensive, feels lack of support or recognition, manipulates others for money, lack of self-promotion, low resistance to disease, (in women) husband has sexual/financial problems, troubles with children children, liver ailments, tendency to put on weight.
(In other words, control your diet and maintain a healthy lifestyle)


VENUS IN 7th HOUSE
(Love of Relationships)

FAVORABLE:- Capable of relating to anybody about anything,; likes to have relationships - especially in terms of romance or sexual partners (F*ck buddies) or sexual attention and pleasures; attracts good partners, sucker for a pretty face, persuasive, good business and artistic skills, balanced, gains from marriage and partnerships; sexual prowess.

UNFAVORABLE:- Will say anything to satisfy their desires, quick to get intimate, lack of staying power in love, financial problems, lack of love, reproductive afflictions, kidney weakness.


SATURN IN 7th HOUSE
(Controlled Partnerships)

FAVORABLE:- Steady and practical in business dealings, unemotional interpersonal relationships, detatched decision-making in trade, dutiful in partnerships, focused on getting the results, relationships improve over time, benefits with partnerships with foreigners and foreign connections

UNFAVORABLE:- Obstructions and delays in forming partnerships, restrained emotions, unfeeling, deceptie, understates, hides things, business like response to sex, sometimes sexual dysfuntion, kidney troubles once again (quit the booze), lower back pain.


RAHU IN 2nd HOUSE
(Destiny Towards Finances)

FAVORABLE:- Clever in making money, money accumulated from foreign sources, enjoys exotic dinners, uses unusual ornamentation, benefits from foreign languages, unsual speaking abilities, makes money from other peoples money - especially partners; trader in currencies, gems, metals; good liquid assets.

UNFAVORABLE:- Devious, complains frequently, estranged family, poor study skills, bad eating habits, loses through deception or lack of mindfulness, ailments of nose, throat, thyroid, mouth, lips, gums, and teeth; tendency to overdoo with food, booze and cigs.


KETU IN 8th HOUSE
(Mystical Knowledge Seeker)

FAVORABLE:- Ability to comprehend subtle and esoteric knowledge, likes to uncover hidden things, gets money suddenly through unforeseen sources, benefits from solitude, clever at getting money or support from other people.

UNFAVORABLE:- Depends on others, teated disrespectfully, swings between being docile and agitated, deceived and defrauded, can be both an attacker and a victim

I'll go into other aspects later on.. lemme know what you think so far

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WoW! where did you learn all that?got anymore links,would love to read more....

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Forgive me i made a slight typo on the "Gandhi Sibling" bit..i actually meant to write Gandhi mother-son

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posted March 17, 2006 06:52 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for alanabelle86     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
oooh ive been trying to learn so much about this... but ive never been able to find anything sufficient online or in the bookstore surprisingly..

can you pleeeease just look at mine?

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Hey hot_ice

Well, its actually a strange story about how i learnt it. You see, i was at this gala event, where numerous people who were well versed in numerous esoteric/occult subjects had gathered. Over there i met this woman from india, when we met we instantly began talking, and hit it off really well. She then took my palm and told me the exact house placements of my planets in my natal chart. I was astounded, being a palmist myself i had never imagined that such a thing was possible. When i begged her to let me know more, she arranged to meet with me at the lodge she was staying at. Over there she shared with me her life as a vedic astrologer in India, and how she came from a family of Brahmins who's heritage is that of soothsayers. Her grandfather was sought after by numerous local royals, as well as many a british noblemen and women (India was colonized by England at that time), and how her father was a renouned astrologer who catered to the creme de la creme of the indian society at that time. She and her brother carry on the family tradition. She then showed me numerous ancient scriptures, and even gave me numerous volumes to keep for myself. She's back in india but we keep corresponding. So that was how i learnt all that, along with tonns of self study.

I'm not to sure about vedic links, however the astrologers i've mentioned in previous posts have written numerous books about the subject, you can get their titles. Remember the bookstore Linda mentioned, The Bodhi Tree in Los Angeles? That keeps tonns of ancient as well as modern texts of vedic as well as tropical astrologers.

Hello Annabelle86

I would love to, however, my computer software for making the vedic charts is kinda giving me problems. If you go on the site gert visited, www.astroiq.com , you can make your chart and post the info over here with house positions, i can look into it and tell you about it.

I'm glad you all enjoyed what i had to say. I shall be posting more about the subject, including some myths, although at times i might be slightly delayed..due to a certain cancer ex with whom i'm incredibly fed-up

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Divinegoddess, your experience is a classic case of "Rnanubandhana".

Indian Astrology DID clear their karmic debt of ignoring Pluto and outer planets.
It was Swami Yogananda who taught the importance of Pluto in a dream to
Jeff Green.
http://ericfrancis.com/articles/plutohistory.html


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Yes Iqhunk, Vedic astrology is now taking into account for the use of the outer planets. I myself have read numerous works of vedic astrologers who are working on it. Interestingly though, they consider Pluto to be an offshoot of saturn regarding the planetary functioning.

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Planet Birth Position Transit Position
Asc 01° LI 50' 06° TA 43'
Sun 09° LI 02' 03° PI 52'
Mon 14° CA 45' 13° LI 36'
Mer 02° SC 45' 21° AQ 41'
Ven 24° LI 25' 17° CP 33'
Mar 16° CP 27' 21° TA 06'
Jup 19° AQ 35' 24° LI 37'
Sat 14° SC 04' 10° CA 43'
Rah 27° PI 08' 10° PI 23'
Ket 27° VI 08' 10° VI 23'

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