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WaterNymph
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posted March 24, 2006 07:01 AM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
My mum and sister both have NN conj their Sun. My sister has it within 2 degrees.

I’m SO jealous!!! tho curious, what does it mean if you have this aspect or similar?


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pixelpixie
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posted March 24, 2006 09:03 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for pixelpixie     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
weeeeeeeeeeellllllllll..........

If you take the planetary conjunctions and house positions into consideration, the energy as a whole, and what it represents can be quite enlightening......

For instance.. My N Node is conjunct my Sun by one degree, so you'd think.. okay! She has come here to Really embody the lessons of this sun and house and it will be expressed easily..........
BUT.......
Then consider the set of conjunctions that make up the stellium. Then where it is... In Scorpio, my fourth house. Definate karma..... good and bad, but my focus most def. .....
I also have Mercury in the late degrees of Libra, conjuncting both Sun and Node.. then Uranus conjunct as well. Have you considered the ramifications of haviong the planet of rebellion and insight in my house of 'home' and family and inner/private life? Then consider that Mars highlights there as well.
Are they smooth sailing planets, ready to chanel together and calm my need to express myself at home, for me to be comfortable being fit into the roles I have 'chosen' in this life cycle?
Gah!!! No!!!
It is a struggle for me. But it is my karmic focus, and it does take a lot of my focus.
So don't think it's pretty, just something necessary.

That's my two cents anyway......

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WaterNymph
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posted March 24, 2006 10:24 AM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I guess it’s not so clear cut for them - I am less jealous jk

I had no idea that other planets, in the house occupied by the NN, should be considered
With my mother, her NN is in her fifth house, which also contains her Sun and Mars :/
My sister has it in her fourth, containing her Sun and Mercury *curious*

Thanks pixel

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wilsontc
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posted March 24, 2006 10:28 AM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
nymph,

You said:

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i had no idea that other planets in the house occupied by the NN, should be considered...

In general, the planets with direct influence on the North node will be those planets which CONJUNCT (energy is combiend with) the North node(future goals). In pixel's example, all those planets were conjunct her North node. In your example only the Sun (self-expression) is conjunct the North node. So, for pixel there are MANY energies that combine directly with her future goals, while for your mum and sister, only self-expression (Sun) directly combines with their future goals.

Clarifying,

Tim

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pixelpixie
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posted March 24, 2006 10:31 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for pixelpixie     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
(okay, so now I am jealous of your mom) hahahahahaha

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WaterNymph
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posted March 24, 2006 10:55 AM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Tim my sisters Mercury is not conj her NN or Sun. So thanks for clearing that up

pix after reading zala’s NN in Leo string, I’m the same - they get fun, we get work.

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taurean_scorpion
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posted March 24, 2006 12:27 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
i have

Mercury sextile moon's node
venus square moon's node
pluto trine moon's node...

does anyone know what they mean?

Mercury in taurus in 12th
Venus in gemini in 12th
Pluto in Scorpio in 6th
North Node in pisces in 11th

Taurus Sun/Scorpio Moon/Cancer Asc.

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Touchstone
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posted March 24, 2006 12:56 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
My North Node is in Capricorn in 1st house conjunct my Cappy Ascendant.

I understand this to mean that in this life my destiny is to develop my individuality, become fully independent, acquire some leadership skills , stand on my own two feet, take responsibility for my own life etc etc.

I'm now embarking on this journey quite willingly now I know it's the way to go.

I've always been too concerned with what others will think/feel and have compromised too easily for an easy life (south node 7th house) but I have started honouring my 1st house NN and asserting myself.

For four years, I comfort ate hugely to form a protective barrier against life (south node Cancer perhaps). I used depression as an excuse so people wouldn't expect too much of me. I hid away from the world.

Now, I've put my foot down and decided it's time to set up camp in my north node instead. I've become more assertive at work and with family. I'm learned how to say 'No' to people without feeling too guilty and I've stopped comfort eating full stop. I now eat wholesome, fresh healthy food and I've lost over a stone and feel absolutely fantastic.

This journey feels liberating and I now have the determination to keep on climbing. I know that if I get to the top, there's a big karmic reward waiting for me.

Touch

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wilsontc
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posted March 24, 2006 03:04 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
taurean,

You asked:

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Mercury sextile moon's node
venus square moon's node
pluto trine moon's node...
does anyone know what they mean?...
North Node in pisces in 11th

It means your North node (future goals) has a LOT of support. Since you have Pisces (spirituality) modifying North node (future goals) focused in the 11th house (friends), perhaps you have goals of developing spirtiuality with those around you. So, supporting this goal you have Mercury (thinking/daily work), Pluto (transformation, also power), and Venus (physical, also values/relationships); indicating your daily thinking, power, and realtionships all, in some way, support your friendly spiritual goals.

Goaling,

Tim

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pixelpixie
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posted March 24, 2006 03:30 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for pixelpixie     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Touchstone!
Good on you!

And you know.. anything in Capricorn blossoms later, generally, but sustains it from then on and grows better and better....

I hope I can say the same for my Moon.

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Hexxie
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posted March 24, 2006 03:56 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Hello, Happy Friday all!

I have my N Node (in the 5th house) conjunct my Pars Fortunae, exactly! Not sure what this one means though.

My N Node is also conjunct my Uranus & Venus.

I'm going to try and make an 'astro sentence' for these like Tim teaches (if I can lol).
~I have Scorpio (transformation) modifying N Node (future goals) focused in the 5th house (self-expression). So maybe one of my goals is to transform my self-expression / creativity? Hmmm will have to think about that one.
~Combined with the above energy I have 'transformation' modifying 'friends & relationships', also focused on 'self-expression'. So maybe another goal is to express myself by helping my friends & relationships transform?!

Could you help me simplify that please Tim? I get confused with all the combined energies and how to translate it into a nice sentence

P.S. Do you have any key word for Pars Fortunae??

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CapGirl
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posted March 24, 2006 04:37 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Tim,

I'm new here... Just wanted to ask what about if a guy's venus is conjunct my NN (Pisces), and I know we're bouncing over to synastry here, does the venus factor automatically mean a love relationship, and what are the piscean lessons? Thanks!

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wilsontc
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posted March 24, 2006 04:40 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
hexxie,

You said:

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My N Node is also conjunct my Uranus & Venus.
I'm going to try and make an 'astro sentence' for these like Tim teaches (if I can lol).
~I have Scorpio (transformation) modifying N Node (future goals) focused in the 5th house (self-expression). So maybe one of my goals is to transform my self-expression / creativity? Hmmm will have to think about that one.
~Combined with the above energy I have 'transformation' modifying 'friends & relationships', also focused on 'self-expression'. So maybe another goal is to express myself by helping my friends & relationships transform?!
Could you help me simplify that please Tim?... P.S. Do you have any key word for Pars Fortunae??

Great job! Yes, the "astro-sentence" (Step 5 in the link below) isn't always easy to understand, but it helps you get at the "core" energy of the aspect. The ONLY modification I would make is to put all the conjunction information TOGETHER:
Scorpio modifies Uranus conjunct Venus conjunct North node focused in the 5th house

and now we can use all the great "keywords" (see Step 5) you put in!

Scorpio (transformation) modifies Uranus (friends) conjunct Venus (relationships) conjunct North node (future goals) focused in the 5th house (self-expression)

To make sense of this, I suggest looking at the "big picture":
Uranus, Venus, and North node are ALL focused on self-expression. So self-expression is VERY important to you.

What type of self-expression? Self-expression that involves "friendly relationships" (close but not TOO close). What could these be? Casual dating comes to mind, in which you get a chance to "show yourself" off (self-expression)...while still being able to keep some distance between you and other person (not TOO close).

Now, perhaps as a "future goal" that is not QUITE enough! Then focus on "self-expression" in a DIFFERENT way. Remember that Venus ALSO has to do with the "physical"...the things we VALUE. So maybe you express yourself through your values. And, with Uranus there, maybe these values involve your friends. Since Uranus's friendliness is partly about keeping a sense of "just you" (i.e., not TOO close), perhaps these are more individual values you have. WHATEVER they are, you work at expressing them in some way...perhaps in the arts, or through a hobby, or through drama (all ways to express yourself).

And, always remember that ALL this energy is somehow "transformative"...it somehow transforms you into something more powerful, more "strong". Since Scorpio is also associated with a "death and rebirth" process, this accumulation of power might also be a bit challenging!

I know, I know: "Hey! You didn't "simplify" it, you just made it a LOT more complex!" Sorry about that! That is the way when real life hits astrology, the easy "astro-sentence" gives way to real life issues. I have tried to give you a few ideas about how this MIGHT play out in your life, but only YOU know the answer to what the REAL meaning of this astro-sentence is!

And, to keep my astrological interpretations simple, I don't look at the astrological "parts" at all.

Encouraging self-exploration,

Tim

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wilsontc
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posted March 24, 2006 04:47 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
capgirl,

You asked:

quote:
guy's venus is conjunct my NN (Pisces)

This is

Pisces (spirituality, also confusion) modifying guy's Venus (physical, also values/relationships) conjunct (energy is combined with) your North node (future goals)

Perhaps in some way this guy's values in your relationship (if there is a relationship) help you become aware of and achieve your goals in life (although he could confuse you)?

Guessing,

Tim

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taurean_scorpion
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posted March 24, 2006 06:57 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
wilsontc, Thank you very much!

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nove731
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posted March 24, 2006 09:13 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for nove731     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I have my North Node in Aquarius in the 5th House.

My North Node is very difficult for me to figure out, just because of that. It confuses me. Should I take an Aquarian approach to my future? Or more of a Leonine (Leo rules the fifth house)? I can never figure that out.

As far as aspects go...My North Node, by and large, is unaspected. I have two aspects to it, and neither are all that pleasant. I have squares to Mercury and Pluto.

Mercury is my chart ruler, and that further confuses me. Am I supposed to become a person that is atypical of their Ascendant? Or...? I don't know. I can't as of yet determine Pluto's influence.

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wilsontc
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posted March 25, 2006 01:00 AM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
nove,

You asked:

quote:
I have my North Node in Aquarius in the 5th House.
My North Node is very difficult for me to figure out, just because of that. It confuses me. Should I take an Aquarian approach to my future? Or more of a Leonine (Leo rules the fifth house)? I can never figure that out.

Since the house is where the energy is FOCUSED, perhaps you should simply concentrate on 5th house things. So focusing on your self-expression, hobbies, drama, performing arts, etc. You may find the Aquarian energy (whatever it is! ) kind of "falls into place" once you are focusing on the house your North node is in!

Suggesting,

Tim

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geminstone
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posted March 25, 2006 02:32 AM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Cool string! I know nothing of what my North Node is about... It is positioned in my 12th house at 12Scorpio and, Jupiter sits opposite at 13Taurus. My Asc is 22Scorpio, which is also where my husband's 12th house NN sits. My NN is conjunct our daughter's 12Scorp Moon. The only other natal aspect it appears to make, is a semi-sextile to my 1st house, 12Sag Neptune(Rx) but, I also have Uranus(Rx), at 3Scorp in the 12th... does that orb not qualify for anything?

~ geminstone

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WaterNymph
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posted March 25, 2006 09:15 AM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Tim my apologies, but could you take a quick look at my NN aspects?

North Node is in Cancer 4th house.

Squaring Venus & Mars - 1st
Trining Saturn & Pluto - 8th
Opposing Neptune - 9th

Thank you

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wilsontc
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posted March 25, 2006 11:00 AM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
stone,

You said:

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It is positioned in my 12th house at 12Scorpio and, Jupiter sits opposite at 13Taurus. My Asc is 22Scorpio, which is also where my husband's 12th house NN sits. My NN is conjunct our daughter's 12Scorp Moon. The only other natal aspect it appears to make, is a semi-sextile to my 1st house, 12Sag Neptune(Rx) but, I also have Uranus(Rx), at 3Scorp in the 12th... does that orb not qualify for anything?

There is a LOT of stuff here...but does any of it MEAN anything? In astrology, I find it helps to "sort the wheat from the chaff". The first "wheat" to keep in mind is someone has an EXTREMELY powerful effect on our nodes (future goals) when their planet(s) conjunct (energy is combined with) it.

So where's the node?

12 degrees Scorpio modifies North node focused in 12th house (spirituality)

First possible conjunct aspect?

"Jupiter sits opposite at 13Taurus." Since Jupiter is OPPOSITE the North node, it is CONJUNCT the SOUTH node. The South node is the past, our "easy goals", the place where we want to "sit and rest awhile" in life. With Jupiter (expansion, also wisdom) conjunct South node (the past) focused in the 6th house (daily work, also analysis), you might focus on daily analyzing your understanding...and not work at developing your spiritual faith in things.

Continuing...

"My Asc is 22Scorpio." 22 degrees Scorpio - 12 degrees Scorpio = 10 degree orb of a conjunction (how far a planet is from a conjunction), TOO far, in my opinion to have an effect on you, so we ignore the Ascendant.

"My Asc is 22Scorpio, which is also where my husband's 12th house NN sits" IF your husband's North node (future goals) is conjunct (within 8 degrees) of your Ascendant, then your Ascendant conjuncts his North node. Not an energy connection, but it does indicate when you work on yourelf (Ascendnt), you may also help him work on his goals (conjunction to his North node).

"My NN is conjunct our daughter's 12Scorp Moon." This indicates your daugher's emotions (Moon) help you accomplish your future goals in some way.

"The only other natal aspect it appears to make, is a semi-sextile..."

I don't use semi-sextiles, so I will ignore this.

"I also have Uranus(Rx), at 3Scorp in the 12th" 12 degrees Scorpio - 3 degrees Scorpio = 9 degrees Scorpio, most likely a little too large to be in orb of a conjunction, in my opinion, although, if it is only out of orb by a few minutes, it might have an effect. There is an easy way to test this: If Uranus (friends, also rebellion) conjuncted your North node (future goals), then you might have a goal of "rebelling" in some way. If you don't know...try rebelling and see if it helps you accomplish your spiritual goals!

As you see, these are only guidelines and suggestions. What matters is what YOU find out about YOU: for example, whether you "feel" that too much daily pursuit of wisdom may be holding you back from your spiritual pursuits.

Guessing,

Tim

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nove731
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posted March 25, 2006 11:02 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for nove731     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Haha, wilsontc, that sounds pretty easy, but it's not. Pretty much every interp I've read for Aquarius North Node says to stay away from "performing" or "being in the limelight", and instead of expressing MYself, I should help the group express ITself.

Nevermind the fact I do that anyway. Hah, I'm a teenager. It's probably the only time I have left in life to be selfish.

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wilsontc
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posted March 25, 2006 11:08 AM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
nymph,

You said:

quote:
Tim...could you take a quick look at my NN aspects?
North Node is in Cancer 4th house.
Squaring Venus & Mars - 1st
Trining Saturn & Pluto - 8th
Opposing Neptune - 9th

So you have (using the astro-sentence, Step 5 in link below):
Cancer (home, also emotions) modifying North node (future goals) focused in the 4th house (home, also emotions)...indicating a STRONG connection to your home and emotions

The squares to the North node indicate a T-square focusing on this energy BETWEEN the nodes. So Venus (relationships) and Mars (being, also action) can help you move you from the past (South node) to your future goals. The trines indicate an Easy Opposition also focusing on this energy between the nodes. So Saturn (duty, also structure) and Pluto (transformation, also power) can help you move from the past, to your future goals.

The opposition to the North node indicates a conjunction (energy is combined with) the SOUTH node (the past), so Neptune (spirituality, also confusion) focused in the 10th house (duty, the house opposite the North node) can hold you back in life. Focusing on your "duty confusion" can keep you focused on "duty" and keep you from developing your emotional awareness.

Instead, use active relationships, and structured power to work, develop and grow your emotional connections.

Suggesting,

Tim

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WaterNymph
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posted March 25, 2006 01:46 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Ooooh thank you Tim!!!!

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geminstone
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posted March 25, 2006 02:41 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
WoW!! Thanks, a bunch, Tim I'll have to go through it again, when I have a bit more time but, Thanks so much! I thought I'd heard some rule concerning NN orbs but, because of what I see from astro's chart, was'nt sure.... so, in your guess-ta-mate, you clarified this a bit more for me Much Appreciated!

~ geminstone

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posted March 25, 2006 02:48 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Hey Tim?

I'm wondering what you have noticed about the transiting Nodal opposition cycle. Right now the Transiting Nodes are opposite my natal nodes and my world has turned upside down...it seems. This isnt a bad thing. I read a little bit about this in a book I have called AstroAlchemy by Joan Negus, but I would love to hear *your* thoughts on this life marking transit.

I appreciate any light you may be able to shed.
Thanks.

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