posted April 28, 2006 11:24 PM            

I thought there was a chapter on transiting Neptune in Liz’s Neptune book, but I hunted and couldn’t find it….. so I’ll plunk in another intriguing section from one of her books of collected lectures --

From: “The Outer Planets and Their Cycles – The Astrology of the Collective” by Liz Greene

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Neptune is very different from his heavenly, airy brother Uranus. Neptune is a god of water in myth, and governs the depths of the sea. He rules a realm where everything is ambiguous. Forms blend and dissolve, and colours merge. Water is one of the primary symbols of the world of feeling. It’s also one of the most ancient images for the feminine womb out of which life emerges. The name Mary has its roots in the word mer, which is the sea. This is the sea which is the womb of life. It’s the world of the emotions and the imagination.

When Uranus captures a person, it’s through an idea which takes possession of him. When Neptune captures a person, it’s through the world of dreams and longings and yearnings. Neptune often manifests through what we experience as glamourous or fashionable. The way in which glamour affects us is very different from the impact of an idea or an ideology. Of course they can join together. Socialism can be both a logical ideology and also a glamourous fashion. But the feelings of magic and glamour is a separate thing from the feeling of truth which accompanies a powerful idea. When a style of clothing abruptly becomes fashionable, all of a sudden everyone is wearing it and no one really knows why. The style appears in every shop window and every fashion magazine and even people who like to think of themselves as highly individual turn up in it. Several designers may turn up with the same thing at the same time and they haven’t stolen the design from each other, it’s more that some image or “look” is surfacing and the more intuitive or creative person gives shape to it. Suddenly everyone has long hair, or suddenly skirt lengths go up or down. Suits from the 1940’s become de rigeur. Stiletto heels are back in style. Science fiction films flood the cinema. Punk is the latest craze.

These are Neptunian trends. They creep up on us from a feeling level. They’re not ideologies. They may at first strike you as ridiculous or banal, because they seem to have so little to do with our lonely strivings toward growth and consciousness. But these trends are tremendously powerful. They are responsible for vast sums of money moving back and forth within society, and they touch us on very subtle levels. I think they are more important than they seem, because they reflect yearnings and dreams and longings that are translated into images which the consumer eagerly buys. It’s as if all the deep longings in the collective manifest themselves in this way, whether it’s a religious movement or a fashion trend. This is where we are reaching blindly toward something divine, which embodies itself in the length of a skirt.

I have been very struck by Warren Kenton’s books on the Kaballah, where he connects Neptune with the very top of the Tree of Life. This highest point on the Tree is the ineffable, the glimpse of the divine which is the most human beings can comprehend of the mystery of the godhead. It’s called the Crown, and it’s the place where the sense of lonely separateness is dissolved into an experience of unity and bliss. When we are compelled by fashions, we are experiencing something that surfaces from the deepest yearnings of the heart, and I don’t think that clothing and cosmetics and visions of what is beautiful are any less valid carriers of this than religious symbols. These things emerge from a level that is not concerned with our ethics of right and wrong. They make us feel better, they take us out of ourselves.

Neptune is also connected with the figure of the mermaid or melusine in fairy tales, who beckons the mortal man to submerge himself in the magic depths of the lake or sea. In rites of baptism, these waters cleanse and purify. They can also disintegrate the personality. They are terribly enticing, because you no longer have to strive and struggle and experience separation and conflict and loss. In the depths of the sea you merge with the source. Religion might call that a union with God, while more reductive psychologies might call it a longing to return to the maternal womb.

So the apparently banal trends of fashion tell us a lot about what an entire collective yearns for. These trends are symbols. If you look at what is fashionable in this way, it’s quite fascinating. It’s a pictorial story of what the collective secretly needs and longs for, although these longings could never be translated into worldly terms that made any sense. The god who lives in the depths of the ocean spins out a dream. Neptune passes through a particular sign and suddenly the collective reaches toward that sign and its symbols because that is where the soul beckons. When Neptune moves on into the next sign then the symbols go dry, and what was fashionable for fourteen years now seems ridiculous. So we all rush out and buy the new style.

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Z

posted May 01, 2006 11:24 AM            

I read through this once and that chart is amazing... although, I don't know a lot about tarrot...
I will have to come back....just getting back from a dance competition and now I'm so far behind I think I'm first!!!!

The 10th house...Wow! I'm just starting to realize what a power house this is...

I do hope you are feeling better ?

posted May 01, 2006 11:35 AM              

Tarot + Zodiac Combinations + Kabbalah + DNA Helix + Galactic Structure + Sacred Geometry/Mandalas + Chakras = ?????????

I might need a whole lot of contemplative spiralling here. This is like a 7 dimensional equation. One thing I know for sure. They are all perfectly connected.

posted October 27, 2006 02:09 PM              

.. some neptunian transit txt hanging about my desktop credits to k.f.'zala ..

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Neptune Transits - Bil Tierney
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Neptune transits are very difficult to pinpoint in terms of possible end-results, partially due to the often vague and undefined nature of the planet itself. Neptune has a very gradual, somewhat seductive influence upon the planet or house it is transiting. It slowly dissolves and often erodes structures we have built for ourselves, especially defective ones. If such faulty structures have become too tight, rigid, or suffocating for us on some level, Neptune's power to weaken bonds and allow long standing conditions to "melt" away can prevent us from feeling trapped and imprisoned (at least upon a soul level). Yet life is apt to look very messy during this meltdown phase, since such structural breakdown tends to create temporarily distorted manifestations.

Neptune also encourages an openness to invisible spiritual currents of life. As a result we find ourselves typically surrendering to impulses that help break down our ego defenses and sensitize our awareness of a higher guiding principle. Neptune is our "Let Go and let God?" planet. Due to this planet's weblike influence, we often have a harder time during its major transits feeling separate from relationships and situational conditions around us; on some level, we can merge and become one with them. Yet such existing attachments can be often threatening to our ego's status quo (a Sun/Saturn theme). We may learn the hard way the importance of pulling free from our dependencies rather than be swallowed up. Thus, Neptune may be very active during times of major identity-crises demanding uncompromising self-examination. Soul-searching is a Neptune theme.

A key concept important to undergoing an effective Neptunian transit is discrimination. It's as if we have to consciously draw from the best that the essence of Virgo can offer (not skepticism, but selectivity). We are more sensitized to a wider range of external forces during our major Neptune transits, and will probably we stirred on the heart level. Cool-headed rationality and calm logic can elude us. An emotionality that can either smack of sentimentalism, a strange sense of nostalgia, and even spirit-filled relevation can envelope our consciousness during this transits. Our impressions are vivid and very real to us, and probably because they echo within a deep inner yearning at the depths of our being.

Still, such depth doesn't always accompany clarity and focus. As a result, Neptune energy is not easily directed towards well-defined objectives. But perhaps such goal-orientation is not as important during a major Neptune transit as is the need to dislodge and breakdown all that subjectively dams us up and prevents the fulfillment of future aspirations. Neptune first has to loosen the reigns of our own self-thwarting defenses, liberating our untapped potentials.

Neptune is oriented towards unification and wholeness, whereby units of separate, self-contained energy/consciousness are apt to merge and amalgamate. For example: A drop of rainwater falls into the sea and is lost forever as a distinct drop; and yet the sea would be less than what it is without the addition of that drop. This is the Neptune's fusion principle in action. The individual form or structure becomes subsumed and even rendered invisible as it blends into the totality of the greater. This might be fine for a mere drop of water, but can we always afford our developing egos to undergo such a dissolving process?

Underdeveloped egos (implied by poor Sun/Saturn core integration) are particularly inclined to lose vital parts of their selfhood during difficult Neptune transits (and quite so if there are tensional natal Neptune aspects to begin with). They become empty vessels ripe for the onrush of Neptune energy (which can at times be chaotic in its kaleidoscopic outpouring of images and mood-altering compulsions). We could feel ourselves tranported to an inner ideal world (rich in deep understanding and inspirational vision), or we might feel ourselves losing our grasp on our personal framework of reality altogether.

Although we like to idealize Neptune as rich in expansive agape love and universal compassion, under certain conditions, it can also symbolize deep but turbulent "inner waters" that thrash us about on an angry unconscious sea of emotions (the "Poseidon" side of Neptune). Poseidon was often a stormy, temperamental god (and recent astronomical findings regarding cloud-shrouded planet Neptune have also confirmed a turbulent atmosphere).

So, what are we to constructively do with our Neptune transits? I suggest try to accept that possibility that some parts of our inner nature have become too frail due to unexamined vulnerabilities, and cannot support healthy structures in their current state. Rather than have these parts remain as our perpetual blind-spots, we can now look at and accept the hurt and pain we have accumulated from our past. We can learn to validate the psychological injuries we have long harbored, consciously claim them, and then begin the process of (self)forgiveness and wound-healing. Neptune is associated with miraculous conversions. We can thus undergo a transformative state whereby we can redeem our goodness and recognize our spiritual identity. Amazing grace, indeed!

On a less heavy note, Neptune transits can also put us in touch with the awesome but less obvious wonders of the sensory world. Thru nature or thru the powers of our creative imagination, we can feel inspired to expose our senses to uplifting sights and sounds. Panoramic vistas of unearthly physical beauty are Neptunian. Music that touches the heart and soul of our being is Neptunian. And working with color in general (thru the arts) is Neptunian. In both large and small ways, we can evoke Neptune energy by taking time for the cultivation of the aethestic.

A walk thru a museum can be an excellent short-term way to utilize a Neptune transit, as would devoting ourselves to creating a magical-looking spring/summer rock garden. Neptune wishes us to be involved in activities that enchant and enrapture us in healthy ways. All spiritual rituals that put us in contact with our divine spark are Neptunian. This could be a time to find the quiet place inside that transcends the worldly day-to-day grind of cruder material survival. Do whatever it takes to make you soar with inspiration or feel whole with inner peace and bliss? long as your chosen path is one of soul enhancement and not self-destructive entrapment

One last thought: Neptune transits are not easy to process. And we seldom appreciate the alterations they put us thru until we regain greater objectivity a few years later and look back on matters. But if we "do our Neptune right," we will find we have developed an inner resilience that allows us to quietly go within and self-renew when elements of external living become too fragmented or draining. Our Neptune transits, throughout of life span, attempt to make us emotionally aware that we are spirit first and foremost. And that living on Earth is a temporary but necessary stage of our evolution.. With Neptune, nothing remains static and unalterable, including our greatest fears. And remember, little that happens to us is as 'good" or "bad" as it appears to be!

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above txt by Bil Tierney
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posted October 27, 2006 07:48 PM            

Glad to see you back

Thank you for posting the Neptune transit info.. I am still under the Neptune oppo Jupiter..transit but Neptune has let up on my 10th house... for now that is...
I checked today and Neptune is at 17' Aqua..
What happened? It looks like it will make another pass.. ye gads!
So I will be back to a square on my MC and Mars at 19'and my Natal Neptune at 21'Scorpio....
Back in the fog again.

But at least I had a moment to catch my breath...
as Pluto is squaring my Uranus..
Saturn is conj my Jupiter and squaring Neptune
and Saturn will Conjunct my Stellium in Virgo -Sun, Merc, Venus next year.. in the 7th house...like, February!
Sounds like fun huh?

Earlier this year the Neptune was most heavy!
Your posts and Zala's helped me greatly...
Thanks for thinking of me and for asking...

posted December 21, 2006 05:13 PM              

there's nothing better to me than just simply daydreaming, which i can do anytime.. anywhere. lately i've been trying to control it because it's unrealistic to constantly be in a daze.

after my birthday in march i'm supposed to have a neptune conjunct venus transit that will last around two years. i know that with that there's definitely going to be so much idealism that i'm going to have to learn how to handle it.. along with a feeling of joy and beauty which i feel like i already have. i'm actually excited to experience it..

posted December 21, 2006 08:46 PM              

As someone with a Sun square Neptune aspect in their natal chart; I personally try to remember this...

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'Virgo Ascendant, Libra Moon, Aries Sun'

posted December 26, 2006 03:40 PM              

The saturn in the 7th could mean restrictions with your marriage partner, like you said, but also conflicts with other associates, including the law, possibly. On the flip side of that coin, it could mean more structure will come into the aforementioned areas, although this would take some time and pain. Saturn is like that, you have to resist the urge to fight it, while knowing it will be hard, with the end result being growth and triumph over self-limitations.

Having a tneptune in the 1st, house of self, and a tsaturn in the 7th, house of others, is tough. You have it hard on yourself and hard with others right now, with, it would seem, no good support system...you are forced to go it alone with these transits. And you have to do it right. The worst thing to do would be to try to fight the changes that will occur. And they will occur. You need to roll with the punches, so to speak. Keep your eye on the prize. If you do it right, you will reap many rewards, eventually. If you do it wrong, well, it will just make it a bumpier ride. You can't change the fact that change will occur - resistance will just wear you down - it won't change the end result - becoming more self reliant and more structured, and knowing who you really are, although if you resist, you will learn these answers in a much harsher fashion.

posted December 27, 2006 09:37 PM            

Got some Neptune stuff to share here -- these are Adobe pdf's. If you get the Error 999 message when you click on the links below, just wait awhile then try again – I guess it means my bandwidth has been exceeded…..

From Bil Tierney’s “Alive and Well With Neptune” ~
Contents & Introduction
Setting the Stage – There’s Magic in the Air
Swimming With Neptune
A Neptunian Tour of Our Natal Planets
A Neptunian Tour of Our Natal Houses
Dreams and Visions of Oneness
Neptune Transiting the:
1st House
2nd House
3rd House
4th House
5th House
6th House
7th House
8th House
9th House
10th House
11th House
12th House

posted December 28, 2006 12:06 PM            

Thanks to all that continue to post on this thread.

MUSTANG

Thank you....
You are right trNeptune in the 1st squaring trSaturn in the 7th is tough. Everything seems to be just out of reach for me. I am still under these transits and my Sun,Merc and Venus are in the 12th right now..
I've felt quite deppressed, obsessed, and all that I have repressed for soooo long is coming to the surface. To say that I have been weepy would not begin to describe it.
I feel like I'm swimming around in all my insecurities... sometimes I've got my head just above water and at others, I'm drowned.

Like you said, "You need to roll with the punches, so to speak"
Although I'm still not sure "what" the "prize" is?

Thanks again!

Zala

Thanks for the links ! I will dive right in and be back.
Haven't been able to post much. Out of town. i can't wait to get home!

posted December 28, 2006 12:38 PM            

I just had to come back...

I printed the 1st house stuff... (mine is Capricorn)
It even has Neptune/Mars transits.. Perfect!

I had to laugh at the topic headings for all.. It's almost like I don't need to read the text (although I will).... This all sums it up nicely LOL!!!!

PARTLY CLOUDY
A HEALING VISION
BAD KARMA?
SATURATION POINT
THAT LIGHT WITHIN
CLOSET CLEANING
SOULSCAPE
KALEIDOSCOPE EYES
NOT SO PUSHY
FOGGY ROAD AHEAD?
BRAKE FAILURE
DISAPPEARING ACT
EASY DOES IT
EROTIC SPELL
FLIPPING OUT

He even quotes some Lizzie!!

Thanks agian... 1st laugh in a while!

posted December 28, 2006 02:19 PM              

The end result is, or may be: becoming more self reliant and more structured, and knowing who you really are. Overcoming and triumphing trials, the biggest of which is yourself and outdated, stagnant patterns and thoughts. Basically, you should end up with your priorities in order, a better sense of self, more self disipline, and more strength and wisdom, especially regarding yourself and other people in your life.

posted August 19, 2008 03:42 PM            

Then I recalled an event that shook the world, literally, and it seemed to be relevant as an image.

posted August 19, 2008 05:14 PM            

anyway, i really admire your indepth insights. your mind is really open!!!!!

Oh my cotton socks!!!! Mercury must be retrograd over my brain at the moment - iqhunk commented years ago!!! Just noticed!!!

where is he/she anyway, these days?